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  • in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #273399
    Lily
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    Dear anita,

    hm, I don’t think that this is what happened here. I mean it wasn’t necessary for him to tell me that he wasn’t feeling good. I don’t think he did this. The feeling I have was that at first, he was interested in  me. Maybe just for sex, I don’t know. He was really busy. I also didn’t ask for anything. At that point I thought that I will become more of a part of his life, once we get to know each other better.

    After he moved away, the two times he wanted to visit me failed. Once, he informed me the same day he wanted to visit me, but I had other plans. Then I tried to please everyone and suggested that we could still see each other after I was back and that he could spend the night. That must have seemed very strange. He declined that offer. But if all he would have wanted was sex, it would have been easy to say yes to this. So this was decent of him. O.K.: this actually could confirm your theory: the next day he told me he was losing, faith, which had me worried. So I asked him if I can do anything for him, if I should come to visit him. But he declined.

    The second time he wanted to visit me, he also only told me one or two days before. But I was sick and got worried of infecting him, which is why I informed him of my illness. Then he didn’t respond, only a few hours before we were supposed to meet. And he didn’t express clearly if he wanted to meet me or not, only said that he was “on his way”. But after he hadn’t answered me, I assumed that he didn’t want to meet me. Also him not answering me had made me feel stressed and crazy and I was in a bad mood. So in my reply to him I also didn’t ask specifically if he still wanted to see me and didn’t say what I want. Later I asked him if he wanted to talk more about what happened, but he ignored this question.

    So then he often only wrote to me saying “how are you”, answering me, but not really answering me. Not telling me anything about his life. Sometimes he seemed more interested again and we had a phone call (by the way, I had to call him most of the time, because he didn’t have the money he said…). On the phone, he asked when I will come to visit him, but we said we would plan this out later. When I later inquired when I should come for a visit, he ignored it. I later asked again (which I regret now, I feel like I pushed myself onto him), so we found a date for our meeting. It didn’t go so well, I was very uncomfortable.

    After the visit he went back to giving me his non-answers. I guess I should have gotten the hint. But once I also asked him directly if he was still interested and he said he had just been sick. Then I saw that he was “single” on facebook, which led to the phone call which ended it.

    My impression: he wanted to end it sooner, but didn’t have the guts to tell me. He said some times to me, that he wants no problems. Also said “life is easy”. My interactions with him were stressful and not easy, so he wanted out of it. That is also what he said on the phone: “A relationship should be nice, not always stressful.”

    He seems like a person, who wants to appear good. He seems to avoid to talk about problems. On the phone it seemed like he didn’t tell the whole truth. He acted like I was asking for too much of his time, which doesn’t make sense. He had time to talk to others, when I was with him…

    I feel guilty for pushing myself onto him too much, but on the other hand, he still kept replying, he could have said “stop” too. Instead he left hints, also said that he was just too busy and that everyone was angry at him for not replying back.

    I also feel guilty for dating, when having my own psychological problems to resolve. It was irresponsible of me, but I thought that a relationship (yes, I know this was none) could be possible for me. I feel sorry for stressing him. At least I have learned my lesson.

    So this is what I think happened. does it make sense? I still feel confused.

    At least I don’t think I am not the only person who did wrong. I still have feelings of guilt.

    I am sorry for still writing so much about this. Hopefully I can move on soon, focus what is really important for my life.

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #273377
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I do not respond anymore… I don’t even understand why he would tell me that he is not feeling good. To look better? He didn’t even ask how I was at first (he did later).

     

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #273137
    Lily
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    Dear anita,

    I don’t want to go back. It got me stressed that he wrote to me. I couldn’t sleep and my heart is still racing.

    But I offered him to talk about everything, if he wants to, because I got worried that he wasn’t doing well. He wrote we can talk tomorrow. I answered we can talk, he can let me know when he has time. He only responded “I will let you know.” and I don’t intend on answering this anymore, only if he really wants to talk. Because in the case that he wasn’t a bad person, I would like to give him the opportunity to talk about everything. It might have been wrong. But I definitely don’t want to start any thing more than a final phone call with him again…

    Regarding my father and grandmother: I don’t spend so much time with them any more. I seldomly see my grandmother. But I talk to my father once a week. This Christmas I visited them for a week. I got the feeling that they thought it wasn’t enough time and that they were disappointed. My mother asked me when I will come to visit them once the semester is over and to celebrate my birthday. I feel pressured…

    I’m glad your leg it getting better. It must be hard to be taken out of your routine! Hopefully you can still find some other things to do that make you feel well!

    Now I will go and meet a friend. See you later or on another day!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272893
    Lily
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    O.K. K. just wrote me, saying that he is not feeling good, but that he will be o.K. Maybe he was really just busy.

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272881
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I hope it was o.K. to ask about not writing in third person. Like I said, I want to try to assert myself more, speak up more. So this was a little experiment. Because I learned that people will only respect you more, when you speak up for yourself. I want to do more of this in my life, so I wanted to start here.

    Maybe stumbling in the dark and feeling crazy is what I feel, when I try to find out what others want. Then I try to act in the way it is expected, but it leads to bad decisions. So from know on, I have the intention of listening more to myself.

    Yesterday I was watching a Youtube video criticizing the Youtuber “hidinginmyroom”, who talks a lot about his personal life, very bluntly, sharing very personal details about his life. So I guess I was looking at the criticism and applying it to myself (I often do this – take criticism for others and ask myself if I’m also guilty of it). Even before watching this, I had worried a little about it. Sometimes I get paranoid. I’m not completely decided if I want to delete this or not. The conversation with you has helped me a lot to see things clearer. It also helped me in my times of distress. Just sometimes I think: whoever reads this will think that I am crazy.

    Today I also chatted with my sister. She is now away at a seminar for her job. My father apparently immediately worried that this company is not serious. So I joked to my sister: “Have you been brainwashed and joined a cult yet?” and after she showed me some pictures of her room I said “I see you haven’t been kidnapped yet”. So we talked a little bit about my father. He is worrying all the time and he can drive you really crazy. He is the kind of person that would tell you everything that can go wrong, one day before you have a surgery. I recently noticed that my grandmother is similar. We are not very close, but whenever we talk on the phone, she tells me about all the murders that recently happened in my city…

    Anyways, I guess this could be the source of my irrational, fear-based thinking. My sister also told me that she feels often guilty and has a hard time saying no. She also feels guilty, when she is not listening to my father enough. Conversations with him are more like a speech, where he doesn’t react so much to what the other person has to say. He has no friends… I feel kind of sorry for him.

    Unlike me, my sister liked my father as a child until puberty. She also didn’t feel hated by him and he didn’t say such things to her like he did to me. But she was also his favourite. He was always on her side and even read books to her. My mother once said something like, that he was somewhat jealous of me when I was first born, because I got so much attention?

    Sorry, I just wanted to respond quickly, but it got very long again.

    How are you doing today? Is your leg better? Have a good day away from the computer!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272853
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    today I’m feeling so-so…. A little bit worse. I can feel a lot of anxiety and stress in my body, as I often did after my interactions with K. didn’t go right. I wish I would have paid more attention to these feelings and asked myself why I am feeling this way. It shouldn’t be like that in a good relationship or friendship. This is what my therapist meant, I think,  when she said that I don’t describe my feelings, but only situations and should pay more attention to my feelings. It is a little sign of progress that I am noticing this more now, I hope. I really really hope it is, as I am feeling so crazy.

    Sadly, I still worry a lot about what K. thinks of me now. Probably that I am crazy. But it shouldn’t be my concern and doesn’t matter for my life.

    Yesterday I also worried about all the personal things I wrote in this thread. It is maybe not normal to share such personal things online. What if someone finds out? I’m sometimes wondering, if it is possible to delete all my threads? But they also helped me, you helped me. And I couldn’t talk so openly with people in my everyday life so often. Sometimes I tell my best friend about my struggles and she is really supportive, but I don’t want to talk too much about it.

    Regarding your post: I want to stick to my resolutions, as I really want to get better! Also questioning my thoughts like you suggested to me many times before, will be helpful to me.

    Can I ask you something, though? Please don’t be offended, but could you please not write to me in third person like you did here: “what Lily  wants”. I know you probably didn’t mean it to be patronizing, but it makes me feel like a child and uncomfortable. I know that you said that I am like a child. I realize that I have a lot of work and growing up to do. You can also tell me, if you feel that I am like a child or anything else that you want to tell me. I prefer that you are honest and don’t sugarcoat things for me. Actually, I appreciate your honesty. I think that I need to hear these things and I am open for criticism. I think I am just trying to assert myself more here, that is all. Please don’t take it personally.

    When it comes to my perfectionism, it is mostly related to my art or career. But also, if I go on a hike with my brother, I would probably prepare some time consuming food (but I don’t know if that is a problem in this case, maybe I just like to cook some good food…).

    But when it comes to my art, it can be a problem, because it keeps me from finishing projects. I am seldomly satisfied, I take too much time or don’t even get started. When I see the works of others, I sometimes get discouraged, especially if they are in the same class as me. If I am seeing art in a museum or read a good graphic novel, I can appreciate the artwork more and get inspired. The people at my art school are so good! And I have a different style than most. Art is actually the one area, where I am more confident. I know that I have some talent, even my professors like it, I mean I can feel they truly like it, when I get something done. When just focusing on my own projects, sometimes I feel happy and confident. But then I look at others and get insecure and get nothing done. In the last months though, I felt like I improved a little bit in this area. My recent drawings felt more like they were truly me.

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272607
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    yes I am feeling much better today. Now after the sports class with my friend I feel quite happy and satisfied. To be honest, I am relieved that this thing with K. is over. It caused me lots of stress and anxiety and I was overwhelmed.

    I think I’m not too irrational much of the time. Mainly when stressed and I try to please people too much, that’s when problems start. With people I’m more comfortable with, it’s easier for me to say no and tell my true opinion. Your advice to make decisions when calmer is valid. I want to try to take a moment to think before saying yes from now on. And also think more about what I want.

    So far I didn’t think I hurt my therapist. But I have to admit that I worried that I am a too complicated patient. In the last sessions it was a little tense. Because the same thing as always happened, I didn’t trust myself and let her dominate the session. And she didn’t feel that I was feeling uncomfortable, so she got worried. I will see how it goes on Friday.

    Good to hear that your leg is doing better. It is not easy to overcome that inner critic, so be kind to yourself. Maybe at first you partly thought you were guilty, but then you realized that it isn’t true. That is the most important thing. And the pain must have been intense. I always get angry, when feeling pain. It is o.K. to not always think or act perfectly, don’t you think? But it’s easy to say! I often get so afraid of making mistakes and get too perfectionist. But that is something I want to let go of, hopefully, at some point.

    Please continue to get better. And thank you. It helped me talking to you yesterday when I was feeling so distressed!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272551
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    after thinking more about my interactions with him, it seems more clear that he wasn’t interested in anything serious. I already sensed the signs before, but somehow thought my instincts were wrong, when he said that he had been sick or busy and didn’t call me for those reasons. Maybe it is what I wanted to believe. But now I think that he wanted casual sex, but he also wanted to appear like a good person. During that phone call he acted like I was unreasonable for asking more of his time. He acted like he was too busy and because I don’t have a smartphone it is basically impossible for us to communicate more (it’s not such a big problem for my other friends to stay in contact with me!). It just sounds like excuses to save face to me… Maybe he doesn’t even want to admit it to himself…

    You are right, I need to change my ways of thinking. At least I can see a little bit clearer what my problems are now, clearer than some months ago. To realize, that my problems are so big is not easy to face. I know there is a lot of work to do and that it will take a long time to heal.

    Next Friday is my next appointment with my therapist. I think I will ask her about Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, but she is specialized in Depth Psychotherapy (I’m not sure if this is the right translation into English). She also said she wants to use techniques of Behavioral Therapy.

    After our last session, I’m kind of nervous about the next one. She only made one new appointment for a new session and said that she “can’t feel me”. She also asked me how therapy made me feel and such things. I’m wondering if she is worried about not being able to help me. If she wants to end therapy? If she really feels incapable of helping, of course it would be better to end it. But I don’t think my insurance would pay for another therapy then. Maybe I’m reading too much into this again? Well, I will see on Friday.

    Today I was feeling a little bit better than the two days before. At least I cleaned up a little bit and later I will meet my friend to exercise together.

    How is your leg doing? Is it better than yesterday?

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272459
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    thank you for your help! I wish you a good day, please be good to yourself as well today and take some time to rest!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272449
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    thank you, I do feel a little bit better now, after thinking more about what our interactions were like. There is still some doubt though. But it’s better. Most likely, in a few days I will calm down more. Maybe after some time I can see things clearer.

    I’m sorry to hear that you got injured. Please get well and rest for a while! Take good care of yourself!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272447
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    but what if he is feeling so bad that he can’t call? I’m so scared. If I only disrespected myself, I can live with it and forgive myself at some point. But if I damaged him, even though I never wanted it, I could never forgive myself. Today I even went kind of dizzy when I was walking outside – that never happens to me.

    He seemed like a good person, I know you don’t think so. Of course, I didn’t know him well.

    The way he treated me, of course, was showing disinterest. He didn’t respond to me often and never let me be part of his life. But maybe he was really busy? My friend said, that it doesn’t make sense that he really doesn’t have time to call or text me. Because when he was with me, he was always on the phone, talking to someone else. One time, he even called someone, after texting with them on his smartphone while we were eating out. He didn’t ask me a lot of questions, didn’t seem to want to know more about my life. He never had much time for me. His work, studies and family were always more important to him. Once he wanted to come over to my place to spend the night, after he returned from a night out with his friends. He said he would return at about 2 am, so I declined. In the beginning he gave me a lot of compliments, but most were about my looks. Only once he said that he liked about me that I was so nice and that I liked people. He also said “I love you” very quickly and wanted to have unprotected sex. And he said he wanted to have a baby with me, which I found strange and thoughtless.

    Those are things that I find disrespectful and show that he was not interested. But on the other hand, he told me about his work and his family. He seemed so kind and friendly. He told me I was a good person. He always asked if I was o.K. and said he could wait when it comes to sex.

    While typing this, I’m realizing I can’t come up with a lot of reasons why I think he is a good person… It was more of a vibe that he gave to me, when we were together. His actions told me otherwise.

     

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272433
    Lily
    Participant

    What I wrote above is the reason I fear that I might have abused or severely damaged him.

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272429
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    thank you!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272421
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    to say yes to sex when it wasn’t love. Or I don’t know. I don’t judge others when they have casual sex. But that is not what I want for myself.

    He said on the phone “but I always asked if you’re o.K.”. And he said: “The last thing I wanted was to hurt you”. Now he is hurt because he has hurt me. Now he has to live with this experience. I should have said no, when I wasn’t comfortable with this. But somehow I really couldn’t!

    in reply to: What if you are the toxic person? #272415
    Lily
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I don’t want to date any men, I already said it. And usually I don’t meet men. That I met K. was just by accident, you don’t have to worry. Usually I don’t start a conversation with men. When men approach me on the street, I usually ignore them or don’t talk to them.

    Only because I met him at home and I knew his sister, I thought that everything was going to be o.K. I didn’t realize, that I am not ready for a relationship, but now I do. I don’t want to hurt anyone or drag a man into my problems. Those are strong reasons for me to really not date anyone.

    Right now I can only feel that that this inner critic is right. Maybe when I was an innocent child it wasn’t right, but now it is. A person that is not disgusting wouldn’t do such a thing. It would be the best, if I just didn’t exist!

     

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