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JohnParticipant
Hi Avid,
I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through so much pain and suffering.
A few things jumped out at me from your post:
“I continued to do everything he asked..”
“I ended up dropping my classes..”
“I just sit there and take it …”
“I love him to death …”If you were to paint a healthy relationship, what would it look like? Would it be a relationship where one person did everything someone else asked? Would it be a relationship where you’re making huge self-sacrifices for the benefit of another? Would it mean being a punching bag for someone else’s frustrations and mental health issues? Would it mean willing to die for someone else?
I would suggest looking into resources on co-dependency. I think it will prove to be a huge eye opener for you.
Believe me, there are better ways to live and love in this world.
September 16, 2013 at 9:38 am in reply to: Can't accept that luck/fate can be more important than talent/hard work #42308JohnParticipantI think attitude can play a huge role in job and office dynamics. As a manager, I will hire / promote someone with a more positive,energy, upbeat, outgoing attitude over someone who is purely competent or skilled in what they do.
Why? The more positive a person is the more pleasant they are to be around. I want people on my team who not only contribute to the day to day operations of my workplace, but also make it a fun place to be. I’m not saying that skills, hard work, and experience don’t play into a factor, but I’ll be honest and transparent by saying that I rank soft / people skills and attitude equally or sometimes higher than skills and experience. I can teach people what to do, but if how and why they do the job is to have a positive impact on something greater than themselves, that I cannot teach and has to come from within.
Sure a hard worker and skilled person will get the job done, but their cynicism, dissatisfaction, jealousy, judgement, and comparison is not the kind of work environment I want to foster. There are more important things in life than what we do such as how and why we do them.
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JohnParticipantYou don’t need people in your life. With the proper training and discipline, you could become as ascetic and cut yourself off from the world completely to live in a cave for the rest of your life. Itβs completely do-able. Lonely, boring, painful, stagnant, and does nothing to contribute to your own well-being or the well-being of others, but itβs do-able.
Although you donβt need people, you could consider wanting to having people in your life.
Having people in your life adds variety and spice. It makes life more interesting. People are fun! People can be the recipients of the love that you can give and in turn be sources of love. People help us learn and grow and we can help others learn and grow. Open hearted and open minded people can be there when we need to talk things out, bounce around ideas, solve problems, make a tough decision, and help us overcome challenges. Working together with others, we can be creative and create beautiful things β a family, a group of friends, a community, and a society.
You could cut yourself off completely from others, avoid any pain and suffering that they may inflict, but that comes with very high personal cost, a lot of self-sacrifice, and it denies the world all the wonder, joy, and beauty that you can potentially bring to others.
In short, people can be there to respond to you when you ask, “Why do you need people in your life?” π
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JohnParticipantThanks Matt.
I’ve noticed you recommending metta meditation to many people on this forum and it has peaked my interest. I’m looking forward to trying it.
JohnParticipantThanks Matt. I’ll take your words to heart and not react to my thoughts, but simply give them space to diffuse.
Cultivating patience with ones practice is difficult and I look forward to the day when I’m free of these gremlins that prevent me from living life to it’s fullest potential. I can almost taste it; no doubt, no confusion, no uncertainty, no second guessing, no self-criticism, no rehashing, no replaying of the days events, what was said, what was not said, what was done, what was not done…that would be freedom! π
JohnParticipantThanks Matt.
The following paragraph jumped out at me as the indicator that an unruly mind does not simply require a passive observer, but rather a skillful gatekeeper and some instruction should be given.
“A wise gatekeeper knows that mindfulness is more than bare attention. A wise gatekeeper has to remember the instructions and perform them with diligence. If he sees a thief trying to break in then he must stop the burglar, or else call in the police. In the same way, a wise meditator must do more than just give bare attention to whatever comes in and goes out of the mind. The wise meditator must remember the instructions and act on them with diligence.”
This also reminded my Sakyong Mipham’s metaphor of the mind as a horse and meditation as a practice that helps you tame the horse and keep it on a straight path.
But I can see what you’re saying about not chastising the animal and blaming it for it’s innate reactions, but to meet it with compassion and love.
So often throughout my day I see thoughts arising of greed, anger, jealousy, guilt, judgement, and criticism sometimes directed at others, but mostly at myself. It’s getting a bit annoying.
I want to remain open, calm, peaceful, compassionate, to give love freely, fully, and openly to world, and to receive love freely, fully, and open from the world, but my mind is constantly putting up barriers and trying to undermine my confidence, “What if….ummm…but…..however…….what about…..but when…….”
While removing the barn is one approach and letting the mind run wild, I’m wondering if my mind could benefit from some direct talking to. If I were to meet a mare bucking in a barn hurting itself, I wouldn’t remove the barn, I would instead try to calm the mare and let it feel safe and secure.
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JohnParticipantI agree about the not spanking or being too harsh, but at the same time, some of the Buddhist literature I read talks about educating your childish mind, setting clear boundaries, giving it instructions, and not just letting it run wild.
I personally find it it helps to try to set it straight when it tries to play it’s old tricks and brings about doubt, neurosis start to arise, or cocky ego kicks in by calling it out as unproductive, harmful, unloving, or mean.
Here’s an article that describes the teaching that I’m trying to take to heart:
http://www.budsas.org/ebud/ebmed070.htm
Is it better to be a passive observant of the mind’s chatter or trying to actively try to point out how silly of a monkey it’s trying to be? I would think as a child or wild animal, it needs some gentle instruction and to be tamed.
Your thoughts?
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JohnParticipantHere’s how I differentiate between the following:
– Learning = False vs. True
– Judgement = Bad vs. GoodWhile there are objective and scientific proven truths, when it comes to judgement, Shakespeare said it best,
“There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.”
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JohnParticipantHere’s something that might get you on the right path:
I like the book because it all starts with meditation and becoming familiar with the tricks that your mind plays on you and how the reptilian part of your brain thwarts you from achieving your higher functioning neo-cortex identified goals.
Enjoy! π
JohnParticipant“less than” and “more than” are by-products of our society obsessed with self-esteem and self-worth derived from external sources and comparisons.
The remedy? I would say being open to even more rejection and disassociating yourself from it. Easier said than done I know, but imagine a life where your day to day peace of mind was not dependent on how others accepted or rejected you. It’s not pleasant being rejected, but it doesn’t have to spiral you into depression, self-judgement, self-criticism, or despair. It happens, you feel it, and you move on always knowing that that deep down inside you are a good person and deserving of love and affection.
My favorite scene from my favorite movie that encapsulates Buddhist wisdom in a nutshell: http://youtu.be/BYNElueJj_w?t=21s
“The trick is not minding that it hurts” π
Also try this: http://youtu.be/IvtZBUSplr4
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September 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm in reply to: Second guessing my engagement ring. Always second guessing myself… #42021JohnParticipantI hear where you’re coming from – buyer’s remorse. I went through of it myself recently and it’s amazing how, once it’s gets your claws into you, how difficult it is to let it go.
You tell yourself, “It means nothing in the long term…How significant is it in the grander scheme of things?…Just accept what is, what you have, look beyond the object and the meaning behind the object…”
Oh, but the mind is a nasty little gremlin that way. It trips you up with superficial questions, “Really, are you happy with your purchase? Didn’t you really want the other one? Wouldn’t the other one make you much happier?”
Don’t listen to that voice. It lies to you. It undermines you. It focuses you away from what’s important. Rise above the knee-jerk voice in your head and consciously say, “No, I will not be pulled down into the muck and mire of comparison, evaluation, and judgement. I don’t ‘need’ anything to be happy and am happy with nothing. Whatever comes and I receive as a gift, I will accept graciously and with an open heart.”
Use that are your starting point and don’t get pulled into suffering and anxiety by being driven by your superficial desires. You’re a much better person than that and I think by expressing how anxious and stressed you are by your own reaction, you recognize your potential to rise above this materialism that you’re experiencing.
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JohnParticipantThis post got me thinking; why is that in the majority of posts about break-up we exalt the person who left us or who we left as being “the best,” “amazing”, “so awesome”, “so good”, “a god”, “a goddess”?
In reality, in the grander scheme of things, we’re all average. Over their course of their entire lives, I doubt it that anyone ever deviates too far from the median for too long on any measure we use to evaluate an individual. Therefore, objectively speaking, how can anyone be better than anyone else?
The person we’re with is usually “perfect”, but then you think to yourself, “Wait, a second, the person I was with last was also perfect at the time, is this person better than that person? Is the next person going to be better?” There’s even a social convention and pressure to speak highly of your current partner and talk about how better then were then your previous relationships. “Oh, she / he is so much better than the last person I dated. I don’t know what I was thinking with that one. I’ve got it all figured out now. This one is perfect.”
Look back at your relationships. Look all the way back to your adolescence and remember how many people you considered to be ‘perfect’, ‘awesome’. The truth is, none of them were. It was simply your mind playing tricks on you. Emotion guiding reason and the following story starts playing in your head, “If I feel so strongly about this person, then they must have been special. They must have been better the person before and there’s no certainty that I’ll meet anyone as good as them”
I’m beginning to appreciate how the mind begins to create what seem like “rational” stories in order to justify the feelings that we experience. It’s your mind justifying / rationalizing it’s actions and feelings. In short, it’s your ego being fed. Because, if you truly realized that the person was just like any other, objectively no better and no worse, your ego would crumble and rebel
“What do you mean I invested so much time and effort and emotion into something who was just average?”
That kind of thinking is unacceptable to the ego, so it exalts the other. It puts them on a pedestal in order to satisfy and secure it’s position and it’s own importance.
I think we simply meet people at different stages of our lives and depending on a given variables (interests, values, mental stability, willingness, physical attraction, etc) we’ll either connect with another person or we won’t. It has really nothing to do whether or not they’re better or worse than someone else because objectively speaking, they’re just average sacks of bone, liquid, and flesh just like anyone else. To think of them as better or worse than yourself or anyone else is a ranking game that we play to secure our ego’s position in a false and impermanent hierarchy.
JohnParticipantIt’s funny that this thread got revived with a reply because it actually came to mind recently.
As I continue my practice, I’m learning to discern the difference between requiring, wanting, and needing.
We require air, food, water, and safety to survive.
We can want money, sex, success, and happiness.
But in reality, there’s nothing that we need.
Our basic requirements allow us to function. Our wants add variety and spice to life. But the moment those wants become ‘needs’ or make us ‘needy’, we lose our footing and grasp on reality and spiral into stress, anxiety, suffering, and pain.
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