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PeterParticipant
Losing hope is not always ‘bad’. Hope is a skill that many people practice badly. Losing hope is often a step needed in order to ‘let go’ and enter into the flow of Life, opening the doors to the very things we didn’t know we were hoping for.
I always thought that the rule was be kind and you will receive the same in return in some form
The golden rule – do not do unto others as you would not have then do unto you. The Law of Karma (Action – Cause and Effect) or actions are influenced by causes and at the same time create effects which create causes….. The law of forgiveness: Forgive us our failures as we forgive those that fail us – as we judge we are judged – by our own hearts – we see in others what is also within us, a shadow we do not always recognize. The Law of Love: Love your neighbor as your self – not so much a law as a reality that our ability to love others is very much connected to how we love ourselves. The law of attraction – like attracts like.
So confusing, no wonder relationships can be so difficult . The key to all the above requires that one must know them selves. The challenge is that we are not always fully awake to our ‘real’ intentions and Life/Love demands growth.
Why do you fall into the caretaker role? What are the payoffs for you? What could taking on a caretaker role attract? What does being a caretaker say about how you Love yourself and desire to be Loved?
Being a caretaker can be a wonderful path to follow when we also have strong and loving boundaries. Our greatest gifts and strengths can also be our greatest weakness. Taking time to create space to know yourself could be the first step on the path in attracting the Love that you really hope for.
“We must be willing to let go of the life we planned so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”
“If you do follow your bliss you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living. Follow your bliss and don’t be afraid, and doors will open where you didn’t know they were going to be.” ― Joseph Campbell
March 24, 2018 at 9:12 am in reply to: I know I have to let go, but I struggling with it, it is out of anger #199229PeterParticipantWhy cant i let go, why cant i forget, why cant i forgive?
We can’t let go when we attach our sense of self with our memories and emotions. Instead of feeling our emotions we become our emotions. To let go would then be letting go of our sense of self which feels like dying and so we grasp and cling and hold onto our pain. We also hold onto our pain because a subconscious part of ourselves hopes that as long as we hurt we are hurting the one that hurt us. We do not forgive because we do not understand forgiveness.
We suffer because a part of us wants to suffer.
PeterParticipantHi Rainbow
From the beginning of recorded history ‘man’ has wondered about the cycle of life. Cycle of the moon was seen as representing the cycle of life, death, rebirth…. As was the rising and setting of the sun. And then of course the change of seasons…
There is a time for everything…. So yes, life is a cycle of ‘life, death, life…’ on every level.
In Christianity Christ dies on the cross to be reborn. If you follow Christ you follow him in this cycle, every moment a birth, betrayal, death, and resurrection. In Buddhism each breath is a cycle – inhale we are reborn, exhale we ‘die’ One might argue that each breath represents the opportunity of reincarnation. That is of course viewing ‘death’ symbolically, usually evolving a ego “dying”
Light and dark exist in each other they cannot exist without the other. If we did not know darkness we could not know light. Light points to the darkness and darkness points to the light.
It is in time of darkness, if you establish perspective, that you realize want you want and identified the opportunity to walk towards it… if one is courageous and does not fear all ‘dying’ it might take to get their..
PeterParticipantJenn
Reading your post it sounds like your no longer in denial and as they say that is the first step. There are allot of resources that you could check out that will help you deal with your finances. That there are so many resources out their suggests your not alone, definitely not alone.
You have demonstrated the ability to work hard, get a degree, and then change direction to find a career your passionate about. Few people are that brave. Getting a handle of your finances is anther challenge that once you face it you will be successful.
I wonder what the future might hold for you. I believe everything we learn comes together eventually. Life lessons, Sociology degree, cosmetology, well spoken, and once you learn how to better manage your finances …
“The only way that we can live, is if we grow. The only way that we can grow is if we change. The only way that we can change is if we learn. The only way we can learn is if we are exposed. And the only way that we can become exposed is if we throw ourselves out into the open. Do it. Throw yourself.” ― C. JoyBell C.
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PeterParticipantHi Rick
My feelings on such matters is that after such a breakup a clean break is the best for everyone involved.
If she has asked you to stop contacting her you need to respect that. Her response to the birthday contact didn’t invite any further contact so its pretty clear.Sometimes Love requires that a relationship ends. I’ve been there and I know it hurts. Sorry
PeterParticipantI prefer the “as below so above” approach as well – with that in mind and seeing that its spring one more quote 🙂
“The cosmogonic cycle is presented with astonishing consistency in the sacred writings of all the continents, and it gives to the adventure of the hero a new and interesting turn; for now it appears that the perilous journey was a labor not of attainment but of reattainment, not discovery but rediscovery. The godly power sought and dangerously won are revealed to have been within the heart of the hero all the time.” – Joseph Campbell – It seems “The longest way round is the shortest way home” – C.S. Lewis
PeterParticipantHi Lily
Its sounds like you have a good idea of what you need to work on and what you need to do.
With regards with working on understanding your past and how its impacting your present finding a new therapist with that specific goal in mind might be helpful. I found David Richo books a helpful guide – ‘When the Past Is Present’ and ‘The Five Things We Cannot Change’
For the issue of what you can do now I like what you said, “I think I need to set small tasks for myself and not do too much at once.”
From the list I would start with – exercising more while practicing non-judgment. “Just do it” no thinking required
I challenge you to go for a walk at lunch or after supper everyday for the next two weeks. Doesn’t have to be far.
While your walking, notice your thoughts. Notice what happens if you label yourself based on the thoughts you have. There is no right or wrong way to take a step, no right or wrong thoughts. Each step is only a step each thought only a thought. Feel the wind and the sun or the rain… notice that the thoughts quite and change if you set your attention on the light in the trees… notice that thoughts flow, they can be observed without attaching ‘yourself’ to them…. Without having to follow them down the rabbit hole…
PeterParticipantUsed to ask the question about ‘finding myself’ allot, not so much any more. Today I might ask what helps me feel engaged with life.
I like your idea of every day trying something new and your positiveity…. So what will I do today. Not new however today I will go for a walk at Lunch and the gym in the evening.
The following are some quotes I like that concern the idea of ‘finding oneself’
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
Through the unknown, unremembered gate
When the last of earth left to discover
Is that which was the beginning;
At the source of the longest river
The voice of the hidden waterfall
And the children in the apple-treeNot known, because not looked for
But heard, half-heard, in the stillness
Between two waves of the sea.
Quick now, here, now, always–
A condition of complete simplicity
(Costing not less than everything)
And all shall be well and
All manner of thing shall be well
When the tongues of flames are in-folded
Into the crowned knot of fire
And the fire and the rose are one. TS – EliotI like the ideas behind the Hero journey. And the idea that its ok to wander and not have a destination as long as one keep there eyes open.
“All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.” – J.R.R. TolkienAnd I like to read with a eye of looking past the words and entering into mystery.
“Sit in a room and read–and read and read. And read the right books by the right people. Your mind is brought onto that level, and you have a nice, mild, slow-burning rapture all the time.”
We have not even to risk the adventure alone
for the heroes of all time have gone before us.
The labyrinth is thoroughly known …
we have only to follow the thread of the hero path.
And where we had thought to find an abomination
we shall find a God.And where we had thought to slay another
we shall slay ourselves.
Where we had thought to travel outwards
we shall come to the center of our own existence.
And where we had thought to be alone
we shall be with all the world.”
― Joseph CampbellPeterParticipanthi Lily
You are not alone.There is a time for all things including feeling hopeless. The danger is in attaching the sense of self to the emotion allowing the feeling of hopelessness to define you as being hopeless. Such a attachment tends to end in stuckness. A mindfulness practice could help with that.
What kind of therapy were you trying?
Getting a handle on how the past may be influencing your present can be very helpful. Such work is a life long process that everyone should spend time on – Know thyself. That said it is possible to, at the same time work on the smaller doable tasks. For example, putting things off is an issue you can work on without having to attach it to how you feel about yourself. In fact, one of the steps is learning how not to attach judgments about the self to the tasks you set for yourself. One small step at a time. In that regard working with a life coach could be helpful – such a coach would help you focus on your goals.
PeterParticipantYou might like this guided meditation from Alan Watts
PeterParticipantHi Nomad (not all who wonder are lost)
You mention that – the reality is that I’m in the present now… the reality is ‘you’ are always in the present. Its the only place ‘you’ can be. When you imagine the future you are bringing the future into the present.
Anyway if I understand, your saying that you can only quite your mind when you are focusing on goals and desire for the future? That your intention of meditation and awakening is to get control or this thing you call ego in order to achieve those desires?
There is a time for everything and this may not be the time worry about process. It may be enough just have started… and being open to learning.
Perhaps a place to start is to come into relationship with the ego. For many the ego is something we are ‘supposed’ to defeat. Its bad… however the ego plays a important role in becoming. Consciousness is a product of the experience tension. Here is a paradox for you – it takes a person with a healthy ego to detach the sense of self from the ego. A weak ego will experience any attempt at detachment as trying to kill it and it will engage the ‘id’ to fight back.
Try to communicate a experience, to yourself or others without using the word ‘I’. You can’t. Notice that the ‘I’ is a construct of language, a symbol that points past it self to something we don’t quite see. Because we can’t see ‘it’ the error we make is mistaking this construct ‘I’ for the Self . We do this by attaching the ‘I’ to experience, emotions, desires, thoughts… we say and believe ‘I am the experience, I am the emotion = identification and attachment of the the construct of ‘I’ to a illusion which becomes ego – the ego believes ‘I am my ego’. It’s a difference getting to experience the emotion of sadness… and defining the ‘I’ as being the emotion of sadness.
One of the ideas behind meditation is to learn how to observe our thoughts, breathe… in time we notice that the ‘I’ is a constrict, a illusion. As we become mindful of this truth we learn to detach the ‘I’, the ego, from the emotion, thought, experience… the mind becomes the still point.
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PeterParticipantI suspect the thought of being good enough crosses everyone mind especially at the end of a relationship. Its important to take responsibility for our stuff so asking ourselves if there was something we can learn, do better can be helpful however we must be careful not to take on what does not belong to us and that we don’t attach our sense of self to the acceptance of others.
That you ask the question – You are good enough
PeterParticipant― Hermann Hesse “Home is neither here nor there. Home is within you, or home is nowhere at all.”
“For me, trees have always been the most penetrating preachers. I revere them when they live in tribes and families, in forests and groves. And even more I revere them when they stand alone. They are like lonely persons. Not like hermits who have stolen away out of some weakness, but like great, solitary men, like Beethoven and Nietzsche. In their highest boughs the world rustles, their roots rest in infinity; but they do not lose themselves there, they struggle with all the force of their lives for one thing only: to fulfill themselves according to their own laws, to build up their own form, to represent themselves. Nothing is holier, nothing is more exemplary than a beautiful, strong tree.
When a tree is cut down and reveals its naked death-wound to the sun, one can read its whole history in the luminous, inscribed disk of its trunk: in the rings of its years, its scars, all the struggle, all the suffering, all the sickness, all the happiness and prosperity stand truly written, the narrow years and the luxurious years, the attacks withstood, the storms endured. And every young farm boy knows that the hardest and noblest wood has the narrowest rings, that high on the mountains and in continuing danger the most indestructible, the strongest, the ideal trees grow.
Trees are sanctuaries. Whoever knows how to speak to them, whoever knows how to listen to them, can learn the truth. They do not preach learning and precepts, they preach, undeterred by particulars, the ancient law of life.
A tree says: A kernel is hidden in me, a spark, a thought, I am life from eternal life. The attempt and the risk that the eternal mother took with me is unique, unique the form and veins of my skin, unique the smallest play of leaves in my branches and the smallest scar on my bark. I was made to form and reveal the eternal in my smallest special detail.
A tree says: My strength is trust. I know nothing about my fathers, I know nothing about the thousand children that every year spring out of me. I live out the secret of my seed to the very end, and I care for nothing else. I trust that God is in me. I trust that my labor is holy. Out of this trust I live.
When we are stricken and cannot bear our lives any longer, then a tree has something to say to us: Be still! Be still! Look at me! Life is not easy, life is not difficult. Those are childish thoughts. Let God speak within you, and your thoughts will grow silent. You are anxious because your path leads away from mother and home. But every step and every day lead you back again to the mother. Home is neither here nor there. Home is within you, or home is nowhere at all.
A longing to wander tears my heart when I hear trees rustling in the wind at evening. If one listens to them silently for a long time, this longing reveals its kernel, its meaning. It is not so much a matter of escaping from one’s suffering, though it may seem to be so. It is a longing for home, for a memory of the mother, for new metaphors for life. It leads home. Every path leads homeward, every step is birth, every step is death, every grave is mother.
So the tree rustles in the evening, when we stand uneasy before our own childish thoughts: Trees have long thoughts, long-breathing and restful, just as they have longer lives than ours. They are wiser than we are, as long as we do not listen to them. But when we have learned how to listen to trees, then the brevity and the quickness and the childlike hastiness of our thoughts achieve an incomparable joy. Whoever has learned how to listen to trees no longer wants to be a tree. He wants to be nothing except what he is. That is home. That is happiness.” ― Hermann Hesse
March 16, 2018 at 7:28 am in reply to: Should I be proud of my achievements if they were obtained through luck? #197611PeterParticipantShould I be proud of my achievements if they were obtained through luck
Pride can be a complex emotion, to much and we lose the ability to see others and ourselves, to little and we lose the ability to see ourselves and others. When we can take pleasure in our work we ought to. At the same time we need to be careful that we don’t attache our sense of self on our work, achieves or failures. The ego likes to attach itself to achievements – “I” am a good person because I am good a playing the piano. The ego will also attach itself to our failures – “I” am a bad person because I suck at playing the piano. ‘You’ are not your ego
Take pleasure in your achievements just be careful if you find yourself defining yourself as being this or that based on those achievements.
PeterParticipantHi Rhys
Its normal in relationships to worry and experience jealousy… That said the anxiety and panic attacks are your ways of coping with uncertainty, worry and concern. From that perspective the attacks are not connected to your relationship.
The first task then is not to ‘fix’ your relationship but to find a better method of coping with uncertainty, worry and concern. These issues belong to you so be mindful if you start to project them onto your partner. For example, giving your power away by making your partner responsible for your feelings.
If you can try to find a way to create some space where you can ‘detach’ yourself from the experience of panic – as in not attach your sense of ‘I’ to the experience/emotions. (you are not your experiences or your emotions or your relationship…) Here you feel what you feel without becoming what you feel – a difference between ‘I feel sad’ and ‘I am sad’
By ‘detaching’ your sense of ‘I’ from the experience and emotions you will be better able to de-escalate the anxiety creating the space where you can better deal with the concerns you may have about your relationship .
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