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PeterParticipant
I think your right. The place to start to move forwarded may be with forgiveness and doing so perhaps refrain your story
Forgiveness is an Art – especially when it comes to forgiving ourselves, which is always entangled with our ability to forgive others. We forgive others as we forgive ourselves.
Very much recommend the book ‘The Art of Forgiving’ by Lewis B. Smedes
Also Clarissa Pinkola Estes tells a story ‘the Crescent Moon Bear’ which is about forgiveness and can be found in her book, ‘Women Who Run with the Wolves’ Or in audio CD “Theater of the Imagination”. (Yes, the book intended target is women but men can learn a great deal from it as well. Especially when one embraces symbolic language and doing so realize that the symbolic words masculine and feminine are not about gender. The symbols are informed by gender but do not represent a gender)
According to Clarissa there are Four Stages to Forgiveness:
to forgo – move forward, don’t let what happened stop you from living your truth
to forbear – to abstain from punishing – holding yourself and others accountable but as punishment.
to forget – and in do not dwell – We don’t forget what happened to us instead we do not dwell
to forgive – finding a place of being able to say yes to the experience As It Was without attachment.
PeterParticipantMy own experience on dealing with loss and how to “gain back happiness” was to understand that happiness wasn’t a something that we gained or lost but ‘a something’ that is experienced in the moment when we notice. We are surprised by joy, surprised by happiness. The key to be surprised is to remain open to possibility. I think that is how we move forward and live life in the present moment as it is, life as it is, and find that we can say Yes to our experiences.
The following link connects to many good talks on dealing with loss http://www.crazygoodgrief.com/the-best-ted-talks-on-grief-growth/
PeterParticipantTo clarify when I mentioned the practice. I was talking about something that we work on in the moment and not only when we set time aside and meditate. Mediation is where we practice the practice while practice is an intention we set in each moment we experience.
When you become aware of your consciousness becoming fixated on the past, memory, fear, wall…. you pull it back, create space, breathe and see it for what it is, the past that does not need to have any influence on the present.
“We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality”. -Seneca
PeterParticipant“At the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.” – T. S. Eliot quotes .
I was hoping that just maybe you would be able to avoid the exploration of the past and realize that you are already home. (isn’t that what ended up happening after your break? You discovered that together you were home? … Yet something remains undone…)
On the face of it, it ought to be as easy as saying yes to the past as it was and move forward into the present. Instead letting go becomes a difficult process to work though… we work for that which no work is required.
I very much relate to what your saying DP. When we become fixated on a thought or memory/past it can become a habit that we can’t look away from and so demands healing in the present.
We are broken and a function of relationships is to heal ourselves. In your situation because you can’t yet take your eyes off the “wall” (that you are afraid of crashing into) there is something that you have yet to learn so you may need to understand how the past is in the present and what to do about it. Really do recommend the book ‘When the past is in the Present’
Other questions you may want to consider. Why can’t you take your eyes off the “wall”? Are you afraid of being happy? Do you have a tendency to work against the things you want? Is their a past hurt your trying to heal… are you trying to push your partner away while at the same time hoping that they won’t go… recreating a past hurt in the hopes of healing it now?
PeterParticipantMemory is a trickster. As you mentioned what you remember is hazy. Yet you are judging your past from the perspective on what you have learned years latter. Your 12-year-old self didn’t know what you know now so judging her by what you know now is unskillful. We all feel regret for some past action or other, but all the regret in the world isn’t going to change the past. The best we can do is that when we learn better we do better.
Its clear you have learned something about yourself from the experience and realise that such actions are not who you are or want to be… so I don’t see the point on remaining fixated on the memory.
PeterParticipantI am unable to shake off her past
“In racing, they say that your car goes where your eyes go. The driver who cannot tear his eyes away from the wall as he spins out of control will meet that wall; the driver who looks down the track as he feels his tires break free will regain control of his vehicle.”- Garth Stein
The practice is learning how to direct one’s consciousness and pull it back to the ‘still point’ when it becomes fixated on some thought or memory… especially those connected to fear and uncertainty.
If you want the relationship to continue then let the past go and focus your awareness on gratitude for the relationship you have now. It really is that straight forward. There is no try only do… no need to torture yourself our you partner.
Recommend the book: When the Past Is Present: Healing the Emotional Wounds that Sabotage our Relationships Paperback – by David Richo
We all have a tendency to transfer potent feelings, needs, expectations, and beliefs from childhood or from former relationships onto the people in our daily lives, whether they are our intimate partners, friends, or acquaintances.
PeterParticipantI can certainly relate you your experience. I have a good job and work with good people but at the start of each day I feel empty and it’s an act of will to get started. In my case I think the nagging something I feel comes from the thought/intuition that I’m not doing the work I ought to be doing… That there is something I’m missing… probably relational. Only I don’t know what it is that I can do about it.
You said “I just feel as though I’m mum, wife and teacher but I’m not feeling the joy and wonder that I use to feel.”
I’ve been reading ‘The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself’ by Michael A. Singer. Michael suggest contemplating on the question ‘who am I’. As you do so he takes you down that road to discover you are not what you do, and more then that you are not your thoughts, mind, body, feelings, memories or experiences… The Self, capital S, is the ‘I’ that is conscious. You are not Mum, teacher, wife but the I that observes the experience of mum, teacher, wife… you are not your thoughts but the I that observes thoughts…
At first, I thought that what Michael was suggesting was at best semantics, however, I started the practice of reminding myself that ‘I am not the experience – I am the I that is observing the experience’. What I am finding is that doing so has allowed me to create some space to detach from the experience and the anxiety I was feeling. It’s a subtle change of perspective which I trust will eventually lead me to observing what lies behind that nagging something that I’m missing – not observing
PeterParticipantDo you have any interests? There are communities for everything, from woodworking, dancing, running, quilting, gaming….
You might also want to contact a professional to talk to and who would also know of groups in your area that could help
PeterParticipantThe words we use have power. Most people associate the word diet with restriction and privation. If we do so the mind will likely fixate on what we are depriving ourselves and the desired goal of being healthy is over whelmed. Not only are we more likely to binge we insure that we feel quality and deserve to be punished…. Feeding negative self talk that we aren’t good enough and deceive to be unhappy and unhealthy. Defeated before you even got started
Instead of a diet as restrictions chose a diet of abundance the abundance of becoming.
My own experience awakening to my diet was that over 65% was grain based. Even though I lost weight by exercising and keeping the amount of food down to the needed calories after a few weeks I would just binge. I felt so hungry and craved more and more salt and sugar/grains. It seems today’s processed grains will provide short bursts of energy and feelings of fullness for an hour or two but act like sugar in the body, triggering the body to store (weight gain) resulting in inflammation and blood-sugar imbalances.
Talking to a naturopath and nationalist he noted that my diet (as in what I was eating not what I wasn’t eating as restricting) wasn’t balanced. That I needed more fats and protein and less dairy and grain. He suggested that I avoid grains and dairy. Not as a restriction but to avoid.
After two weeks of avoiding grains and adding butter back into my diet I found I wasn’t hungry between meals and lost 8 pounds. I used to crave, really crave, chips and pizza and when I binged that was my go to. I can say that after three months of avoiding grains and -30 pounds I don’t crave anymore. I sometimes think about buying chips and such again but it’s a muscle memory physiological thing more then a craving.
I was at a work function the other week and pretty much everything they served all the junk foods. I partook. After just a few moments I notice that my body wasn’t feeling so great and that I didn’t really enjoy those foods anymore. I didn’t feel deprived but instead grateful that my body new what it needed and didn’t need and that I could hear it.
PeterParticipantYet I feel like a failure for dropping out of the medicine course as it may have been my only opportunity.
I’ve been re-reading ‘The Untethered Soul’ by Michael A. Singer a book that explores the question of who we are. He arrived at the conclusion that “our identity is to be found in our consciousness, the fact of our ability to observe ourselves, and the world around us”.
In other words, you are not your thoughts, you are not your mind, you are not your body, you are not your experiences, you are not your feelings, you are not your memories… You are consciousness that observes thoughts, mind, body, feelings, experiences, memories… (The authentic ‘I’ is the still point from which all things move, call it Buddha consciousness, Christ consciousness, the philosopher stone)
From that perspective, you get to step back and doing so direct your consciousness vice letting it run wild. Consciousness is attracted to ‘loud noises’, fear, anxiety, hope…. but undisciplined will fixate and feed what it fixates on. The practice is to learn how to direct our consciousness.
Michael suggests that when we are feeling like a failure that we ask ourselves Who is it that is feeling like a failure. What part of this I is feeling like a failure? If you drill down far enough you will discover this thing you think of as ‘I’ is observing this experience of feeling, and in observing can choose not to let it have a hold on you. (no need to fixate) The Experience was something for you to notice, and once noticed can be allowed to pass through.
We cannot know how our choices may or may not impact our path of experience however knowing that the authentic ‘I’ is the observer there is never failure or loss of opportunity. You are exactly where you need to be for the next experience to happen.
And here is the secret… this place you find yourself moving from is the only place in which you can move from. If your on the wrong foot, the only way to get to the right foot, is by moving from the wrong foot. And when you get to the right foot you know that there was no other way to have gotten there then by having moved through the wrong one.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 1 month ago by Peter.
September 29, 2017 at 12:12 pm in reply to: let me introduce you to my story .. I need some advice #170969PeterParticipantYou might like ‘The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself’ by Michael A. Singer
“There is nothing more important to true growth than realizing that you are not the voice of the mind – you are the one who hears it.”
“Only you can take inner freedom away from yourself, or give it to yourself. Nobody else can.”
“Eventually you will see that the real cause of problem is not life itself. It’s the commotion the mind makes about life that really causes the problems.”
“Imagine if you used relationships to get to know other people, rather than to satisfy what is blocked inside of you. If you’re not trying to make people fit into your preconceived notions of what you like and dislike, you will find that relationships are not really that difficult. If you’re not so busy judging and resisting people based upon what is blocked inside of you, you will find that they are much easier to get along with—and so are you. Letting go of yourself is the simplest way to get closer to others.”
“How would you feel if someone outside really started talking to you the way your inner voice does? How would you relate to a person who opened their mouth to say everything your mental voice says? After a very short period of time, you would tell them to leave and never come back. But when your inner friend continuously speaks up, you don’t ever tell it to leave. No matter how much trouble it causes, you listen.”
“To attain true inner freedom, you must be able to objectively watch your problems instead of being lost in them… Once you’ve made the commitment to free yourself of the scared person inside, you will notice that there is a clear decision point at which your growth takes place.”
PeterParticipantI know this might sound trite however in such a case. There is No Try Only Do.
What I mean is that if you want different your going to have to do different and that that will require work.
You mentioned that you have all this unidentified anger that you can’t (as yet) release. You might find working with professional in this area helpful and a good place to start. You will also need to change the language you use when relating to yourself. No more cant’s, no more judging your feelings as being bad or wrong. They are just feelings, information, that once felt can be released.
I like your goal. that when you do learn to master your thoughts and the story you tell yourself you could be of great help to others
With regards to the Law of Attraction. Such a practice requires a lot of work as it must come from the authentic known self. Most people may want to attract happiness but at some level don’t feel they deserve happiness (if they even understand what happiness is) and so we work against ourselves.
Also, most people that study the Law of Attraction, mistake it for Positive Thinking, and don’t know that it originates with Hermetic Philosophy that consist of 7 laws
- Mentalism – The All is mind; the Universe is mental.
- Correspondence – As above, so below, as below, so above.
- Vibration – Nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates.
- Polarity – Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites.
- Rhythm – The pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates. There is a time for everything
- Cause & Effect – Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause.
- Gender – Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes. (Masculine and Feminine here is not about being male and female. We all, everything embody’s the Masculine and Feminine regardless of sex)
The mastery of the seven principles is what allows one to master the “Law of Attraction”
PeterParticipantIf things get really hard you might want to talk to a professional. Its great to be able to vent to a friend however having someone you can talk who’s perspective isn’t wrap up in how they perceive us to be/need us to be can be a great help
We need our fiends stay within the boundaries of who we think they are just as they need us to stay within the boundaries of who they think we are…. so it can get messy if we are always using them to vent to.
PeterParticipantOne of the purposes of Relationships is to act as a container were we workout the issues that keep us from becoming our authentic selves. The relationship should provide a safe place to make our issues conscious so that we might deal with it. Often, we will find that our past, (past hurts, expectations, hopes…) is in the present and influencing the relationships in various ways that we may not be aware of. (The TV show ‘This is Us’ has many good examples of how the past is in the present and how the characters deal with them in order to grow) If we never make the founding issues conscious then we will just keep replaying/recreating the dramas/fights until the relationship ends. It is often the pain of a relationship ending that is Love’s last attempt to get our attention.
If you have found yourself repeating patterns within the relationships then you might want to take some time for yourself and examine what it is that you really want and how your going about getting it. In Relationship we assume we know what we mean when we use words like Love and the expectations we have about love yet very few people take the time to examine their role in love…
“Most people think of love as a feeling, but love is not so much a feeling as a way of being present.” How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving by David Richo (very much recommend this book)
PeterParticipantYou are experiencing what most of us have experienced at some point in our teenage years and a lot of it is influenced by chemical changes of puberty. As well this is the time we start taking ownership between what we were taught and what we think. I suspect you started to notice that what you learned about how the world should be is not the way the world is and in this light that peoples actions don’t always follow what they say. (Including our own) It’s a very confusing time so I don’t think your losing your find. Far from it as the way you were able to write about your experience was very articulate.
Try not to be to hard on yourself. Its important to feel what your feeling however try not to add judgments about how you feel as that tends to intensify them. Feeling bad about feeling bad is a horrible place to get stuck in.
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