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samyParticipantHi anita
What you’ve written helps me. But there are certain things I am confused about, on how I can apply these principles to my life. I’m wondering, what is attachment –
Don’t get attached to any particular feeling, be it joy or sorrow. Peel off fear from this – is spirituality ( wrt to dukkha, annata and annica) about accepting everything. If I am suffering because of a situation, is wanting something else not considered spiritual? Aren’t there situations worse than mine, with abuse, with torture – is wanting to change that wrong? I am confused about action. Is taking action against something that is – wrong? When do I know I should act vs accept?
Your face, your body, your thoughts, perceptions, sensations, feelings- all these will get their final break. It is a certainty. Take comfort in this certainty – the break I want is not from any of these. Feelings yes, but only in the context of my experience. I want my experience in this moment to be a little better. The final break gives me no comfort. I want to have a better experience before that final break. I will lessen my attachment to these wants as you’ve said. I understand I can change my experience. But the present is hard. But, I can apply this now – Don’t get attached to any particular feeling, be it joy or sorrow. Peel off fear from this feeling, and any other. Hush the fear, Girija, hush….
Girija
samyParticipantHi Tommy
I will look into this Buddha’s four noble truths
Is it not enough to be given the chance to live. Experience joy, love? A chance to escape suffering and the cycle of life, death and rebirth? I suppose I hadn’t yet learnt to look at this as a chance. You’ve taught me that, thank you.
samyParticipantWhat if this moment is too painful. I know there is work to be done, to change myself and the situation around. But, right now it’s too painful. I don’t want to live right now. I don’t want to go through tomorrow. I don’t want to be who I am in the situations I’m in. I want a break from this.
samyParticipantHi Tommy
I am very sorry for your loss.
Dukkha is very clear for me now.
The story about the mother and baby makes me sad. Why do we have to be born at all when we know it’s going to be suffering Who is the metaphorical baby that has sent us splashing like this, and why? Why do we need to exist like this? We can learn to avoid suffering, but why is it there in the first place? Why do we exist to experience joy at all? Why are we required to experience anything at all, in this form. Why does this form exist? Why did we get these bodies and why are we creating all these things – good and bad. These were just my thoughts.
samyParticipantThis may sound rude but nobody is in an almost relationship. You are either in one or not. And you are not. Don’t let people drag you along. If he wanted to, he would. And he doesn’t want a relationship. You are just lurking on the sidelines waiting for him to give you the validation of being his girlfriend/boyfriend
Nobody should have you on your toes. A relationship should be about belonging and companionship. I don’t really care about attachment styles. If someone is triggering anxiety in you it is best for you and them to put an end to it.
He has already shown you what this is:
he takes longer time to reply, and the answer is usually short – not interested
2. the frequency we text each other has declined a lot – not interested
3. we still share lunch photo daily – is the bar this low?
4. he no longer ask questions and cares about me – not interested
5. our interaction has gotten less fun than before – not interested
6. we no longer wish good night sleep daily (occasionally yes) – please, stop this!You deserve to be in a relationship where you feel secure, wanted and loved. I wish him well and hopes he finds that too. But I want to help you. The attention he gave you in the start had you hooked and you have let 2 years go by with crumbs of hope that you will “get” him. He is not a prize. Stop chasing people when they have shown you what they think of you.
Please work on your self-esteem. Why are you accepting almost relationships. For 2 years? You are lacking a healthy sense of boundaries and standards. I did too, so I am not judging. Please wake up. And you may get advice to communicate but this I am against. Some things are bare minimum. Even if you got into a relationship with him, you already know what it’s going to be like – not fulfilling and anxiety inducing.
I’m always worry about him getting close to other girls especially now that he got back into office. So by my paranoia mind I always assume to the worst case scenario, which in this case, it felt like he is pulling away. So I’m not sure if i’m being too clingy or he’s just getting busy with the ‘new normal’ life. – he is not your partner so you are wrong here to expect anything. But in the future, if a partner makes you insecure about loyalty, introspect on if it is really you or if that person is not meeting your needs. Don’t try to be the “cool girlfriend”. You trust people when they earn your trust.
Your anxious attachment style is tied to your self-esteem issues. Do work on that.
This person is not even a proper friend. Take your time and energy back. If you need to cut contact to recover from the almost relationship. Do it. Focus on you. Be with people and invest in activities that fill you up with joy.
Sorry if it hurt your feelings but I need you to recover from this and fly high. I know you deserve good things, please believe that.
samyParticipantHi Tommy
I would like to discover further if you don’t mind.
To be sad of feel sadness is human. To have problems is human. If you feel love or pain then that is human. – I was using the literal meaning to understand. But, I need help with this. I understand loving without attachment. But, is there sadness without attachment? Isn’t wishing something was one way and not another the root of sadness. Whether it is health, or how the world is, or how your situation is – if you wish it was different, it would cause sadness. But isn’t wishing also desiring? I understand it is human. And human existence is one of experiencing dukkham. This is a truth.
I understand the definition of annica. This is a truth as well, we see it in our experience.
Annata you’ve helped give me some clarity on this. Please correct me if I have understood it wrong. Would it mean that we should not assign meaning to who we think we are in this body. Taking birth in this body, in this time, in these circumstances gives us a particular “identity” – of being an individual – defined by our experiences, desires and attachments. But that is not who we are? When the body dies, that identity dies. This identity is tied to the body. It cannot exist without a body. There is no atma, our nature is not one of having atmas, individual “energies” without bodies – an-atman. We are not a collection of atmas. Instead, there is one of some kind and we are all that? And there is no “we”.
samyParticipantThanks for mentioning the truths, Tommy.
I am writing what I understand currently as I have been meaning to explore Buddhism.
Dukkha is suffering, sadness, problems.
Anicca is Anityam – not daily, so in this case, not to be expected daily – it is not forever. So it’s not going to be around forever – hence, impermanence.
Annata is anatman in sanskrit, which would mean without an atma- so this would mean “not a soul” or “does not have a soul”? You are not a soul? This I am not sure how to interpret. Searched the internet but it is not clear yet.
samyParticipantHi creation impeccability
Thanks for elaborating. I understood you correctly the first time. Language was not an excuse, I don’t really need an excuse here. Nor am I trying to argue.
I appreciate your perception of your life and the way you are living. You seem to have discovered and truly felt a deeper truth. I am yet to feel or experience that in my life.
I’ll pray for your life partner and you.
Samy
samyParticipantHi creation impeccability,
Are you saying we shouldn’t think about what is normal? You said release adherence and resistance to the norm? Aren’t they opposites? I thought you were telling me to resist the norm. You might be conveying something deep, but English isn’t my first language, so I am really confused by that. I’m sorry.
samyParticipantGlad to know I made your day, anita 🙂
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samyParticipantThat’s awesome, anita! I am really happy. My moment of happiness as soon as I wake up 🙂
Hope you have a good night’s sleep!
Girija
samyParticipantIf what I pasted above doesn’t help. This video has a different approach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlQFSYkuO0k
samyParticipantOk, anita. Good luck. I tried posting a link to a video that might help, but it says awaiting moderation. Please search on youtube, you will find videos that are easy to follow, and it would be easier to follow along and pause the video than follow written out steps.
Hope you have a great day.
Girija
samyParticipantHi anita
The initially paste I did was badly formatted. I’ve edited it in the same reply.
samyParticipantCould you try the below steps. And let me know if your screen looks different than what the steps suggest.
Step 1Sign in to your Hotmail account using your email address and password.
Step 2
Click the “Options” button from the menu at the top right of the screen and select “More options” from the dropdown menu.
Step 3
Look for the “Junk e-mail” section of the “Options” menu that opens. Click the “Safe and blocked senders” option. You can view email addresses marked as safe and email addresses that you have blocked here
Step 4
Click “Blocked senders” to view a list of the blocked email addresses.
Step 5
Select the email address you want to unblock from the list of blocked email addresses and then click “Remove from list.” The email address you removed is now unblocked and you can receive email messages from this address.
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