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Anyways I have another question. Did you also had self-esteem issues growing up? How did you tackle it?
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
How are you doing?Wow, you’re quite ambitious wanting to learn 3 new languages!
Well romance languages are kind of similar to one another, So not so hard and it’s just fun watching old vintage French and Italian movies on weekends so…
I myself am more of an utilitarian type of person – I’d do it only if I absolutely need it, e.g. if I want to live there.
Well that’s also good and feels like less burden I guess haha
So you too are keen to leave, right, because you’ve started getting bored with the city you live?
Yes. I get bored pretty quickly. If there aren’t enough things that interest me
Great that you gave the newcomers the freedom to make mistakes, so they don’t need to feel so anxious! That, together with some meditation techniques, might be really helpful.
Yup! I really hope so
Well, the first thing is to become more mindful – to slow down and observe yourself as you’re going through some of those triggering situations. To notice that e.g. “my anxiety is going up because she mentioned a long-term commitment”. You notice it and you know it’s a trigger for you, which gets you to react defensively (fight-or-flight).
So if you don’t want to react defensively and run away immediately, you may want to take some slow breaths to calm yourself down. And you can tell yourself “I am being triggered now”. Also, don’t judge yourself for being triggered. Instead, have compassion for yourself as you’re observing the surge of emotions and the impulse to run away.Okay so I’ll note this and try to work on that. Thanks! In some situations like when my anger gets triggered I do notice that directly, be mindful about it and then ask questions and calm it down after some slow breaths
So just breathe and observe yourself without judgment. That will help you stay in your rational brain and not be completely taken over by the limbic brain. Maybe this is enough for starters. Or you can also tell yourself something like “I don’t need to get married if I don’t want to. I am free to decide what I want to do.” If you don’t trust these affirmations (i.e. if you don’t trust that you have the freedom to decide), you’d need to work on that in therapy.
Hmm I think I can trust these affirmations if I reach to this step after being mindful about this specific trigger
But in any case, strengthening the observer part of yourself would be very important. Your therapist suggested the same: mindfulness. Be mindful, i.e. notice when you get triggered. And then try to slow down and calm yourself down, instead of reacting from your limbic brain, making rash decisions.….Yes I agree
Yes, when you make a mistake, or when you feel you should be doing more at work, call in the positive father figure and send the drill sergeant away
Yes that’s what I’m working on.. You think act as a father figure to my cat counts? 😂
Yes, you’ve been independent since your teenage years, and it certainly made an impact on you. In fact, you said the reason you left home at 16 or 17 was that you didn’t want anyone (specially your parents) to tell you what to do and how to live your life. You wanted to be free from their grip and their control (and their judgment).
Living with someone and being partially “dependent” on them, or at least affected by them, probably causes a terrible fear in you. Because in your mind, it could be that living with someone means to be subject to their control, judgment, constraints to your freedom etc. Maybe you equate living with a partner to living with your parents…. and it terrifies you?Hmm well that’s an interesting and clever of you to think from that perspective and I think yeah! I don’t like being even partially “dependent” on someone or affected by them. It could be because I like to control (It’s lot better than before but still) but not being controlled. Because I prefer some things should be my way. And It should be without judgements. Like I know I’m in touch with my inner child and I still do lot of things that an adult actually doesn’t do like I turned into a kid when I’m with kids, Different kind of bicycling, Singing and dancing for no reason (Lot of times while cooking, Watching Anime and Cartoons and lot of things like that) And I kind of fear they would judge me for that and not actually understand. And also constrains to my freedom is a big thing you see sometimes I can’t say No to a person even though I’d like to say No. But another reason is I really fear disappointing them. So yeah lot of things going on
You’re afraid of intimacy, of being judged by the other, perhaps of being controlled by them and losing your freedom. As I said above, perhaps you see an intimate relationship a similar kind of prison like you saw your childhood and the relationship with your parents? And that’s why the very idea of living with someone in a committed relationship gives you the creeps?
Hmm I guess so.. with my parents It was mainly the freedom thing because of their overprotectiveness. But I do get what you mean in relationships we also get over caring and over protective.. or at least that’s something how I feel it
I am glad that your real connections are growing, and that you see me too as someone who supports your growth. I am really happy for you and am rooting for you, as you continue to walk your path!
Thanks a lot!🙏🏽
SereneWolfParticipantDear Anita,
Your impact is immense here, So the energy you put here to give insights as well. But I guess maybe it could feel draining because it’s mostly giving and not receiving. and As humans we need receiving as well.Dear Lori,
I’m no expert but Maybe she needs a little space to recharge herself?SereneWolfParticipantAlso, I just finished watching the video you told me about – <b>Why it’s important to stay connected. </b>
It was insightful and something to think about
In video he gives good example of Phone’s network connection and asks where are you?
And after some thinking I’m just going back and forth to every connection type. But I’m more jumping on No connection to good connection (To get that next thing addiction)
about bad connection one thing is that now I feel like I’m working on it good enough that I don’t let other people judgments define me so even if they say something I don’t care about it. For example, like what my father told me in past and how critical he was, Yeah, I accept that it gave me an emotional wound to heal but I’m at least not letting that wound to get worse.
And for Real connection – and I think it’s a good reminder of what we talked about having a good supportive people around
I can safety say that my real connections are growing. They help me become who I and empowers me. You, Some good supportive friends, Good career mentors…
So Yeah I’m thankful for everyone and everything. 🙏🏽SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
I’m really glad to know that you’re doing well. So keep it up
And yeah I’m kinda beginner to intermediate level in French. Because I adore romance languages. I want to learn Spanish, Portuguese and Italian as well.What, your manager wants to let go of such a good workforce like yourself?? I say this only half-jokingly, because to me that’s strange. I mean, I’d want to encourage a good, efficient employee to stay and I’d give them a promotion, rather than encourage them to leave… unless he has shares in the other company as well
You see he’s an angel investor in that company. And that position’s salary range is quite high so… and most of all 100% Remote work! Now you see what I mean? 😂
It’s been few months in city and I’m already feeling bored so I need new city adventure you knowA while ago you said you sometimes have trouble saying No to the upper management and so you just agree to everything, which then gives trouble to your team. Has that changed in the meanwhile? Are you more willing to say No to some of the unreasonable requirements coming from the upper management?
Well I’d say I haven’t perfected that I’m still working on Saying No properly but in face to face saying NO is quite hard for me. Via Emails I don’t have much problem now because I have time to think and explain the reasoning and it’s not just fight-or-fight response you know
Sounds great! Meditation for better productivity sounds cool… Are you still keeping the feedback box as well – and are they using it?
Yeah because I noticed that some of the freshers still get anxious and worried for every little work even though I gave them freedom to make mistakes (In a way which I can solve without much issue) So I think if they’re more mindful about this it would be lot better for them in long run. Yup they are using the feedback box recently we made developers dress code 100% casual. For other teams it’s still smart casual. But still I encouraged that they prefer neutral colors so it doesn’t look too funky or sloppy for an office environment
Well, I think you should be very proud of yourself since you’ve achieved a major success: “I made some processes efficient in few weeks that he couldn’t do in months.”
Actually, it occurred to me now that your manager might feel a little threatened by you, since you’ve managed to achieve something he couldn’t do in months. Maybe that’s why he wants to send you away? Sorry if I am too suspicious and his motives are sincere…
Haha thanks!
Oh now that you pointed it out, Maybe??? But I think it’s still win-win situation for both of us. And another thing that I’m doing is that two of my assistants making “ready” for the work that is unfinished or let’s say just continue with the better stability. That way I wouldn’t have to worry much of my absence and ruining the values that I’ve created there.Yes, it was an automatic reaction, triggered by your old wounds. That’s when our rational mind shuts down and only the limbic brain is active, which is all about fight-or-flight. You felt danger and you ran away…
Right and What kind of things could be helpful for automatic triggered reactions in your opinion?
Yes, I can imagine… because you did feel trapped (you’ve already mentioned feeling trapped in the relationship before). And in this case it was just her mentioning the possibility of a long-term relationship that caused you to feel trapped. The alarm bell went off, it signaled danger and you ran away.
Yes right and Inside my head I’m still like missing her and another side of brain is you crazy? It happened for well. You’re lot safe now.
I don’t know what was her dating experience. But I think it can be exhausting for both women and men. If she has met many guys who just want to have fun and no sincere intentions, I can imagine it’s exhausting for her…
Hmm that’s true
Right… I mean objectively, you weren’t in any imminent danger, because she didn’t ask you to marry her or anything like that. But your emotional wound made you see it as danger and react the way you did.
Haha yeah it was a silly move of me.
Have you talked about your fear of relationship/intimacy in therapy?
Yes. She told me to work on being kind with myself and loving myself more. Because it’s a part my CEN (Childhood emotional neglect) and True healing occurs when I learn to BE the loving parent to myself that I never had – Like we talked about the parent figure before (But in most natural and mindful way possible)
She told me to continue the mindfulness practices that I’m doing…
It’s a type of insecurity that I have to work on actively to break this toxic mindset. Accept other people as they are and stop expecting to be perfect because different people will show me love in different way. But if I’m just closing my heart for everyone (including myself) it could get worse over the time.
And another main thing is that my ability to trust others. Because she told me being so much independent since the teenage years now you have mindset that thinks I don’t need anyone (Emotionally) and I’m safe by myself that’s why you fear the emotional vulnerability with others.
And working on replacing on old beliefs to new beliefs to change to thought patterns.
SereneWolfParticipantCoucou Tee,
How are you feeling today?Oh so you would be leaving to another company? I thought you’d be moving up the ladder in your current one… What made you want to leave so soon, after only 3 months of being a manager there?
Yes. Actually, my manager knows this company’s VP well so that’s why he gave me this opportunity. It’s more suitable role because of my diverse skillset with more responsibility. my manager said that VP is really skilled and I can learn a lot from than him.
He said that because I made some processes efficient in few weeks that he couldn’t do in months.Well, it is sort of sudden… Although you’d probably manage to get used to the new people, just like you did with your current team. You say you feel “too much comfortable” around them – does it mean the atmosphere is pleasant and you work well together as a team? What about the changes and improvements you’ve introduced – are you pleased with that?
I don’t know I think it just take efforts for me to get comfortable about new people. and Comfortable by I mean like Not super serious work environment. Which I prefer. Fun and focused team. We make fun of each of other and just comfortable share things which is more than work. Not too much personal but still it feels more connected that way than working with robotic people who are only focused on work you know what I mean? Yet still we finish our projects before deadline.
Also I think I did help a little for more collaborative and connected team from the changes that I’ve introduced. Remember I told you about the vulnerability. Also recently I requested company to give all employees Headspace – Meditation Premium App subscription for free which they’ve accepted. And main thing I taught team how to have more Product-led growth approach.
Am I pleased with that? Well so far I’m pleased but I think I could still do something more.The title of the video is “Why it’s important to stay connected“. In the first 2 minutes there’s a bit of rambling, but after that he gets into the meat of it – definitely worth watching!
Thanks for sharing, I’ll watch the video and let you know.
I see… so it seems your fear of a long-term commitment got triggered when she mentioned it, and your knee-jerk reaction was to run away. A while ago we talked about a committed relationship and freedom, and how it is possible to have both, of course with the right person. But I guess you fear was stronger, so you didn’t want to even try to see what happens next in the relationship and if such compatibility is possible. You called it quits immediately. I am not saying this to judge you, but so you can notice what happened…
Yes you guessed it right. She said it so seriously that I was kind of caught in the middle and I didn’t know what to say and my response was to run away. And yes I do remember we talked about a committed relationship and freedom. But I guess my heart wasn’t ready accept it fully? Maybe That’s why I didn’t even thought about it much and responded this way. And I actually felt like I’m out of some trap after that.
Well, it could be that she’s already experienced quite a few failed relationships and would like at least a chance at something serious? That the guy she is dating doesn’t categorically refuse such an option…
Hmm right dating is exhausting and maybe for women even more exhausting? I guess since most of the time there’s one partner after another.
Maybe her question scared you away, because you thought she’ll be expecting you to marry her? But perhaps she only asked if you’re open to a long-term committed relationship, i.e. don’t exclude this possibility from the get-go?
Yeah it did scared me because I’m scared for a commitment first. But you right perhaps she was asking just for that long-term possibility.
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Oh I’m glad to know that you’re doing bit better. Day by day progress 😀
Wish you luck with the interview! What do you think causes your burnout? Just the preparation for the interview or you’re stressed about other things at work?
Thanks! There is preparation for the interview because I’m doubting my abilities again.
I’m stressed out for other things like if I’m going to join the company, again I’ll have to build the good team relationships with different people. The team that I have now I’m just too much comfortable around them but now thinking about other people and task feels like so much challenge and I’m feeling anxious, overwhelmed and about this. I’m asking myself like am I capable of doing this?So, in the imaginary scenario I’ve mentioned earlier (where you don’t want to admit you miss her texts but you make sarcastic remarks instead) – what do you think she would judge you for if you admitted that you miss her texts?
Well that would be like I’m kind of dependent? Also it’s just I don’t know awkward for me
Thanks for your advice for the date I’ll take the important notes like Asking instead of assuming and Honest and open communication.
So just today we were talking and out of nowhere she asked like are you a person who prefers commitment in relationship or the other way around. So I told her that Honestly if she’s thinking about anything long term commitment with me She can stop. Because as of now I’m not ready for that and therefore I don’t want to waste your time and energy if you want something like that. So she was like I already feel exhausted from dating and things (She’s same age as me) So I was surprised. So I was like I feel like I’ve only started this. And you’re already exhausted? So Yeah I said No to her. I do feel little sad and already miss her a little.
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Hope you’re doing betterLast time I forgot to congratulate you on you applying for a management position – how did it go? Did you get it?
I’m still on the last interview stage. So let’ see.
These days I’m feeling little burned out, yet I still have to prepare for interview and everything because this is good opportunity.Okay, so be aware that you have this false belief “if I show vulnerability, I’ll be attacked.” And change it to some positive statement about vulnerability, e.g. “showing vulnerability is key for a loving relationship”.
Yes right but like you said around right people.
So the solution would be that when you feel your girlfriend is doing something that hurts you – to tell her, instead of resenting her for not figuring it out on her own. Once you tell her, you’ll see how she reacts and whether she can understand and empathize with you…
You see it’s not that easy for me because I’d feel like she’s judging for wrong reasons and not actually understanding me and if I explain her in details it could just make things more uncomfortable.
By the way, I haven’t asked you about your date which was supposed to happen last weekend, right? (around 10 days ago) How did it go, if you don’t mind me asking?
Like I told you before I don’t like the current dating scenario. There is just too much going on and feels like too much work for me. And I don’t want my emotional energy drain that way. I want to be straight-forward about it. But it doesn’t work that way I don’t know
So about the date, It was really good we actually spent more time together than we decided. Had a good coffee and went the near science museum. She was really talkative (Like I noticed before) But tbh I liked her energy and I was comfortable around her. Heck even I was talkative. She’s simple girl and avid reader and into romance novels a lot. She’s also outgoing which is good too.
Now the “dating scenario” so even though next morning she texted me “ I had an amazing time together, we should do this again” and I said yeah me too. After that day I texted her but she was doing like one sentence answers. So I told her good night and slept. And I was talking to my friend and she was like I have to play it cool and don’t seem needy. I mean just texting is needy? I don’t even wanna text anymore if she doesn’t want…so how’s that needy? Another day she texted but it was my turn to “play it cool” and not give her much attention and replying late so yeah it’s still going on like that.. 😂
Another question how much do you aware of the word “situationship”?
Also, Few Days ago I read an article about slow living, Are you practicing any kind of things related to that?
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Oh :(( Please take extra care of yourself. I hope each day brings more comfort and strength. Praying for a good recovery.
showing no understanding and a strong judgmental attitude. So you’re right, it’s probably for the best that you don’t have them as your client.
Yes I think in Management and leadership this kind of things are important too. For professional relationships to grow, There should be good amount of mutual understanding, Not just a business POV.
Yes, sensitivity is the same as vulnerability. You may think it’s your weakness, but at the end of the day, it’s your strength, specially in a romantic relationship. (Just as a side note, we’re not meant to be vulnerable in every relationship, of course, e.g. we don’t want to be sensitive/vulnerable with ill-meaning, toxic people!). However, in a romantic relationship, the goal is to be open and honest with each other, to be able to talk about our fears and weaknesses, and yet be understood and supported by the other – rather than blamed and judged.
Yes you’re right and I’m understanding that now that how much energy and guts needs be sensitive and vulnerable. Yet it’s really important. The person we share sad times we bond with them are much stronger than when we’re just smiling around people even though spending more time with them.
You did say a while ago that you feared sharing too much of your “imperfections” or problems, even if your girlfriend showed compassion, because you thought it would make you “weaker” than her. As if she would use the knowledge of your weaknesses to hurt you, rather than to help you and encourage you…
So you might have a false belief, saying something like “if I show my weakness, I will be attacked”. Perhaps you’ve picked it up in your family of origin – because your father did indeed attack you and chastise you for showing even the slightest weakness? So you’ve learned to hide your weaknesses – not to be attacked?
Yes you guessed it right. I do think it’s maybe because of that
Alright, so you didn’t dare to say that something was bothering you openly, but you used passive aggressive means, such as sarcasm. You were afraid to openly admit that something is hurting you. In other words, you were afraid to openly admit that you are vulnerable and that the person has the power to hurt you. And so instead, you put a shield around your heart… and the language of a shielded heart is sarcasm.
For example, instead of saying “it hurts me when you don’t reply to my texts for an entire day”, you say “I guess you’re so extremely busy that you don’t have time to reply to my texts”. It’s like sending a little poisonous arrow instead of being honest (and vulnerable) and saying “this hurts me”…
Haha again I’m surprised how accurate you are… but yeah you’re on point!
Right… you felt that they didn’t care, even though you’ve never openly expressed what was bothering you. Instead of being honest and vulnerable, you rather blamed it on them and called it quits…. So perhaps your shield started to go up as soon as the person was doing something that was hurting you, but you didn’t have the courage to admit it, and so you switched to sarcasm and started feeling resentment?
Yes exactly! And the thing is whenever I needed something, and it wasn’t there. Like if we scheduled something and I’m giving it importance, but she isn’t, it would just make me furious even though I knew it’s not right to be angry on small matters like that and yet I was doing the silent treatment.
January 22, 2023 at 11:03 am in reply to: Your Daily Must-Do’s for Physical & Mental Health? #414220SereneWolfParticipantHi Helcat,
How are you finding meditation? I found it tough when I started a couple of years ago.Same for me. I started with guided meditation first only with 5 minutes in the starting. Even currently I do 10 minutes after shower when I’m feeling fully fresh. Sometimes at the evening time without time limitation and let mind wonder to get the clear idea of what’s happening you know… It’s definitely helping for being mindful.
I also walk every day and meditate for 15 minutes twice a day. I like to do a 15 minute stretch routine I found on YouTube too. I find that all of these practices help to manage pain.
That’s good!
I’m being very careful with what I’m eating because I’ve been having stomach issues. I noticed that emotional difficulties pop up when I’m having difficulty digesting. The mind / body connection is very interesting!
Hmm interesting I’ll try to read more articles on this when I have some time
I find that keeping a gratitude journal helps with my mental health. Before evening meditation I try and list a few small good things that happened during the day. This helps me sleep and develops a positive attitude.
That’s great for me currently journaling is mostly depends on my mood when I feel like it I can write more than an hour and when I don’t, I just don’t but I’d prefer some consistency though. For Gratitude I’ve created gratitude prayer for things that I’m really grateful for and I really value. The first thing when I wake up is doing that prayer and at least for first 30 minutes not touching my phone. I also turn off Wi-Fi/data when I sleep, and I just only use it for some soothing instrumental music when I wake up in the morning.
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
How are you doing?
How are your exercises coming along?I was little busy. Finally, I got a really good opportunity for a Management Position and I’m on interview stage so I’m hoping to get this position. Because It seems really impactful and I read content of VP, Seems like I can learn lot from her.
So, being motivated and driven: YES. But being like a drill sergeant to yourself: a big NO
Yes, you’re right and I’m working towards putting good silence on that drill sergeant.
Eg. Just few days ago I missed a meeting because I took a nap and I didn’t woke up on time. And was 5 minutes late. I guess he just logged off after 2-3 minutes. Client was furious and he said I don’t want to reschedule meeting because I didn’t attended meeting on time.
So for a minute that sergeant woke up and just started saying things… Look what you did? You’re lazy and blah blah… But I was mindful about it and I listened and took it like it’s good that I didn’t work with impatient client like this. Yes, there was my fault but sometimes it’s good in disguise. I did felt down for a bit that day but I think I took care of it wellCan she intuitively feel the energies?
No I mean she asked me lot of questions beforehand so..
A rigid layer around your heart could be the defense mechanism we’ve talked about: your fear of being emotionally hurt, and that’s why closing your heart and fearing intimacy. Because intimacy requires that we be vulnerable with the other person, that we show our weaknesses, but also that we admit how much we care about and depend on the other. That we admit that they can hurt us. That’s vulnerability.
If we fear being hurt, we’ll close our heart, and we won’t allow anyone to get near. But we’ll also stay alone… So vulnerability is not a weakness, it’s actually a precondition for intimacy and happiness.
Yes Exactly! And thanks for this great reminder! I think I will have to make some notes like this to remember every day that can help in changing my beliefs.
Yes, that’s also a good analogy. In my mind, this rigid layer around the heart is more like a metal shield – protects the heart from being hurt, but doesn’t let anything/anyone inside. In order to soften things up, you’d need to remove the shield at least partially…
Yes you’re right and I thought about it and I think the thing is that I know I’m sensitive. This could be my strength and my weakness. Both. But unconsciously I maybe still thinking more as a weakness and less as a strength. Means still there is some kind of fear.
So now the question is that in your opinion how do you know what are your fears or limiting beliefs? How do you address them?
Now thinking about your dynamic with girls, it could be that after the initial exuberance and vulnerability that you feel towards the girl (feeling very much in love, writing poems…), the fear comes up – the fear that you’ll be hurt. And so the shield goes up and you perhaps enter the drill sergeant mode, putting yourself in a superior position, trying to “improve” her… which helps you to feel less vulnerable. Because if you feel in charge and have the upper hand in the relationship, you feel she can’t hurt you as much?
I am just musing here…. let me know if any of this rings true?
Hmm I think I can’t disagree with this, but I can’t relate with this 100% either (In the present moment). Because as I’ve told you before I had kind of controlling behavior, so I did like having an upper hand most of the time. I always have to be the one who’s making “Right choices” even though sometimes it’s good only from my point of view. And maybe selfish as well?
And as in vulnerable I think yes because I guess I was running from the things I didn’t liked to talk about even though it was important but after my first relationship I’ve decided to clarify things honestly ASAP whatever that is..Yet still there was times I wasn’t able to say things on their face like you’re doing this and it’s hurting me. I was just making sarcastic comment or neglecting on that and be like they should understand these “signals” and they will work on it. And when they haven’t changed their behavior patterns and did the same things over and over. I took it like they’re the ones not putting efforts (even though that they were somewhat aware of this) in this relationship only me who’s working for making it better. So I don’t want it and I’d just breakup.
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Tomorrow is my first appointment…
Okay good, Be sure to update me.
Sure, and also, if you constantly feel the need to “improve” the person, pushing her to do this or that, she might feel she’s not good enough for you. She might feel criticized and judged, like she’s is with a strict parent, not an equal partner. So yes, more empathy and less control is key…
Yes you said so well
Good! So if she complains about something, first listen and empathize. Only then offer advice
Yes, that’s what I’m doing. With lot of communication even with my friends and teammates
Do what feels right to you.
That’s what I believe in Yes
Absolutely – if you feel you’re not ready for marriage, don’t do it. And yes, don’t settle for someone just because others are telling you it’s time to settle.
Yes I know when it’s time to settle.
Great! I am rooting for you!
Oh Thanks!
Well, you’ll see. You’ll need to spend some time together to see how she is in person. But don’t judge her by how tall she is or other physical features – her character and personality are much more important!
You’re right lowering/mute the critic inside me would be lot better.
And Today I had another therapy season.
She said I’m doing lot better than she expected 😌
Also I told her the things that I’m working on Empathy, compassion, Being Good enough for inner voice as well as treating child version of me with more love.etc
Yet she told me she feels like I still have rigid layer around my heart. I’m more sensitive but changing my root beliefs and believe and love myself in healthier will take some more time
And she gave me good example of window glass. What happens when you throw rock at the window glass? Not just that injure the people inside. Rigid things break easily. So let it at ease. Let it feel things let it be softer
She told me if you’re able to being kind with others it’s time to be kind with yourself too.
For that she suggested some Yoga and journaling but like in a way that I’m my own good friend she said it would also help for my compassion part as well
Also she said I still have to work on my root chakra little bit more. My sacral chakra looks already good. But still we’ll work on that and after that Solar plexus chakra which she said I will have put more focus on.
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
thank you for your good wishes. I hope that healing energies will come both from within and without, as I start physical therapy.
For Sure. When you want to start physical therapy?
that you were pushing her the same way you were pushing yourself to do more and better. So that’s one big lesson for your next relationship.
Yes I agree and I think I realize now that the way I require freedom my partner will require freedom too and by pushing and kind of controlling is not the way. It wouldn’t make her feel safe and thus she’d try to pretend something… Am I right?
I also remember that you said you didn’t like her complaining, and so you offered various solutions to fix the problem. But probably you lacked one key step: showing empathy for her problems. Instead, you rushed to solutions immediately. There is a funny video about that, where this is taken to the extreme. It’s on youtube, titled “It’s not about the nail”, by Jason Headley”. Talks exactly about fixing vs just listening/empathizing…
Haha short but on point video. I’m definitely appreciating listening/empathizing.
That’s fine, you don’t need to get married right away.
Okay so this might be the also reason that I feel behind sometimes. My family and friends do expect me get married and be settled ASAP. (Not forcing but still)
Lot of my friends who are even younger than already got married and some have kids as well. Because here getting married in your late 20s considered lot more normal and safer.But I know well that I’m not ready for marriage. I still have my goals to accomplish. And I started to believe in slow love as well. Guess I’m still hopeless romantic!
You can find someone who, like you, isn’t rushing to get married, but wants to enjoy life, travel, perhaps accomplish some professional/career goals first… There are girls like that out there, not everyone wants to get married and have children right away.
Hmm Right as you said not easy to find but possible. And I think right one will come. No need to rush 🙂
You’d need to look for a compatible person, with similar goals and values, and also similar interests. She doesn’t have to like everything that you do, but there should be at least some compatibility, e.g. being an outdoors person, or loving adventure, or whatever is important to you. You can have a committed relationship with such a person, and yet, it wouldn’t require you to give up on some of your career or other life goals.
Yes that’s exactly what I’ve decided!
Well, guys like to suggest such things, but you said it yourself that it wouldn’t be fulfilling, and it could indeed hurt you. It’s not even your style, and I know that if we force ourselves to do something that go against our principles, it’s never a good thing and we always get burned.
Obviously and the thing is if I do something that’s against my principles and values it’d be even hard to sleep for me.
Yes, you can try it and see if she is compatible to you, e.g. if she isn’t rushing to settle down but is more relaxed about it. Or if there are common interests that you can both enjoy in your free time. Or if she seems genuine, not pretending…
Well as of now I think she’s not rushing to settle down but I guess there might be fewer common interests. I’m guessing because she’s not minimalistic like me, likes noisy places, Extrovert. But she’s outgoing and upright honest about things which I liked about her. Also she’s not that much tall but I’ll manage. Okay I’m hard to please I know but maybe I’ll find other good qualities? 😂
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
yes I’ve been to the doctor. I’ll have to go to physical therapy and hopefully that should help… it’s not that simple, but I am hoping that physical therapy will relieve the symptoms.
I see, I hope you’ll be alright and may you able to create the healing energy for your own self.
In fact, I am trying do something that makes me very anxious with respect to my career. But still, I want to try…
In a way that’s really a good step as well. So you should be proud of that. How is your freelancing journey going on?
Good that you haven’t pretended that much in your 2nd relationship. But you’ve mentioned that she saw you as quite critical, pushing her to do things quicker and faster (perhaps similar to how you’ve been pushing yourself?). And you were impatient because she wasn’t following your suggestions? Perhaps in your “brutal honesty”, you were lacking compassion? Again, lack of compassion for both yourself and for her as well?
Yes you analysed it right. I was projecting my things on her. Which wasn’t healthy. But I believe I did learn some compassion from her. She was trying for that but I wasn’t listening and just blindly driven
You’re welcome! Yes, take is slowly, step by step, and see what response you’re getting…
Yes for sure!
I got you. You fear commitment… do you think it’s because you never want to get married (because it seems like a burden, loss of freedom, or something similar), or you don’t want to get stuck with someone who’s not right for you?
I want to get married. I know that because I love kids. But if I get married now I do fear loss of freedom and it’s just that I just have lot to do, still lot to see in this world, lot to accomplish. And another thing is that deep down I think it’s really hard to find the right person (Considering the current dating & relationship scenario). So better to wait… No need be in hurry for that.
So you want to be in a non-committed, casual relationship with someone who is afraid of commitment like you are? Someone who won’t force you to commit, but will just enjoy the time spent together but not want deeper (emotional) intimacy?
As per my situation 2 of my friends suggested me that. And it’s definitely new for me because I haven’t tried that before I know it’s really complex thing to do. Is there something in between relationship middle of casual and committed? 😆
I mean, you can do that, I am sure, but how fulfilling will it be? And what will you learn that way? In my opinion, getting into casual relationships can cause more trouble than good, so I wouldn’t use it for learning. Because it may come with a price, of being heart-broken, or even getting an STD (sorry for being “brutally honest”).
Well you’re right it would just make the heart feels empty one way or another. I believe in safe sex or even being tasted first, so rare to none chance for STD
So I wouldn’t take that route, but would rather take the lessons you’ve learned so far, and try to do it differently next time: take things slow, step by step. Open up with one vulnerable thing, and see how she reacts. Be more compassionate both toward yourself and towards her… So, apply the things that we’ve talked about already.
I’m still thinking about it too. Because one of the girl texted me to spend this weekend with her. To be honest at first, I was really tempted. But I do want to taking things slow and step by step as you said… So I told her for next week and maybe I’ll meet and see how things goes from there
And yeah, I’m working on my compassion and empathy as well 😊
SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
I am a little better and a little more optimistic, thank you for asking. Having a doctor appointment tomorrow, so we’ll see…
I’m glad to know that, I believe you’ve visited the doctor by now?
He did tell him some wise things indeed. I guess his words – to find out who you are and follow your own path – are an inspiration to you too?
Yes I strongly believing in creating in my own path instead of walking on others path that they’ve created. doesn’t matter how great they were
Haha, no way. I am anxious person, with plenty of adrenaline and cortisol in my system, so no need to feel more alive by scaring myself to death
You literally just made an anxiety joke 😂 But I’m telling you, you can try with very small things first. Maybe it would be helpful for your anxiety.
If so, it seems both of you were pretending…. and eventually you broke it off. So perhaps it can be a lesson for you: that if you pretend, or both of you pretend to be something you’re not, it doesn’t end well, and it’s not even attractive to you. That honesty and authenticity is much better, even if it might feel scary at first.
Yes but it doesn’t mean like It was only pretending and nothing else. Thing is that she had some expectations from me, Which indeed wasn’t wrong. She was insecure so…
And in my previous relationship I didn’t pretend anything and mostly said how it is and maybe sometimes brutally honest which I guess may have hurt her in some way as well but yeah.Well, you don’t need to tell her all your deepest secrets on your first date. You need to take it slow and see how she responds to something honest and vulnerable (i.e. less than perfect) that you share about yourself. If she doesn’t like you being honest, or she cannot really empathize with you, that’s a big red flag. But if she can, and she is also sharing about herself, and there’s a mutual understanding (rather than criticism, mocking, feeling superior or inferior to the other…) – that’s a very good sign.
Hmm I think that’s super helpful. Thanks! This would be really helpful for me on how much should I open up in relationships
You’ve already had several failed relationships, so you know your patterns. Perhaps you’re also aware of what contributed to the breakup, and even what is your responsibility in it? If you know your patterns and your fears, you could talk about it in therapy and try to work on it, rather than take those same patterns and fears into a new relationship.
I’ve just watched a video by Henry Cloud, where he said: “What’s going to be new and different this time other than you wanting it to be new and different?” I think it can be applied it to relationships too: If you haven’t worked on those fears, or false beliefs or whatever – what is going to be different in your next relationship, other than you wanting it to be different? You know what I mean?
Yes I got your point. I have to work on this first. And I believe for my pattern there was mainly fear of commitment involved as well. But what I’m saying is that if it’s my fear of commitment then I’m not even looking for a commitment. I’m not that much old to look for a commitment either. Another thing is that there are probably woman like me who’s also have fear of commitment as well.. Then instead of just focusing on fear (Which I have to I know, and it does take time) why not just go with the flow and learn that way?
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