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SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
thank you for your good wishes. I hope that healing energies will come both from within and without, as I start physical therapy.
For Sure. When you want to start physical therapy?
that you were pushing her the same way you were pushing yourself to do more and better. So that’s one big lesson for your next relationship.
Yes I agree and I think I realize now that the way I require freedom my partner will require freedom too and by pushing and kind of controlling is not the way. It wouldn’t make her feel safe and thus she’d try to pretend something… Am I right?
I also remember that you said you didn’t like her complaining, and so you offered various solutions to fix the problem. But probably you lacked one key step: showing empathy for her problems. Instead, you rushed to solutions immediately. There is a funny video about that, where this is taken to the extreme. It’s on youtube, titled “It’s not about the nail”, by Jason Headley”. Talks exactly about fixing vs just listening/empathizing…
Haha short but on point video. I’m definitely appreciating listening/empathizing.
That’s fine, you don’t need to get married right away.
Okay so this might be the also reason that I feel behind sometimes. My family and friends do expect me get married and be settled ASAP. (Not forcing but still)
Lot of my friends who are even younger than already got married and some have kids as well. Because here getting married in your late 20s considered lot more normal and safer.But I know well that I’m not ready for marriage. I still have my goals to accomplish. And I started to believe in slow love as well. Guess I’m still hopeless romantic!
You can find someone who, like you, isn’t rushing to get married, but wants to enjoy life, travel, perhaps accomplish some professional/career goals first… There are girls like that out there, not everyone wants to get married and have children right away.
Hmm Right as you said not easy to find but possible. And I think right one will come. No need to rush 🙂
You’d need to look for a compatible person, with similar goals and values, and also similar interests. She doesn’t have to like everything that you do, but there should be at least some compatibility, e.g. being an outdoors person, or loving adventure, or whatever is important to you. You can have a committed relationship with such a person, and yet, it wouldn’t require you to give up on some of your career or other life goals.
Yes that’s exactly what I’ve decided!
Well, guys like to suggest such things, but you said it yourself that it wouldn’t be fulfilling, and it could indeed hurt you. It’s not even your style, and I know that if we force ourselves to do something that go against our principles, it’s never a good thing and we always get burned.
Obviously and the thing is if I do something that’s against my principles and values it’d be even hard to sleep for me.
Yes, you can try it and see if she is compatible to you, e.g. if she isn’t rushing to settle down but is more relaxed about it. Or if there are common interests that you can both enjoy in your free time. Or if she seems genuine, not pretending…
Well as of now I think she’s not rushing to settle down but I guess there might be fewer common interests. I’m guessing because she’s not minimalistic like me, likes noisy places, Extrovert. But she’s outgoing and upright honest about things which I liked about her. Also she’s not that much tall but I’ll manage. Okay I’m hard to please I know but maybe I’ll find other good qualities? 😂
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
yes I’ve been to the doctor. I’ll have to go to physical therapy and hopefully that should help… it’s not that simple, but I am hoping that physical therapy will relieve the symptoms.
I see, I hope you’ll be alright and may you able to create the healing energy for your own self.
In fact, I am trying do something that makes me very anxious with respect to my career. But still, I want to try…
In a way that’s really a good step as well. So you should be proud of that. How is your freelancing journey going on?
Good that you haven’t pretended that much in your 2nd relationship. But you’ve mentioned that she saw you as quite critical, pushing her to do things quicker and faster (perhaps similar to how you’ve been pushing yourself?). And you were impatient because she wasn’t following your suggestions? Perhaps in your “brutal honesty”, you were lacking compassion? Again, lack of compassion for both yourself and for her as well?
Yes you analysed it right. I was projecting my things on her. Which wasn’t healthy. But I believe I did learn some compassion from her. She was trying for that but I wasn’t listening and just blindly driven
You’re welcome! Yes, take is slowly, step by step, and see what response you’re getting…
Yes for sure!
I got you. You fear commitment… do you think it’s because you never want to get married (because it seems like a burden, loss of freedom, or something similar), or you don’t want to get stuck with someone who’s not right for you?
I want to get married. I know that because I love kids. But if I get married now I do fear loss of freedom and it’s just that I just have lot to do, still lot to see in this world, lot to accomplish. And another thing is that deep down I think it’s really hard to find the right person (Considering the current dating & relationship scenario). So better to wait… No need be in hurry for that.
So you want to be in a non-committed, casual relationship with someone who is afraid of commitment like you are? Someone who won’t force you to commit, but will just enjoy the time spent together but not want deeper (emotional) intimacy?
As per my situation 2 of my friends suggested me that. And it’s definitely new for me because I haven’t tried that before I know it’s really complex thing to do. Is there something in between relationship middle of casual and committed? 😆
I mean, you can do that, I am sure, but how fulfilling will it be? And what will you learn that way? In my opinion, getting into casual relationships can cause more trouble than good, so I wouldn’t use it for learning. Because it may come with a price, of being heart-broken, or even getting an STD (sorry for being “brutally honest”).
Well you’re right it would just make the heart feels empty one way or another. I believe in safe sex or even being tasted first, so rare to none chance for STD
So I wouldn’t take that route, but would rather take the lessons you’ve learned so far, and try to do it differently next time: take things slow, step by step. Open up with one vulnerable thing, and see how she reacts. Be more compassionate both toward yourself and towards her… So, apply the things that we’ve talked about already.
I’m still thinking about it too. Because one of the girl texted me to spend this weekend with her. To be honest at first, I was really tempted. But I do want to taking things slow and step by step as you said… So I told her for next week and maybe I’ll meet and see how things goes from there
And yeah, I’m working on my compassion and empathy as well 😊
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
I am a little better and a little more optimistic, thank you for asking. Having a doctor appointment tomorrow, so we’ll see…
I’m glad to know that, I believe you’ve visited the doctor by now?
He did tell him some wise things indeed. I guess his words – to find out who you are and follow your own path – are an inspiration to you too?
Yes I strongly believing in creating in my own path instead of walking on others path that they’ve created. doesn’t matter how great they were
Haha, no way. I am anxious person, with plenty of adrenaline and cortisol in my system, so no need to feel more alive by scaring myself to death
You literally just made an anxiety joke 😂 But I’m telling you, you can try with very small things first. Maybe it would be helpful for your anxiety.
If so, it seems both of you were pretending…. and eventually you broke it off. So perhaps it can be a lesson for you: that if you pretend, or both of you pretend to be something you’re not, it doesn’t end well, and it’s not even attractive to you. That honesty and authenticity is much better, even if it might feel scary at first.
Yes but it doesn’t mean like It was only pretending and nothing else. Thing is that she had some expectations from me, Which indeed wasn’t wrong. She was insecure so…
And in my previous relationship I didn’t pretend anything and mostly said how it is and maybe sometimes brutally honest which I guess may have hurt her in some way as well but yeah.Well, you don’t need to tell her all your deepest secrets on your first date. You need to take it slow and see how she responds to something honest and vulnerable (i.e. less than perfect) that you share about yourself. If she doesn’t like you being honest, or she cannot really empathize with you, that’s a big red flag. But if she can, and she is also sharing about herself, and there’s a mutual understanding (rather than criticism, mocking, feeling superior or inferior to the other…) – that’s a very good sign.
Hmm I think that’s super helpful. Thanks! This would be really helpful for me on how much should I open up in relationships
You’ve already had several failed relationships, so you know your patterns. Perhaps you’re also aware of what contributed to the breakup, and even what is your responsibility in it? If you know your patterns and your fears, you could talk about it in therapy and try to work on it, rather than take those same patterns and fears into a new relationship.
I’ve just watched a video by Henry Cloud, where he said: “What’s going to be new and different this time other than you wanting it to be new and different?” I think it can be applied it to relationships too: If you haven’t worked on those fears, or false beliefs or whatever – what is going to be different in your next relationship, other than you wanting it to be different? You know what I mean?
Yes I got your point. I have to work on this first. And I believe for my pattern there was mainly fear of commitment involved as well. But what I’m saying is that if it’s my fear of commitment then I’m not even looking for a commitment. I’m not that much old to look for a commitment either. Another thing is that there are probably woman like me who’s also have fear of commitment as well.. Then instead of just focusing on fear (Which I have to I know, and it does take time) why not just go with the flow and learn that way?
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
How are you feeling today?
Have you already visited the doctor?
I like the quote, but it’s apparently not something that Buddha said, but Charlie Chaplin. I hope it’s still true
Lol I think I read it in some article like years ago since then I was like it’s Buddha who said this but thanks for clarifying
kind general seems like a perfect candidate for a positive father figure
Yup Definitely. I love the way he mentors his nephew (Prince Zuko), My fav scene is when Uncle Iroh says to his nephew “IT’S TIME FOR YOU TO LOOK INWARD AND START ASKING YOURSELF THE BIG QUESTION: WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT DO YOU WANT?” because his Nephew wanted a validation and respect from his father (Fire Lord) so he thought The mission his father gave it’s his destiny, and he was working so hard towards it. So that’s why Uncle Iroh also tells him “THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A LIFE OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY.”
as long as you don’t put yourself in a high-risk situations, like climbing high mountains in winter, or climbing frozen waterfalls (an acquaintance of mine is doing just that!).
I think little risk taking is good for that adrenaline to go on sometimes. Just to makes me feel more alive. Climbing frozen waterfalls?? Well that does sound tricky. Have you tried anything like that before?
I wonder how safe and comfortable you felt in your previous relationships? I mean, did you feel you can be yourself completely or you felt you needed to pretend in some way?
I wouldn’t say 100% safe. Because I did had trust issues and I wouldn’t just open up to anyone. So it was like being comfortable as the time goes. But in my first relationship I did feel like I had to pretend the strong and understanding type in every way possible.
But being totally yourself in the starting is even possible? You know what I mean? It’s just not easy to describe
You talked about the pattern that you’ve noticed in yourself: that at first you might like her “a lot”, write poems etc, and then if she reciprocates, you get cold feet, i.e. you start feeling trapped. So if this is your pattern, you might end up moving on even if you really like the girl in the beginning. What I am trying to say that if you don’t work on your fear of intimacy, you might be repeating the same pattern again and again…
Right I know I have to work on my fear of intimacy.. maybe that’s why I don’t feel so deep in relationships? But like what could be other options available for me? I mean for experimentation like without being with someone how can I work on fear of intimacy? And it’s not like I’m already planning to find a life-partner. You can take this as like fear of commitment too 😆
Hm.. if I understood your pattern well, you get attached very quickly (writing poems etc), but then you get afraid of your attachment (and I guess your strong feelings for the girl), and you start feeling trapped. You don’t want to feel so dependent and needy, and so you start cooling down and distancing yourself? At least that’s how I understood you so far.
Ohh I haven’t thought of it this way… But it could be..
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
thank you for your kind words and optimism. I agree that hope is the most important, and it’s also true that due to some bad luck (health-wise) in the past 3 years, I am starting to be less optimistic, and it’s a problem. But I am trying to be hopeful and really believe that things will turn out for the best now…
I can understand when we don’t see good in particular thing for a while we tend to lose hope. I’ve been through that. Times like this I’d like to remember myself Buddha’s quote – Nothing is permanent in this world, not even our troubles. And another thing you should remind yourself that you’re already taking care of your body in best way possible.
I am glad I could help you in that process – of becoming more of who you really are.
Well as they say – We don’t meet anyone by an accident
Good! I don’t know this character, but a well-meaning, kind uncle is definitely a good father figure
Haha even if you don’t know the character you just described him well. You can also search Uncle Iroh philosophy. I think you’d like it
I meant consequences of getting punished by your parents, or simply your parents worrying sick?
My mom never gets angry at me. As for my father at that time I knew even little thing could make him angry. So I was like I’ll face him or just hear his few words…
It’s good you weren’t a fearful child and you had faith that you’d be saved, no matter what. But as I said, it’s better not to provoke destiny by doing reckless things… How is it now? Are you a fan of extreme sports or not so much?
Thankfully I’m not into extreme sports and I’m not being reckless like my teenage years. But I love wandering in nature and hiking. And for hiking sometimes I do push my body limits quite a lot. But even that with being mindful like when I’m 99% sure that my body is able to take this.
Glad you liked it. I think the expansive and the contracting force can also be called yin and yang, i.e. the feminine and the masculine principle. Too much masculine leads to too much expansion and acquisition, which are unsustainable. Too much feminine leads to stagnation, paralysis, decay…
I’ve did some research and I’m not surprised even that for balancing they’re saying mindfulness comes first, after that body health and being in nature. Which all 3 I’m doing every day. But I know there’s more than that so
Oh so you practically adopted her? That’s nice!
There’s just something different about pet love. I already feel like I love her more than any of my previous girlfriends 😂
I knew you were considering it, but didn’t know you have actually broken up with your LD girlfriend in the meanwhile.
I’ve broken up just after a week I wrote.
You mean you want to start online dating again? Perhaps limit it to girls from your area, so you can actually meet in person too. But as we’ve talked about it before, I guess there is also a fear of intimacy there, so a part of you doesn’t really want to get too close, including being in physical vicinity either?
Before starting dating, I’d work on this fear of intimacy, best in therapy. Because if you don’t, you might bump into the same problems again…
Online and offline both. Of course, around my area. But in February or March I’m moving to another city so I’ll plan it like that.
You’re right but again I’ll be taking this as experimentations and see how my emotions are reacting to all of this and then proceed if I like her “a lot.” Otherwise just move on. In relationships I think I learned how to not get attached quickly and move on before it’s too late. Thanks to equanimity.SereneWolf
ParticipantHello Tee,
I’m having some health issues that have surfaced only recently, in the last couple of weeks or so, and which do worry me. I am looking for treatment options and hoping for the best. Please don’t ask me about the details, I don’t feel like sharing too much about it at this point. But thank you for inquiring about my well-being, I do appreciate it.
Oh I’m sorry to hear that. And it’s okay if you’re not comfortable about the details. Due to my reckless behaviour sometimes, I do have good experience about hospitals and treatments and one thing I strongly believe in is HOPE. And there’s always a way. So I hope you’ll be alright.
I am glad you found some peace of mind in that Henry Cloud’s video. Yes, you’re already doing a lot – realizing your issues, asking for help (both here and in therapy), and making concrete steps, practicing new things, slowly but surely changing your approach.
Yes I’m glad for that. I honestly believe things are working out for me and I can feel the change. Before I was holding tight on beliefs that I had which didn’t let me make progress even though I wanted to. But since I realized that having work on something doesn’t mean you’re not good enough, Not all are perfect and we all have to work on ourselves, improving. To be more Being You. So I highly appreciate you and all the people who helped and helping me for being ME.
What you need is to strengthen the compassionate, good parent part, who will tell the drill sergeant to back off. Who will protect you from his demands, his cruelty and his lack of empathy. You are already developing this compassionate part, and your goal is to strengthen it further.
So each time when you hear the voice telling you “this isn’t enough, this is so far from where you need to be, you need to speed things up, you’re such a disappointment…” – you need to tell him to BACK OFF. Like a good parent would protect his child from a bully, you need to protect yourself from this bully in your head. You need to stop listening to him.
If the army analogy resonates with you, you can even imagine that this empathic guy, who will put the drill sergeant in his place, is someone higher in rank (a colonel, lieutenant or general – if I understood the military ranks correctly). So a colonel might tell the drill sergeant to back off and leave you alone. Or, if you don’t like the military analogy, you can come up with another person you admire, who is a kind, warm and empathic father figure.
Thanks for the really good example and analogy. You’re right I think that would help a lot for strengthen my compassion. I might have an idea for this. I watch a lot of anime so I’ll try to find a good guiding figure which I admire. (I’m thinking about Uncle Iroh from Avatar but I’ll research more)
But I wonder if you knew that they would be worried and went to explore anyway, or you thought there wouldn’t be any consequences? Or your curiosity was stronger and you couldn’t stop yourself, even if you knew your parents would be worried?
Hmm As far as I remember I think my curiosity was stronger. And for consequences I thought what can happen? I kind of had that confidence that I wouldn’t die and I’ll be saved no matter what
some spiritual teachings it’s called the expansive principle, which is necessary for growth. The problem is if we take it to the extreme by e.g. doing reckless things, which might endanger our life and our health. Or if we work ourselves to death and never rest, all in the name of “expansion”, growth and excellence.
You see what I mean? Too much expansion can be bad… unless we balance it with self-care, nurturance, rest, tending to what we have, rather than thinking of new acquisitions all the time. This other principle is called the contracting principle, and it’s a necessary force in the universe, otherwise things would blow apart. We are in harmony when both principles are in harmony within us, neither of them overly dominating. Alright, maybe this is too much philosophy, but I am mentioning it anyway, in case you find it helpful…
That’s really interesting and indeed a good balance example. I actually love philosophy so don’t worry haha.. I’ll research for those terms in details because I do frequently think about the new acquisitions otherwise, I feel like I’m behind and not learning or doing enough
That’s sweet! Just give her (or leave her) some food, she’ll sure come again!
She’s mostly spending her time at my place anyways haha. Currently she’s sleeping on my lap.
Were you talking to her while you were in a LDR with another girl?
No.
You’ve mentioned some problems in your current LDR – are you still with that girl?
No, I think you misunderstood. I also limited that relationship only for friendship. Because after giving a thought I want a more physical relationship not where I have to spend much time on texting but doing activities together. But Nowadays I’m just more focused with my career too. But I’m thinking about starting dating. I think I need that otherwise I’d be just too introvert around woman face to face. And another thing is that LDR or In-Person relationships I’ve never proposed any woman so…
SereneWolf
ParticipantAlso, how you can make text color blue here?
SereneWolf
ParticipantHi Tee,
How are you?So today in my YouTube dashboard One of the Henry Cloud’s video showed up and It really lightened me up. “These Stages Will Help You Change Emotionally Unhealthy Patterns” in this video I’ve realize one of the things about my impatience.
In that he talks about that Realizing that you need to work on your emotional health and you’re already within the supportive group (Thanks to you as well) Which makes You already way down the road. It’s a progress and he gives an example about an oak tree. Like we can’t directly grow a tree. So we have to surrender to the progress first. Planting the seed, taking care and gardening.etc
Which helps for quickly and “NOW” pressure.where he said that unless we don’t change anything in our routine, what difference will a flip of the calendar make?
So True and since we’re habitual creatures it’s not easy to change habits without good enough reason
When is it the hardest for you to be compassionate with yourself? Maybe if you can give me an example?
Hmm I’m not sure about this. And To be honest I don’t have an actual idea how to be really compassionate with myself because most of the time I put other’s need first, Even though I know that this isn’t good for me. Also sometimes I need answers to questions going on my head right away even though it’s a complex questions. Which makes me overthinking and criticizing myself even more.
Remember that you told me about making mistakes? so yeah it’s also there as well
But the some of the things does helping me that I’m trying
Like treating myself like I’m my own best friendBeing Mindful
And I’m not in need of validation from othersSo if I understood you well, you are action-oriented and strive to implement new things ASAP, without too much thinking about it and analyzing it in advance, because if you do, you’ll end up overthinking and it will drain your energy. Is this what you’re saying? So you just plunge into it right away, and see what happens?
I do analyze it like a quick analysis and implement it
I want to learn how to be a great leader by the end of the month, and I need to introduce the employee’s feedback box and all these other novelties, because that should help me become a great leader in 30 days” – well that would be putting a lot of pressure on yourself. I don’t know what your attitude is, but perhaps it’s something similar to the latter?
Yes I know that well that being a great leader takes time. But even though in few months I feel like I worked a lot on my soft skills I’m still not proud of myself and still wanting more and more… You know what I mean?
You’re kind of curious and relaxed about the outcome.
This is what I’m trying for yet still sometimes even though I’m sure that it’s not a big deal still I get worried little things for no reason
And too afraid indeed, because you weren’t trying to do anything dangerous or reckless,
Okay so about that, I was doing some things in my childhood that my parents considered reckless. Eg. Skipping my primary school classes sometimes to see lion in the green fields of my village. Or just foxes or deer. But with group of people obviously not all alone. Because It was really exciting for me. I’ve literally seen how lioness gave birth to a lion cub and I still remember that moment vividly.
Another time I was crazy enough to walk down on the unknown road for 12kms just because I wanted to find out where it goes because there wasn’t any sign and I asked one man there what’s there and he laughed and told me why you don’t find out? because I don’ know, So I walked but luckily at the evening time another man from my village was there and he got me back home safely.My father was furious, and my mom was crying. = more restrictions for me
I was around 8-9 years old that time.
I can relate because my mother refused to buy me a bike, because she was afraid I’d get overrun by a car… And so I’ve never learned how to ride a bike in my childhood, and it got ever more difficult as I got older. I did try it as an adult but never got good at bike riding… because of my mother’s fears.
Oh same thing happened to me for motorcycle. I was last of my siblings to learn a motorcycle because my father was like you can’t learn as your little brother did. My little brother also learned car driving and I’m still not motivated enough to learn driving a car.
But yeah one thing I excel is bicycling. I love it. It gives me more fun vibes. I still listen to classic songs wearing earphones and go for a bicycle ride instead of evening walk sometimes. So if you want you can try to learn again
My mother was certainly like that, and I myself was quite an anxious child too, so I stayed by my mother’s side rather than venturing out to explore the world…
And what about now? Now you have curiosity to explore or you’re already tired?
Luckily, you were a different type. You didn’t allow yourself to get intimidated by them. You ventured out on your own, and dared to try many new things.
Haha yeah one thing I’m proud of!
I wonder if the push to always try new things and never give yourself a break is in part related to your fear of being “subdued” and made dependent/controlled by your parents? A subconscious fear that if you don’t keep moving, they’ll catch up with you and “restrain” you and you’ll lose your freedom?
Hmm I’m not actually worried about losing my freedom because I’m really independent now and my parents knows well about my freedom mindset. But maybe I still have to look deeper about what I’m grateful for and actually be happy about it. Instead of running for one goal to another.
Also another things I want to tell you
One little kitten started to come to my place frequently so she’s kind of my pet now. Even though I don’t know much about taking care of cats I’m loving this 😀
Another thing, So There’s this girl, few months ago and she wanted to be in relationship with me and I told her no and after that we were just talking sometimes. Like two times a week or even less. Nothing Romantic.
But since she told me she found a boyfriend I don’t know why I feel confused. I mean I know well why I told her no because I wasn’t ready for a relationship. I don’t know that why is it happening like it’s the intimacy that I’m craving or it’s just sexual frustration or something else?SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
Thanks for your wishesDo you make new year resolutions every year?
if your parents judge you, you won’t judge yourself. In other words, to have compassion for yourself, even if your parents don’t.
Yes, that is what I’m trying to do but it’s no easy thing to be honest
Right.. so your inner critic took over the judgemental attitude of your parents and is pushing you to perform faster, better…. An image comes to mind of you being like a jockey, pushing and hitting your horse to run faster and faster… and being angry at him if he cannot run so fast.
Yes kind of like that. You understood the situation so well
Which means you’re not compassionate with yourself when it comes to learning new skills and your job performance in general.
Remember when I told you that I believe in action-oriented things? So It’s because of this, otherwise I just dwell in overthinking about outcomes, and it takes lot of time and drain my energy as well. Although it still happens sometimes
Maybe you wanted to move away from your parents’ relentless judgment…
Maybe yes.. That time first thing I wanted was Freedom which I have now and I’m really appreciating it. And If I didn’t moved out I don’t think I’d be developed this much as per mindset.
Because my parents are overprotective. For example I started swimming classes and after a week I’ve told them but at village in my teenage years they be like don’t go inside deep water and do this and that and me and my siblings weren’t allowed to go swimming without my cousin who’s an expert swimmer, but I didn’t learned swimming like that. Even when I started swimming lessons, they asked hundreds of questions. If I’m getting watery eyes, Water is too cold and blah blah.. But finally I’ve learned swimming because My parents weren’t around me to stop.
Just this weekend my uncle and his family came to visit and stayed for 2 days. With his wife and a little boy and I noticed the same thing. No freedom. Kite festival is around the corner but my uncle and aunt is too much concerned about the little hand cuts (Only if he’s too much careless) So they didn’t allow him to play with kites. I feel for that kid.
So the thing that I noticed is that first of all even parents are not believing in their kids that they can handle themselves and making them feel more dependent or not enough, which is kind of true reality for lot of families here nowadays.
But the thing is that by that time your inner critic had already soaked in their judgments, and so you’ve become your own worst critic. Even if your parents are (or seem) much milder nowadays, it is you who is pushing yourself hard…
Yes I agree with this. That’s why I’m trying to be mindful about my inner voice now even though nowadays it’s keep telling what’s next? what are you doing?
SereneWolf
ParticipantHi Tee!
Sending the warmest wishes for a wonderful new year with good luck and great adventures! Have a sparkling Happy New Year 2023! 🤗🌟🙏an acquaintance of mine has hypothyroidism because his thyroid is physically too small. He doesn’t have Hashimo (i.e. the structure of the gland is fine), but it is simply too small to produce enough hormone. And so he needs to take supplementation.
Right I got what you mean. I’ve talked to my doctor he told me that for Hashimoto or Hypothyroidism both have the same hormone supplements. And as per my levels he said I have Hypothyroidism. But to be reassured I can take the ultrasound test so I’ll take the test later on.
perhaps you fear they would judge you again?
I guess but I don’t want this fear because it’s limiting fear
But even if they aren’t judgmental anymore, it is your inner critic that is judging you for not being good enough, for not meeting your own expectations as quickly as possible.
This is so true because of my impatience
However, I think that a part of your motivation comes from the feeling of not being good enough, i.e. the inner critical voice is pushing you to master all these skills as soon as possible. Which is making you feel overwhelmed and lagging behind.
Again right but I talked about this with a friend and she told me that striving to be better ain’t wrong just being self-compassionate along is what should I do…
it seems to me that a part of your motivation for learning stems from not wanting to disappoint your parents. Would you say that’s true?
Hmm for this I’d say that I’m not sure. But could be the root cause because Since teenage Most of the time my expectations are higher from myself first.
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
I’m glad to hear that
So it’s hypothyroidism… could be autoimmune disease too (Hashimoto syndrome). That’s why I’d check it on the ultrasound as well, just to be sure.
Hmm I think you’re right; I’ve looked it up and symptoms are quite similar. And since it could be gene based and more likely to happen to women, I’ll suggest my mom for this test too!
It gets “engraved” into our brain…
Yes so I’m trying to erase that engraved thing. I literally had a dream like a week ago before my parents planning to visit, and I was anxious what’s going to happen. But thankfully everything went well.
So you feel you don’t need their approval and validation any more, but you do fear you’d disappoint them?
Yes. Like even for little things sometimes
That’s a good way to soothe yourself. You’re having lots of compassion for yourself. And you’re telling yourself that everything will be fine, which is a good way to reassure yourself. So you’re doing a great job parenting your inner child!
Yes I think I’ve been hard on myself for quite a while so I’m trying to take the mini steps towards self-compassion
Yes, I need to try it and see what works and what doesn’t… for me.
For sure and taking forward steps towards that will definitely give you more confidence to do it even more
Another thing, how you’re noting things down? For Learning in general. I’m thinking about creating the new framework for learning for kind of the soft skills and things I have to work on…
So I needed your opinion because I do feel overwhelmed sometimesSereneWolf
ParticipantHi Tee! Merry Christmas! 🎄🤗
How are you doing?
My Parents came to visit me so I was busy with that.
Although if your TSH is within limits, I guess the chance of autoimmune disease is lower too.
Well my TSH levels aren’t within limits 6.67 so (Ref Range – 0.4 and 4.5) (mU/L) That’s why I started the treatment
yes I guess it’s beneficial to have a university degree if you’re a boss in a tech company. And having an MBA is an additional big plus!
Yes that’s what I think
You said that your inner child is trying to get your parents’ approval (Yes exactly and that’s what my inner child is trying as well.).
Okay so I spent some time with my parents and I can safely say they’re aren’t like before. I used to think they just prefer to judge me all the time. But I think it’s because of the past patterns I’m thinking like that and I need their approval and I don’t want to disappoint them.
But another thing is that now I don’t crave any validation from them. Which I think little better
But I do feel like fear of disappointment is still there
Can you recognize when what happens? And do you have a way to soothe yourself (your inner child), tell him he is good enough etc?
Nowadays I’m feeling emotional and kind of anxious as well (I can’t think of a reason why) So I’m just telling myself to take a long breath and look how far you’ve come and be proud of that and take little steps from there…Everything will be alright
and instead, communicating via email. Cool! And so he’s not too pushy with you in emails?
No. His skills are more you can say face to face. And In email he’s not able to put up with well pointed like me.
You’ll see that the real project is the best teacher. … In a long run, one mediocre project is worth a few books and online courses. Learn from your own mistakes.”
Yes, I totally agree! Because all person’s situations are scenarios are different and that’s why trying different things and implementation that’s what also gives you the confidence for that work you’re doing or the goal you’re going towards
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
I went to hospital for thyroid report. Here they only check with blood samples, and I’ll go back at Friday for results and probably start treatment.
Does this happen at work? Or in your private life?
I’d say more in private life but it’s lot better than before
Cool! Yes, a lot of management position require MBA, so I guess you’ll have even greater chances, i.e. a wider range of opportunities, with an MBA degree.
Yes definitely. And the thing is that I think after getting an MBA degree I’d be even more confident because right now without bachelor’s or master’s I’m on Manager position. So it does feel inadequate to other people. Because there are some people who finished their Masters and working under me so…
And it’s the inner child that would do anything to get his parents’ love and approval.
Yes exactly and that’s what my inner child is trying as well.
But once we re-parent our inner child, this influence lessens and we’re much less affected by our parents’ expectations…
I started taking care of my inner child… with my childhood photo also I talk to my inner child and try to compassionate with him
How is it with others? Is there a specific person that is hard to work with, and you’re struggling to say No to him, or assert yourself?
Yes the marketing manager. He’s super persuasive. Definitely like a wall street sells guys. With sweet talkin’ he just makes you say Yes… But what I do now is that I don’t schedule lot of meeting with him. Instead, just make him deal with my assistant and then later I answer him via email. In email writings he can’t win against me 😂
You do have some power as manager… so yes, you can make a positive impact. So just keep doing the great work that you’ve started!
For sure, “With great power comes great responsibility” 😀
I got too worried about health, and it just paralyzed me. So now I need to start again, get active again….
Hmm I see nowadays social media algorithms are very strict. So you have to be consistent with your content otherwise algorithms just put you way out from the platform.
Try to make a content calendar and you can even automate the timings and posts as well. There are free tools for that as well
Even in social media being consistent is the key
don’t over research! Because I do tend to study everything in advance, taking way too much time on that, while procrastinating to take action.
Yes So before I was like that too. But it’s also sign of perfectionism and fear of failure. But I’m the person who needs to the progress without that I get demotivated. So that’s why starting is the main important thing for me.
I’m attaching two article links here so let me know what you think
You Want Progress In Life? Stop Learning… Start Implementing | by Kosio Angelov | Medium
Start, Then Learn. Not the other way around. | by Valerie | The Shortform | Medium
SereneWolf
ParticipantDear Tee,
Yes It’s always a good idea to wear the glasses in front of screens. I prefer Custom made frames with Crizal Lenses (It comes specially with eye protection from screen)If she’s a licensed psychotherapist, that’s fine. I am a little skeptical about prana healers, but if they have a degree in psychology or counseling, energy work can be a nice addition. Makes their work more holistic…
Yes She’s licensed psychotherapist and practicing this for more than 5 years
I am not a psychologist or a a counselor, but I do have some basic knowledge in psychology, and I’ve been into personal development for almost 20 years, so I’ve learned quite a bit…
That’s really impressive and working on improving yourself consider as a self-love right?
Hmmm… root chakra is related to our basic sense of security and groundedness in the physical plane. Feeling good in our body, not spacing out, being present in the here-and-now, that kind of stuff. It’s not so much related to our self-esteem. Rather, the 3rd chakra is (the solar plexus). So it’s a bit strange that she suggested to work on the root chakra… Maybe next time you can ask her?
Yes but she said she’ll take things from the ground up. And first chakra to work on is root chakra so
What kind of surrendering did she suggest?
I mean I said for my controlling behaviour and that I’m being hard on myself so…
So she suggested to surrender to myself to whatever I believe in.. God or Naturewhen you say a certain affirmation (e.g. “I am good enough”, or “I am competent enough”), do you believe it, or not really?
That’s hard to say because I do feel something but not much.
“Lam is also used to cleanse the muladhara chakra, in order to establish or maintain a sense of being grounded and connected to the earth. …
Yes but because of the humming it’s also good for my thyroid gland. I guess tomorrow I’ll go for thyroid test and see for my hypothyroidism results. It seems like lot of the health problems connected to thyroid gland. That also includes hairfall. Giving me even more anxiety! So tomorrow I’m going to the hospital for a thyroid test
I remember you said you chose a wrong field to study, and then dropped out of college, right? And now you’re studying online to get a degree?
Yes It’s my last semester. After that I want to apply for a MBA because I found out that lot of management positions does require MBA so..
Yes, I too thought it was super helpful to see the parents as guardians and managers – while we were children, but not beyond.
I’ve just watched that video and two another about parents.
I agree with him and also that dependency is not there so why let control? And the need for approvalA company should have a different culture, where you can also question those orders and give feedback…
Yes totally agree
which means that your boss is a reasonable person, not a bully. That’s so important to have a normal boss!
I have to work with cross functional teams. So there are different managers for different teams but yeah this one is a good fella.
You’re welcome! Let me know how it went…
It was really good even though I’m still not that much good at presenting and storytelling. But they listened carefully. I’ve also talked about anonymous feedback and PR manager said they’ll start working on this documentations… So I hope to see what good changes it brings 😀
Yeah, I know from talking to people close to me how horrible it is when the boss isn’t interested in the employees’ feedback, and how they are expected to just follow the orders and stay silent. And I think I’ve read somewhere that there are such feedback boxes in good companies, and I really liked the idea…
Even though I don’t have much power in my hands rn but I do feel like there is lot things I can do where I can make a good impact.
No, I am not a leader. Rather, I’m trying to be self-employed, but am very slow in taking action – quite the opposite of you So I am learning something from you too – how to take action and not be afraid of it. So thank you, too!
So it’s your experience and wisdom. I’ve done freelancing for like a year and what feedback I got is not for my performance but for my attitude first. So yeah being positive and friendly does help. I don’t care if I really know the person or not. But I prefer to be friendly instead of cold and distant. Because I think people kind of catch up these vibes. Like why am I really interested in working with them.. So I have to see their positive points which would make me feel confident talking to them as well.
I think first what you can do is create good LinkedIn connections (or from other social media depends on the profession) and build a community that like your work, trusts you and admire you. This is like a first and most important thing you should do if you’re not doing that. Like putting relevant posts there, or maybe present what kind of problem you’re trying to solve. Put sample work etc
The more people would feel connected the easier it will be for you.And I’m glad, Taking action is firm on what you want and taking small steps towards that. I just have this belief like If I’m doing this I’ll put my 100% which won’t make you feel regret later like you know you gave your all. Another thing I do is think what’s the worst that can happen? You’d still be alive and you can try in different way until it works.
Another thing don’t over research. try to start experimenting for what works instead of just gathering the information
Also talk to the people who are already doing this for years. You’d get more insights from them as well
SereneWolf
ParticipantHey Tee,
How are you doing?
Guess who had their first therapy season recently? That’s right, Me!
She’s a Psychotherapist + Prana Healer + Chakra Balance Helper
And she did kind of talked and suggested things like you did (Are you in psychology field too?)
And I told her for the things I’m working on, She said I’m on the right direction
I talked about the childhood trauma and feeling not good enough etc.
She said for that I’ll have to work on my root chakra.
Also work on surrendering
And gave me homework
List of things I really love about myself
Affirmations in front of mirror – I feel awkward doing that
Spend time with myself and ask Who am I as a person? – Because when she asked I said I said I don’t know someone who’s just figuring out life
LAM chanting – It’s like hummin sound while meditating. Because I also told her that I have mild hypothyroidism so because it’s mild I was ignoring this for years but apparently it does have mental effects like forgetfulness, fatigue, mental slowness, inattention, and emotional lability (I Googled after she suggested so) which I do experience more or less so I’ll have to do medical check-up for hypothyroidism as well
Another therapy season will be in 4 weeks (Long I know)
it’s interesting how me mentioning “nasty or demanding people” made you mention your parents. That’s the truth about them, or at least it was in the past, wasn’t it?
In the past, Yes
Though you did say a while ago that they still sometimes compare you with other young people in your place of origin, but that they are mostly pleased with the line of work you’re in, right?
Yes they’re happy with it. and in this case they didn’t compared or did what other parents (I mean my relatives) did. So my cousin wanted to pursue music or agriculture but his father didn’t let him do it so he’s studying dentistry now.. I do feel for him whenever we talk.. But yet still I took a wrong decision for my education and after years I get it right
One interesting thing he mentions at the end is a Bible verse that goes something like “when we were children, we were under guardians and managers”. Those “guardians and managers” were our parents. But that’s only while we were children. As adults, our parents don’t have (or shouldn’t have) the role of our guardians and managers – we as adults are responsible for managing our lives. So it’s clear that the role of parents changes, and it’s only natural that it should change, once we grow up.
That’s really insightful! thanks for sharing this and I’ll watch the video
Definitely… but what does it mean for you to be worthy of respect? Does it mean to say Yes to everything requested of you, indiscriminately? And then maybe fail to deliver? To me, I prefer integrity. For example, if the persons says they’ll do something, they’ll do it. But they don’t just agree to anything – they estimate what and how much they can deliver, and then they do it, as promised. You can count on those people. And another aspect of integrity is when the person has empathy for their subordinates – when they take their team into account. They don’t overpromise because they know it will hurt their team.
So to me, a person worthy of respect in a corporate setting would be someone who is 1) reliable and trust-worthy (and therefore, has their supervisor’s trust), and also 2) empathic and takes into consideration the well-being of his team (and therefore is respected and cherished by their team). So they are respected in both directions – both by those above them and by those beneath them on the ladder…. I don’t know, at least this is how I imagine a perfect boss would be
Hmm I think you’re right about this. In my head I was like Saying Yes and following orders are what I should do. But as a leader that’s not right but from this I found that I need to work on my “Speak Up”- related to childhood trauma lol
Because most of the time I prefer to obey and say yes to the elder, And at work as right now the thing is that I’m the youngest manager here (lot of the people who work under me are also older than me) so.. I think this is another thing I have to work on… so It’s all just making sense nowIt’s always good to start small and practice on small things, of no big relevance. How did your boss (or the person you said No to) take it?
Yes I think I do need to grow my courage part and be more experimentative.
And he said it’s okay and didn’t ague about it. So I guess I was just overthinking and just afraid of saying NO or Speak Up
Alright if there’s no obligation. You can explain that you would like to create as much as possible of a positive, encouraging atmosphere for everyone on the team, specially for the new members. Maybe you can encourage the older members to be helpful to the novices, and you can also tell the novices that they can always talk to you if they have a problem with something – that you are there for them.
Thanks this will help me for scripting and presenting to them in a better way
As for promoting vulnerability, I am thinking it wouldn’t be a bad idea to enable your team members to give honest feedback (if you’re not already doing it) and voice their concerns, if they have any. I am not sure what is the company’s policy on that, but giving people the opportunity for feedback is super important. If they feel safe enough, they can speak up at a meeting, or if not, you can set up a box where they can throw in anonymous suggestions.
Wow that’s an excellent Idea! no matter what happens, I’ll try to implement this.
With anonymous feedback others would feel more safer and not feel like attacked
Yes, but it’s also good you’re already applying some of the concepts in practice, at your work place. I admire you for your expediency and initiative.
Yes but you helped me unfolding and we’re still unfolding things so I’m kind of proud of myself that I did took actionable steps but also big thanks to you. I really appreciate your support. Not to mention you’re literally teaching me how to be a better leader
(So which arise a question Are you also a leader? – only answer if you’re comfortable sharing otherwise it’s okay)That’s probably the part of you who feels not good enough, worrying if you have achieved enough… Well for him, you’ll never be good enough… but I can tell you, as a non-biased bystander, that just in these past few months you’ve achieved many things, first in your self-awareness and willingness to challenge yourself and try new things… I mean, you’re scoring very high in learning soft skills. So give yourself some credit, give yourself a pat on the back – you’re doing great, just by this little that I am seeing!
Thanks again for showing me the things that I wasn’t able to see.
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