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Dear thosedays,
This is very true. I am planning to have a self assessment with a experienced clinical psychologist to dive into my inner child and see what is missing.
That’s a very good decision! Digging deeper into your childhood issues, unmet needs etc… will definitely help you move forward!
You seem to have a very good in dept level of understanding one’s cognition. We can have some private conversation if you dont mind, perhaps shed some light on my situation.
Thank you, thosedays, but there is no possibility to send private messages on this forum… I understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing more in this space. If you still change your mind, I am here 🙂
I can’t really tell but i believe she will be supportive.
Great! Sounds very promising that your girlfriend is supportive and open to your self-exploration. If she’s not afraid to see you change and be more true to yourself – I think it’s a very good sign for the prospect of your relationship too.
TeeParticipantDear thesedays,
Deep down, there is always this one nagging inner voice that keeps pushing me to make the decision. The amount of guilt is affecting my mental state.
You feel guilty for not being honest with her, for stringing her along while you don’t really love her the way she loves you?
I’ve been foreseeing if I happen to lose her, how devastated I will be. And I have a mixed feeling about it, somehow I feel is like more to attachment than love.
If you feel like it’s more of an attachment, it probably means that you feel she is meeting some of your needs, but there is still something missing… Would you like to answer – what do you feel is missing?
If you’re in my shoes, how do you move forward?
I cannot really tell you, at least not yet, because I know very little about your situation. Maybe we can explore things here a bit more, or you can go to counseling, so you could understand yourself better.
But what I see is that guilt is present, and self-hatred is present (I really hate myself). Also, it seems that you don’t really know yourself that well (I don’t understand myself nor who to love.) In order to understand yourself better, you would need to know what your needs are, what your values are, your goals and dreams…
The problem is, if you have been living a life of conforming to other people’s expectations, and feeling unworthy and unlovable the way you are…. then you’d need to learn how to love and value yourself first. This would be task No1: to heal those core wounds.
I don’t know how open your current girlfriend is to you digging deeper into yourself? To going on a self-discovery quest, so to speak? Would she support you in that, or she wouldn’t understand?
TeeParticipantDear thesedays,
it seems you feel that you should make your decision now, immediately, whether to break up with her, or stay:
For those years of trying, I know the time has come. … I wanna be firm on my position right now and decide which path I should go.
What causes that urgency? Is she expecting you to commit? Or your environment is (e.g. family’s expectations to get married, things like that)?
I would like to ask (you don’t need to answer if you don’t feel comfortable talking about it): what do you feel is missing from your current relationship? You said your relationship is “peaceful”. But there is something missing… Do you know what it is?
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
I want to add something to my last post, because I am sensing not just insincerity from that colleague, but also that she doesn’t really care about you. So I am expanding this sentence from my previous post:
If she promised to help you, or was encouraging you to approach him, and then a few days later didn’t invite you to go to drinks with the rest of the group – that’s insincere AND shows that she doesn’t care about you.
When they talk about him and his birthday party while you can hear them – that’s very inconsiderate too. (btw does this happen when they are drunk or sober?) Pretending they are on your side, rooting for you to get together with him, and then disregarding your feelings just a short while later!
No wonder you feel that “it’s not just that people hurt me but that nobody seem to care that they hurt me.”
These particular girls don’t seem to care about you and they don’t seem to care if they hurt you. And because of that, I think you should stop hanging around with them and confiding in them.
I struggle a lot with trust.
I think you shouldn’t trust these girls!
However, it doesn’t mean that EVERYONE is like that – uncaring, selfish, disregards your feelings. There are people who do care and are true friends, but maybe you still haven’t met them.
In your childhood, you concluded that your parents don’t care about you, because of their failure to protect you. You also concluded that you’re not important, that you’re less worthy than others.
These became your core false beliefs: “I am not important”, “Nobody cares about me”, “I am unworthy”.
And now, you seem to be playing out this same narrative with these co-workers of yours. You are hoping that they’d care about you, but they don’t. They don’t care too much when they’re sober either, but they care even less when they’re drunk. And each time you interact with them, your childhood wound gets reopened. You feel again and again how worthless you are, and how nobody cares about you. Your false core belief is reaffirmed each time you interact with them and expect something from them.
Once you heal this childhood wound, you’ll be able to distance yourself from them and not expect anything from them. You’ll be able to find another company, in which you’ll feel more cared for and respected.
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
Yes they were all we have your back, we will help you out!
Have you actually asked them if they have spoken to him about you, and what did he say?
You said one of your work colleagues, who is currently working in another country till December, had been putting pressure on your before the yoga date. What kind of pressure was she putting? Was she encouraging you to talk to him? Did she promise she’d talk to him, but she never did?
A couple of weeks ago, that same girl invited everyone to join her for drinks after work, but she didn’t invite you. And you felt excluded and rejected:
one of the girls (the one adding pressure on me before the date) asking people to join her after work for drinks (last friday and today) but didn’t included me. Do now i feel both heartbroken and like i am slowly being cut off for some reason.
Another problem is that when your female colleagues get drunk, they “start touching him and dancing around him, and talking about him and his birthday party in a place where I can hear them when they know how I feel“.
I am sensing some insincerity on their part, specially from the colleague who is now in another country. If she promised to help you, or was encouraging you to approach him, and then a few days later didn’t invite you to go to drinks with the rest of the group – that’s insincere.
Another problem is their partying habits: it seems these girls regularly get drunk, perhaps not to the point of oblivion, but definitely to the point of not having too many inhibitions. And then they do and say things they wouldn’t when they are sober. You being there in their vicinity only hurts you.
I think you should rethink hanging out with these people (or confiding in them either). First, because they might be insincere. And second, because they make a mess of themselves when they drink, and you don’t really need to witness that…
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
it’s not just that people hurt me but that nobody seem to care that they hurt me.
I remember you talking about your work colleagues, who promised to fix you up with your love interest, but then feeling very cozy around him after they get drunk. Like, when they get drunk, they start being “too friendly” with him, and you feel jealous. You feel like they’ve betrayed you… Do I remember this right?
TeeParticipantDear thosedays,
you’re very welcome.
Should I give up searching and remains where I am now?
Well, I think you should first heal the emotional wounds that caused you “severe heartbreak” and “emotional breakdown” after your first girlfriend broke up with you. (I assume she broke up with you, right? Because you were the one who suffered immensely afterwards…)
When we have such a strong reaction, being debilitated by pain (I can’t describe the pain just that I was very vulnerable that time, anything bad happen will trigger my emotional breakdown), it means that your feeling of self-love was very weak or non-existent. And when your girlfriend broke up with you, you probably felt not just unloved but also unlovable.
Your girlfriend was maybe meeting some of your emotional needs, and when she left you, you might have suddenly felt like a child all alone in the world, with no one to give him what he needs, no one to take care of him. Does any of this ring true?
You said that after the breakup, you had no one to talk to. Which means that you don’t have a strong support system, consisting of family and friends, and you probably very much depended on your girlfriend to give you what you need. Without her, you might have felt lost.
If any of this rings true, I think your priority should be to heal those emotional wounds, i.e. meet those unmet childhood needs, before you start looking for another partner, or commit to your current girlfriend. I would start working on myself before changing anything in my current relationship.
October 31, 2022 at 7:17 am in reply to: My straight boyfriend's gay best friend- what's going on? #409388TeeParticipantYou’re welcome, Rhonda. I wish you best of luck, and if you need to talk about anything, please write.
TeeParticipantYou’re welcome, i-am-one! 🙂
TeeParticipantDear thosedays,
was your previous girlfriend, the one with whom you spent 4 years together, your type?
As anita said, our “type” is often influenced by our childhood. It can be a person who reminds us of one or our parents, or a person who is the opposite of one of our parents. The resemblance can be in physical looks or in their character and temperament.
I came to the realization that I can’t force myself to love a person no matter how perfect the person is.
It may be that the person really isn’t good for us, even though they are a good and honest person, and there is nothing wrong with them. But it can also be that you are looking for “infatuation”, for the strong feelings of excitement, longing, of wanting to merge with the other person… which may actually come from a childhood wound.
For example, we may long to be loved by someone who is emotionally unavailable, who has problems expressing love… and so we end up hurting needlessly. If we realize that this is our weakness, we can stop longing for unavailable people and start being attracted to available people, to those who can actually give us love.
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
My parents did treat me different than my sister, they didn’t have the resources to deal with two sick children and so I had to fight my own battles.
Whenever my sister or family member would hurt me they didn’t really want to deal with it, so they always told me to forget about it. Like when I was ten I got a pet bird and when I told my grandmother she called me an animals abuser. I went home crying but was told to not think about it. That makes you feel worthless. Like it’s okay for other people to hurt you, you are not worth protecting.
I understand. I mean, even if your sister’s symptoms were “bigger” and more severe, and the care of your sister took a lot of their time and energy, it was wrong of your parents to not react in situations like with the pet bird. Because your grandmother behaved horribly, accusing you of being an animal abuser (!), and your parents should have called her out on that. They should have not only spoken with her, but they should have also told you that it wasn’t right from the granny to tell you this, and they should have reassured you that you’re not an animal abuser, and that owning a pet bird doesn’t mean animal abuse.
So they should have reacted because it was clearly child abuse at the hands of your grandmother. It was really mean and harmful to tell such a thing to a child!
I understand how unworthy you must have felt – because as you said, it’s like “we don’t care about you, we don’t care how horribly someone treats you. You’re not important.” The message you got is that you’re not important, and that’s probably one of the key core beliefs that you developed about yourself.
Your parents’ failure to protect you from verbal and emotional abuse by others left you vulnerable and helpless around people, which probably added to your anxiety. Maybe that’s why you were so afraid to ride on a bus, for example. So it could be that their negligence directly contributed to your anxiety. In addition to that is the message “you are not worthy”, or “you are less worthy than others”, which is the conclusion you draw based on their negligence.
Of course, it’s a false conclusion, because you are as worthy as anybody else… I hope you can see it and accept it, slowly but surely.
I am glad this past week was relatively good for you, that you got more sleep and weren’t in pain. And also that you felt more relaxed when going out with your friends from work.
TeeParticipantDear Dan,
you are welcome, and I meant what I said: you are a good man, and you deserve to be loved and appreciated. The fact that she isn’t showing you that at the moment doesn’t mean you don’t deserve it. It doesn’t mean you’re a bad person. Please know that!
I’ve always been hard on myself. A lot of negative self talk.
And this negative self-talk probably started long before you’ve met her, right?
I know how the inner critic can make our lives miserable, how unworthy we can feel because of it. And then when we suffer a blow like this – when the person we love abandons us – it only confirms the horrible stuff we’ve been telling ourselves: that indeed we’re a nobody, that we are unlovable, that nobody will ever want us.
But that’s not true, of course. It’s just a story, a narrative that we’ve been telling ourselves for many many years. It’s a lie, but we live our lives as if it were true.
It was my birthday last week and there was no happy birthday text which kinda hurt.
I can imagine it hurt, and I think not just because she didn’t bother to congratulate, but also because it “confirmed” again what your inner critic has been telling you: that you are unworthy and unlovable. You might have interpreted her lack of happy birthday text as another rejection, and perhaps not just a rejection of you as her romantic partner, but also rejection of you as a person. And it hurts bad… Am I right in thinking that?
Maybe it would be too hard for either of us to be in contact with one another, at least that’s what I tell myself as to why she stopped all communication.
Yes, very likely. She knows she cannot promise you anything and she doesn’t want to string you along, like rekindle the relationship and then put it on ice again…. as she has done already this spring. She doesn’t want that. And she probably can’t do the casual “let’s stay friends” type of thing, because it’s hard to stay friends with so many conflicted feelings. So she figures it’s better not to write at all.
But that doesn’t mean that she thinks you are an unworthy and unlovable person, who doesn’t deserve a birthday greeting. And even if she thought that – which I highly doubt – you ARE NOT an unworthy and unlovable person. Your birthday should be celebrated, and you should celebrate it too because you are a gift to the world! You are special and unique, like each of us is, and you should celebrate your birthday. And you should surround yourself with people who will celebrate you and your birthday!
I do wish you a happy belated birthday, dear Dan! I hope you can see your own worth, diminish the voice of the inner critic, and write another story of your life.
TeeParticipantDear i-am-one,
another example of magical thinking is believing that with the power of your prayers, you can literally save the world. That you as a person have much greater power than you actually have. So magical thinking in spiritual communities can be a sort of megalomaniac, grandiose thinking.
Superstition is also an example of magical thinking, e.g. if I go to church every Sunday, I’ll be saved. If not, I’ll be in trouble.
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
For the first 7 years where we were trying to get a diagnose she was told to just get over it and that she was probably faking it for attention.
Oh I see… I do remember that your fraternal grandmother thought your sister was faking it, so after a while you stopped communicating with her. How did your parents treat you sister? Did they too tell her to just get over it, during those first 7 years?
I asked for extra shifts to pay it off, cuz I really just want it out of the way.
I understand… perhaps still, listen to your own advice and pay more attention to your physical limitations (“listening to my body and giving it rest when it needs is super important“)… because 11 days in a row is a lot, and it may even bring about another bout of pain if you push yourself too hard!
October 30, 2022 at 9:10 am in reply to: My straight boyfriend's gay best friend- what's going on? #409342TeeParticipantDear Rhonda,
it is indeed a sad and complicated story. So, B’s ex is a drug addict who already had 2 children. At the time she met B, she was homeless and running from the authorities. She was high all the time throughout their “relationship”. I guess B too was on drugs at that time…. When did he become sober?
For some reason, B is keen to get custody of his daughter. You’re not sure why:
I don’t know if he’s fighting for his daughter for right or wrong reasons. He bragged to everyone how he’s getting her, and I worry it’s for show instead of love.
Yes, it’s unusual that someone with his background would be so keen on fighting for his child. But as you say, maybe it is to prove to everyone (to his parents?) that he is someone, that he is worthy. That he is able to be a “decent man” and not a crook. However, the way he is treating you in regard to E, as well as his expectations that you should take care of his daughter – show that he is not a decent man. That on one hand he is immature, as you say, but also that he’s manipulative and possibly hiding his true intentions.
His parents are trying to manipulate you too. His father told you:
if you don’t want his daughter or the baby in your stomach we will take them both!
That’s probably a lie, because they show no interest in their granddaughter, they never call and check on her, and they “pretty much refuse to go to Arizona for court”. His father even refuses that she has special needs, even though she was diagnosed with fetal alcohol syndrome.
Add to that that B’s mother is traveling for work – I am sure they wouldn’t be able to take care of their granddaughter, at least not properly. And then you, who seem to be a good-hearted and conscientious person – would be sorry for the child and would probably take her on 100% of the time. B may be counting on that too. Maybe he picked you as the right “candidate” for the task, and that’s why he started chasing you from Day 1 (accidentally or not, the day you met is the day after his daughter was born).
Honestly I’ve wanted to really come clean about my concerns to the case worker, but I don’t feel it’s my business. Any advise on a right answer for that part?
I am not sure about that either. Maybe anita will have a suggestion? Actually it is your business if you plan on staying with him. Because if you do, and even if you’re not married but only live together, I think you might have some legal responsibility regarding his daughter. Provided he gets custody. But I don’t know for sure, it’s just a speculation.
What’s for sure is that the court decision will affect your daily life greatly – if you choose to stay with him and he gets custody. I don’t know what the court takes into account when making their decision? Do they take into account his marital status, i.e. whether he has a stable relationship? Will they call you to testify?
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