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I apologize. I didn’t mean it as a challenge and was more asking about clarification on your thoughts, but I do disagree with your thought on it not being a good idea to challenge other members’ replies. If a statement could lead a person to think negatively in a way that might not be true or necessary, wouldn’t that be important to point out in the thread so that the original poster (or other readers going through similar situations) could consider that as well?
In the future, though, if my opinion differs from yours specifically, I will direct my concerns toward the original poster rather than mentioning you by name or will PM you if that makes more sense in the context. I am only responding here because you responded here rather than sending me a direct message.
ValoraParticipantAnita, is it fair to assume she’s “hiding” the fact that she has a boyfriend or did she just not mention it? I think there is a difference. One is deceitful and the other is just leaving out information that isn’t necessary for whatever reason. If she does not want to be with her ex, it wouldn’t matter whether she has a boyfriend or not, so that information is irrelevant when it comes to her interest (or lack thereof) in the ex.
ValoraParticipantI think the bottom line here is either you trust what she tells you or you don’t. If you don’t think you can trust her, the relationship won’t last no matter what you do, whether she’s trustworthy or not, because the insecurity you feel will eventually drive a wedge in the relationship.
Speaking as an independent female myself, I am friends with most of my ex’s. I would not want to be with anyone that would ask that I cut one or all of them out of my life because, for one, that would basically be him telling me who I can or cannot talk to, which I would not at all appreciate, and, for two, I truly have no residual feelings for the ones that I still talk to, so there’s no reason for anyone to feel threatened by them.
If your girlfriend’s ex is trying to get her back and she is refusing, I would believe what she says. If she wanted to be with him, it’s clear that she could, but she is choosing to be with you.
ValoraParticipantThe timing of his sudden lack of communication (right after you slept together) really is super odd and a big red flag, but I think I would probably give it a little more time, just in case he really is feeling terrible. It’s possible that that really could be keeping him from responding like normal just from feeling weak and lethargic, and I think people tend to be a little more self-centered when sick (not thinking about how others’ might feel) just because their own pain is so noticeable to them right then and he really may just be sleeping a lot.
So, my advice would be to just ride this out for a few more days. Don’t ask him to hang out, and I probably wouldn’t even bother texting him until he texts you once he feels better since you’ve already let him know you hope he feels better and to let you know if there’s anything you can do. He can only have a cold for so long and THEN you’ll be able to really gauge his interest by how well he communicates after that. If he’s still taking forever to reply or not seeming to be interested after he’s feeling better, then I would back way off.
December 7, 2018 at 6:57 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #268323ValoraParticipantI know, can’t dwell on the could of, should of, what if things. Can’t help it when those thoughts run through my brain. Then i will think, just need to be patient. I need to wait her relationship with him to fail and then maybe… I hate that i think those things so freaking much. I seriously do have a problem. I really do need to take charge of my own life and quit worrying about the past or the future.
John, I really think you should consider going back to counseling with a cognitive behavioral therapist, because it would really help for you to work on retraining your brain. I personally know it’s a struggle and I still struggle sometimes too, but counselors can help you find the tools that will work for you so that you feel better a majority of the time.
Otherwise, the bottom line pretty much is that we can’t control how long it takes for us to get over someone, but we CAN control our suffering to a degree, and you are definitely suffering far more than you need to be. The questions you keep asking yourself are ones that just can’t be answered, and trust me, my mind wants to go there sometimes with my ex, too, but I’ve learned to redirect my thinking as quickly as I can when that starts because I know it’s a slippery slope. I think once your girlfriend is home more, that will help, too, because you will have a little more freedom, but I think counseling with someone who could really help you to retrain your line of thinking would do you a world of good.
ValoraParticipantI wouldn’t call it stupid, but probably insecure. Maybe just pay attention to her actions because those always speak louder than words. If she is taking the time to organize a trip for both of you and asking you how you are, which shows you that she cares, she probably has greater feelings for you than you know and it’s just probably your mind playing tricks on you. Just pay attention to all of the little things she does. That’s what will show you how she feels.
- This reply was modified 6 years ago by Valora.
ValoraParticipantIt seems to me like you two have different affection styles that are incompatible. If you continue a relationship, at some point you would both want to be together more often, right? But if when you’re together, you fight a lot because you want attention and he wants space, then you are likely to just have the same problems when you move together again unless one of you changes. So the question you have to probably ask yourself is would you be happy in a relationship with someone who needs more space than you would like to have? And if you don’t think you would, it might be better to break things off while you’re separated. If, however, you think you could give him the space he needs when you do move back together without feeling unloved or anything, then it might be worth seeing how things go over Christmas. Although I might wait until after anyway if I were you because breakups during the holidays are absolutely horrible.
- This reply was modified 6 years ago by Valora.
December 4, 2018 at 3:08 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #267837ValoraParticipantBrandy, I love what you pointed out from Brav3’s posts:
During those months of struggle he did research and worked on himself and came out a wiser, stronger, better person.
He says Its only through hardships rather than ease that we gain wisdom. A breakup will make you wiser and you will come out of it as a stronger person. Trust me. Work on yourself.
I’ve had a similar transformation myself and feel stronger, better, and more “myself” than I ever have in my life, and that has brought so much value with it. I think that’s the whole point of going through experiences like this, and if you don’t learn that lesson, these or similar experiences repeat until you do. It’s certainly given me a lot of peace when I felt so devastated for much of the year. (My breakup happened at the end of October last year, and I felt a similar connection with my ex that John does with his)
December 4, 2018 at 2:59 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #267835ValoraParticipantIt is in your words, right there. You need a girlfriend who does not have young children to take care of and who has enough money and time to have fun activities with you, trips on weekends and such.
Keeping it simple, you don’t want to be a dad or a caretaker to young children. You want to have fun with a woman who does not have young children and who is able to do fun things in weekends with you. When you have a girlfriend like this, who is of course nice to you, affectionate, then you will forget all about your ex again, just like you did before, don’t you think?
I totally agree with Anita. It seems like this to me too. This is the sort of relationship that truly seems to make you happy.
December 4, 2018 at 2:56 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #267833ValoraParticipantHow can someone show so much love to someone, then just forget it all. Kind of like one of his posts talked about him seeing her laughing having a good time, and not even showing any signs of grief or anything.
It’s just because that’s how she was really feeling at the time that she said those things to you. But the problem with feelings is sometimes they change, and meanwhile the other person is usually expecting them not to. That expectation makes it hard for you to understand when they change, even though, as you’ve seen from other posts, it happens quite a lot.
This is so freaking difficult to understand everything. and i am the type of person that I have to be able to understand to be at rest.
This might be another lesson that this is trying to teach you. I used to be this way too. I was NOT happy unless I understood why things happened. I felt like I neeeeeded to know… but through my experience, I’ve learned that sometimes you just have to move on without being able to truly understand. There are some things you are just not ever going to have the answers to and we all need to be able to accept that. So one of the things you might need to learn from this experience is to be able to accept things that you don’t understand and be at rest whether you know why they happened or not. That’s part of letting things go.
It feels like all we both want is time together, but when we do get that. We are fighting by the end of the day. What’s really screwed up is that when we fight, i get depressed and pissed off at myself. I think, ” Why couldn’t I have stood up for myself like this with my ex? Why couldn’t of I spoke my mind like this?” With my ex, i was so afraid to say or do anything to upset her or make waves. I wish I would have. I feel like I cheated myself out of being able to say to her what I needed to when i needed to. What i should have said, instead of harboring everything trying to protect her.
You know… maybe the fact that you were afraid to stand up for yourself with your ex means that she really wasn’t the right one for you. There had to have been a level of discomfort there or you would’ve felt more comfortable with being open… and the fact that you’re able to do that with your current girlfriend could either mean you feel comfort with her in a way that you didn’t with your ex… or maybe you just don’t care whether you lose her or not. Only you can know the answer to that.
Wow! I never realized that until i just typed it. I really need to talk to her and tell her that. No wonder we get in fights. I think when that happens i finally feel like i’m going to get a break, and i don’t. Then i get pissed, especially if she gets upset about anything. Like “How dare you get upset, when i’ve done nothing but take care of your kids all week after week after week.”.
This is a really good realization and I agree that it’d be good to talk to your girlfriend about. I’m sure it’d help her to understand why you get upset and maybe there will be less fights with this understanding.
I hate saying this, but I need to be happy and if I’m not happy then how can we be happy?? DAMN! I wonder if this is how my ex felt? But she just never expressed it to me and was just finished with it all one day?
This is entirely possible. And if your ex wasn’t happy with herself back then and needed something to change, that could be the reason things worked out the way they did.
ValoraParticipantI think your insecurity and anxiety is probably being signaled because you noticed a negative change in his behavior. He went from doing things that you liked and appreciated to now not doing those things, and that sends up red flags, leading to anxiety/insecurity. I get what he’s saying about not wanting to text all day, every day because that really is time consuming, but it says something to me that he sometimes doesn’t reply until the next day. Unless you’re sending him messages after he goes to bed, he could at least give you a response before he goes to sleep, especially if he knows you like the goodnight texts.
It IS a good sign that he’s taking you to shows with friends and that he’s going out of his way to see you, but his flaking in both text and hanging out is not a good sign, so, if I were you, I think I would just back off a little bit and don’t expect anything or get further attached until you feel confident in his interest in you. You can definitely keep hanging out with him and see where things go, but just sort of detach yourself a bit from the outcome of this if you can. I know that’s hard when you really like someone, but I think that’ll help with your anxiety. If you find you’re getting too attached and unable to detach and feeling more anxiety because of it, then, yeah, I would leave the situation because he might not really be a match for you if your affection/communication styles are clashing or if you’re not on the same page. And if you pull back and he steps up to the plate and draws himself closer, then you can see how you feel and go from there.
ValoraParticipantmy old friends were always jealous of me rather than supportive, jealous of my art, my makeup line, the clothes i made, and whenever I couldn’t make plans with them because i had to study for a test they would start arguments. I think you’re right, i need yo learn to be happy by myself and that a vibe of lack creates more lack, i just dont know how to do that will i will read the blog you mentioned and start reading books again. Thank you so much
Yep, I definitely don’t blame you at all for losing them, then. Those kind of people tend to be toxic and that’s the last thing anyone needs.
I would honestly just start with reading helpful blogs and books. Do a Google search for anything you don’t know how to do and just start reading. At the beginning of the year, I was trying hard to get over a really devastating breakup and figured out that I had attachment issues and really needed to learn to let go of people, things, and any need for control, so I literally Googled “how to let go” and “how to not need closure” and “how to not need control” and just read blog after blog until it started to click in my head and I was able to figure out the things that worked for me to be able to achieve what I wanted to with that. It’s okay that you feel lost and confused right now, but just reading advice on how to solve the problems that you’re feeling will eventually help a ton with your confusion and help to get you back on the path that you want to be on. Maybe start with Googling “How to be happy with my own company” and just start reading some of the things that pop up. Eventually you’ll find something that speaks to you.
ValoraParticipantOne thing i hate though is that im constantly checking my phone im always texting people and waiting on replies i cant stand being alone and i dont know how to love myself or love my own company
I think the best thing you can do is start reading advice in books or on blogs that pertains to learning how to love your own company. You might have to try a few different things, but it’s really empowering once you do it. It gives you a certain kind of freedom because your happiness doesn’t depend on anyone but you, and when you enjoy just being with you, then that allows you to feel that.
See if you can find some hobbies that can be enjoyed alone like painting or reading or learning a new language, anything that genuinely interests and excites you.
And I totally agree with Inky. The older you get, the less free time people have to spend with friends, especially when they start having kids. And cell phones definitely don’t help with the younger crowd because that’s been proven to make people way more focused on what’s going on on social media rather than paying attention to the people who are in the room with them. I’m sure it’s nothing against you specifically, but that’s why it helps so much when you enjoy your own company because you sort of just learn not to care about those things so much.
November 30, 2018 at 8:38 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #267195ValoraParticipantThose posts that Brandy and “X” shared really is great advice, especially that last one there at the top.
John, have you thought about doing counseling again? Maybe with a different counselor than you tried last time? I can’t remember if you said you were going again or not. You are definitely still ruminating on her almost daily, it seems, and you’re also still telling yourself things are hard that are really only hard because you keep telling yourself is hard… and I can say that because I’ve been through it too. My ex just contacted me randomly on Thanksgiving to say Happy Thanksgiving and that he thought of me. He didn’t even tell me Happy Birthday earlier this year. haha. I could’ve started overthinking/analyzing and let that put me into a spiral of “why did he bother contacting me? what is he thinking? blah blah,” but you just kind of have to not let yourself read into things like that because it really doesn’t matter if it’s not an “I miss you and want to talk about getting back together.”
Definitely DON’T contact her at all until you are completely over things. Otherwise, you really are likely to set yourself back, just like you said. It’s really important to keep resetting your focus on your current life at the moment, which she is not a part of. You will hurt a lot less when you do that, so you just have to make the decision to do it and be strong and determined about it. I thought the month of October was going to be rougher than normal because that was the 1-year anniversary of when we broke up, but, thankfully, I made the decision early on in the month to just let go and focus on the now, and the whole rest of the month went really smoothly. Your holidays can go smoothly too, but you have to make the decision and then be strong about sticking to it.
ValoraParticipantWhat was it about your previous friends that made you feel like they weren’t on the same vibrational level?
I think the lesson here might be to work on being happy with yourself alone until you get your own vibration back on the right track. A vibration of desperation and lack tends to push things away to create more lack. It’s important to really work on being truly content at an energy level. Do you have any hobbies you really enjoy? Maybe you could take some classes or do some activities and that would be a good way to meet new people and get back into being more active socially while also being therapeutic. I love the painting classes that seem to be everywhere right now. And I used to do bowling leagues, which was actually a lot of fun.
In the meantime, I would try to not be concerned about getting your old life back but better at the moment and just focus on doing things that make you feel happy now, literally anything that you truly enjoy doing… reading, creating art or music, going for walks, etc, without focusing on the things you don’t like at the moment. There’s a blog, too, that I love called “Life Made to Order” that gives really good, no-nonsense advice on getting back on track that I’ve found helpful, too.
Also, be careful to not be too picky. It’s definitely good to not let anyone toxic into your space, but sometimes I think when we are too picky up front, we tend to not give people a chance and can sort of “judge a book by its cover,” so to speak. Some people are closed off at first and that can give off a vibe of resistance, but they are truly great people to have around once they open up, so just make sure you give people a chance to show themselves before you decide that you don’t want to let them hang around you.
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