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VioletParticipant
Hello,
Good for you Vialevi for going through with this; it takes courage to do something that gives you pause!
There are lots of mature (older) students at colleges, I would see if some sort of group exists and if not, start one. It’ll be a great opportunity to meet and make friends with people in the same boat/like minded individuals.
I’d also go to the learning center and figure out a study plan and see what sorts of programs they have for improving your studying, essay writing, coping skills and more.
If you do well academically there are lots of funds available and usually there are some funds allocated for students in need. As well, maybe you could get a part time job on campus — check with the career center.
Best of luck!!
VioletParticipantHello,
James, this IS creepy and stalkerish.
If you really want to try to contact her, send her a message through the site. If that is not possible, there are, as you say, thousands of people on the site. Someone of them will surely be interested in you.
I would try to understand why you feel that you have so much of a connection with this person you have never met, never spoken to, or never chatted with.
Best of luck.
VioletParticipantHi Anita,
Absolutely agree. Sometimes one or two come along (as in this case) that are outside my comfort level/experience and input from others with experience in similar situations is useful.
On another note, in response to your advice, what are some tips in keeping the physical at bay. Men can be quite persistent and I find when I’m in a situation where someone is moving too fast for me, I just walk away.
Cheer, V
VioletParticipantstarrynightdreams,
Your school counselor has tons of information about career prospects and so forth. They are usually really helpful.
VioletParticipantCheck on-line for activities you can do in your town that are free–like a nature club or or other meet up groups that have activities that you are interested in. This will help you to make friends with new people and to have fun at the same time. Also, there are on-line dating sites that are free that can be a good place to meet people to date. If you don’t try you won’t be able to succeed.
If she is not ready for something and you push it or keep bringing it up, eventually you will push her away. Sometimes women need space and they also need to be with someone that they see as confident, independent, and has interesting qualities to bring to the table. In your first message you said she told you she doesn’t want to date. Give it some time, a few months, and then you revisit the conversation if you’re still interested.
VioletParticipantNan,
I’m so sorry to hear about the relationship with your mother. I hope you have moved on from the grief and fear of that relationship.
Your situation is not an easy one. I would first suggest having a talk with your current husband so you can get things off your chest and be respectful of him as your partner. Plan out what you want to say if you feel like that will help. I would also be sure that you and your first husband are on the same page and have the same expectations. Then things will be able to move forward. One step at at time.
VioletParticipantI would recommend seeing a counselor at school. There are a number of tests that you can do to see where your strengths are and what would be good career opportunities that match your interests.
I also suggest that whatever you do, to combine with some marketing/business courses, these are always useful skills. Also volunteering in areas where you’re interested in working can get you a better perspective in those fields and make contacts. I understand that your uncles likely have your interests at heart–money is important but at the end of the day do you want to be miserable because you’re doing something you tolerate with a big salary or something you love with a smaller one?
VioletParticipantIf you can accept that she’s not interested in or available for dating, if you can accept that she’s not interested in dating you then continue being friends. She has a lot going on and her kid is her priority. Giving the situation some space, dating other women would be a good idea for you to help with your emotion towards her.
January 27, 2016 at 7:00 am in reply to: super intense communication based courtship–advice and insight please! #93927VioletParticipantBrilliant analysis/insight Anita, you’re doing for me what I can’t do for myself here; thank you!
I also just read a piece written by comedian Whitney Cummings on her co-dependence and something from Mental Health America. I’d heard about this but wasn’t quite sure what it was–like her I thought it meant just being in bad relationships. Anyway, I’m happy to say this is not the case with me. Though, I’m not sure about him. Another question for him, if we return to that point.
He and I are both trying to be quite honest in our communication with each other. And we’re coming to realize, that it’s not normal for either of us (especially me) to share quite so much. The thing that happened after supper on Sunday where he just kept confessing, getting off his chest all these problems of his I think was a result of that. I am complicit in so far as that I don’t tell him to stop talking, or I don’t ignore him, and that I do engage in the convo–maybe giving some comments, I can’t fully remember at this point. But, I don’t start any of them. When we talked Monday, he was frustrated by all the serious talking. When I pointed out that he initiated he more or less said he didn’t know why but he (I’m paraphrasing here) felt compelled to divulge and that this was not something normal for him. And the extreme divulging caused him anxiety (again paraphrasing) but again, he couldn’t help himself.
I just let him talk for a couple of reasons. Also, when we’re cuddling and talking (we have done this quite a bit) usually if one of us starts babbling about something or getting into serious territory the other will kiss them. It’s a good way to shift. Once he began venting some frustration about I can’t remember what (maybe something family related) I did the kiss and he said “can I talk” so I backed off. I would say a part of me didn’t want him to feel ignored (as I would have in a similar situation, depending on the topic).I felt like maybe he wants me to know things and if that’s important to him, then I accept that.
Re your statement on deserving an honest partner who takes responsibility for his feelings, doesn’t blame me, or expect me to fix him. I think is is that. He hasn’t blamed me for anything, he’s doing a lot of work with himself and his therapist to fix himself, and his anger hasn’t been targeted at me, it’s about all the other stuff and hang ups about peoples’ past behavior toward him. Once toward the end of Sunday when he was upset because he said I didn’t respect him. I was shocked at this and said, probably not so sweetly, I’ do! He elaborated that because I didn’t ask him if he had stuff to do Sunday when I ended up lounging around there. I apologized, said I do respect him, and I didn’t even think about it because I was enjoying being with him and that I’ve told him several times to kick me out if he has stuff to do & I won’t feel bad about it. Moreover, after supper it was his idea that I would return to his place to do some work. Which I ended up not doing because we napped and then after went into these intense discussions. He felt that I was inconsistent because I didn’t get my stuff done. Later when we were talking more calmly I confessed my extreme anxiety over that particular project I’m working on. And that one of my mechanisms for coping with anxiety is avoidance.
Thanks for paying attention to all of this. I really appreciate the feedback.
January 26, 2016 at 6:48 pm in reply to: super intense communication based courtship–advice and insight please! #93861VioletParticipantThanks for this EAR communication strategy Anita. There is definitely no lack of assertiveness on either of our parts. To me it is more like responding in empathetic, thoughtful, gentle ways. So, for example with this situation:
“when we were at the church was that he would like a person who could accept him for despite his faults, I started crying again, and said she’s right here but you’re pushing her away. He acknowledged that in a very kind way.”The response he gave was verbal acknowledgment of his rough behaviour and apologizing and then giving a side hug (we were sitting beside each other) and trying to kiss me on the cheek, which I couldn’t accept. I was not quite settled and I don’t like people touching me when I’m not in a good place with them. Does this make sense?
That is one of my concerns, that I will become a mother to an adult man who is supposed to be my partner.
What suggestions do you have for discerning information from emotions? Getting to know them better?
Many thanks for your insight.
VioletParticipantDear Serendipityj,
I fully agree with Anita. I think that any sort of involvement (romantic or friendship) will lead to unhappiness for you.
v
January 26, 2016 at 6:16 pm in reply to: super intense communication based courtship–advice and insight please! #93854VioletParticipantThank you Anita and Emily for your thoughtful and kind comments. They definitely make me feel more sane. I definitely agree, with a lot of the points you’ve made.
I also think that it could a good match. Though I haven’t told him the extent of my circumstance. He says he is quite intuitive, and I’ve seen some evidence of it, so I’m pretty sure he can read between the lines. My analogy to him was that of some sticks: one on its own falls over if you try to stand it up, two together can prop each other up. My concern is are we strong enough to prop each other up? Even though I think I can love him back to happy, maybe I can’t or maybe he doesn’t want to (I’m not in love with him yet, but the sentiment is growing). Maybe we’re like kindling that will just blow away in a spring breeze.
I’ve also thought about joining in with his therapist–though it seemed too soon to broach that one! We did agree that eventually we should do couples therapy because I think it’s a good check in for a relationship. He’ll go again tomorrow-who knows what will transpire?! He did tell the therapist about us and explained the first date and the 6 hour convo. He said she said it’s a good thing to go out with me/ give it a go. We’ll see what happens next week. I don’t know if she’s good–I think she is because he’s comfortable with her and he’s been seeing her for over a year. So, hopefully yes. I know I saw someone about ten years ago and he was ooookay. I definitely would like to find someone on my own though. Maybe I’ll see about that in the next couple of days.
Though I know I can be mean to people (though loosing my temper, though it’s never been a common occurance) since 2008 I am proud to say that I have not said anything to anyone with the intention of being unkind. I try to do everything with love and kindness. It’s often not reciprocated or taken advantage of. That’s okay because I’m also trying to not have expectations of people. But at the same time, it can be quite hurtful. I take some time to recover and then go on my way again. I’m so used to people bailing on me when I’m trying my best to be kind and at the same time true to myself. I’m just bracing myself for impact. I don’t know if he will be different.
One other thing he said when we were at the church was that he would like a person who could accept him for despite his faults, I started crying again, and said she’s right here but you’re pushing her away. He acknowledged that in a very kind way. He was very kind and gentle with me the entire time. I’ve never been with someone who is abusive so I don’t know if this is the beginning of a pattern–yell and then be gentle. But he took ownership for his wrong, so that seems the right (non-abusive) thing to do.
This thing about having a kid seems to be a big deal for both of us. I don’t want to rush and have one without spending some alone years with my partner but I realize I’m fairly old and the possibility of it happening easily is getting lower. At the same time, he often takes care of his young niece who is quite the handful and that with the strained relationship with his sibling makes it tiring for him. So he goes on about that. I have enough energy for two people but I don’t want to be single parenting with a spouse who is distant. That would be me repeating an unhappy pattern. I know it’s been a tough period of year for him–the MDs told him there’s noting that can be done about his health issues (including some chest and muscular pains) and his mum’s death anniversary and this thing with me all happened at the same time. And, we tend to stay up quite late together. I’m also having some challenging issues with school and my funding. So of course it’s all quite emotional.
I really don’t know if I have my head on straight, but thanks for that comment Emily. It’s really hard for me to trust my judgement on what I’m doing in relationships. I’ve had some good relationships (romantic and otherwise) but many of them ended not so well (people can be surprising). Hence, the usefulness of the questions for me. I have a terribly difficult time discerning between intuition/gut feeling and hope or fear. Also, I like to help people and fix things so now I’m worried that I over think things. I definitely do tend to analyze and use more logic than emotion to figure things out. He says I’m a little like Data from Star Trek in that way. Always thinking no so good at feeling. I’m super emotional but so much is suppressed (repressed?) I don’t really understand the nuances very well.
Thank you for taking the time to ponder my worries.
VioletParticipantShe definitely has some insecurity and deamons she needs to fight.
It just depends if she is ready to go through that process and if she wants you there and if you want to be there with her.
VioletParticipantIf a pregnancy is “unstable” people are generally hesitant to say anything about it–I’ve had friends who lost their babies in the 7th and 8th months. Also, afterwards is generally a very busy time. However, if someone is dating a person for four years, their friends will know. It looks to me like the feeling is not mutual in this relationship–maybe she doens’t want to be rude and tell you in a straight way and is ending up being more inconsiderate by doing this other stuff to you.
If someone wants to interact with you, they will find a way. Eventually. That’s what I’ve come to realize.
VioletParticipantDanie,
I know what it’s like to have that armour. Ironic isn’t it, how something that’s supposed to protect you can cause pain. I find taking a walk in nature, near trees or water helps. Step by step.
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