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  • in reply to: How do I stop being angry about old drama? (long) #57149
    Kelly
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    Bill, I really like your technique of picturing people as 5 year olds who suffered and thinking about how they’re still hurting. In fact, it makes me weep for those I’ve felt wronged me. I am imagining myself giving these children loving hugs and telling them it’s ok. Thank you for sharing.

    in reply to: Missing him #57061
    Kelly
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    Hi Jamie,
    Big warm hugs to you. I am sorry you are hurting. Ending a love relationship is so very hard. I’m going to offer my two cents worth. I’m sure others will weigh in with differing opinions, but here’s mine: I would think long and hard about if you really want to open yourself up to more potential pain by reaching out to pursue a friendship with him. The reason I say this is because it seems you are still in a lot of pain over the breakup, which is totally understandable and something you will work through as time goes on, however I think it leaves you pretty vulnerable. You say the pain has “somewhat” subsided, and you’re still crying because you miss him. Again, completely understandable but it seems it may still be too raw to initiate contact with him again. Eventually the pain will be completely gone and what remains would be a fondness for him and your time together. Only once you reach that point do I think you should even consider contacting him. And another thing, whenever I think about being friends with exes, I ask myself “do my friends treat me the way he did? Would I want a friend to treat me that way?” Maybe in your case he was a dear friend to you and as you say it was just the breakup that caused you both to express hurtful things to each other. But when I think about some of the qualities of my past partners especially in cases of betrayal, abuse, or other maltreatment, I couldn’t even call that person a friend. You should do what feels right for you, though. Follow your own heart and have the courage to do so.

    in reply to: How do I stop being angry about old drama? (long) #56945
    Kelly
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    “What people think of you is none of your business” is a quote I like.

    One suggestion I have is to unfriend or at least hide these people in your Facebook newsfeed. Exit the groups where they are making public comments that have you feeling uncomfortable. Essentially, limit your exposure to the hurtful things. Out of sight, out of mind can sometimes be a very easy and effective way to deal with these types of issues.

    I encourage you to continue with your art project. It made you happy. Do it for you, not for anybody else. If you do share it in an online art community and someone recognizes it and starts in on you, that’s going to reflect far worse on them than on you. Don’t allow fear to keep you paralyzed. Sharing your art is brave, be proud of that. Anyone can be a critic but it takes courage to exhibit your work. Unfortunately, you may need to develop thick skin in terms of handling criticism or rejection. Not everybody is going to like your work, or you for that matter, but it takes all types to make the world go around. Someone may fall in love with your work, and by extension you.

    in reply to: betrayal confirmed, opened a wound #56879
    Kelly
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    Thanks, Marshmallow. You speak the truth! I do know the 5 stages of grief & loss and have cycled through them during the aftermath of this relationship. I’ve ventured into “Acceptance” only to be pulled back into “Denial”, “Anger” and “Bargaining”. I think I’m in a bit of denial still. Not so much denial that the relationship is over, but denial that this man I loved with all my heart is indeed a “prick”. I feel like I’m making excuses for him in my mind, or that I’m choosing to look at him with loving kindness and forgive him for the betrayal because I can sympathize with his reasons for his behavior. Well, they’re not so much his reasons as they are what my reasons would be if I were him, if that makes sense. I think the frustrating part for me to get over is that I spent months telling him I understood, that I would not blame him if he strayed because of the awful state of our relationship and that we could work through anything together if only he would be honest. And then for him to turn around and tell me no, he hasn’t betrayed me, I’ve got it all wrong and at the same time make daily overtures to win back my affections and urge me to see a counselor with him to repair this relationship. Why go through all that? Why continue to lie, cover up and deny when your partner is telling you I GET IT, I WILL FORGIVE YOU, LET’S MOVE ON TOGETHER? It’s almost like he is in such deep denial of his own behavior that he can’t even admit it to himself, let alone me. And then to find out later that I was right all along, it’s just exhausting. It makes me lose respect for him and feel sorry for him actually, but then the anger flares up and around and around I go.

    I would also be lying if I didn’t admit to feeling jealous. Even though I had my own reasons for withdrawing from the relationship long before this other woman came onto the scene, it hurts to know his focus is no longer on me. I used to be the one to light up his life, the one he was excited about. What does she have that I don’t? I know these thoughts are due to a weakened self-esteem, it’s just such a stark contrast from feeling like somebody believed the sun rose and set upon me and how quickly I can be replaced.

    I just don’t want to feel like it was all for naught. What lessons did I learn through this relationship? It’s really hard to say that trusting my intuition is one of them, because how did I get myself into this mess in the first place?

    As you can see, keeping things bottled up is not a problem I have, lol.

    in reply to: betrayal confirmed, opened a wound #56849
    Kelly
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    Thanks, ladies. Your kind words and support really mean a lot to me and have helped me to keep things in perspective and heal accordingly. I truly appreciate these forums and the kind hearted people who share their thoughts and feelings here.

    S.R., Your words spoke to me so strongly that I jotted a few things in my journal: “action is a better indictor of character then words” – how true it is! My ex certainly knew the right words to say to make me feel cherished and loved, but oftentimes his actions did not align with these words. I’ve heard it said that when someone shows you who they are, believe them. We met under precarious circumstances (he was married when we first met, divorced during our time together) and I took the risk in loving him despite the “red flags”. It’s funny what we’ll look past when we’re feeling the pull of attraction and a heart mate. I thought I was different, that our relationship was one in a million. In hindsight, having this “overlap” in relationships seems to be a pattern with him. I feel sympathy and even pity for him sometimes when I realize how desperate he must be to never be alone. But I digress, that’s his life now and not for me to concern myself about. I also liked your words “How someone treats you is an indictor of their character not your value.” I think I’ve always known that at some level, but have fallen into the trap of personalizing it and feeling regret for the things I did to push him away. Truth be told, our relationship was deteriorating well before he met this other woman, though it doesn’t do much to lessen the sting of the betrayal.

    Jasmine, thank you for the vote of confidence. You bring much optimism and joy to these boards.

    Laura, I’m touched that you acknowledged my comments on another’s thread. I look forward to hearing more from you. You definitely have a point that this solidifies my decision to end things. It’s bittersweet, because even though my gut was telling me the whole time that things weren’t right, I wasn’t getting the whole story and that I had reason to legitimately suspect infidelity, I didn’t WANT to be right, ya know? It’s hard to take in this information and not have it cast a dark shadow over a very significant love relationship for me. The irony is that until things went off the rails with our relationship, it was the first time in a relationship where I did not feel horribly insecure and mistrustful.

    Cherrymom, I feel for you and your situation. I can’t imagine having to face the situation on a daily basis. I feel enmeshed more than I want to be due to the fact one of my closest friends has business relationships with both my ex’s mom and his sister, so he’s always kind of there on the periphery and I get occasional “updates” from my well-meaning friend that I’d rather not hear. I appreciate your encouragment. I hope you learn to trust your mind and heart again too.

    At the risk of being corny, I thought I’d share a poem I find meaningful in recovering from a break up:

    Love After Love

    The time will come
    when, with elation
    you will greet yourself arriving
    at your own door, in your own mirror
    and each will smile at the other’s welcome,

    and say, sit here. Eat.
    You will love again the stranger who was your self.
    Give wine. Give bread. Give back your heart
    to itself, to the stranger who has loved you

    all your life, whom you ignored
    for another, who knows you by heart.
    Take down the love letters from the bookshelf,

    the photographs, the desperate notes,
    peel your own image from the mirror.
    Sit. Feast on your life.

    Derek Walcott

    in reply to: HELL, We Create For Ourselves #56845
    Kelly
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    ThirdEyePoke,
    I would encourage you to be less judgmental of yourself and your situation. At the end of your post, you offer two solutions: accept you were never in love and let her go, or “man up” and try your best to love her. This implies you see the latter choice as the “right” one, the honorable choice and I’m just not sure it’s true. Yes, you are presented with two paths, but ask yourself what do you truly want, in your heart and soul? You allude throughout your post of things not being right with your relationship with this girl. You take accountability for your part in it, which is admirable, but there are also things that boil down to compatibility and fit. It is not your responsibility to “take care of” another person at the cost of your own happiness and mental health. Everybody “deserves” to be loved, but just because you “chose” her to date does not mean you are forever obligated to make sacrifices in order to be with her. I encourage you to read up on codependency and see if any of it resonates with you.

    Kelly

    in reply to: ANXIOUS AND SCARED #56801
    Kelly
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    Tracey,

    I wanted to let you know I can relate. Have you ever read about attachment hunger? We were all affected by our early childhood relationships with parents and loved ones. In situations where there were not healthy bonds, we try in many ways to recreate or “conquer” the challenges of early childhood in our adult relationships. I will tell you that I’ve always thought it was cliche to think about “mommy” or “daddy” issues as being contributors to unhealthy adult relationships, but the book “How to Break Your Addiction to a Person” by Howard Halpern (a valuable tool to help me through my own breakup) really opened my eyes to the ways these early childhood/infant experiences can shape how we relate to others in later life. Take it for what it’s worth, as an idea to explore. It may not resonate with you, but it could explain why you feel clingy and anxious regarding your new partner.

    This article may be of interest: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-experience/200902/emotional-hunger-vs-love

    Enjoy your weekend with the man πŸ™‚

    in reply to: Buddhism vs Modern Psychology #56791
    Kelly
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    Mark,

    I don’t have much in terms of guidance to offer, but I wanted to let you know I too struggle with the seeming contradiction between Buddhism and psychology. I have studied the latter for longer and only recently have become interested in understanding Buddhism. For years, my “guru” was Lou Tice of the Pacific Institute, an organization I was exposed to through my work in a corporate environment. A lot of attention was put to goal setting and visualization techniques. For instance, if you have a fear of public speaking, visualize yourself delivering a flawless speech to the crowd. Over and over, play this movie in your mind of you delivering the speech, so that when the time comes to give the speech, you are simply acting out the scene you have envisioned in your mind. We move toward and become what we think about. Visualize yourself driving that fancy new car you want, getting married to that beautiful woman, or performing a drum solo to an enthusiastic audience. But isn’t that too much future thinking, when you consider the teachings of Buddhism? Shouldn’t you be mindful of the present moment and not give attention or time to that speech you need to deliver tomorrow? I’ve heard it said that spending too much mental energy on the past leads to depression whereas investing too much time focused on the future can cause anxiety. But what of goals and hopes and dreams? How do these future biased thought patterns fit into a Buddhist mind? I think for someone like me who wants to have a high level of (perceived?) “control” in my life, the idea that everything is happening perfectly, in its own time without any intervention from me causes me angst. Surely there’s something I can do to direct my life’s path. But this is ego, and ego is something I could stand to let go of.

    I guess we need to take a deep breath and get out of our heads at times.

    in reply to: My weekend #56786
    Kelly
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    Jacqueline, forgive me for being judgmental, but is this the same guy from your other post? He was a former flame from high school with whom you were getting together for the first time in years this past weekend. How is it, that only a week later you are “exclusively dating” and you’re already trying to change him? Is it possible that this just isn’t a good match? If you’re basing your entire perception of him on one weekend, which was essentially one long first date, don’t you think you’re jumping to conclusions a bit? I would suggest you let the relationship organically develop and see how you like it. Enjoy the ride. You are in the early stages of dating, just getting to know each other and your behaviors.

    in reply to: Thank you All!! #56772
    Kelly
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    Great to hear such happy thoughts from you, Anyone πŸ™‚

    in reply to: Realizing I was someone's " Project Fix " #56647
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    Zita,
    You’ve already received some great responses. I could personally relate to Cyd’s thoughts.

    You may find this article helpful:

    Telling Them All About Themselves – Why It’s Not Your Job To List Their Flaws and Crimes

    I, too, would encourage you NOT to send the email. I know how tempting it can be, but I would put money on it that you will not feel any better afterwards, and in fact may feel worse.

    Keep healing yourself, honey.

    Kelly
    Participant

    Tinyzebra, I’m so happy you’ve come to realize that feeling your feelings is essential, and not rally against any that are unpleasant. I, too, have fell into that trap where I’d feel sad, then be mad at myself for feeling sad and do you think that made me feel any better? I suffered through my relationship when I would tell my partner a negative feeling I had about our relationship and instead of him allowing me to express myself, he would explain how my feeling was “wrong” because it was based on “inaccurate assumptions” or things like that. If I really understood how things were, I wouldn’t feel the way I did, was his perspective. It can be so defeating to have a loved one invalidate you like that. But I digress, the point is you are going to feel sad and that’s ok. There are a lot of articles on Tiny Buddha about feeling your bad feelings as a path to healing, but I found this one especially meaningful:

    Why Letting Ourselves Feel Bad Is the Key to Feeling Better

    in reply to: Constant Regrets #56392
    Kelly
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    Big blue, wonderful advice. I especially love the bowling analogy. I would recommend bowling as a fun social activity. I’m in a league and met a woman on my team who has now become my best friend. Anyway, as they say in bowling “Every frame’s a new game” – this is a new game for you, M, and it can be fun and exciting. <3

    in reply to: Lost the Love of my Life #56357
    Kelly
    Participant

    Hi Nami. First off, please don’t feel you have to apologize for the length of your posts or asking questions of the community. I hope you feel free to express yourself fully on this forum.

    Forgive me for possibly honing in on an unneccessary detail, but I am having difficulty wrapping my head around this “3 months” timeline. In your first post, it sounds like your boyfriend was pretty clear about things being over. You’ve given each other enough chances, the cycle of bad habits, etc. You met to “say goodbye” and that was that, painful as it was. Perhaps you’ve left out some details, but did you actually discuss reevaluating things together in three months, or because the block on the phone is automatically lifted in 3 months you assume that’s when you’ll be able to call him again and start campaigning to win him back? Because, to be honest, unless it was a deliberate separation with plans to reconvene later, the 3 months seems kind of arbitrary. You can remove a block on a phone number just as easily as you put one on. You are not “locked in” to the block. If the two of you want to dicuss things, there’s no reason you can’t even before this “deadline”. The reason I ask is because I’m concerned that you are delaying moving on from this relationship because of what may be false hope in having a “happy ending” with this man in 3 months. I do apologize if my words are harsh – my intentions are pure. Three months is a long time to spend flogging yourself over things that happened in the past. It’s wonderful that this experience has opened your eyes and caused you to look inward and improve upon yourself, but please do it for the goal of a happier, healthier you and not for some perceived prize of winning him back. He is not the only man in the world, and truth be told it takes two to make a relationship succeed (or fail). It’s admirable you are taking away your own issues and mistakes to work on, but he was a player in this as well. Perhaps you will find that this just wasn’t a great fit.

    in reply to: Constant Regrets #56337
    Kelly
    Participant

    Hugs to you both. I don’t mean to suggest a book will heal all that ails you, but I found the book “Rebuilding: When Your Relationship Ends” by Bruce Fisher to be very helpful in recovering from a painful split.

    Consider that the pains you are feeling are growing pains, helping you to develop into a stronger, healthier, happier you. I know how hard it is, but you will get through this.

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