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  • #225377

    Lisa
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    You can stand women who speak their minds and you put them in all kinds of positions where they have to fight to survive but you will never be able to say you made it on your own. No matter how much people put you on a pedestal…deep down inside you know that.

    You may be able to hurt a lot of other women while you stand in your position but some women will defy you and they are the women you hate the most. You can’t destroy them and that gets on your nerves. Those women remind you that you can’t make it on your own. You need a man to prop you up.

     

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    #225395

    anita
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    Dear Lisa:

    You made it on your own. Other women have made it on their own, some providing the necessities not only for themselves but for their children. They did it without men, without the financial help from men.

    You pointed to the fact again and again that you are the only woman in the world who has not had a relationship with a man. But it is not true, there are a few others. But within the many who had relationships with men, many millions did not benefit financially from such relationships. Many did not benefit in any way, long term, none whatsoever.

    anita

    #225425

    Lisa
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    Right and I am taking the liberty of speaking for them but they do not outnumber women who only think well of men knowing doing so gets them something in return.

    #225485

    anita
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    Dear Lisa:

    I watched TV series such as Dallas and Dynasty, popular at my time as a teenager, and those movies so well portray wealthy men and women using them for money, living in great luxury. Did you watch Dallas and Dynasty? And if you did, did you feel at all a desire to be like those women, to attract and trap a very rich man with sex so to live in material luxury?

    anita

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    #225495

    Lisa
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    Absolutely not. Many things have changed for the good but one thing that has not turned out well is manipulative bullies have unprecedented freedom to walk all over others with no pressure of accountability.

    If you connive to cheat a fair system you are a hero today and if you fight to win through an unfair system you are hated.

    I have never wanted anything more in my life than to be accepted without playing a role. The only material thing I have ever really wanted was my own home. Just my own space where I do not have to answer to anyone and especially where NO ONE can tell me I am not wanted.  I have never had my own home.

    I was never appreciated for my mind and it angers me that shallow stupid women receive awards for being manipulative, shallow and stupid and I struggle just to survive.

    They have the NERVE to criticise people that struggle that just want a decent living for WORKING when they spend their time manipulating someone to buy them gifts give them what they want like they are the boss. They elect misogynists from both sides. They only get what they want by sleeping with someone and when he wants to move on he just recycles her anyway.

    It’s all a bunch nonsense and as a thinking person as their are very few of us left especially in this country, I feel as I have no voice.

    I do have and have had a voice though except it has not been mine.

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    #225505

    anita
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    Dear Lisa:

    I didn’t understand your last line: “I do have and have had a voice though except it has not been mine“- what do you mean by the italicized?

    anita

    #225509

    Lisa
    Participant

    I want to also add that the reason those shows were popular is because that is what most women are even if it is on a smaller scale. They demand Valentine gifts when men who clearly shop once a year and clearly do not want to be in a store buying their “payment” which is classier than money I guess for what they want. Just because they don’t have all the material things those tv charactors have doesn’t mean they don’t do the very same manipulative things. Weddings would be “old fashioned” if they didn’t promise money or Princess of the day. Everything that just contains meaning is “old fashioned.”

    Why should they get their spouse’s medical insurance and then vote to have it taken away from struggling single people?? “Who do they think they are?” Obviously someone told them how amazing they were and the whole world should just step aside especially women who they view as lesser.

    The only voice I have had since I was a teenager was Madonna.

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    #225519

    anita
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    Dear Lisa:

    I understand: Madonna spoke for you, she was your voice. It is a good thing there was one person in the whole wide world who was your voice. Without that voice, you would have had none. Or would you, I mean, you do have your own voice, now, don’t you, it is not identical to any other person’s, is it?

    In your message before last you expressed your aversion to “manipulative bullies… (who) walk all over others with no pressure of accountability”, to “unfair system”, and to “playing a role”, the manipulative female role you referred to many times.

    You expressed your desire to have your own home, your own space where you don’t have to answer to anyone and where “NO ONE can tell me I am not wanted”. You wrote: “I have never had my own home”. This means you never experienced having your own space where you don’t have to answer to anyone. And you never experienced living in a place where you were wanted.

    Regarding your recent post: it is amazing to me as well, that the exchange of sex for material goods outside the straightforward prostitution business is encouraged by much of the entertainment business (TV series Dallas and Dynasty are two examples) as well as other businesses such as jewelry, chocolate, weddings, and many more.

    It is painful to live being viewed “as lesser”, it brings about rage, doesn’t it. Has in my case. And it is so very lonely to not be wanted anywhere.

    anita

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    #225605

    Lisa
    Participant

    Anita I want to thank you again for your support and thoughts.

     

    Lisa

    #225665

    anita
    Participant

    You are very welcome, Lisa. Anytime.

    anita

    #237971

    Lisa
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    Success is the best way to deal with injustice and unfairness. I support strong women who against opposition became successful.

    I’m really angry right now and I need to lean on these women because you convinced me I was/am nothing but you couldn’t and you can’t do it to them. Deal with it.

    One day women all women are going to be required to be independent. Does that scare you?

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    #237979

    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lisa:

    You didn’t address your recent post to me, so I will not assume you are asking me specifically.

    Welcome back to your thread!

    anita

    #237983

    Lisa
    Participant

    I am addressing men and women who wittingly and unwittingly help men who hate certain women. If you think that is a fairy tale look around to politics, music, film, The ones who break through of, “what can I do for you to accept me?”line are the most vilified.

    #237993

    anita
    Participant

    Dear  Lisa:

    I hope your recent message reaches those “men and  women who wittingly and unwittingly help men who hate certain women”, and that those men and  women will answer your challenge as you stated it in your post before last:

    “One  day women all women are  going to be required to be independent. Does that scare  you?”

    If you post again,  maybe elaborate  on your challenge, I will not answer so that your name  will appear on the list of threads which may invite others who may answer your challenge.

    anita

    #238011

    Lisa
    Participant

    The biggest problem is that even some of the most liberal minded people do not acknowledge the existence of a problem because they have embraced the game wholeheartedly and that is how they survive. They are no one to admire but at least some admit to playing the game. They are usually conservative minded and proud of their game playing. Like it’s an accomplishment. No matter what beliefs one has all hate strong women…just for different reasons. I am not an actress and I will not play a role for payment.

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