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  • #208285
    Victoria
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    My boyfriend and I have been together for about seven months now and I’m learning that he get’s stubborn about things that are “normal” to him that I find unacceptable or I’m not comfortable with or with anything really,  he just wont say he’ll compromise so we’re both happy and comfortable and he won’t talk about anything, he just fights me, pushes me away and becomes stubborn. He says he loves me, wants to marry and have kids but he wont act like an adult and talk to me, settle things or compromise anything. It’s always his way, especially if he says its normal. I had to fight him to stop looking at other girls nudes on instagram just because it was “normal” for him, for all men to do in relationships – obviously I disagreed and think that’s absolutely unacceptable. We were recently talking about bucks and hens nights, I told him I wanted to set boundaries for having a stripper because I’m uncomfortable with a lot of what goes on, I don’t want him to go to far and he wont say that he wont; he just tells me its normal for him and always will be – like he has no respect for me and boundaries.

    I don’t know what to do to get him to talk to me, to talk like an adult and settle things or come to a compromise. I’m scared we’ll break up if he doesn’t start doing this.

    #208305
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Victoria,

    You certainly can’t settle down and have a family with a guy who behaves like this. How would you compromise? Porn is OK as long as you don’t know about it? What is there to talk about? He’s disrespecting you and doesn’t care.

    Tell him that you won’t put up with nudes on Instagram, strippers, or anything of that ilk. That it’s “normal” for you, and that “all women put their foot down on smut”. Then… LEAVE! Don’t look back. It’s your way or the highway for once!

    Maybe next year when he’s bored of this life or matures you can date him again on a trial basis.

    Good Luck!

    Inky

    #208313
    Tasha
    Participant

    Hi Victoria,

    Inky made several good points.  I will only say that compromise is one thing but self preservation is a choice.  Remember that you have a choice to stay or go if you feel disrespected.  “Hoping” someone will change by sticking around (possibly having a family with them) can only make you miserable.     Once you stand firm on how you wanted to be treated, it’s easier to walk away from those who won’t step up to the plate.

    Godspeed.

     

    #208321
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi,

    I wasn’t very clear, he has stopped doing that and it’s no longer an issue. I told him I’m not comfortable with having a stripper for his bucks night, he basically said no because it’s normal and fun. I tried to compromise with what I’m comfortable with and he won’t respond or agree. So now I’m worried he’ll always act like this when something comes up, big or small, because he acted the same way about Instagram and other things and I don’t know what to do. I’m going to try and talk to him about it. Other than this he’s perfect.

    #208335
    Mark
    Participant

    Victoria,

    …he won’t talk about anything, he just fights me, pushes me away and becomes stubborn.
    … he wont act like an adult and talk to me, settle things or compromise anything. It’s always his way…
    …Other than this he’s perfect.

    I invite you to read what you wrote and how you would advise a girlfriend who has said these things.

    I wonder what sort of relationship you want with someone who won’t act like an adult.

    Mark

    #208337
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    Well I don’t know what I’d tell her, especially because he won’t talk to her. Anything that isn’t a fun topic, about our days or current life seems to be off limits. I know he loves me and everything and he treats me so well, it’s just this one thing. He just shuts down, becomes evasive and won’t respond to me and basically tells me it’s either normal, to get over it and to not feel or think that way. I’m getting worried he’ll leave me because I’m annoying him too much, even though he’s the one who has the problem. I’m trying to talk to him now but he hasn’t responded, he stopped talking to me last night and is now at work. I feel like I just tell him how I feel all the time and what I’m worried about but I’m just talking to a brick wall, he barely tells me how he’s feeling about anything. Last night he told me was miserable because he has to be so careful as to not upset me but I don’t know how he’s doing that because he’s seemed normal to me. I didn’t even know he wasn’t happy.

    #208341
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Victoria,

    You said, “I tried to compromise with what I’m comfortable with and he won’t respond or agree. So now I’m worried he’ll always act like this when something comes up, big or small, because he acted the same way about Instagram and other things.”

    Then you say, other than that, he’s perfect.  That’s like saying the Titanic is perfect, other than that one big hole.

    Your boyfriend loves you enough to let you compromise in every situation. There is no give and take in this relationship, when it comes to the real issues.  Not to mention he won’t respond or talk about it with you.

    I would walk away.

    Airene

     

    #208343
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi Airene,

    We’re not all perfect and I don’t want to give up so soon, that’s haopened to me too many times. I don’t mind compromising on this if it does happen, I think it’d be fun to have a male stripper at my hens night. I’m just worried he’ll get out of control, touch her or she’ll touch him and he’ll do something I can’t forgive him for. The problem is that he won’t reasure me that won’t happen, the way he talks about how guys are makes me think this happen and he can’t seem to realise to ask me why I’m uncomfortable about something and tell me it won’t be like that. But I’ve told him now and he just hasn’t replied and I’ve told him I don’t want to change either and don’t want to have to allow and live with things I’m not comfortable with. We haven’t been together that long, I don’t want to leave him without trying to work things out first.

    #208345
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Victoria,

    I just saw your most recent post, about him not wanting to upset you.

    My thought is that he might think he loves you and wants to marry you and have kids.  But his maturity level isn’t up to par with doing all of that.  If you think it’s hard talking to him now, and compromising, think about how difficult it will be when he’s being non-commital about something AND you have 3 kids to get fed, dressed and out the door.  He has to be on board with you before you even get to the aisle!

    You have a guy who is not into talking about feelings (a lot of guys are this way).  As unwilling as he is to compromise, he has at least told you his position on some of the things that bother you – the stripper for bucks night…he considers this normal and fun.  Nothing you say or do will change his mind.  He won’t talk about it (why?) and he won’t change (he wants to have fun.)

    Your place in all of this is deciding what YOU are willing to tolerate.

    He probably does love you – in his way – but probably not in the way you want and need to be loved.

    Airene

    #208347
    Victoria
    Participant

    Airene,

    that’s why I want to work things out now, so they don’t go to shit later. He does love me, he told me he wants kids and to get married first. He is mature a lot of the time and helps me through things that aren’t to do with him. A stripper would be fun, I have a lot of trust issues because I’ve been treated badly in the past and need to know I can trust him around other naked women and that he won’t cross a boundary but he just doesn’t reasure me and every time I try to talk about something that might even hint at him changing or not getting something that’s “normal” to him he shuts down and I need and want to fix that and if he won’t I’ll consider my options after that. I don’t want to break up over a hypothetical bucks night and marriage. This isn’t really about the stripper, it’s more about how he responds to me. He’s told me he feels like I want him to change, be something he’s not and to basically castrate him and censor him from other women and I told him that isn’t true but he doesn’t realise that I don’t want to change either, that I don’t want to live him doing things I can’t agree with and doesn’t realise that talking about things hypothetical or real or about us is normal and I just don’t know why he’s always evasive but I want it to stop.

    #208369
    Mark
    Participant

    Victoria,
    I am sorry I did not make myself clear. I was giving a hypothetical. Basically I was telling you to give yourself advice.
    Let me be more direct. You say he treats you well. How is shutting down, being evasive, and not talking to you when there are important issues to discuss treating you well?

    What kind of close relationship is it when you are feeling that you are talking to a brick wall or not knowing how he feels?
    How you describe your relationship is one that I care not to be in. I want to have one that we are peers, i.e. both adults. You have described him not being able to talk like an adult and not respecting you.

    Mark

    #208409
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Victoria:

    A couple of things: first, you wrote that you “need to know I can trust him around other naked women and that he won’t cross a boundary”- to trust a young (or old) heterosexual man around naked women, attractive young women strippers, while drinking some alcohol… may be like trusting me to spend a whole night hungry with a pizza, dough freshly baked, smell intoxicating, cheese melted, so inviting, mouth watering; to trust me to look at it and not eat it. I don’t think I can do that.

    Second thing, regarding what is unacceptable to you about his behavior in any area, if it is something you feel strongly about, something you believe is reasonable for him to accommodate, better assert yourself on the matter, present it to him as a deal breaker and be prepared to end the relationship as soon as you realize he is not respecting your assertion. Otherwise, a battle has ensued, lots of nagging on your part, withdrawal on his part.. not a good thing.

    anita

    #208467
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Victoria,

    Where you say this:

    “This isn’t really about the stripper, it’s more about how he responds to me. He’s told me he feels like I want him to change, be something he’s not…but he doesn’t realise that I don’t want to change either…….I just don’t know why he’s always evasive but I want it to stop.”

    I know that relationships are complicated so I hope it doesn’t sound like I’m over simplifying the issue.  I understand you and your boyfriend have some good things going.  What you have described here sounds to me like you want a promise from your boyfriend that he can’t or won’t deliver.  In a way, he is actually showing his integrity – he doesn’t want to commit to something he can’t or won’t do, because that would put him in the position of having to lie to you, and he doesn’t want to do that.     He also is not asking you to change, necessarily, or compromise your values and wishes.  All he is doing is saying “this is who and what I am.  Take it or leave it.”  When a person shows you who they are, believe them the first time.  He is showing you that – at this point in his life – this is what he is capable of.

    I think we all want assurance and guarantees that the people we love will love us as much or more, and try to make us happy.  Even if your boyfriend reacted the way you wanted him to (by giving you assurances and committing to the boundaries you set out for him), none of it is a guarantee.

    The fact that you feel he is evasive points to you not trusting him.  And relationships without trust are built on a foundation of sand.

    I might start by laying all of this out for him, expressing your concerns – not in the sense that you want him to change, but just telling him what your concerns are.  See if his response leaves you feeling secure or anxious.  I’d pay attention to that.

    Airene

     

    #208469
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi Anita and Airene,

    We’ve sorted everything out, come to an understanding. He explained the stripper better at his bucks night, it’s not going to be a sexual thing for him, just novelty, something fun/funny. So more awkward in reality. He’s insisting on touching her, despite my feelings about it – it’s hard not to consider that wrong when it’s normally considered wrong and cheating but he won’t take it too far and won’t see it as sexual. We only want to get married, it doesn’t mean we will. So I think I’m just going to drop it for now, if I can. And he’s going to try and communicate better, we both are.

     

    Thank you.

    #208471
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Victoria.

    anita

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