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  • #53041
    sandy
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    I find myself coming to this forum every month or so looking for feedback and support for issues that pop up in my life that are mostly centered around moving on after a breakup. I’ve gone through more phases of emotion than I could believe were possible after 7 months. In fact, just last week I was sure that I had completely moved on — a big thing since I was in the depths of despair just a couple of months ago.

    So tonight I’m writing because I’m wondering if I’ll have to keep my mind distracted for the rest of my life if I want to move on. I spent 6 months grieving, accepting, learning, understanding, growing and finally coming to the wonderful discovery that I can direct my mind to the things I know support me and help me to love myself. I’m also studying full-time, so that has helped me to gain confidence in my abilities, as well as keep my mind occupied.

    Interestingly, a breakdown of my physical body occurred in tandem with the time when I thought I had completely moved on. I’m kind of suffering now (physically), which has brought up all these feelings I felt through the years — mostly insecurity and an uncontrollable almost constant rumination of thoughts related to my former partner. I do a pretty good job of redirecting my attention, but the assault is almost non-stop. I know I need to accept these feelings and send them off with love, which I try to do, but it doesn’t seem to help. I always thought that my thinking could bring me physical ailments and now I’m kind of seeing them manifest, I think… ?

    So anyway, I’m wondering if anyone has had to deal with such feelings… if maybe my brain/mind is tending towards obsessive thoughts? I was diagnosed w/ADD in college years ago, but now try to steer away from that label/diagnosis. It just seems like constant work to maintain a life that is healthy and nurturing for myself. Is this normal? I am a cheerful and positive person who is very grateful for my life. Having my thoughts (my life) focused on myself, and not my former partner, is such a huge challenge.

    Help.

    • This topic was modified 10 years, 1 month ago by sandy.
    #53044
    The Ruminant
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    Sandy,

    Perhaps you could see the different shades in between total despair and completely moving on? You accumulate new experiences all the time and you can’t “unexperience” them. A painful event in your life will probably still feel painful in the future as well. The trick is to learn how to deal with the pain, not to make it go away completely.

    What also came to mind when reading your post was that since we do accumulate the experiences and the feelings and thoughts along with them, what happens to them? What if something happens that we’re simply not able to cope with at the time and we kind of push it aside, somewhere at the back of our minds. We know we need to deal with it at some point, but just can’t at that moment. Then more stuff comes in… It would be like filling a room with things and instead of dealing with them, you’ll toss them at the back of the room and soon you have a room filled with clutter and you still have to live in that room. You can’t wish all the stuff away, so you have to patiently deal with it all, and organize it. Taking one piece at a time and looking at it and acknowledging it and then placing it neatly where it belongs.

    A painful breakup was what caused me to start dealing with all of my past issues. This was 2…or is it already 3 years ago. It is a bittersweet thing for me, because I am so grateful for the events and the shattering, because it forced me to start a healing process for all the other stuff as well, which I had not dealt with before. Yet, it still makes me cry to think about the breakup. In my mind’s room, that particular thing is both cherished and a source of sadness, but it is still part of me. Sometimes I also think of it as a scar. A scar that proves what I’ve been through. I can never have a body without the scars again, but there is much beauty in the scars as well.

    #53064
    Chad
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    I think the Ruminant offers good advice. The person we are today is a product of our experiences yesterday. People say “live and learn” but exactly what did you learn? I think the lessons we learn about ourselves are more important than the lessons we learn about others.

    I like you had intense ruminating thoughts about my breakup. I analyzed every moment, every time I should have said you look beautiful, or I love you, or attempted to be more understanding or be the bigger person and I didnt. I eventually started looking at the bigger picture of the over all dysfunction of that relationship. I finally forgave myself in that, even if I had done all the things I didnt do. I couldnt help my ex solve the problems he brought into the relationship, as I didnt cause them, I cant change them, or control them. That is his job not mine.

    I began to look at my actions and take responsibility for my part. I realized the relationship as a whole wasnt a complete waste of time or failure because it was an opportunity to see more of who I am and what I am capable of. Some things I liked about myself and some things I do not. I hope this opportunity to examine myself will help in my next relationship. Which might be with someone Im better suited with. I wouldnt want to make the same mistakes twice.

    Rumination is hard, especially when they are negative thoughts. I suppose instead of using your energy to stop them. Simply redirect them to mean something positive. Like “I wouldnt be the person I am today without these experiences” or “It was necessary for my growth” I think what negative feelings we still have are simply from loneliness. For me I miss the companionship and the bond I felt to him the most. However, Im working on my relationship with myself, and know once I get me where I need to be, I will be better for someone else, and I will have that again one day.

    Dont get me wrong I still miss my ex very much. I love him and accepted him for all his flaws and faults. I will never forget his smile, and the adorable little noise he made when he thought something was cute. However, I try to be appreciative for what time we had together, and understand he gave me an opportunity to learn more about myself. In hopes what bad I experienced wont have been in vain, and will only me a stronger healthier person moving forward.

    #53084
    KK
    Participant

    Wow- I can sooo relate to what you are describing. I was in a 10 year relationship that had gone from passionate to toxic. We had repeated a cycle of breaking up and reuniting- but when the consequences of all that drama almost lost me my children (who could no longer enable the behavior and respect me for not taking care of myself)- I was able to make the final break.

    I knew logically and intellectually it was the right move- and I have a much happier life now- but I can still get stuck- and my head will be fillled for days with the obsessive thoughts and longing etc. When I am in this space, it is hard to separate what was real from what my fantasy was.

    I have tried to self-care in that I have removed myself from all unnecessary contact, our shared social circle, and have protected myself from hearing any info etc. The breakup was 2.5 yrs ago and we are both in relationships now- I know mine is 10 times healthier- but last week it seems that maybe she “stumbled” in her own way as I needed to relay to her some legal info (we still own a house together- that’s another story…..ugh) and she texted me back that she would look into it “once she returned from her vacation with new partner in Costa Rica”……and while I try not to assume anymore, it was not info I needed to know- and I guess I do wonder the motive. (I didn’t respond)

    I went into a bit of a tailspin- old anger flared, jealousy, etc…..and simultaneously I beat myself up terribly for even having the reaction and feelings. I began to overanalyze, question what was wrong with me blah blah…..and then I read the Buddha article today about just recognizing that feelings will come up- and not to berate myself when they do. I put way too much importance on them. I am human and I spent a decade of my life with this person…..and I may never be completely “indifferent” emotionally. It also doesn’t have to mean I must be “unhappy in my life”, “I am defective and hopeless”, “I should be further along” etc.

    I just am. and that’s not a bad thing…

    hugs- KK

    #53392
    gotye89
    Participant

    Hi Sandy, I can empathise.Please note that I have not really read what others have written but I hope to offer you a fresh perspective. A break up is a big thing and for you the time post break up has been a period of tremendous growth as well as an extremely long process. For you the advice I can give you is that you know what works for you – you know that you have to keep yourself busy and dare I suggest it but you must continue to keep on doing what serves you best. Life is also about continuous activity so in fact post your break up, you have actually led life the way it is supposed to be led, by keeping yourself busy, by keeping your mind occupied so that as you say your tendency to think obsessive thoughts does not overcome you. I also have most recently asked myself this question but in a different way – is life always only about keeping yourself busy and the answer I have come up with regard to this question is yes for this is the only way you have a chance to live your purpose so as to benefit others and indirectly yourself. Many have lived for others or so they think but in fact if they lived for others, somehow, somehow their own purpose was being fulfilled by helping out others. My point from this last sentence is to emphasise the fact that if you think keeping yourself busy is only helping you, you may be wrong as you keeping busy may be helping others, sometimes by just your presence. Life sometimes does not always provide answers but to this question about you finding yourself always trying to keep busy is a simple one to answer and the answer is yes, as life is about continuous change, you have no other option but to move along with it, which in your case manifests by keeping yourself busy. I hope this helps and a little background about how I can empathise is the fact that I too have gone through a lot of growth in an on-off relationship with someone and I feel the growth has allowed me to question a lot of my beliefs which have been embedded in me during my upbringing and so on and I am most grateful for the growth that I have experienced. So on that note, I would like to say is that as you have preserved in your self-growth process, I urge you to continue to allow yourself to grow and to keep your doubts about keeping yourself busy as being the only way to move on from your break up as a mystery of life as I believe keeping busy is sometimes the solution (for many situations) because it just is!

    #53442
    cherrymom
    Participant

    Wow, great thread everyone. I actually feel a little better after reading it… as I’m going through the beginning stages of letting go of a relationship myself that I had always hoped would turn into something more. Sometimes it’s just not a fit. Thank you all for everything you took the time to write, it’s an inspiration & gives me much hope.

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