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March 30, 2020 at 6:00 am #346142CBParticipant
So I receive a text to say from ex I’ve had to open all boxes today where did you pack folder from book case I ask what are you looking for reply. Does it matter not packed in any boxes not your problem don’t worry
I felt was so rude no further text I don’t deserve his frustration being taken out on me really upset my He keeps saying wants to be there for support but text this way
Can’t believe it’s come to this he’s been my best friends for all theses years
March 30, 2020 at 6:12 am #346146AnonymousGuestDear CB:
If he was your “best friend for all these years”, then he is angry at you now and he is no longer your friend at all.
Why did he get so angry at you, any ideas?
Did he ever complain to you about your behaviors while he lived with you.. did he ever say anything about being unhappy with you, feeing uncared for, neglected, mistreated in any way (examples: being called names, told that he is less than other men, being made to feel guilty, etc.)?
anita
March 30, 2020 at 6:30 am #346150CBParticipantI really don’t understand why hes angry with me he walked away he made the decision to leave, I thought we had a strong relationship over 27 years of course there were times we had disagreement and He suffers with low self worth something I’ve always told.him was wrong He was moody suffered low and high moods but that was part of him and I accepted that I don’t thing we ever mistreated each other this is why it’s all such a shock to me im.so heartbroken
March 30, 2020 at 6:43 am #346152AnonymousGuestDear CB:
Is it okay with you if I ask you more questions about him and the relationship of 27 years with him, or do you prefer to not be asked any such questions ?
I don’t want you to feel uncomfortable being asked questions you don’t want to be asked.
anita
March 30, 2020 at 7:01 am #346156CBParticipantAsk away I’m so thankful for this forum or is feel so alone out here
March 30, 2020 at 7:18 am #346158AnonymousGuestDear CB:
I am thankful for this forum too. For as long as it exists, I exist, and I have access to the internet, I will be here.
Questions then, take your time answering (and do feel free to not answer any question you don’t want to answer!):
1. How did it happen that a relationship started between the two of you, him being 15, legally a child, and you being 22, an adult? Did people (like his parents) disapprove of the relationship for this reason, and/or did the two of you keep the relationship a secret?
2. What were the disagreements between the two of you about, what were the topics of disagreements? How did you and him behave while disagreeing, how did he show his anger and how did you show your anger, and how were the disagreements resolved?
3. How did he express his low self worth, what did he say regarding his self worth?
4. “He was moody suffered low and high moods”- how did his low mood look/ sound like? How did his high moods look/sound like?
5. What did he say to you at times regarding his feelings for you, regarding what you mean to him?
anita
March 30, 2020 at 9:48 am #346184CBParticipantWe met through my brother who was same age we went around in group became friends for a number years but spent all time together no physical relationship until he was 17 no secrets parents were ok at time I don’t think they thought it was last as long as it did
Disagreement over 27 years were for many different reasons but if I focus on last 5 years where we hAve had added pressures of caring for our parents time together was hard never seen be the time of we argued we are both stubborn and could not speak for days keep out each others way of say hurtful things that you probably don’t mean
He’s has always had low self esteam say he’s not a very nice person and He doesn’t deserve to be happens could be very up or very down but that was just part of his personality in truth he was a very kind person that would do anything or anyone and socially a few drinks in he was life soul of the party but at home he could be the complete opposite
We as a couple were complete opposites I do not smoke or drink he loved a drink and smokes and also cannabis
He was also very vocal to me my fAmily and my friends that I was his world his queen he also mAde me feel loved and secure never ever did I think he did want to be with me
The night before he told me we had a family dinner watched a film sleeped in bed were physical then he told.me he wanted out ?? confused to say the least
March 30, 2020 at 10:23 am #346188AnonymousGuestDear CB:
More questions, if I may:
1. When the two of you did “say hurtful things that you probably don’t mean”- what hurtful things did you say to him and what hurtful things did he say to you?
2. When he did “say he’s not a very nice person and he doesn’t deserve”- did he ever tell you in what ways he is not a nice person?
3. What were his relationships with his mother like, and with his father- how did he behave around them, did he like them, or not.. did you like his parents more than he liked them?
anita
March 30, 2020 at 11:18 am #346046EishaParticipantHello,
This is first time I am expressing myself on the platform where no one knows me. I actually don’t feel like to share this with anyone I know since I feel ashamed about it.
So I will just start with what I am suffering now. 2.5 years back, I joined one organisation and fell in love with one guy(basically my colleague). I started feeling so attracted towards him. But when he came to know that I am into him, he started controlling me. Means I was not allowed to talk to any guys, not allowed to wear what I want, not allowed to go out with anyone else, not allowed to put makeup and not even allowed to keep my hairs open. But since I was in love I did all possible things.
After sometime he stopped my all media. and then for more than2 years, I didn’t used my any media like WhatsApp, fb etc. I stopped talking to my friends as well. And there was one guy in my office whom I referred as a “Cool guy” and from that moment he made me stop talking to that guy. One day he started abusing me taking that guy’s name and slapped me for the very first time after 6 months relationship. And twisted all the fingers and hurted me so much. next day I wasn’t even able to comb my hair. and then he apologised. and since I was in love, I just forgive me. but from that day, he literally used to slap me for eveyr single reason, then he started beating me on roads, started using abusive words for me and my mother and my entire family. But I still tried to understand him and always handled him.
But he never really valued my presence or emotions. but I loved him like anything and I still do. but now he just got engaged to someone without even telling me. and I am just totally broken and I don’t understand what to do. I want to forget him since all he has done is just given me pain. but I cant move on and I am stuck there. When I came to know, I literally thought of suicide but I couldn’t do since I have my family to look after and I don’t wanna disappoint them for such a guy. my mind knows that I don’t deserve tears because of this guy but my stupid heart is not accepting the fact and I cry like baby every single night juts looking at our old pictures since we have also spent some great time together. I need to move on from this situation and I am trying every possible thing. but I cant.
March 30, 2020 at 6:10 pm #346318AnonymousGuestDear Eisha:
I just noticed that you posted here, in another member’s thread. Can you start your own thread: scroll to the top and click FORUMS, next click RELATIONSHIPS, then scroll down to the empty box, enter the title of your thread and inside the big box (copy and)paste the post the above post. I am looking forward to reply to you there!
anita
March 31, 2020 at 2:34 am #346350CBParticipantIn an argument we both would just say things such as we’re done with each other or the other was being Silk and over reacting but it was never in a way that made me feel it was true always felt out of frustration for the situation we always resolved it and apologies came and we made up
He would say he wasnt very nice as most of the disagreement came from his moodiness he would say I deserve better and that he really didn’t like himself
His Mum and Dad divorced but very close neither met other people so we alwAys got together as a family but they were not conventional his dad has mental health issues and need a lot looking after so my ex didn’t really have the normal farther son relationship he was the adult in that on His Mum very hard lady but deep but in recent years has dementia so again we became carer He is an amazing son does all he can for his parents but still has a lot of guilt thinks he should do more
March 31, 2020 at 7:20 am #346372AnonymousGuestDear CB:
Having studied your answers to my questions in your recent two posts, this is my best understanding (I will be adding quotes from what you wrote with minor spelling and grammatical corrections so to make it clearer):
You wrote about the night before he told you that he is leaving you: “The night before he told me, we had a family dinner, watched a film, slept in bed, were physical, then he told me he wanted out?? Confused to say the least”-
– he has been wanting out for months but he continued to have dinner with you, watch films, sleep with you for all those months. So that particular night- he did all the same things that he did for months of wanting out, or considering getting out of the relationship.
It is not that he was fine with the relationship all the months prior to that particular night, but something happened in between the time he fell asleep that last night and the time he woke up the next morning. The thoughts and feelings about leaving you were months old. Maybe they were there for years, on and off.
“We argued, we are both stubborn and could not speak for days, keep out of each other’s way, or say hurtful things that we probably didn’t mean.. We always resolved it and apologies came, and we made up”-
– because he was “a very up or very down” person, and “socially, after a few drinks he was the life of the party, but at home he could be the complete opposite”, and “We as a couple were complete opposites: I do not smoke or drink; he loved a drink and smokes and also cannabis”, I don’t think that he perceived the arguments you had, and the apologies afterwards in the same way that you did. When the two of you stayed out of each other’s way for days following an argument, he was probably way more upset than you were, being “very down”.
When you exchanged apologies, maybe the issue was closed for you, but not for him. His anger, his dissatisfaction lingered. He didn’t let go and move on like you did.
“In an argument, we both would just say things such as we’re done with each other, or the other was being silly, and over-reacting, but it was never in a way that made me feel it was true”- never in a way that made you feel that it was true, but at times, it was true for him, he felt that it was true.
“He is very up or very down but that was just part of his personality”- for you his mood changes was something that maybe he was born with, no connection to his satisfaction or dissatisfaction with his life. But when he was very up, he was very satisfied with his life, and when he was very down, he was very dissatisfied with his life.
“His Mum and Dad divorced but they were very close, neither met other people”- if they were very close, they wouldn’t have gotten divorced. The fact that they didn’t date, or end up with others doesn’t mean that they still loved each other. (It could mean that they had such a bad marriage that they didn’t want to ever get married again).
Their son knew of the true nature of their marriage, he experienced it, and it was not a good marriage.
“His dad has mental issues.. so my ex didn’t really have the normal father-son relationship; my ex was the adult in that (relationship)”-
– it is a great burden for a child to take on the adult role in his family. It causes a child to feel “very down”. This kind of burden extends into adulthood, and it is probably why he was very down all these years, needing alcohol and cannabis to free himself temporarily from that burden, to lighten up, and to be “very up” and “the life of the party”.
“His Mum was a very hard lady”- her son (your ex) felt heavy with his burden, and had no softness to rest in. He didn’t have the opportunity to put down his heavy burden and rest in softness.
“He is an amazing son, he does all he can for his parents, but still has a lot of guilt and thinks he should do more”- he does so much for his parents not because he feels positively about them, but because he feels guilty. Guilt is a negative feeling, it weights a person down, it’s a burden.
As a child he felt very inadequate in his home, not the adequately “adult” that he thought he should be. Fast forward, he still feels inadequate: “He has always had low self esteem, says he’s not a very nice person, and that he doesn’t deserve to be happy”, “he would say I deserve better, and that he really didn’t like himself”-
– Inadequate at home with his parents; inadequate with you, inadequate overall. Not satisfactory to others-this is in the core of his dissatisfaction in life. This is the burden that keeps him in his “very low” moods. Plus, he is angry, angry at his parents (this is why he thinks that he is “not a very nice person”- children feel guilty for feeling angry at their parents). He is also angry at you, and that’s why he left you and didn’t look back, and why he is currently keeping you at arms’ length, having been rude to you yesterday in that texting.
What he needs is to free himself from the burden of feeling that he has to take care of his parents, a burden still heavy in the beginning of his fifth decade of life. I imagine that you thought that you were helping him by taking care of his parents, but you did the opposite, maintaining his burden. This is probably why the disagreements between the two of you had to do with his parents (“Disagreements.. last 5 years were about the added pressure of caring for our parents”).
anita
March 31, 2020 at 10:57 am #346406CBParticipantYes I can relate to some of your comments
I think I need to accept for whatever reason it’s over and try and move forward
I’m really hurting myself I just turn it over and over in my mind and I’m making myself ill . I want to show my son that I’m a proud women that’s happy in my own skin x
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March 31, 2020 at 1:51 pm #346440AnonymousGuestDear CB:
To “accept for whatever reason it’s over and try to move forward”, you will need to somehow stop turning the same thoughts over and over in your mind and making yourself ill. Time to practice mindfulness exercises (available online, maybe on the home page of this website under Blogs), maybe get into a yoga routine that will be gentle on your back, some aerobic exercise, so to get your mind off the same-old-same-old thoughts.
“I want to show my son that I’m a proud woman that’s happy in my own skin”- you can’t show him that you are happy in your own skin when you are not happy in your own skin, but you can show him that you are taking the right actions toward becoming comfortable in your own skin. If he sees you practicing mindfulness exercises, doing yoga, some aerobic exercise, following a daily routine that works for you, then he will see that you are a strong woman.
To be a strong woman does not mean to feel happy (although that would be nice); it means to take the right actions on a daily basis, day after day, toward feeling better in the future.
anita
April 1, 2020 at 3:09 am #346526CBParticipantI have been looking mindfulness and will continue to and try and action some positive thinking
I’m walking everyday and trying to do Pilates so again trying to be positive I see I can not control his actions s only how I react to them
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