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  • #454537
    anita
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    No way . a THERAPIST told you to STOP anything.. to stop intellectualizing, she said: “Stop it”?

    #454538
    anita
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    I mean, I could have said that to you for free, but it doesn’t take years and years of schooling and a professional diploma to know that telling an overthinker to STOP it is the silliest thing you can say 😔

    #454546
    anita
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    Good morning, Confused:

    You wrote yesterday, “I intellectualize everything, so I don’t have to feel them.”-

    Intellectualization means * analyzing emotions instead of experiencing them, * turning feelings into thoughts, * staying in the head to avoid the heart, and * using logic to avoid vulnerability. Emotions feel unsafe; thinking feels safer. It’s a common defense mechanism, a survival strategy. But it also blocks emotional processing and healing.

    “I intellectualize everything… therapist pointed it out too, told me to stop it.”-

    If the therapist literally said, “stop it,” that would be poor practice. A competent therapist would not simply say “stop it.”

    Telling someone with an overthinking or intellectualizing pattern to “stop” is oversimplified, ineffective, dismissive of how the brain actually works, and likely to increase shame rather than help.

    A good therapist would help someone notice the pattern, understand why it happens, learn alternative ways to regulate, and build tolerance for feelings.

    But… (and you can tell me if it’s true, Confused), you may not have quoted the therapist accurately. For example, a therapist might say: “Let’s try to stay with the feeling instead of analyzing it.”, “See if you can pause the analysis and check in with your body.”, “Try not to intellectualize everything — let’s explore the emotion underneath.”

    And you might have translated that internally as: “She told me to stop it.” (especially in a moment when you feel frustrated with yourself).

    Or the therapist may have been using a quick phrase like “Catch yourself when you start intellectualizing.”, meaning “Let’s interrupt the pattern and try something different.”. But he/ she (if competent) would never mean: “Just stop overthinking. Problem solved.”

    Your thoughts (or better 🙂 your feelings about this)?

    🤍 Anita

    #454547
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    I might have used the meaning of her words haha. She asked me “why am i doing this, how is it benefitting me (if it is) and what is the purpose behind it” so i understood that she meant i have to stop it. She didnt just say “stop it”, but she does point it out when i do that and she says “now u are doing it again”

    #454548
    anita
    Participant

    Oh, so, you felt the pressure to “stop it” and projected it to her? In other words, you thought/ felt “Stop It” and you sort of heard her say it?

    #454552
    Confused
    Participant

    Also, today i visited a psychiatrist for evaluation, i described the situation and he told me that he doesn’t think i have anything that needs meds, just some compulsions, that perhaps might need something mild for a while if they persist, not ADHD or smth.I told him how i intellectualize everything in my life (mainly feelings), which is an avoidance mechanic in order for me to avoid feeling the negatives. He said that i overgive in the relationships to get the other person to like me (so they wont leave me/hurt me or have anything bad to accuse me of -a tad of narcissicm there but its normal-) and when its time for me to “prove” something or things get real, i find myself deep in a situation that i dont know how i got there, so i get anxious that i will “hurt” the other person, or i will seem like the bad guy and i freeze from anxiety, which leads again to hurting the other person and making me the bad guy, a self-fulfilling prophecy. (this is how i felt with her) But he also said that it’s because all my relationships were based on infatuation and i don’t know how to transition from that to the next phase, which is what’s probably happening with this girl now, but its more difficult because of the distance and the lack of physical contact.
    He said that my feelings are not gone, just covered by anxiety and that i dont let myself feel them, i am afraid of getting hurt.

    #454553
    Confused
    Participant

    [quote quote=454548]Oh, so, you felt the pressure to “stop it” and projected it to her? In other words, you thought/ felt “Stop It” and you sort of heard her say it?[/quote]
    Yes kinda like that. I know i have to stop it because it numbs me from feeling anything, but its hard. I know her asking me those questions will possibly lead to me trying to drop the overthinking because i will eventually let go of trying to control

    #454556
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    So, the psychiatrist prescribed something mild for you (“just some compulsions, that perhaps might need something mild for a while if they persist”)?

    “He said that my feelings are not gone, just covered by anxiety”- didn’t prescribe anything for anxiety, like an anti-depressant that alleviates anxiety?

    “I know I have to stop it (overthinking, intellectualizing) because it numbs me from feeling anything, but it’s hard”-

    The more you push or pressure yourself to stop it, the harder it’ll get. If you drop the internal pressure, it’d be so much easier for you.

    .. But better not pressure yourself to drop the pressure either 🙂

    #454558
    Confused
    Participant

    No no he said that IF the compulsions persist he could give me something mild if i want it, but he said that i dont need anything right now from what ive told him.

    He said that this feeling of “depression” probably comes because i havent found what i like doing in my life and it is repetitive.

    Its a weird situation because one thing drives the other.

    #454559
    anita
    Participant

    Hmm.. good thing, I suppose- he’s not a psychiatrist that rushes to prescribe meds. And seems that he has confidence in you that you can manage and recover without meds.

    #454566
    Confused
    Participant

    Yeah i guess its good.So now i have to see where my fear of closeness comes from.

    #454567
    Confused
    Participant

    Fear of intimacy* sorry

    #454570
    anita
    Participant

    I think that it’s encouraging that the psychiatrist didn’t see a need for meds. To me, it means that your mental state is not so bad compared to many people the psychiatrist sees. And that comes from a professional 👍

    As to where your fear of intimacy comes from, maybe a little writing ✍️ exercise can help?

    You may want to write: “I am afraid that (or of)___”, fill in with whatever comes to mind spontaneously, before thinking.

    It may work; it may not. And that’s okay. No pressure is key ☺️

    🤍 Anita

    #454579
    Thomas168
    Participant

    For me, fear of intimacy is more like having little trust. Cause if you trust this person in front of you then you would not have fear. Rather you would enjoy the moment. Yes, some people do use the intellect to learn to understand the situation. But, it all comes down to learning to trust and be confident in that trust. To feel good in the moment and go with the feeling. Let go the thoughts as the thoughts have come and gone. Don’t let the fear rule. Sorry, just my two cents.

    #454591
    Confused
    Participant

    @anita

    Yes it gave me a relief (kinda) that he said that. Also that he suggested i dont need parallel therapy (him and the other therapist im seeing) and i should keep seeing the other one. (the psychologist with the IFS knowledge)

    Hmm..I think many words can fit into that.. engulfment/disappointing/responsibility


    @thomas

    I think i only trust people in superficial things (like cheating, because i cant control it) but idk about the rest. I tend to only use my intellect to read situations and interactions and i thought this was me being “emotionally intelligent” haha. I don’t wanna let it rule but i need to learn how to identify it. Thank you for your reply 🙂

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