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  • #454788
    Roberta
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    Dear Confused

    Sometimes our dreams are a way of processing the stuff we/life has been inputted into our minds often in the last 24hrs. therefore the more you think about her/situation the greater the chance a part of that will play out in your dream scape.
    Sometimes I dream that my ex-husband survived his boat sinking & I wake up happy other times I dream of his death & I wake up with the physical feeling of grief in my heart even though the accident was 25 years ago.
    Lucid dreaming & dream yoga are quite interesting topics to mull over.
    Kind regards & sweet dreams
    Roberta

    #454789
    anita
    Participant

    Good morning, Confused 🙂

    In regard to “something is missing/not right”-

    You mentioned OCD and depression a few times, beginning in your very first post here (“I have started therapy with someone that specializes in ocd/depression”, Dec 19).

    It’s common that people with OCD (I was one) describe a strong internal tension like: ‘This isn’t complete.’ ‘This doesn’t feel right.’ ‘I need to fix this.’, ‘Something is off and I can’t relax.’

    The feeling itself — “something is missing/not right” — can appear in other emotional states, such as in anxiety and depression. But in OCD, the “not right” sensation is usually followed by a strong urge to fix it, such as checking, re-reading, re-thinking, mentally reviewing, seeking reassurance, trying to get the ‘perfect’ feeling.

    The person feels driven to do something until the internal tension goes down. It’s not just discomfort — it’s pressure.

    People with OCD often know nothing is actually wrong, but the feeling is so strong that it overrides logic. It feels like: ‘I know this makes no sense, but I can’t shake it.’, I need to fix this even though I know it’s irrational.’ That mismatch — insight + compulsion — is very characteristic of OCD.

    In OCD, the goal is to get the right feeling, the person often tries to reach a sense of ‘rightness’, ‘completion’, ‘certainty’. It’s not about solving a real problem — it’s about chasing an internal sensation.

    In other contexts, people don’t chase a ‘perfect feeling.’ They’re just distressed or confused. The feeling (“something is missing/not right”) doesn’t create compulsions.

    In one sentence, in OCD, the “something is missing/not right” feeling creates a compulsive drive to fix or complete something, even when the person knows it doesn’t make sense. In depression, it is about loss of emotional connection, of an internal spark, a feeling of aliveness and missing the old (not depressed) self.

    It’s an internal emptiness without a compulsion/ drive to fix or complete something. The feeling doesn’t demand a specific mental or physical action. It’s uncomfortable, distressing, maybe confusing, but not compulsive.

    Maybe this distinction is helpful, what do you think, Confused?

    🤍 Anita

    #454790
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    As I was looking at your Dec 19, 2025 posts, I came across “In my case too, the relationship with my mother was very chaotic, violence and arguing constantly, throwing some awkward affection here and there, then rinse and repeat. I can’t remember if I was dissociating when I was a kid, definitely trying to escape in imaginary worlds and games though”-

    And it occurred to me how much we do have in common. I too escaped into imaginary worlds, daydreaming for hours every day, every chance I got. There were no computers back then, so my escape was strictly mental, imaginary.

    A member here in the forums (Robi1992), only 3 years older than you, also grew up in a chaotic home with an unpredictable, sometimes violent mother, and like you, he escaped into imaginary worlds and games: (Robi, Feb 18, 2024: “When I was about 11, my parents bought my first computer. I was hooked from the early beginning. I would spend an entire day and sometimes night playing games and watching films. The internet has become my playground. Finally, there was a place where I could hide, explore and fit in… For many years, as an adult, I would spend my days in front of the computer.”

    Children who grow up in chaotic homes like you, me and Robi, need an escape. But we can’t escape the consequences of growing up in chaotic homes. Neither the suffering nor the consequences end just because we become adults and live away from home. As adults, we have to take on the difficult but necessary healing process if we want to put an end to the negative consequences of growing up in chaos.

    🤍 Anita

    #454791
    anita
    Participant

    * edit: if we want to put an end to some of the negative consequences

    #454799
    Confused
    Participant

    @Roberta

    I am sorry for your loss. I thought of that and i know it plays a big role, its just that i can’t get her out of my mind and i don’t know why. The only way seems to just tell her to cut contact indefinitely but i know i’ll be still thinking about her constantly. I’ve done it with others in the past, didn’t work. So i am trying to find out what’s going on with me perhaps, idk.


    @anita

    Psychiatrist said he doesn’t think i’m depressed or something. He said im afraid to let go and surrender and he sees some OCD in me, not depression. But i don’t feel like it. I feel depressed with strong OCD tendencies that focus around this girl.

    What you’re trying to say is that i was using her as an escape?

    #454800
    anita
    Participant

    Interesting that you picked up on it. It crossed my mind that you used her as an escape during my last post to you, but then I thought, no, or at least not fully, that the two of you had meaningful exchanges. So, really, it’s not one thing OR another, it’s this and that and this other thing.

    #454802
    Confused
    Participant

    I saw it clearer because of how much different my life feels now, without the intense feelings for her, but now it’s at 0, i can’t find the inbetween, it’s always 100 or 0 with me, i think that’s the hard thing to learn, how to live in the middle and still enjoy it. I wouldn’t say i used her as an escape, rather she added joy/love/belonging, things that i crave.
    Yes we’ve had many meaningful exchanges and i refuse to believe that what i was feeling/doing were “fake” or something. I was feeling great while doing, legitimately caring and supporting her. I even felt it now at times but its like my brain says “no no, we dont do that here” and shuts it off.

    #454803
    Confused
    Participant

    Plus, i think if i’ve only been using her as an escape, i would be on my way to find the next “escape” and i wouldn’t think twice about her. I definitely felt a bond with her, especially up close. While i was with her, i felt the intense pull to hug her, kiss her, kiss her hand/forehead, squeeze her tightly in my arms, the kiss felt magnetic. Even at the airport while i was saying goodbye to her, i started crying but i quickly turned around. I don’t think all those were made up.

    #454804
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    I wasn’t thinking that you used her as an escape. I was thinking that the fact that it was a LDR was an escape from the stress a close physical proximity relationship would have caused.

    Coming to think 🤔 about it.. is the shutdown an escape in itself?

    Escape from feelings?

    I have no doubt the two of you had genuinely loving exchanges.

    🤔 (I love this emoji, lol) Anita

    #454805
    Confused
    Participant

    Therapist says that too. She asked me “do you think it’s a coincidence that you chose to bond so deeply over distance and not up close?”. But i feel like it just happened, i didn’t plan on wanting someone from another country, i was liking her more and more the better i was getting to know her. So,tbh i dont know really, i’ve never had issues with close proximity relationships, i was feeling fine. (the fears were still there but i wasnt running from it)

    How do u mean that? Why would i want to escape the feelings that i like so much?

    #454807
    anita
    Participant

    Not wanting to escape the feelings that you liked so much, I am thinking, but wanting (subconsciously) to escape feelings you wouldn’t like AT ALL, like what shows up on the other side of love (what you experienced as a child, the arguing, the violence)?

    Remember you said that you don’t remember if you dissociated as a child ((I think you said it early on, Dec 19)?

    Well, my guess is that you did like any child would, and you “forgot” how badly it felt when love (your mother’s affection) turned into arguing and violence.

    And what you’re trying to escape is not love and affection but what followed it, in your early, real-life experience.

    🤔 Anita

    #454808
    Confused
    Participant

    We’ve have mentioned it again here but how can i know if that’s the case? I wasn’t consciously “expecting” things to get to this point. I never do in my relationships because i hate it. The only feeling i can think of escaping is the feeling of “not being enough” for the other person and letting them down, since this is how i kind of felt (i think??) when she confessed her feelings, that “now i have to be extra careful not to hurt her. This and the feeling of “responsibility” which came after probably.

    I dont remember if i mentioned it again, but therapist said that “i have an interesting way of receiving love, or rather not receiving it at all”, i told her about the other day that 2 of my friends would refuse to meet if i wasn’t with them and they would cancel plans and how this enraged me and made me feel “responsible” for them like they’re little kids and need a parent. But she said that as a third person, she sees that as an act of love (from them-to me) that they want to include me in their plans and want to have a good time WITH me. So she said “maybe that’s what happened with the girl as soon as she expressed feelings?”. I had never thought of it this way, i immediately asked 2 people about my friends example and to my surprise, they said that they too would see it as a declaring of “love” or connection of sorts, rather than “responsibility” like i did. And i thought “wow, maybe the issue is me”. I also catastrophize and expect the worse every time, so that possibly numbs me bit by bit.

    #454809
    anita
    Participant

    “When she confessed her feelings, (you thought) “Now I have to be extra careful not to hurt her”-

    So, when she expressed love for you, you didn’t expand, as in, Let’s Love Each Other. Instead yo u contracted, as in, I Have 2 B Careful.

    Love= Hurt.

    That’s the kind of “love” you grew up with, the kind that hurts.. so, you connect the two?

    🤔 👀 😢 Anita

    #454810
    anita
    Participant

    Redefine “love”?

    Love is not arguing, fighting, causing hurt, being hurt

    Love is being calm, helping, not hurting.

    Too many people, too many mothers are not capable of loving. They have moments of feeling and expressing affection within a continuum of hurting and harming.

    The moments of affection are not love when harm keeps being perpetrated against the “loved one”

    #454811
    Confused
    Participant

    Damn,not really 🙁 . I still can’t connect the two. My exact thoughts when i read her poem were “Oh, what a wonderful, deep and affectionate move, she is lovely”, but then it followed “Why don’t i feel more? I SHOULD be feeling more, why am i not crazy/elated right now? Isn’t that what i wanted? I feel so bad if i don’t feel more about it right now, i am such a bad person, but now i have to be extra careful not to hurt her, damn she really IS into me?!” I think my train of thoughts was kinda like this. But then again, i have never felt excitement about receiving gifts/love since i was maybe 12? For example my friends surprised me with a pair of shoes on my birthday and i faked my excitement because i didn’t wanna seem like an asshole, but really i felt nothing, just appreciation and that’s all.

    I think i can’t receive love and i have to be okay with faking it at this point, i dont know. I don’t “believe” in unconditional love towards me, i’ve always learned to earn it.

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