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  • #384939
    Peter
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    A world which most people dislike me, create words and logic to shame me, to guilt me, a world where its so expensive to get any basic needs, a world where all of your actions has severe consequences, a world with no help, a world where nothing is free, a world with no one to trust, even your parents, a world where your whole personality and feelings and thoughts is determined by your parents and environment, a world set only for the majority of people.

    Justified if the ‘world’ spends that much time focused on a single person.

    I was just reading this days home blog – Free Yourself by Realizing How Unimportant You Are.  A person could read something like that and become angry, disappointed or free… probably dependent on the mood their in.

    A world set only for the majority of the people? I wonder how many people feel like that and suspect they are not in the  majority? My guess is the majority of people do. Such a world view is very self centered, or you centered. Maybe all world views are…

    Interesting how you define a lie. If someone tells you about something that works for them but you discover doesn’t for you… its a lie? A Lie that justifies anger where others might just be disappointed.

    I’ve never liked that word ‘Justification’ to be justified… its almost always followed by someone doing something horrible. It feels good for a time though… similar to righteousness.. nothing like the power in the feeling of being justifiably righteous… until one ends up alone. (not saying you are doing that)

    Perhaps you notice how the denial is so often the preface to the justification.” ― Christopher Hitchens

    “The talent for self-justification is surely the finest flower of human evolution, the greatest achievement of the human brain. When it comes to justifying actions, every human being acquires the intelligence of an Einstein, the imagination of a Shakespeare, and the subtlety of a Jesuit.” (sarcasm) ― Michael Foley, The Age Of Absurdity: Why Modern Life Makes It Hard To Be Happy

    The unteachable man is sentenced to being thought only by experience. The tragedy is he reaches nothing further than his own pain. – Criss Jami, Killosophy

    Haven’t read those books but like the titles – Killosophy – kinds of says it all in one word in the ‘Age of Absurdity

    Sorry still board

    #384942
    Murtaza
    Participant

    Justified if the ‘world’ spends that much time focused on a single person.

    Ok, its not justified, i still feel anger because of those facts, that i wanted help so much but there wasn’t anyone around, that i tried to suicide so many times, and no one cared, even my own family knows im suicidal, that my own “therapist” didn’t even answer me when i asked her for help when i tried to suicide, I BEGGED HER for help, couldn’t be more humiliating.

     

    Even if i wanted to not be angry, i will be anyway.

     

    A person could read something like that and become angry, disappointed or free

    Yes, a person that has been told a lie “you are important” then he would be either sad or angry, i never was important.

     

    A world set only for the majority of the people?

    A similar theme is when a person in a tribe would be little different, would develop some ideas that the tribe doesn’t agree on, they would immediately abonded him, the normal thing that the person would be angry at the tribe, don’t you think?

     

    At the end, they left him, to live by his own, with no help nor mercy, though sometimes he would meet some of the people in the tribe, and they start telling him what he should do, what the tribe teach them to do, and how he can live happier.

     

    Interesting how you define a lie

    When he was in the tribe, they told him to do this and that, he tried but they didn’t work, they blamed him, for not believing in the things they mentioned, for not trying too hard, you see, if they don’t work for you, its your fault, when they told him, they promised him of things, he wasted time and effort while didn’t see those things, isn’t that a lie? To premise of a reward when there isn’t one?

     

    wonder how many people feel like that and suspect they are not in the  majority?

    Most people (my observation) surrounder to the need to be accepted and liked and belonged, over thier different ideas and beliefs, over the truth.

     

    If someone tells you about something that works for them but you discover doesn’t for you… its a lie?

    Ok, teak doesn’t only tell me to go to therapy, she thinks 100% that is the good thing for me and that i should do it, she not only think that, she promise of “healing”, promise of a better life, happiness, imagine going all that trouble just to see that it didn’t work, how fool im gonna be? This isn’t new, i had this for so long and so many times

     

    If you think that im very convinced of my life choices and beliefs, you should’ve seen me before, i would do anything anyone would say, without proof, just to not feel gulity, just to prove them wrong, waste my time and effort for a person that said something, so many years wasted.

     

    I walked for 2 years, and they promised of things, they promised of better life, all i got was physical relaxation, i wasted 3 years in religion, doing everything by the book, every detail, every advice, and still felt miserable, 2 years on nofap, 1 year on “therapeutic” bullshit youtube videos

     

    Its just a matter of time, when i surrounder to the next person thought and actually try what they suggest, and make a fool of myself, im almost convinced by teak, but when i re think, when i re validate myself, i know she is wrong, but i got this tiny little voice in my head that tells me “what if she is right?” That made my life so much miserable in the past, “what if antidepressants were good?” and got through hell because of them, worst days on my shitty life because of them, and i continued anyway because “what if they are good?” Followd the rules “you need at least 1 month for full effect” then it was “3 months for the real effects” then “6 momths or a year for it to not experience the symptoms again” they promised me of no longer having the symptoms after enduring this shit for a year, doctors offline, and people experience and articles (online).

     

    I’ve never liked that word ‘Justification’ to be justified… its almost always followed by someone doing something horrible

    Very well said.

     

    Perhaps you notice how the denial is so often the preface to the justification.” ― Christopher Hitchens

    Hitchnes is one of the few people that i let influence me.

     

    Sorry still board

    Its alright, i liked that you replaied.

    #384956
    TeaK
    Participant

    Hi Murtaza,

     spent 1 year on “therapeutic” bullshit youtube videos

    well, if you’ve been watching videos about therapy and healing, and none of it resonated – and it probably didn’t since you call it “bullshit”- then indeed there is little chance that working with a therapist would help you.

    I am withdrawing now from this thread because there’s nothing I could possibly say that would make you even consider that your view of the problem is limited, and that the conclusions you’re making are harmful, rather than helpful. You strongly believe you are helping yourself – okay, fine, let it be. Goodbye Murtaza, I hope you do relax some of those strong convictions in the future – for your own good.

     

    #384957
    Murtaza
    Participant

    Goodbye teak, i really liked our conversation, at the end of it, in the few last post, i almost felt like you understood me, almost.

     

    Guess i was right, again, sadly.

     

    Thank you Teak, you are a very kind person, and im glad i had this conversation.

    #384959
    TeaK
    Participant

    Hi Murtaza,

    Goodbye teak, i really liked our conversation, at the end of it, in the few last post, i almost felt like you understood me, almost.

    But it was only almost. Because you decided that I cannot possibly understand you and that I must be wrong:

    im almost convinced by teak, but when i re think, when i re validate myself, i know she is wrong, but i got this tiny little voice in my head that tells me “what if she is right?” That made my life so much miserable in the past,

    At the moment, you are at the stage where you believe that everybody is wrong, and only you are right. Perhaps this will change in the future and you’ll reconsider, but for now, it is what it is. Goodbye Murtaza.

     

    #385009
    Peter
    Participant

    “I think by the time you’re grown you’re as happy as you’re goin to be. You’ll have good times and bad times, but in the end you’ll be about as happy as you was before. Or as unhappy. I’ve knowed people that just never did get the hang of it.” – No Country for Old Men

    Saw this quote today and thought of this thread. Funny how life works… enough to make you cry

    I hate that movie – No Country for Old Men – It was so depressing and I didn’t want to think their was any truth in it, while a part of me new their was. I didn’t like the truth shoved in my face that way.

    #385078
    Murtaza
    Participant

    Dear Peter, you just quoted one of my favorite movies, by one of my favorite director, and one of my favorite writer.
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>One of the reasons why I love the coian Brothers, is the big lebowski, a movie about unemployed man, in a time where the hustle culture and doing productive things were the highest value.</p>
     

    A similar theme to my life, iraq right now is like the US back in thier 50-70s.

     

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