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November 13, 2018 at 2:56 am #236615KkasxoParticipant
Shelby,
That is a very good analogy and makes perfect sense. I do believe that in order to heal from the trauma and pain associated with this event I will have to pick it apart bit by bit and allow all the feelings of loss, grief, sadness, betrayal, hurt, heart break just flow over me. It is going to be tough, I know this and I am hoping that my counselling sessions can help me with the process in the long run. I must admit, I am slightly anxious about starting this process on Thursday but nonetheless excited for the possible outcome – a healed and renewed Kammy.
I wish there wasn’t as much confusion and uncertainty around my situation – as there is with yours. You and your ex are both in quite a clear and transparent predicament, you have split up and that’s that. It doesn’t hurt any less but at least you have the clarity I very much long for. I believe the back and forth with my ex has made things so much worse for me but I cant help but believe in people – and this goes for all relationships in my life. I am the person who gives chance after chance to all in my life. I am almost too understanding, perks of being a Libra maybe? It is a constant battle between what I already know and what I want to believe – to see the good in everyone and everything.
I have learnt though that my ex (although he may not show this and is nowhere as bad as me) has also experienced a major shift to him personally following the whole ordeal. He has lost himself. It appears that even with all good intentions he is unable to succeed in doing good at the moment. Everything he does eventually backfires and although he is sincerely apologetic for this I of course get hurt in the process. It’s sad to see that he has lost himself like this but he is not mine to save, as I am not his to save. I have to save myself.
As I go through my therapy, I think I will really take into consideration perhaps starting medication for a little while. I have tried for so long to not go down that route as I hear it gets worse before it gets better and then it is extremely difficult coming off the medication (anti-depressants) but perhaps in this chapter of my life this is what I need. I don’t know, perhaps it is something to consider.
Enough about me! How are you feeling this morning? When is your presentation?!
November 13, 2018 at 3:58 am #236619ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Apologies, I just went to click reply to your last post and I clicked report by accident, my bad! Sorry! They really should keep those buttons far away from each other!
Counselling can definitely be daunting if you have never done it before, it might seem awkward opening up to a stranger. But remember two things, they are trained in exactly what you’re going through and they absolutely have NO judgement, they really don’t, not matter completely off the wall stuff you experience. Within 6 weeks, it can really help change your frame of mind.
I know things are clear on my ex’s part. He is done. I wish my betraying heart would allow me to accept that, but there are varying levels of denial and acceptance going on. But yes, the lack of contact or hope or decision making means I don’t really have a choice but to move on. There is nothing I can do to change it, despite me spending many many hours, trying to find a way to change it. It is what it is and I guess you do need that.
In terms of your ex, he probably is lost and that is why is so eager to get you back too as you are someone who loves him and grounds him and is there for him, but realistically he probably needs to work on that on his own. Two lost people together could become very confusing and tricky with the potential for more unintentional hurt.
I was worried about taking medication too and I was aware of the warnings etc. Every single person reacts differently, but I’ll give you mine, but I hasten to add again – everyone is different. I was put on a relatively low dose two years ago and was told it would take 2 weeks and I may get worse first. This is what happened for me – I was completely lost and scared and anxious. Within 8 days I started to feel better, it was like a black foggy cloud, where I believed I would never get better, started to lift and I could think more sensibly and normally. I never went ‘down’ first as many people had described, I slowly just started to get my normality back and started to feel better. Within a year I had halved that low dosage and while I experienced a small flutter more of anxiety – or rather more worry than anxiety, coming off it, with the help of counselling is not as hard as people say. Of course it depends on the particular drug, but it’s all about weaning, bit by bit, till it’s gone.
For me, work has really been distracting me today thankfully. I drove to the pool last night with my swim gear on and everything but I drove straight home again. My tummy just felt off and I couldn’t force myself. Maybe next time!
My presentation is next week and now it seems I have a total of 3 to do on 3 different days, eek!! I’m in denial about them at the moment, until the 11th hour! The pain is not as bad today but it could come again tomorrow as Im on a day off. Hopefully not.
November 13, 2018 at 4:38 am #236623KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I’m hoping that I get just that from my counselling sessions – a shift in my mindset and the strength to move past this horrible time in my life. Fingers crossed.
Also, yes that is exactly what I meant in terms of clarity. When me and my ex first split there was a lot of anger and resentment around the situation that we experienced, hence the complete shut down from his end and him being admant in his ways about our split. Although painful, it was a lot easier to move on as I had no choice but to do this. Since he was come back this is now proving a lot more difficult because although I know what I know, the heart wants what it wants. I never stopped loving him, not even for a moment and so naturally I am drawn straight back to him. But as you say, I am broken, he appears to be broken and lost in his ways too at this point in his life. I believe we could’ve helped one another had we just stuck this one out but instead we went our separate ways and this has now caused a big gap between us – a gap full of hurt, hurt and even more hurt. I know that his intentions are good and he is genuinely trying to do the best by us, by me. I suppose in a sense he feels obliged to help me out of this gloomy place because he was the one who caused it – but it appears that the no matter the good intentions he does somehow still manage to hurt me in the process.
Well done on at least driving to the swimming pool yesterday, that is a start in itself! The intention was there and that is all that matters, next time you might just walk through the door and the next you might actually go for a swim – progress. I actually took myself to the gym yesterday, despite being in pain and feeling shitty about myself. I didn’t have a great workout as I felt weak, but I did something and that is a start. I am hoping to do the same today. With the key word here being hope because all I want to do is finish work and go and climb in my bed and pour myself a strong drink!
I remember having to do presentations whilst at uni and I absolutely hated every moment of it. I have this thing where I laugh when I am nervous so I was never really good at them so I wish you luck!
Have you got much planned for the oncoming weekend? I’m already nervous about this! Me and the ex were supposed to be spending the weekend on our in depth conversation for closure and now I don’t think that is going ahead at all. So I guess I will end up in bed sulking like every other weekend!
November 13, 2018 at 5:34 am #236629ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Don’t worry, I know how you feel. I still love my ex and have not fallen out of love with him yet. I wish we could be back together but my rational side is more in control today and I realise we couldn’t be in two different places. It just doesn’t work that way. Actually you mentioned your ex and gettting a mortgage and I remember one evening my ex said to me he was thinking of putting a bid on a really cheap house in his area as an investment….just like that, without any consultation with me. Me there the whole time trying to plan our future and save and maybe we’d need a deposit at some point and he’s ready to drop a load of money on another property. He never even considered me. Now in fairness, when I expressed hurt and disappointment, he did see the error of his ways, but ultimately, although we were in a relationship and he feels he did mould and change a lot to be with me, he still hadn’t shifted the picture of the future he had in his head, when he was by himself.
Your ex wants a mortgage and has always wanted to get himself a house, but when you end up having a long term relationship, your plans have to change. That’s the nature of being in a couple. Buying a house for himself alone is just not practical now if he’s in a relationship. You have to live with someone before you make any life changing decisions.
I can’t believe you went to the gym yesterday, well done, that’s unreal. If I was in that level of pain, I’d be a mess, trembling on the floor, calling anyone and everyone! Good for you!
I have nothing planned for this weekend yet. God it’s exhausting. I know I must plan or I’m in trouble, but it would wear you down! I still think about my ex a lot, wondering is he happy having his weekends to himself again to watch footie or go to the pub with the lads and me barely hanging on by a thread, trying not to spend every moment in misery!
I’m hoping to go for a walk tonight if the weather is not too bad
November 13, 2018 at 6:36 am #236643KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I’m glad at least one of us is thinking rationally! My rational mind seems to have gone walkabout and hasn’t returned for the past two weeks or so! I must try to get it back somehow.
The issue with my ex is that he wants US to get a mortgage. He wants the house for US. Which would be great in a fantasy world where we have money flowing out of our pockets and we can afford it. I don’t deny that I would love to own my home one day, but I am somewhat more realistic about that being in the near future. I realise it takes a lot of savings. Although my ex did bring into conversation a little idea, similarly to your ex. He mentioned that actually he will continue saving and buy out his family home so his parents could live rent free etc and when they eventually pass it’ll go to him. I had to laugh at the idea.
So you are refusing to move with me? You’re not even remotely ready to get a mortgage of your own but you will work your ass off to save to buy out the family home that you will either continue living in for the rest of your life with your parents (but a single man because no woman will ever agree to that, especially with what his mother is like) or you will eventually go on to rent your own place because your mortgaged home is occupied by your parents. What an amazing plan.
I must admit, I do feel quite sick at the thought of him at the moment. Betrayal and resentment is really burning me at the moment. I’m so angry at all the pain that he’s caused me and continues to do so, whether intentionally or not.
Do you have any idea what you might do on the weekend? I too need to make some plans but I don’t even know where to start! I am such an outgoing person but the last few months I have found myself withdrawing from social situations. I feel even now if I made plans for the weekend I might flake in the last minute because I just can’t commit.
November 13, 2018 at 6:58 am #236651ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
It is a bit ridiculous in a way. You’re not wrong. I think my ex had loads of plans to live abroad and buy in really nice areas but will ultimately end up living at home with his parents or getting a house right beside them. He wasn’t willing to move forward and make a life of his own, independent of his family and what he saw as his responsibilities. Your ex needs to start living with you if ye want to have a future, that’s not a demand, it’s just natural process and what would make you happy and should make him happy too.
The resentment is a terrible thing to carry, but it’s definitely not something that can be worked out overnight, it’s going to take time and work, perhaps on your own, but trust me, I am confident you can process everything and move forward with your life. You are self aware enough to understand things, so that will be a big advantage when you start to process. It’s not right to be in such pain, it’s really not. Life is not meant to be about pain, it’s meant to be about happiness. Fulfillment and love.
I have no idea what to do for the weekend, I was thinking of getting my hair coloured but I’m undecided. I have zero interest, but it’s literally about passing the time. I’m the same as you, I definitely have no interest in socialising at the moment. It’s my biggest hurdle right now. I’m doing lots of things, but because so much of my socialising was with him, I haven’t disassociated it from him yet, so it’s too painful for me. Dammit, if we lived close, I genuinely would be quite happy to wear a onesie all weekend and eat crap and watch Netflix with you while we solve the world’s problem with men!!!
November 13, 2018 at 8:02 am #236675KkasxoParticipantWhat is wrong with these men like honestly? I’d be lying if I said I didn’t loose all hope! Even across this forum alone this is way too much of a reoccurring thing amongst men of all ages!
I do think it has an awful lot to do with the family itself. Are they quite close knit? Does he feel he has some sort of responsibilities towards them? Why is it his siblings are able to go on and live their lives but he isn’t? Or are they like this too?
I wish I could just switch off my feelings if I’m honest, wish we had like an on and off button!
November 13, 2018 at 9:26 am #236709ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Its a very common theme amongst men in our society. My ex’s family are close knit, they kind of are each other’s friends. However, my ex’s siblings all live abroad so he is the only one at home and I think a sense of duty and responsibility is something handed down through generations. He actually told me when we first split that he had X number of people in his life to care about, he couldn’t take on one extra person i.e me. Ridiculous I know.
But my therapist says it’s quite common for people to put their own lives on hold to live their life for their family. I know this is true, because this is what I did myself for many years. However I worked on it and through therapy I grew and overcame it and decided to pursue a happy life for myself. I think that’s the thing that bothers me most. Most people say, accept he is who he is and move on, he can’t change. But I changed – I did it – so why can’t he?! I know everyone is different but I just wish it worked out.
I would love a switch to flick so we could feel better, it’s so draining and frustrating.
Oh btw, have a listen to this. It might resonate with you.
http://insig.ht/gm_5312 – on the insight timer app
November 13, 2018 at 1:02 pm #236745KkasxoParticipantShelby,
It is beyond me how families are able to put that responsibilities on their children. I don’t know if that’s perhaps because of the structure of my family or cultural background but it is just not something that sits right with me.
My family have always encouraged me to go out into the real world and make a life of my own. Mainly so that they can see I’m doing okay and that they don’t have to worry about me. We all get to a certain age where it’s just normal to bloody grow up! But I suppose some people grow old but not grow up.
Its actually quite sad that your ex felt that due to the responsibilities around his family he felt he could care for another person in his life. Personally I think that’s quite damaging for him, but I suppose he knows no different if that’s how his family structure has always been.
Mark my words though, he will regret letting you go. Probably when it is far too late but he will think of you when he is old and sad and lonely and think of the wonderful woman who wanted nothing but a life with him and he will regret some of the choices he made in his life.
I’m going to have a listen to the link you sent just before bed! I’ll let you know how I get on 🙂
November 13, 2018 at 1:29 pm #236747ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
Thanks for saying that. Rejection is hard and it makes you question if you were good enough and to date, I still see the loss as mine. But today has been a day wherehe is more distant and fuzzy in my mind. I don’t know why that happens and different days bring different things.
I really liked his parents and if they ever thought they were holding him back they’d be devastated. But all of them don’t realise it was a subconscious thing, developed over years. I could only recognise it through the benefit of therapy. I never said to him what I learned about his situation in therapy. I felt that was up to him to figure out himself if he chose to.
Tonight im not as sad as other nights but I still want to contact him, still try and regain what I lost. Despite knowing it won’t make me happy, if there is no change. But there ya go, we can’t always control how we feel.
I hope you get something from Sarah Blondin. I find she speaks to me directly in some of her meditation podcasts.
I’m currently catching up on Strictly!
November 14, 2018 at 2:35 am #236787ShelbyvilleParticipantMorning!
Well it seems I have gone right back to the denial stage of grief again. Spent the whole night dreaming of being back with my ex. Even whenI was awake yesterday evening, I wondered if it was possible to get back together with him.
It’s so confusing, I don’t know why I can’t move on like other people.
November 14, 2018 at 3:31 am #236791KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I do think that denial and a lack of acceptance is a completely natural part of this whole process. They say it comes in waves. You had a good wave the last week or so where you was able to explain to yourself the rational reasons behind all this, perhaps this is just a wave of grief once more. I’m sure it’ll happen a few more times.
November 14, 2018 at 5:10 am #236797ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I guess that’s true, but sometimes I wonder am I going backwards. The dreams are cruel because then you wake up and feel lost all over again.
Im there wondering is it possible to talk to him and see where things are at, would it be worse for me, would it be possible. I’m off work today too which I guess doesn’t help.
How was your evening, did you make it to the gym?
November 14, 2018 at 6:05 am #236805KkasxoParticipantShelby,
No my dear you are not going backwards. In fact you are moving forward, through each of these phases, through the ups and downs, the good and the bad you are moving forward. It may not seem that way but you are! This is all part of the process.
If you are anything like me, I do believe you’ll struggle with the acceptance of it all because I always have more questions. I need complete and utter clarity at all times. Once something becomes clear it almost becomes a fact in my head and I am then methodically able to break it down into small sections that I need to deal with. Organisation freak I know but that is just how I manage things. If my questions remain unanswered I end up dwelling on the endless possibilities of what the answer could, should or would be and as a result my mind ends up going into overdrive and I spend way too much of my time focusing on this one little thing and never really get anywhere anyway because I don’t know the actual answer. Can you relate at all?
My evening was ok, I guess that’s the best way to describe it. I survived. I’m still breathing. I didn’t get to the gym unfortunately but I did a gentle home work out instead and then indulged in a few drinks.
Did you get up to much at all?
November 14, 2018 at 6:45 am #236813ShelbyvilleParticipantKkasxo,
I very much relate to that. Part of the reason I went to therapy is because I’m someone who NEEDS to understand things, I like to know the reasons for things and why things happen. However, my therapist has tried to open me up to the notion that not everything in life gets explained. He says bad things happen and sometimes there is no specific reason why and one of my biggest challenges has always been to life my life with uncertainty. As I mentioned previously, it’s all about control for me. I believed I could control most things. I ask my therapist why my ex couldn’t move forward, he says he wasn’t able to. I ask why he wasn’t able to, he surmises it’s probably down to fear and an unconscious family responsibility. But then that’s not enough for me, I ask why is he that way, why can’t he change……and the therapist shrugs his shoulders sometimes and says, I’m not working with your ex so I don’t know. He says that’s life, it happens a lot and you have to try and move forward without the answers.
I find that the most difficult. Right now, I know why my ex ended it with me. Yet, I have ya least 10 questions off the top of my head I could ask him right now. I watched a Ted Talk about this and the speaker explained that an unending search for answers is most common in breakups. It’s as we struggle to accept the reality.
Good on you for doing a workout at home at least, you’re making more progress than you think. I’ve done some cleaning today, which helps distract me somewhat. Well actually I lie. I still think of him every minute of a task but at least it’s better than thinking of him while sitting on my ass moping.
My therapist says the best revenge is to live a good life and be happy, if I wanted to look at it that way as an aid. It doesn’t help me because my ex is such a good guy, he’d only be thrilled for me to be getting on in life. Sigh. I just miss him.
I am here typing debating taking a walk. Okay, I’m gonna do it, I don’t think you ever regret exercise and fresh air!
Are you planning anything this eve?
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