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  • #236825
    Valora
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    I very much relate to that. Part of the reason I went to therapy is because I’m someone who NEEDS to understand things, I like to know the reasons for things and why things happen. However, my therapist has tried to open me up to the notion that not everything in life gets explained. He says bad things happen and sometimes there is no specific reason why and one of my biggest challenges has always been to life my life with uncertainty. As I mentioned previously, it’s all about control for me. I believed I could control most things. I ask my therapist why my ex couldn’t move forward, he says he wasn’t able to. I ask why he wasn’t able to, he surmises it’s probably down to fear and an unconscious family responsibility. But then that’s not enough for me, I ask why is he that way, why can’t he change……and the therapist shrugs his shoulders sometimes and says, I’m not working with your ex so I don’t know. He says that’s life, it happens a lot and you have to try and move forward without the answers.

    I find that the most difficult. Right now, I know why my ex ended it with me. Yet, I have ya least 10 questions off the top of my head I could ask him right now. I watched a Ted Talk about this and the speaker explained that an unending search for answers is most common in breakups. It’s as we struggle to accept the reality.

    This is probably the lesson life is trying to teach you right now through all of this. If you work hard to learn it, learn to surrender control when you need to and to accept that you don’t really need to know all the answers, then this feeling you have right now will eventually pass and your next relationship will be all the better for it. If you don’t learn the lesson, it’s likely this lesson will keep repeating itself until you do.  I’ve learned that the hard way through repeating life experiences. They don’t stop until you finally learn the lesson and take it to heart.

    If it helps, this was the same lesson I’ve had to learn too. It’s a difficult one, but it’s freeing when you learn to surrender.

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    #236837
    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    That is exactly how I think too. I need to understand everything. I need for something to be broken down into little bits so that I can truly understand it.

    I often find myself asking questions about my ex too. Why has he done this? Why is he like this? Why doesn’t he want to move forward? Why why why? And I do agree, it is the hardest when you have so many questions unanswered. It’s unsettling and I can honestly say it makes me dwell on things for much longer than I should as I try to rationally come up with the most suitable answer myself.

    Haha I had a little giggle about the comment that your ex would be thrilled that you are doing well. I know this feeling all to well. Here I am hurting at even imagining my ex getting on with life whilst it would be music to his ears to hear the same about me – does he not care for me like I care for him? Why doesn’t it hurt him that I’m getting on okay without him?

    I hope you went for that walk and I hope you feel all the better for it! I don’t quite know what I’m gonna do with my evening yet. I considered taking a nap (oh how exciting my life is!) but with my current state of mind I know I will much rather be able to properly get to sleep later so to not overthink. For now I’ve settled with a hot bath. I do feel I should’ve gone to the gym to at least pass some time but I felt very weak the other day when I went so it’s probably not a good idea. I’m kinda tired of watching movies now. I want to do something productive but I don’t really know what. I think I’m having one of those days today where no distraction in the world can actually distract me!

    #236841
    Shelbyville
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    I went for the walk, 4km, I spent every step thinking of him of course, but at least i got exercise and fresh air.

    I think there are a large amount of similarities in our exes! I feel the same, I’m barely getting by and it takes a monumental effort to feel half normal every day and he is getting on fine (I’m guessing) and I know him and know he would only be worried if I was not doing ok and would be delighted for me if I moved on with my life. Maybe ‘cos it lets him off the hook and depletes some of his guilt, I dunno.

    Thats good planning re:the nap. Try and get as much of a decent sleep tonight as possible. I’m going to do some meditation now while I wait for dinner to cook. Talk about boring!

    Having read another blog I have written some things in the notes section of my phone. The first three things are simple enough to remember without having to check phone. ‘I love myself’. ‘I want to be happy’. ‘Fu*k him’. I’ve been repeating these to myself the past couple of days. I don’t know if they help but the blogger suggested them as helping her so I’m going to continue and see how I get on.

    You have your first counselling session tomorrow right? I hope you find it ok and feel comfortable at it. You’re doing all the right things.

    #236869
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    I caved in and napped! But luckily I still feel pretty tired so hopefully I will still have a good nights sleep!

    However, I am finding myself struggling again. I know this relationship is wrong for me at this point. I know it. But everything about me wants to give it another try. I believe he made mistakes which hurt me in the process. I believe he didn’t intentionally want to hurt me. But at the same time I am aware that there is nothing that can excuse his behaviour or the hurt caused. It’s like I am unable to see him for what he has become, instead I still hope to see the wonderful man that he was throughout our relationship. I am going to try and read back through some of this thread to try and encourage some of my rational mind to come out again, I remember I had a really rational period a while ago and I honestly believe that is when I felt best about this whole ordeal.

    I’m very nervous about starting my counselling journey tomorrow. I worry about the ‘spiral’ and ‘dark place’ I spoke of before and having to deal with that once the session is over and I have to come home to face reality on my own. It’s a tough one but I guess it’s just another thing I must get through.

    #236889
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    Whats the worst that could happen if you got back together with your ex? Would you be able to endure it? I went back to my ex before and while it turned out that it didn’t work out the second time, I know I still had to do it at the time, I had to give it everything.

    My therapist joked the other day when I complained that I’m not feeling better as time goes on that if I hadn’t returned to my ex a couple of years ago, I’d be totally fine by now! He was being funny and it did make me laugh, but he agreed I needed to absolutely do it at the time.

    I understand how you feel- look at me, it hasn’t worked out TWICE with my ex and I still want to reconcile with him!

    Don’t worry about the counselling, it might be less scary to say those things out loud than let them rattle around inside your head, turning into all sorts. Tell your counsellor what you’re concerned about and if they can offer any tools for you to cope in between sessions.

    I’m awake, trying to get to sleep, but it’s hard. Hopefully I’ll get some sleep soon. I hope you sleep too.

    #236903
    aditya adila
    Participant

    Hi Shelbyville,

    I’m experiencing the same thing as you. We broke up since 7th November and it was a week before our 1 year 2 months anniversary, we’ve lived together for 6 months and the rest we live separately because he works somewhere else. He dumped me first. I also felt like I’ve already emotionally attached with him because he was the only who support me in many ways we’ve been through up and down together. I was going crazy and feel so alone until now just like you. But then, I take some antidepressant which is Stablon (only once a day) and now I’m trying to go to a hypnotherapist, have you tried this? I think this works. It helps to overcome the anxiety they help us to forgive ourselves and it change the way we think.

    #236923
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Morning Shelby,

    I see what you’re saying. Obviously the thing I am fearful of the most is ending up right back where I am at the moment, if I decided to reconcile with my ex. That fear is what is holding me back. I suppose in a sense all of the anger, grief, resentment that I am currently trying to work on is a shadow hanging over the reconciliation also. I feel almost as though too much has happened? There are things that I know now that I didn’t know before and yet my heart still ‘believes’ maybe somehow it could work?

    You mentioned a few weeks back that perhaps because of the kind of person that I am I need to just give it one more try just to be sure that it cannot work. Do you think that his may be it? That otherwise I will move on forever asking myself what if and perhaps that is the reason why my heart cannot fully move on?

    I think you still want to reconcile with your ex because as you previously said you truly believe you two could be happy. You could be happy if only he just changed, grew up, whatever it is you want to call it. If only he agreed to progress with you you would’ve had your happy ever after with him as that was the only thing breaking your relationship. But the truth is he tried, twice, and both times was unable to. It also goes down to the lack of understanding of his perspective. Why? Why is he unable to progress? What has made him this way? Why can’t he just wake up? Maybe I can wake him up?

    I am like this too. I always believe that it can work if I just stick it out. And that is probably another reason why I am having a hard time letting go.

    For the meanwhile, I asked of him that we relax on the communication a little for the next couple of days as I go through my first counselling appointment. I want to be completely clear headed and not focused on the situation with him. I want to focus on the trauma I am trying to put behind me. He has honoured this thankfully and has only txt me saying ‘good luck, I will be around if you need me’.

    We have agreed to go away on Saturday to have ‘the conversation’ about the going on’s of the summer. So I guess we’ll see if that goes ahead and how it goes.

    Did you manage to get any sleep in the end? How are you feeling this morning?

    #236925
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Aditya Adila,

    I’m sorry you’re having a tough time too. Yes I too am taking medication and undergoing psychotherapy. It’s a slow process and I hope it will soon improve.

    Kkasxo,

    A couple of years ago, when I reconciled before, I believed we were meant to be together, my heart and gut told me to go back, to give it another go. It turns out I was wrong. Nevertheless, my therapist explains that it was something I needed to do at the time, I had to be able to let it go knowing that I had tried everything. And I did try everything. You are right, he tried…twice and still couldn’t do it. Why on earth can’t I accept that? It’s definitely something to do with control and believing, like yourself, that if you hang in there and work on it, you can change the outcome of a situation. It’s exactly 8 weeks today and I still have no fragment of light about moving on or trying to make myself happy in life. I’m still lost without him, sad, lonely and even jealous of him living his life without me. I consider contacting him many many times. There is no point in me pretending I don’t.

    I think it’s a good thing that your ex is easing off on communication for the time being. It’s important to sort what’s going on in your head and heart without any other considerations. You may end up back where you are in a year’s time, but you have survived right? You could survive again if worst came to worst. I do think if ye talk on Saturday, you would both need to work out a future plan that you are BOTH happy with and not live on vague plans or maybes. When I got back together with my ex previously, I was just so happy to be back with him, I didn’t broach the future subject at all. I tried to keep it all light and airy and as the months and years went on, the cracks emerged. It will only work if ye are on the same page and willing to work for the same goals, so that could be something to chat about.

    I eventually got a couple of hours sleep, but I’m pretty tired today. I’m feeling the loss again this morning. Honestly, it’s exhausting, feeling like your life is on pause at misery until you can regain your life with your ex.When this is not a possibility for me. Why can’t I get that into my head. I miss him so much.

    This evening Im going to a school musical at my friends school – she’s a teacher –  so I figure it’ll distract for a couple of hours.

    Im wishing you all the best with your session later and remember – the first one will always be a bit alien and you might feel unsure but give it a chance. Let me know how you get on!

    #236927
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    See, the difference is your heart and gut told you to go back. My heart is, but my gut isn’t. But then again, that could be the fear of being hurt again hanging over me. I realise that I have become a very closed and fearful person and I believe I would feel the same with anyone else as I do with him now.

    I suppose you’re right in saying I have survived and if worst comes to worst I will have no choice but to survive once again. I do believe that the other thing holding me on to him is the fact that the two of us went through this traumatic experience over the summer. He’s the only person who truly understands, the only person who knows the ins and outs of everything and perhaps that is another reason why I am holding on as when the dark times come I feel like I need him to help me get through, because of the connection. I do feel in some crazy irrational way that he is supposed to be a part of my healing process so that I can truly get past this, even if it is from a slight distance.

    We have spoken briefly in the past couple of weeks about the future. Nothing has changed on his end. His plan of a mortgage later in life is still very much in place as is his lack of compromise – and yet here I am ready to dive into this again!

    You are an extremely strong woman. You have been doing amazing. It is absolutely normal to want to get in touch with your ex but the fact that you haven’t caved into that need often is incredible! Much stronger than me! I do believe the idea of a happy ending with him despite knowing the reasons why it wont work is what is holding you in this phase. Our ex’s share some of the same qualities and I know I almost questioned whether I really wanted all of those things? Whether they’re absolutely necessary for my happiness? Or is being with him greater than all that? Why cant I just wait? Why cant I just take a leap of faith and believe that he will pull his weight eventually?

    It sounds crazy and irrational, I know. Talk about a complete lack of self love right?!

    I’m glad you have managed to make plans for the evening! I am anticipating that I will be in a bad way after my appointment so I am somewhat mentally preparing myself for that. I sure will be in touch to let you know how it goes!

    #236929
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    Well over a couple of weeks of therapy, maybe it’ll become a little clearer as to what is the best thing for you to do right now. You may not actually be worse after therapy, you may feel better, maybe you just to need offload all that you have been carrying and it will lighten your load somewhat, so keep the faith.

    I don’t know what you have been through with your ex, but if you feel he’s intrinsic to your recovery, discuss it with the therapist and see what advice is given. I am sure when you go through something traumatic and you have a connection with someone regarding that event, it seems natural that you would want that person to be part of the process.

    You’re so like me! I have been questioning if I really need those things in the future. Is my ex not more important than all of that, which I feel I’m unlikely to get anyway now at this stage.  Genuinely, but my ex is a bit of a decent guy and he wouldn’t let me make the sacrifice, even if I wanted to. For my sake and also for his as he would constantly feel the cause of it and I’m sure resentment would set in. When we got back together two years ago, i explained to my therapist that I would be happy to have him as my partner for the rest of our lives, nothing more. I genuinely believed that at the time, but as time went on, my real feelings kept leaking out, despite me trying to be patient and just push them down. Now I’m in no man’s land. I can’t go back and I can’t go forward. I feel like I’m broken. Destined to be nothing more than a broken-hearted shell for the rest of days. How pessimistic of an outlook is that?! But that’s how I feel. I want to be with him and not have any issues. Argh, it’s not fair.

    You are right, I have a demonstrable lack of self worth/love.

    #236933
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    Yes I do hope that therapy will shed some new light on what I need to do. Although I am trying to focus this purely on the trauma as this is what is affecting me the most, I think maybe further in the process we can go on to discuss the man who caused all this in the first place!

    Perhaps we have a complete lack of understanding not only towards our exes but also towards ourselves! The same way we question why they are the way they are and why they cannot change, the same questions are applicable to us! Why do we want these things so bad? Why can’t we just be with them the way they want to be with us?! Why are we not able to compromise or sacrifice any of it to be with them the same way we expect them to do for us? A bit of a change of perspective. I suppose at the end of the day we as human beings want what we want and that cannot be changed?

    We have most definitely both fallen under the category of lack of self love/worth. But we are doing our best for today and that’s all that matters!

    #236943
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

     

    That is an interesting perspective, I feel like the problem is my ex when he is who he is. Flawed and all. He could just as easily wonder why I wouldn’t change and be happy with what was on offer, but it wasn’t good enough I’m afraid. He held back and I could feel it and that’s not a good feeling. But I still love him, or as the book says I’m in love-ness with him. Because apparently if I truly loved him I would let him go and wish him to be happy!

    I wonder when or if it will ever change for me. Will I always feel this way and have low self worth. I can’t ever imagine a day where I genuinely think I’m the bees knees!

    #236945
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    I understand that completely. Sometimes love just isn’t enough.. it is a real shame!

    I read that part of the book actually and I questioned how you can wish someone that you love so deeply to go on and continue a happy life without you?! I can’t quite understand this concept yet. It makes sense because you love them so you should wish them happiness at all times, but is it applicable to real life? I’m not so sure.

    I want my ex to hurt at the loss just as much as I am hurting. I want him to wake up and realise what he has lost, as do I. I can’t just wish him happiness in life without me, or better yet with someone else – the thought of it actually makes me feel physically sick. I think that goes back to the idea of him being ‘my person’. When the reality is, he is his own person! Not mine!

    We may not be able to imagine those days now but we have both admitted that we were quite confident women before these people came into our lives. I do hope to see that part of myself again because I was just so utterly and blissfully happy. On my own but happy. I really did not need anyone to contribute to that happiness, I just was. I’m hoping to regain that someday.

    #236963
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

     

    I feel the same. I cannot imagine him living a happy life without me, it hurts too much. But perhaps if we accept and move on, that would become easier.Who knows?!

    I don’t know who or what I am these days. I feel so lost, with no map for the future and my path to happiness taken away, even if that’s a skewed version of what was really going on.

    Hopefully the musical will be a distraction later. I’ll have access to the forum at all times though, so feel free to post after your session or if you need to vent or seek support. Best of luck.

    #236989
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    I remember somewhere in the book you recommended it mentions that fear of the unknown. We associate our significant others with a sure future so the uncertainty of it disappears and as a result we come less anxious about it. Naturally, when the significant other disappears, so does the idea of a sure future. The uncertainty kicks in and us human beings (particularly ones like us who feel deeply) become fearful because there is no clear indication of what that future may be.

    I have just come back from my first session. I was very nervous. The therapist could see this, she was lovely though and very patient with me. I cried a little as I explored the beginnings of my trauma and now post-appointment I just feel empty. I’m not happy, I’m not sad either, I feel nothing. I’ve opened up that very dark door and it almost feels like it is just breathing cold on me.

    We briefly touched on forgiveness and I think it hit me just how difficult this actually is. I want to learn how to forgive myself and accept the summer as a chapter of my life but with that I must also forgive those who were a part of that chapter. I don’t know if I am capable of having these people in my life as I go on.. that including my ex. We also touched on the notion of betrayal and oh that hit right home. Betrayal is a bi**h! And I’ve experienced the worst kind.

    I feel numb. Broken beyond repair. I want to move forward but I don’t even know what that means anymore. It’s like standing at a strange crossroad not knowhich which way any of the roads will lead to and I’m stuck right there in the middle unsure of which path to take, but my legs are getting tired, they’re becoming numb from the lack of movement, I must keep walking, I just don’t know which way..

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