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anitaParticipantI am not sure, but lots of things vanish when guilt gets into the picture. Guilt in small potions can be useful (like a potion of 🍦 or 🍕), but too much and (wait, the emoji is appropriate here) you 🤢
anitaParticipantOh, I get it. She’s (the other DIL) the wife of a “king” (to her) and you are the wife of a lowly serf.. why didn’t I get it beforehand..
That’s annoying, isn’t it 😐
anitaParticipantGuiltfused Confused?
anitaParticipantI understand you not wanting to hurt your husband’s feelings. He sounds like a good man and you are good for caring to not hurt his feelings!
Why do you think your MIL dumps all this generational trauma on you and not on her other DIL?
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantHmm Confused, I think that you are making an excellent point 👉
You needed time for yourself back then (Nov), time to be alone, but felt too GUILTY to ask for it, fearing that your fair need (everyone needs alone-time) would hurt her.
That’s an emotional quagmire: guilt 4 a natural, human need.
What do u think 🤔?
(no vomit face emoji), Anita
anitaParticipantHey again, Nini 🙂
* “We all can’t be Shakespeare” (Roberta)- I like that,funny 😊
Yet your feelings that eat away at you, Nini, aren’t a funny thing 😐
You need way more attention than you’re getting. For one, because the two of you live far away from each other and you only talk on the phone these days, and second, because as a child, “no one ever listened to (you)”, your words.
How did it feel back then, growing up (and now, as an adult) to not be listened to and to not be taken seriously by your family?
That sounds painful 😒. It creates a need, a desire to be super listened to as an adult, by a romantic partner.. does it?
You may think that him telling you that his favorite color is the color of your eyes is not too much to ask, except that he can’t read your mind and know what you would love for him to say at any one time.
You say that you can read his mind. Wow! I was never able to do that. As a child I tried real hard to read my mother’s mind but I think that my reading failed every time.
Reading your posts, on one hand you sound reasonable, logical, in regard to your expectations of him. On the other hand, I “hear” a hurt little girl who needs the kind of attention she never got: to be listened to, to be taken seriously, that which you deserved back then, and now.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantb back 2 u in a few hours, Zenith
anitaParticipantI understand you wanting to be happy and wish you will.
I will soon be away from the 📱 for a few hours but when I’m back I would like to get back to you.
In the meantime, I woul like to understand how your boyfriend shows that he doesn’t take you seriously, an example or 2 perhaps?
anitaParticipantHello Nini 🙂
I understand that he loves you deeply, that you’re devoted to him, and that you feel hurt, sad and disheartened about him not behaving as attentively to you as you are to him.
I can “hear” how much this is affecting you, causing you inner turmoil 😔
You would like to not be affected by the difference so deeply anymore, to “not pay attention to this”.
Maybe it’ll take some exploration before you can answer this question.
Maybe him being less attentive awakens an early wound of the child- you trying very hard to be loved? (a beginning point of exploration, if you would like to engage in such)
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantThat’s an excellent idea, Zenith: to not visit India at the same time your co-sister is there 👍
Yes, I remember you shared about him not setting boundaries with his parents. It makes sense to think that he has some sort of trauma growing up.
🤔 Maybe his elder brother took on one role in the family (king) so, he took the opposite role because there can be only one king among siblings (don’t know, thinking out loud).
Coming to think about it further, maybe it’s his mother’s pattern: elevate some people (elder brother, one DIL) over other people (younger brother, other DIL)?
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantW.O.W Nichole!
Reading your message made my day 🤞
Your level of self-awareness amazes me. I hardly ever come across such a level here or in real- life.
You accept anxiety and shame but see beyond them: “those feelings will rest and then joy, peace and contentment come along the way. The feelings are just visitors”.
And whom do the feelings visit?
“A child of God” whose void is filled primarily by God, not by people 🙏
“No matter what, I am okay with me. I love me”-
I am breathing these words in as a mantra for myself. Thank you, Nichole for sharing all that!
What an excellent idea: to work as an Uber driver in- between jobs, an excellent practice for being in public and staying centered no matter how other people behave (rude, nice, or inattentive).
The neighbors here decided to not let any more chickens roam around anymore, so no more 🐔 🐔 for Bogart to chase.
On the other hand, there’re lots of rabbits around here (Spring time) and he chases their scent like crazy. Sometimes they run 🐇 🐇 in front of him but he doesn’t see them because he’s busy smelling.
The taproom closed last Friday (went out of business). I knew it for some time, so it was not a surprise. I hope to get to socialize elsewhere irl in the near future.
A delight to read your message, Nichole. You are amazing 👏 🙏 👍
🤍 ✨️ Anita
anitaParticipantGood 🌄 Confused:
Yes, I was beginning to feel weird for using the vomit emoji 😐
How would making that list help? I’ll make a tiny (kinda) list that applies to me as an example:
I CAN’T Control the feeling of tension in my body right now, but I CAN Notice it (I just did), and I CAN- at this moment- take a slow breath, and a second one. It helps because for a moment, the tension has eased.
I Notice it eased and I am taking another slow breath because it helped (maybe I’ll build a habit of slow breathing over time, if I repeat this).
Confused: “I am trying to control my feelings all the time”-
You mean by analyzing (trying to think yourself into feeling differently), researching with AI, posting in reddit, etc.?
What if you first empathize with and validate what you do feel?
Example: ‘it sucks to not feel what I want to feel. It’s natural to want to feel happy and in-love. I feel sad and empty and guilty that I don’t feel those loving feelings’
Did you already try that?
😐 🤍 🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Zenith:
To be gentle to yourself, and empathetic. Maybe have the image of Zenith-the-girl 👧 in your mind and think of yourself as her mother.
If she (the girl Zenith) feels hurt, what do you do?
Talk to her, ask her to tell you what’s inside her, validate her feelings (example: ‘I can see why you feel hurt. It hurts to be ignored’), calm her, hug her (mentally, if not physically).
If she’s angry, listen to her, validate what she feels (example: ‘When we get hurt, sometimes we also get angry and want to make the other person hurt too’)
By letting go of people who hurt you- you mean no longer having contact with them, or..?
👧 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHeY 🌙 🦉 Confused:
“I can’t let go of control”- I can’t imagine anyone letting go of all control, just some.
I mean needing control is a natural need.
I suppose it’s about differentiating between what we can control and what we can’t control.
What if you made 2 lists: things you can control and things you can’t control?
(I am 🤔 of dropping the vomit emoji. What do u think?) Anita
anitaParticipantOh, Zenith, you are wise. You understand. Those early life wounds aren’t fixed with money. Maybe fixing with Love works: love for Zenith.. by Zenith. I mean.. well, do you know what I mean?
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