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anitaParticipantDear Tee:
I am on my way out the door, but I read enough to want to clarify: I don’t normally feel angry at her anymore. The anger came up at-the-thought-of facing her in the same room, even in imagination. That’s when the fear and anger got activated earlier today.
Do you understand the context of the anger?
Anita
anitaParticipantAnd adding:
Thank you so much Tee for your time and efforts, your good heart and amazing generosity. I am forever grateful to you and still 🤞 🤞 🤞 for you, hoping to hear good news from you, thinking of you, wishing you well..!!!
🤍🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantYes, if me is not the happy-go-lucky guy at work.. something is wrong. I hope that the problem gets resolved somehow..
anitaParticipantAdding: I think that the exercise is not a one size fits all strategy or solution. I don’t think that there’ll ever be a time when an adult me can be calm in a room with her, and I think that aiming at such a situation (in a room with her in real-life or in my imagination) would be harmful to my inner child.
I used to think of her as “my private Nazi” and of my childhood, “my private holocaust”. I thought this way as a teenager.
Imagine asking or expecting a holocaust survival to imagine himself or herself in a room with the sadistic Nazi, calm and collected.. so to correct the trauma..
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
* By the way, I quote so much of your posts because I copy and paste my responses to you into a private file for safekeeping, so in case something happens to the site, I have a record and I can go back and read your words at ay time in the future.
In regard to your yesterday’s post:
“It definitely feels like your inner child seeing things with new eyes, seeing your mother with new eyes, and not craving her love – or not craving her love so much – anymore. You’re slowly beginning to understand and accept (and it seems not only on the rational level, but also at the inner child level) that she didn’t have the capacity to be a loving mother. It seems her mothering was all about meeting her own need to feel better about herself by abusing and denigrating you (and your sister).
“She created a false image of you in her mind – a twisted image, as you called it – and she raised you as if that twisted image were true. And you believed it, like every child does…In her twisted image, she was all good and you were all bad. She needed to see you as ‘bad’ so that she could keep seeing herself as ‘good.’ So that her fragile ego wouldn’t collapse.
“Simply put, she needed to put you down, so that she would feel good about herself. Which is typical for narcissistic people: they need to see themselves superior to others, they need to feel better than others. Come to think of it, it’s actually impossible to get validation from a narcissistic parent, because if they were to admit that we’re good enough, that we’re worthy, in their twisted mind it would diminish their own worth. And that’s a tragedy of being raised by a narcissistic parent: you can never be good enough, because it would threaten their ego.”-
W.O.W. You say it so well.. I don’t need to watch all the YouTubes you watched, you are giving me the best of what you watched and IMPROVED ON, I have no doubt! 🙏 🙏 🙏
“We are lovable and worthy, but we were born to parents who taught us that we’re not, who taught us that there’s something very wrong with us. And now we need to rejected that old programming and kind of build ourselves anew. Re-parent our inner child, so we can be the fullness of who we are.”- Amen.
As to your first post today:
“That’s great that you could observe all your feelings and feel empathy for yourself as you were experiencing those feelings. As a result, you haven’t slipped into guilt, which would have been your automatic reaction. You didn’t start feeling guilty for choosing yourself over your mother, for protecting yourself from your mother. You chose yourself, and you didn’t feel guilty about it. That’s great! I think that’s great progress, Anita! ❤️”- thank you ❤️!
(Anita): “It’s all been just TOO MUCH. I am scared of her now as much as I always have been, an imagined look in her eye, the sight of her face, her voice, imagined (if I was to talk to her/ see her)- to me, it feels terrorizing.”
“Little girl Anita is so scared of the Mother- Monster in her life.”
(Tee): “I’m sorry to hear that, Anita. But it’s understandable, because you were all alone with your Mother-Monster, and no one to rescue you. There was no escape from her, and you weren’t even sure if you needed to escape or you needed to become ‘better’ so she would finally stop persecuting you. I guess a part of you wanted to escape, but a part wanted to stay and please her, so she would finally love you and accept you, right?”-
I definitely gave up on the idea of pleasing her there and then. I daydreamed a lot about pleasing her one day in the future, if I became rich and famous and able to buy her the luxuries she’s been audibly and wistfully daydreaming about.
About pleasing her right there and then, it was failure after failure until I stopped trying. I mentioned that one part of her personality disorders combo was Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder. So, when I washed dishes or tried to clean so to make her life easier, she severely criticized my efforts, saying I had two left hands and just did things so poorly. I remember one day using a dish washing sponge to scrub each and every little square of floor on my hands and knees so to make sure it’s done just right. I don’t remember her response to that particular effort. Likely, she criticized me for destroying the sponge or whatnot.
“A way to heal the inner child is by giving her a so-called ‘corrective emotional experience’. The way it happens is that we imagine a distressing situation from the past, and then our adult self ‘steps in’ and intervenes, i.e. protects our inner child from the abusive parent. Our adult self intervenes on behalf of our inner child. By doing that, we rewrite the old traumatic imprint and with that, the habitual traumatic response too.
“Ideally, this is done with a therapist, in a safe environment. But it can be done on our own, if we’re anchored in our adult self and have absolute confidence that our adult self can protect our inner child. If we feel we can be a good, loving parent to our inner child.
“I wonder how you feel about doing something like that – that the adult Anita intervene on behalf of LGA and protect her from your mother, in a rehashed situation from your past?
“I’d also like to say that in order to strengthen our capacity to be a good, nurturing parent to our inner child, we need to be able to feel calm and relaxed in our body – because that’s how we calm our nervous system. We cannot be a good parent – neither to our inner child nor to a real child – if we’re stressed and anxious.
“You’ve mentioned embrace on the other thread, and it occurred to me that you might want to try the self-hug exercise, which is great for calming our nervous system. It’s basically putting our left hand under our right armpit (a little below it), and our right hand on our left shoulder, which simulates a hug. And then breathing.”- I just did.
“Diaphragmatic breathing, with one hand on our chest and the other on our belly, would be another method to calm down anxiety and feel safe in our body.”- I just did.
Most recent post:
“Hmmm, if you’ve felt an impulse to engage in a fist fight with your mother, I’m guessing there is still quite a lot of anger that would need to be processed first.’- the anger goes hand in hand with the fear of her, it wants to protect me from her, to keep her away from me.
“Our adult self has the qualities of a loving, caring parent (among other things), so it would probably resort to milder tactics, such as saying something to your mother, or standing in between your inner child and your mother, preventing your mother from hitting your inner child. Or what you did around the age of 20: you grabbed your mother’s hands and prevented her to hit you. So, ideally, our adult self should have a mature response, like a loving, caring, responsible parent would have.
“Please don’t take this as judgment – it’s okay to feel angry, to express our anger and process it. But if anger remains the primary emotion that we feel towards our abusive parent, it means we feel threatened by them, and as such, we won’t be able to protect our inner child either.”- but if I stop being angry at her, I might let her get close again and hurt me..???
“So, the goal would be that your adult self doesn’t feel threatened by your mother, but to arrive at a place where you understand that she doesn’t have power in your life anymore. That she cannot destroy you, because you don’t believe her lies about you any longer. And you don’t need her to love you or validate you.”- but if I get to believe that she cannot destroy me, I might let her back in.. I mean, If I don’t perceive her to be dangerous, I may renew contact with her and that’s something I promised my inner child to never do.
I mean, part of me wants to make her happy and if I stop being angry at her, the part that wants to please her will get me into trouble.
“And so, if she can’t harm you any longer, you (your adult self) doesn’t feel threatened by her and can release the anger that you feel towards her. And that’s when we can help our inner child, i.e. truly protect it from our abusive parent.”- I am scared of her.
“Just a small clarification: the hand below our armpit is positioned in a way that our thumb is resting on the side of our chest, pointing upwards, while the rest of our fingers are below our armpit.”- thank you for the clarification, it does feel better this way.
“Hmm, that’s a good question. I guess the inner child represents all our sensitive, vulnerable parts, where we feel scared and need external protection/soothing/comforting. For example, our inner child needs to feel loved, and if we haven’t healed it, even the most benign situations can trigger a sense of being unlovable, e.g. if a shop assistant doesn’t smile to us, it’s a “proof” to us that we’re unlovable and unworthy. This would be a very childish behavior, which with healing goes away. Which I think means that this part of our inner child is integrated into our adult personality. So next time a shop assistant is rude to us, we won’t think there’s something wrong to us, but that they’re having a bad day 🙂.
“But there can still be situations in which we feel vulnerable and scared like a child, e.g. in case of a severe illness, or loss of a loved one, or some catastrophic external event (wars, disasters), etc. That’s when we feel the need to be soothed from the outside, because self-soothing isn’t enough. Many people find that comfort and soothing in a higher power, or perhaps a very supportive friend or a partner, or a therapist, of course.
“I believe a part of us always remains a child (here by a child, I mean a part that feels scared and helpless and is in need of external soothing and regulation). But as we heal and mature, this child part is less and less, and only comes forth in difficult situations, however not in everyday situations, which we can hopefully manage on our own.
“I hope this answers your question 😊”-
Yes, you have inner Child Champion Tee 🏆 🥇 👑 🔥
Back to the corrective exercise you suggested: none of me wants to be in the same room with her for any reason. She is still the Trauma in my c- pTsd. How about a corrective exercise I can do away from her, I mean, not having her in the same room/ place/ country where I am.. no contact whatsoever.. Can that be done?
Maybe the corrective exercise in the format you presented it/ saw it on YouTube, is no for everyone- depending on the extent, complexity and history of trauma. What do you think, Tee?
Anita
anitaParticipantSounds like something unjust, that you were the victim of something wrong that was done to you 😢
anitaParticipantDear Tee: I just wanted you to know that I am reading/ processing your recent posts and preparing a response 🙏
anitaParticipantPissed at the private stuff that’s happening to you (not about the coworker issue)..?
anitaParticipantSorry you’re sick. Could be caused by stress, at least partly. Start a new thread about the other stuff, or is it confidential, private?
anitaParticipantHello NYC Artist!
As I was reading your recent post, the thought occurred to me that she envies you, wishes she had your life and that she’s trying to punish you with her “just kidding” mini-aggression.
“Most recently she snapped at me in a very benign text conversation where we were making plans and I abruptly told her I think I will take a rain check. It turned into this argument about how I am too sensitive to her jokes and she was only kidding.”-
So, who’s too sensitive, really..?
“She tells me my sensitivity is ‘next level’ and hard to deal with.”- she wants you to take her aggression quietly, submissively, seems to me.
anitaParticipant.. Or you meant sick of work?
anitaParticipantYou’re physically sick..? Wonder what’s the more important stuff..
anitaParticipantGood morning, me!
This piece of information makes a difference. I thought he was flying 3 hours each way just so to see her, leading me to think it was a more than friends interest. How do you feel about everything at this point?
anitaParticipantDear James:
“Attachment to ego is attachment to expectations. Good or bad. Doesn’t matter. When one completely drops all the expectations… what remains is already pure beauty… what You really are = Effortlessness… say to God, I love you more then myself, this body belongs to you, and I give it back to you…. And that’s what non duality is, genuinely not knowing.-
Genuinely not knowing what will happen next and being okay with it, totally relaxing the need to know/ the anxiety about not knowing.
Relaxing the need to shape reality so to feel safe later on, when reality is shaped to my liking. A futile dynamic because reality keeps shifting and it bounds to be not to my liking at least twice a day 🙂
This morning, James, I have a better understanding of what non-duality means in a practical sense than I ever had, thanks to your explanation quoted above.
So, it’s not about the expectation to feel good, it’s about giving up on expectation, on the futile lifestyle of seeking or chasing expectations, good or bad. Thank you, James 🙏 🙏 🙏
Dear Peter:
“The space I speak of isn’t… the silence that erases pain, but the silence that listens to it without needing to fix it.”-
Continuing the thoughts above, the ego is about expectations, including the expectation to fix things and people/ to fix how I am feeling at any one time.. the desire/ craving/ expectation to feel better.
“Maybe this embrace isn’t something we arrive at, but something we remember. Not with the mind, but with something deeper, older, quieter. A kind of contemplative remembering, not of a moment past, but of a truth that’s always present.”-
You are talking about the canvas, empty of the ego’s drawings/ painting.. The “In The Beginning” of non-duality, something to remember. I just took a moment to remember and I don’t remember a time when I was free of craving or expectations. I figure you’d say at this point, Peter, that it’s not the “I” that remembers. (I am typing as I’m thinking).
So, what is it that remembers.. it’s not the part of me that’s thinking/ seeking that can do this remembering.
“A memory arises of a sad young boy returning from school, sitting with the family dog Duke, in silence, and feeling held… through presence. A quiet recognition. A softening. No words, no measure, just being met.”-
A quiet canvas moment experienced when the ego was quiet, the ego that rushes into the past and the future, zigzagging in-between, skipping the present, missing the timeless now..
“So, if you cannot feel it, Anita, know this: you are not outside the embrace. You are already within it and always have and will be.”- I’m part of the canvas inseparable from everyone else who’s also part of the canvas.
My ego always wanted me to feel special, different in a good way.. so to cover up the special in a bad way (low self-esteem, ashamed, guilty), thrown violently in- between misery and occasional, rare euphoria.
Being no different from everyone else, neither more nor less.. this is a new experience for me. That’s the embrace you’re talking about, right Peter? It’s neither good nor bad, neither more nor less..
“You said the warm embrace caught your eye.. what if you leaned into it.. An invitation to feel the embrace in ways you may not yet have imagined. In the eyes of a dog. In the hush before a thought. In the way a tree stands without needing to be seen. In the breath that comes unbidden. In the silence that holds even the ache.”-
Beautifully said, like a poet.. In the hush before ego’s thoughts.. measuring, labeling “me” and “you”, “good” or “bad”, “pleasurable” or “painful”.
Thank you, Peter 🙏 🙏 🙏
🤍🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
Thank you so much for the above post. The exercise, I imagine, will take a lot out of me.. I already imagined the beginning of it, the adult me intervening, and what I saw was the adult me physically fighting the mother with my fists. I will do the exercise later, and also give myself a hug (before the exercise).
As far as the YouTube, thank you. Thing is, I have trouble following the spoken word (ADD or ADHD).. just not patient or attentive enough. It’s too much trouble for me.
I wanted to ask you (before getting to the computer this morning): the inner child grows up/ matures when healing takes place over time (you mentioned in a previous post that my inner child is maturing)? How old does the inner child gets with lots of healing.. Or does the inner child stop being a separate entity from the adult self and the two become one?
I will answer your previous post and your most recent later on today.
🤞 ❤️ Anita
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