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ParticipantDear Beni:
You’re very welcome! Take all the time you need to let it sink in. I’m here whenever you want to reach out.
Sending you love and best wishes
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter:
“I suspect a notion that most children have of being wrong is behind most of our struggles. Mine came from religion. I see in my journal quite a few attempts at trying to come to terms with the notion of ‘original as my understanding of ‘original sin’ was and is firmly connected to disobedience. (As I write that I notice anger – all the times I was told I could fix by obeying and didn’t question so much. FYI telling a type 5 not to question is telling them not to be.)”-
– The concept of original sin originates from the biblical account of Adam and Eve’s disobedience in the Garden of Eden, resulting in (my words), God overreacting to the smallest obedience imaginable by expelling humanity into a lifetime of Failure to Fix. Because you can’t fix an inherent fault that you were born with (“Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me”, Psalms 51:5, a fault that all humans share and no one can escape, prevent or avoid (“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”, Romans 3:23), an utterly Unfixable Flaw, one that is beyond cure (“The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure”, Jeremiah 17:9)
Guilt and shame are powerful tools for controlling people. By internalizing the shame and guilt that accompany the concept, people are easily controlled within families and societies.
You felt anger, Peter, when reflecting on how you were told that you could “fix” yourself by obeying without question, having your natural curiosity and individuality suppressed for the sake of fixing what authority insists cannot be fixed. It’s a deception- to push people to fix what is stated as unfixable.
You wait your whole life for the reward (being declared Good… Finally), a reward that never comes for a lifetime (and then you are promised the reward posthumously: heaven).
“I read a book way back ‘Surprised by Joy’ and thought their should be a book ‘Surprised by depression’ as it tends so sneak up on me. I’m never quite sure why but there it is”- Much of my life I was depressed because I believed that I was inherently faulty, unacceptable, bad (the personal presentation of original sin that I was subjected to).
The unexpected joy were moments when I forgot. I forgot what I just stated. These were precious breaks, only moments, or short periods of time because I quickly remembered or I was reminded.
Skillful Hope then is about no longer feeling joy or hope when forgetting, but feeling these while remembering, remembering that we were good at the start, at our very beginnings, not faulty at all. Abandoning Original Sin, Adopting Original Innocence…?
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ParticipantDear Beni:
You acknowledged having a controlling mother but also mentioned an accepting father, stating that although your parents provide physical support, there was a lack of emotional support and interest.
You expressed a desire to break free from the past and take on an adult role in your life but you struggle with comparing your childhood to others’ and feeling that your problems are silly or made up. This self-invalidation prevents you from fully acknowledging your experiences and the impact of these experiences on you. You want to believe that your experiences are valid and that trauma can result from small stresses.
My input today: for young children, stresses and trauma are significant even when as adults looking back and comparing, those stresses look small in comparison to other people’s sufferings.
It is important to understand that children don’t have the same perspective as adults. They don’t have the ability to compare their experiences to others’ and minimize their own trauma. For the child, the stress and trauma they experience are very real and impactful. So, when you are now minimizing your suffering as a child by comparing your suffering to others’- the boy that you were (who is still a big part of you)- did not and does not compare. His emotional sufferings were- are real and significant.
By the way, everything is physical: emotional experiences are physical, involving chemicals that are released into the blood and create physical reactions in our physical bodies, even when such reactions are not evident to the outside.
Also, a child who suffers traumas like natural disasters, wars, crime (such things that seem way bigger- in an adult’s mind- than a child who let’s say suffered from a peer at school who said hurtful things to the child), if they have emotional support from caregivers/ adults, they are likely to end up way less damaged emotionally than a child experiencing a bully in school and having no emotional support from parents or teachers.
Emotional support is crucial to the emotional health of the child. It softens the blows of negative events and experiences. Having no emotional support=> there’s nothing to soften the blows.
I hope this helps explain why childhood stresses and traumas are significant, even if they seem small- in an adult’s mind- in comparison to other people’s suffering.
“so I’m crying for justice but also I’m an adult now. And I want to be the adult in this relationship. I want to break free”- to break free, you will need to get to a point where you no longer compare and minimize and invalidate your childhood sufferings.
It’s a good thing, Beni, that you are actively creating space for yourself. Please create more space for yourself by validating your experiences as a child. This is essential for nurturing your authentic self.
Continue to engage in activities that allow you to express yourself and feel safe, whether it’s volunteering or other pursuits that bring you peace. Your approach to experiencing emotions mindfully, with equanimity and compassion, is commendable. Befriending yourself and accepting your emotions can help reduce internal conflict and foster self-compassion, softening blows in life.
It’s important to find a balance between not pushing yourself too hard and taking gentle steps towards your goals. Small, manageable actions can help you build confidence without overwhelming yourself. Celebrate every small victory along the way.
Building meaningful connections can be challenging, especially with a history of feeling emotionally unsupported. It’s okay to take your time and seek out relationships that align with your values and needs. Trust that authentic connections will come with time and patience.
Your spiritual journey is a valuable path for self-discovery and inner peace. Embrace this journey and allow it to guide you towards a deeper understanding of yourself and your place in the world.
Beni, your awareness and willingness to explore your emotions and experiences are truly admirable. Continue to honor your journey, and know that it’s okay to seek support when needed. You are not alone, and your path towards healing and growth is uniquely yours. Thank you again for sharing, and I’m here for you if you have more thoughts or questions.
anita
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ParticipantDear Substantial:
Based on the detailed post and the questions you asked at the end, I can infer certain aspects of your childhood experiences that shaped some of your current behavior and feelings in the relationship.
It’s possible that as a child, you experienced a parentification dynamic where you took on caregiving responsibilities for your parents or siblings, placing yourself on the sidelines and prioritizing their needs. This often leads to an ingrained need to please others and take care of them at the expense of one’s own needs.
Growing up in a home where a parent’s love and approval are conditional on a child’s ability to please the parent or meet their needs, often results in a pattern of over-giving to seek validation and affection.
If your caregivers/ parents were emotionally unavailable, inconsistent, or neglectful, you could have developed a deep-seated fear of abandonment. This fear can manifest in adult relationships as anxiety, clinginess, and the need for constant reassurance.
The anxiety you feel when trying to focus on your own life rather than over-giving suggests a strong fear that you might lose your partner’s love and attention if you don’t constantly prioritize her needs (same as what you feared as a child: that if you don’t always prioritize a parent’s needs, you will get any love or positive attention?)
Growing up in a critical or invalidating home leads to low self-esteem, internalizing beliefs that you are not worthy of love unless you are constantly giving and pleasing others.
The constant overthinking and questioning of the relationship indicate deep-rooted insecurities about your worth and the stability of the relationship.
I would like to try and answer the questions you asked toward the end of your original post:
1. “Am I too needy?”- It’s natural to want affection and attention in a relationship. Reflecting on whether these needs stem from childhood/ past experiences (before you met your partner) or current dynamics can help you understand and address them better.
2. “Do I have low self-esteem?”- Your post does indicate struggles with self-esteem. Building self-worth independently of the relationship (perhaps within psychotherapy) is crucial.
3. “Does she really love and care about me?”- Love can be expressed in different ways, and sometimes mismatched love languages can create misunderstandings. Maybe your love language is Acts of Service, and hers is Words of Affirmation (I don’t know). Honest conversations about how you both express and perceive love can provide clarity.
You wrote: “For me, the concept of love is you are there to give to the other person, be a source of happiness and peace for that person”- But if you grew up unloved, unhappy and not in peace- without significant healing since (as in psychotherapy), it is not possible for a romantic partner to make you feel loved, happy and in peace, not for long, no matter how hard she may try.
You wrote: “I then tell her that even if she puts in the effort, it comes after I’ve asked for it, making it seem forced. To which she tells me I don’t give her space to do anything for me”- You have specific expectations about how care and affection should be expressed in the relationship (love language). Your girlfriend might feel pressured to meet these expectations, feeling controlled and confined to your love language. She may perceive that there is little room for her own way of expressing care (her own love language).
The fact that you ask for certain actions and then feel the efforts are forced highlights a dynamic where her possibly spontaneous acts of care/ love are less valued, maybe they go unnoticed. In other words, you may see the expression of love rigidly, as in almost limited to one love language, and you’ve been trying to force her to express her love in that one language, dismissing or not even noticing her own love language or languages.
You wrote: “She thinks she can’t make me happy, no matter what she does I always complain and whine about it”- her statement suggests that your need for validation may be insatiable. Indeed, when needs from childhood are significantly or severely unmet for too long, no amount of love in adulthood can satisfy those unmet needs, not without a healing process such that can take place within competent psychotherapy.
The communication issues and arguments within the relationship highlight that both partners, you and your girlfriend, are likely triggering each other’s emotional wounds. Your need for constant reassurance might trigger her feelings of inadequacy or pressure, while her perceived lack of love triggers your fears of being unloved and unworthy of love.
4. “Am I with the right person?”- Determining if you’re with the right person involves assessing compatibility, shared values, and mutual respect. It is possible that you’ve been re-experiencing, at least in part, your past childhood struggles in the context of your romantic relationship as an adult.
5. “Is this how relationships work?”- Healthy relationships shouldn’t lead to one person feeling consistently undervalued or anxious. So, no, it is not how a healthy relationship works.
6. “What went wrong between us? (As for the early 7-8 months in the relationship, we never fought)”- Initial phases of relationships often involve the “honeymoon period” where conflicts are minimal, a period of time when you felt loved perhaps. As the relationship progresses, differences and unmet needs (from childhood and otherwise) surface.
7. “Am I being too feminine?”- Attributes like nurturing, empathy, and expressing feelings are not inherently feminine or masculine; they are human traits. It’s important to embrace and honor your authentic self without labeling these qualities as feminine or masculine.
8. “Do I love her more than she loves me?”- reads to me that you need her more than she needs you, a need that was born in childhood, way before you met her.
9. “Is she using me?”- reflect on what are the advantages to her in the relationship with you, what are the practical and emotional benefits for her?
10. “Is she right to be self-centered, and that’s how one should be in a relationship, or she’s a narcissist?”- I’ll answer this with a question: growing up, who was indeed self-centered, very self-centered, not even noticing what you needed, what you felt and needed?
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter:
Thank you for caring about ho I feel, it’s meaningful to me that you expressed such care! I am feeling much better: nothing like working outdoors on frozen ground and worrying about frozen toes to shake one from low feelings! Back to you tomorrow!
anita
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ParticipantDear Substantial:
Thank you for sharing your detailed and heartfelt thoughts. It sounds like you’re navigating a complex and emotionally challenging situation. Here are some reflections and suggestions that might help you gain clarity:
It’s understandable to feel frustrated when you believe you’re putting in more effort than your partner. Relationships ideally involve mutual give-and-take, where both partners actively contribute to each other’s happiness and well-being.
Open communication is key. It’s important to express your feelings and needs clearly while also listening to her perspective. This can help both of you understand each other’s expectations and find a middle ground.
Over-giving to the point of losing yourself can lead to burnout and resentment. It’s crucial to maintain a balance where you also prioritize your own needs and well-being.
The anxiety you feel might be a signal that something needs to change. Addressing this anxiety through self-care practices and possibly seeking professional help can provide relief.
Your concept of love involves selflessness and going out of one’s way for the other person. Reflect on whether your values, goals, and expectations align. Compatibility is essential for a healthy and fulfilling relationship.
Consider whether issues related to self-esteem or insecurities might be influencing your perception of the relationship. Building self-confidence can help you approach the relationship from a place of strength.
Setting healthy boundaries can ensure that your needs are met without compromising your well-being.
It’s understandable to feel hurt when your efforts to visit her aren’t reciprocated. Look for compromises that work for both of you, such as alternating visits or finding convenient meeting points.
Consider seeking (more and better) therapy to explore your feelings, anxieties, and relationship dynamics. A therapist can provide valuable insights and strategies for navigating these challenges. If both of you are open to it, couples therapy can help address underlying issues and improve communication.
Take the time to reflect on your needs, values, and the overall dynamics of the relationship. Trust your instincts and make a decision that prioritizes your well-being and happiness. Navigating relationships can be complex, especially when feelings of imbalance and anxiety are involved. Remember to prioritize your well-being, communicate openly, and seek professional guidance if needed. You deserve a relationship where both partners actively contribute and support each other.
I hope to read more from you and have a conversation with you!
anita
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ParticipantDear Substantial:
I am looking forward to reading ad replying to you in the next few hours or so.
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter:
Peter, Jan 10, a quote (I am adding big case letters): “We must renounce our childhood vows. They TRAP OUR HEARTS… we BELIEVE the LIE and make the VOW. It is important to break the vow so it may not have a strong hold on our hearts”- my childhood vow: From now on, from today on, I will be a good girl!
What TRAPPED MY HEART was the LIE that yesterday I was bad, and if I am not careful today- if I don’t follow the rules or in the absence of external rules, make my own rules (“Rules 4 Life”)- I will be as bad today as I was yesterday.
It is important for me to break the vow because it traps my heart in the desire to be good.
If I know that I am good, I no longer desire to be good. What other desire may take the place of the-desire-to-be-good?
The desire for the experience of life beyond the trap of waiting-to-be-good. A sigh of relief. Running through an imaginary field of green grass, the gentle sun above, a child running, falling, lying on the ground frozen in time for decades, then getting up, an older woman resuming the run across field of green grass. Perhaps briskly walking across, don’t think I can run, not like a child ca run. Too hard for my aging knees.
I am so very tired today, Peter, feeling a bit depressed. Be back tomorrow.
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter: we submitted posts 5 min apart. Maybe you didn’t notice my recent post.
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ParticipantDear Peter:
I asked you: “If you ask peter the young boy: ‘what do you hope for?’ What will he say?”, and you answered: “Funny Sad that just reading that question I feel a tightness in my lower abdomen as my hope as a young boy came from a place of fear and anxiety or you might say discomfort and the Hope was for comfort because discomfort was not only bad but ‘sin’. I’m afraid my Hope was not for Life but to change what cannot be changed. In other words as a young boy I was unknowingly saying a big NO to Life while believing I could fix it by being good and following all the rules”-
– Processing: you described your childhood hope as stemming from fear and anxiety. This implies that your primary motivation for hope was to escape and prevent discomfort (fear, anxiety) rather than to seek positive experiences.
You linked discomfort with being “bad” or even “sinful.” The use of these terms implies a moral judgment. It indicates that you viewed discomfort not just as an unpleasant experience but as a sign of personal failing or moral inadequacy, believing perhaps that any discomfort you felt was a reflection of your own shortcomings or wrongdoings.
Generally, these beliefs in children are shaped by external expectations or teachings by caregivers, authority figures, or cultural and religious norms. Examples of how such a message is sent to a child by a caregiver: (1) the caregiver dismisses the child’s fear or anxiety by saying things like, “Stop being a baby”, “There’s nothing to be afraid of”, or “Why are you always so scared? You’re such a coward”. This can make the child feel that their emotions are invalid, that experiencing them is wrong, and that feeling fear is a personal failing.
(2) the caregiver rolling their eyes, sighing, or showing impatience when the child expresses fear, sending the message that the child’s emotions are unwelcome or bothersome.
(3) the caregiver Ignores the child’s expressions of fear or anxiety, making the child feel that their emotions are not worthy of attention or support.
Some religious teachings emphasize the idea that fear is a lack of faith or trust in a higher power. For example, messages like, “If you truly had faith, you wouldn’t be afraid”, associating fear and anxiety with sinfulness or moral weakness, leading the child to feel guilty and a failure for feeling fear.
In cultures that value emotional restraint, children are taught that showing fear or anxiety is a sign of weakness. Phrases like, “Real men don’t cry” or “You need to toughen up” reinforce the idea that fear is unacceptable.
Cultures that emphasize success and perfection convey the message that fear and anxiety are obstacles to achievement and should be overcome or hidden to maintain an image of competence.
Portrayals of fearless heroes in movies, TV shows, and books create an ideal that fearlessness is a desirable trait, leading children to feel inadequate for experiencing fear.
Role models, such as parents, teachers, or public figures, who emphasize courage and downplay fear, may inadvertently make children feel that their own fears are unacceptable.
Back to your words, Peter, your reflected that your hope as a child was not directed towards embracing life but rather towards changing what could not be changed, and that you believed that by being good and following all the rules, you could “fix” your discomfort. For you, following rules became a control mechanism, believing perhaps that if you behaved perfectly and met all expectations, you would avoid negative emotions such as fear, anxiety, or guilt.
Generally, rigid conformity involves a lack of flexibility in behavior and thinking. It means strictly following rules without considering context or personal needs. This mindset leads to suppressing one’s true self and emotions to fit into a mold of what is perceived as “good” or acceptable, and it reflects a misunderstanding of the nature of emotions, which cannot always be controlled through external behaviors. Over time, this suppression can lead to resentment and frustration, as the individual’s authentic self is not being acknowledged or expressed.
Believing that one’s worth is tied to rule-following leads to conditional self-worth. This means feeling worthy only when meeting certain standards or expectations. Failure to meet these standards can result in harsh self-criticism.
Using rule-following as a coping mechanism is ineffective for managing emotions in the long term. It does not address the root causes of fear and anxiety and can prevent the development of healthier emotional regulation strategies. It can also lead to avoidance of situations that might evoke negative emotions, limiting personal growth and experiences.
“Krishnamurti made an argument that most of our hope really represented a fear. And that one hoped when one was in despair… Years ago I determined that if one was to hope unskillfully it was best not to hope at all, which I still think, only I didn’t give up on the notion of learning to hope skillfully. It’s why I want to revisit my relationship with Hope – Krishnamurti not wrong but surprising myself, my gut says there is a Hope that, yes, we might turn to in times of trouble, but isn’t about fixing that trouble, or comparing, or even becoming… Though I feel such a hope would bring one closer to a ‘true self’. Kind of the Joy and sorrow relationship? Maybe? Language is going to get in the way, but think I’m in a space to explore it.”-
-Processing: Krishnamurti argues that hope often stems from a place of fear and despair. When individuals are in despair, they look for hope as a way to alleviate their suffering. This aligns with your earlier reflection, Peter, on your childhood hope being rooted in fear and anxiety.
You acknowledge that unskillful hope, which is rooted in fear and the desire to fix external circumstances can be unhelpful, and you now seek to explore a different kind of hope— one that isn’t about fixing trouble, comparing, or achieving. Your desire to revisit his relationship with hope indicates a shift towards acceptance and finding meaning in life’s experiences without the need to control or fix them. This aligns with the idea of moving away from rigid conformity and towards a more authentic and self-accepting approach.
“As a young boy I was unknowingly saying a big NO to Life while believing I could fix it by being good and following all the rules. (I think you had a similar experience with taking on the label of bad, if for different reasons? I wonder if most children do?)”-
– a lot of people can relate to this, and so can I. I believed that if I followed all the rules, I would become good and worthy of a good life. For a long time after I started my first quality psychotherapy in 2011, I was still compelled to make rules for myself. I used to type rules and print them on papers titled “Rules 4 Life”, then sign them. I believed, every time I typed, printed and signed 10-20 rules, or more, that I would follow them perfectly and that I just started a good life, being a good person worthy of a good life. Each such time ended with a new Rules 4 Life, a new effort. Talking about the futility of Rigid Conformity.
My Hope now is to say YES to me being me, a person who is no longer primarily suppressed and repressed, but expressed according to the values I believe in (do-no-harm is one), to undo the difficulty in processing my own feelings of conflict and despair: to let life live through me, as Hokusai Says (the poem)- to let my emotions (energy in-motion) flow through me, unrestricted by labels or rules.
My whole life I wanted to be good and worthy of that peace of mind that evaded me. As a way of life (a non-life), I was holding my breath literally (restricted inhaling & exhaling) and figuratively, following rules (and breaking them) until such time that I can breathe again, inhale, exhale, all the way, comfortably.
I wrote above: “Using rule-following as a coping mechanism is ineffective for managing emotions in the long term. It does not address the root causes of fear and anxiety”- the root cause of my ongoing anxiety has always been the devastating belief that I was a bad person waiting to be good.
Yesterday, I wrote to you: “In childhood, time has a different quality, a timeless quality, and when tragedy hits, there’s a forever feel to it”- the tragedy that hit me and stayed persistently for decades, is the accusation that I was a bad person, and that I was a bad person from a time before I had a chance to have a say about it: a chance to correct any (what?) bad deeds. The accusation just fell from the skies (my mother= god) and crushed me for so very long.
I will go over your thread from the beginning and connect it to Hope- in a later post.
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter:
I intend to dedicate all of Mon morning to your thread, but for now, in regard to this part of your recent post: “As it comes to hope as a child I doubt I gave it much thought. Life happens so fast at that age that memory hasn’t had enough time to get its hold into you”-
– from my experience, life in childhood happens so fast only in the context of an adult looking back at it, remembering it. In childhood, time has a different quality, a timeless quality, and when tragedy hits, there’s a forever feel to it.
We forget how it really was when remembering as it truly was is overwhelming.
anita
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ParticipantDear Beni:
You are always welcome!
“My mom would always make a tantrum about the kitchen it’s a public place she likes to control. Maybe that is what my resentment is about that I did/do not understand that”- her intense emotions and controlling behaviors took you away from you, did she?
I mean, a boy (or girl) needs space to be.
I am reminded of Shakespeare’s question: “To be or not to be, this is the question”.
An intense (too intense) mother who demands control, steals the authentic part of her child, and without this part, there is a disconnection within the child, a disturbing and persistent sense of alienation.
“I see the people around me as oppressive enemies who have no interest in understanding what I need and even would punish me if I would show myself vulnerable”- as I understand it, you see others the way you correctly see your mother: primarily, an oppressive enemy with no interest in understanding what you need, a woman who punished the authentic part of you.
“That’s why I want to feel alienated, angry and sad to let them know how horribly they mistreat me. By changing my behaviour I would communicate the oppressor that it works to disrespect my dignity and I’d rather die than to admit their power over me.”-
– I suppose you are holding on to the feelings of alienation, anger and sadness because these valid feeling (valid because they are natural emotional responses to your mother’s behaviors) are the calls or cries of your hidden/ oppressed authentic self within. By changing these feelings, and/ or the expressions of these feelings, you’d be silencing the authentic self/ authentic child within, and admitting defeat.
Am I understanding correctly?
Oppression in genera leads to a wide range of emotional reactions, including anger, fear, sadness, resentment, alienation, frustration, shame, and defiance. When the oppressor is one’s mother, these emotional reactions are even more intense and complex due to the unique nature of the parent-child relationship:
In general, children of significantly or severely oppressive mothers- mothers who are sole or primary caretaker, and with little or no support by others- feel a mix of love and resentment towards the oppressive mother. The conflicting emotions create confusion and ambivalence. There’s a struggle between loyalty to the mother and anger towards her.
The children internalize the oppression, believing they are at fault or deserving of the treatment, feeling ashamed of their situation and their inability to change it.
They fear punishment or further oppression if they resist or speak out. They feel emotionally disconnected from the mother and from others as well, experiencing social isolation as a result. They feel trapped in the oppressive environment with no way to escape or change the situation.
General coping mechanisms: a mix of complying with the mother’s demands to avoid conflict and punishment, suppressing one’s true feelings and needs to maintain peace, actively resisting the mother’s control and asserting one’s autonomy, and engaging in defiant behavior as a way to reclaim power and control.
Long-term impact, generally: struggling to trust others due to the betrayal and control experienced from the mother, fear of being vulnerable and open with others, difficulty forming healthy attachments and relationships, reenacting similar dynamics in other relationships (example: a man marrying a controlling woman, one similar to his mother, and actively and continuously seeking her approval), anxiety, depression, and ongoing struggles with self-esteem and self-worth.
What I stated above in general terms has been true to me personally. My mother was my sole caretaker, there was no one but her in my life as a child (no other influence, at least non that was significant). She was extremely controlling and expressed her very intense emotions through protracted sessions of histrionics and drama. As a result, the authentic part of me went into hiding. Alienation and social isolation was the theme of my life. And yet, my authentic self, hidden and oppressed, never stopped trying to break into the surface and take its rightful space- space to be and to become.
is this your struggle too, Beni?
anita
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ParticipantDear Lisa:
You’re very welcome. I’m glad to be able to offer support and help you on your journey.
“I am distressed over who I could have been had I received what I obviously lacked from childhood, security”-
– It’s completely understandable to feel distressed about what might have been different had you experienced the security you needed in childhood. The impact of those early years is profound, shaping our sense of self, our ability to trust, and how we navigate the world. It’s natural to wonder about the alternate paths your life could have taken with a foundation of security and stability.
When children feel safe to express their emotions, when they regularly receive comfort and understanding from caregivers, when they trust caregivers, when they feel protected, supported, they become adults who are confident in their abilities, more likely to take healthy risks and pursue opportunities; they are better equipped to form meaningful relationships, achieve personal and professional goals, and navigate life’s challenges with a sense of stability and self-worth.
* What I wrote right above about children feeling safe to express, etc., is not something I know from personal experience.
Remember, it’s not too late to build the sense of security and self-worth that you deserved then and deserve now. Your awareness and willingness to reflect on these experiences are already significant steps forward.
Take your time, and whenever you feel ready to share more, I’m here to listen and support you.
anita
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ParticipantDear Beni:
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I’m glad that my analysis resonated with you and helped validate your experiences. It’s indeed a complex and challenging journey to navigate the effects of enmeshment and find one’s true self.
It’s understandable to feel a mix of sadness, freedom, and even questioning the worth of living when uncovering such deep-rooted issues. The grieving process is a significant part of healing, allowing us to acknowledge the pain and begin to move forward.
“What I’ve been exploring lately is how I choose to create drama. Because It’s what I’ve always done. I don’t know how to be any other way”- creating drama is often a coping mechanism and a learned behavior that once served a purpose:
When a person has grown up in an environment characterized by stress and chaos (drama), these conditions become the person’s “normal.” Even though these conditions are unpleasant, they are familiar. As adults, we might unconsciously seek out or create similar high-stress situations because it feels familiar and comfortable compared to the unknown. Familiar stress can feel safer than the unpredictability of peace and calm.
Also, drama provides a form of emotional and psychological stimulation. It can break the monotony of daily life, making the individual feel more alive and engaged.
It could also be a means to connect with others, as the chaos and drama might elicit responses and interactions from those around us.
In environments where people feel overlooked or insignificant, drama ensures they become the center of focus. Creating drama can also serve to influence how others react or behave. This influence can provide a sense of power and control.
In summary, creating drama as a coping mechanism is a learned behavior that once served a vital purpose in navigating chaotic or intense environments. By understanding and addressing the underlying needs, individuals can find healthier ways to feel alive, connected, and in control.
Recognizing that this behavior is a coping mechanism and understanding its origins is the first step towards change. Viewing the behavior with compassion rather than judgment helps in acknowledging that it served a purpose at one point.
I think that I do understand you. To understand more, I ask: can you elaborate on “Maybe I’m afraid of punishment. Or I can not forgive myself”?
I’m here to support you as you continue to explore and grow. You’re not alone in this, and every step you take toward understanding and healing is significant.
Take care and be gentle with yourself.
anita
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ParticipantDear Peter:
I want to review our valuable communication on this thread before I reply to your recent posts, so to better integrate what I processed so far before moving forward with the conversation. I expect to do it by Monday. I remember that you said that you take a break from the computer on weekends. I wish you a good Friday and a restful weekend!
anita
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