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I think all (at least most) men think that way, but only a couple (or at least a few) would actually act on those fantasies. From what you wrote, I doubt your DH would actually act on the suggestion! But maybe keep him away from alcohol and definitely from the couple. Who needs that energy around? It’s more trouble than it’s worth, look at the arguments it started! It doesn’t seem fair to me that he’s angry at you for not maintaining a friendship with people that would make anyone (or at least most people!) uncomfortable!
InkyParticipantThere are two things, and I’m going to boil them down until they congeal to the pan:
1. All men are horn-dogs deep down
2. It’s that woman
So here you all are, totally inebriated, and suddenly someone is giving your DH permission, out of the blue, to have a threesome. He’s thinking, “OH! It’s THAT kind of a party?!” and he looks at you with a hopeful grin as is someone gave everyone an illicit joint or wanted to go cow tipping or something. I swear to God he thought of it as harmless, let’s live a little, fun. Now, I think if sober, he’d freak out a little the closer to the bedroom everyone got. I think it’s the IDEA of doing it that is so appealing.
Now, that woman. Your friendship is off the table, sorry DH. I would, though, revisit them ten years later when she’s a little older, a little fatter, more flabby, and, dare I say, more moderate. We have all said things that we’d rather take back, and she has learnt not to talk to your friends as you would some people in a bar.
Forgive, forget, and have him stay away from that woman until the mid 2020’s when everyone can laugh about it in their older age.
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InkyParticipant“The world is small and life is long” ~ to counteract the finality of a breakup.
“I believe in the possibility of all things” ~ that it’s OK to be friends for a night, that you will have a good time
“I am a gift to any man” ~ That it was a big “OOPS!” on his part
Also, if you don’t want to go ~ no one can argue with a toothache! Sometimes enough is enough and you don’t have to see him if you don’t want to. However, if you love Katy Perry more, go to see the concert for its own sake! And have a good time!!
InkyParticipantHi There!
When people have affairs it’s usually when the kids are older and life has become drudgery. This paramour of yours sounds young and everything is brand new! Of course you can’t compete with a newborn daughter! You just can’t! His lifestyle changed dramatically! Wait until she’s over the age of ten, not as cute anymore, and self sufficient!
That being said, I know that ultimately this is not what you want. He is an addiction. And what’s worse, he is an addiction that doesn’t (really) seek you out! So, if you contact him every day, wait two. Then contact him and wait three. At this point he will contact you. Don’t reply. Wait four days. Once you get to the eight days no contact mark he should be going crazy.
But wait, there’s more. When you see him, no sex. Now it should become obvious if he really loves you or has been playing you.
That boring nice clueless husband of yours sounds better and better. Let him “win”. Put all your attention that you would have given the other guy onto him.
See what happens. Your life will improve dramatically.
InkyParticipantEveryone gave some really great advice that you should take to heart.
One “red flag” I saw was you getting overwhelmed and emotional about all the horrors of the world. You are empathic, but you shouldn’t suffer! Take Vitamin D and St. John’s Wort for depression. You might not be getting enough sunlight (which has Vit. D). I was depressed/weepy for years and it helped. A lot. It seems like such a small thing. Promise us you’ll get a check up and rule out any underlying, subtle, thing that is “off”, OK? Once the physical is OK, then work on the mental/emotional stuff that’s left.
Also you are vegan ~ are you eating a lot of grains? Some of us have a grain sensitivity which wreak havoc in many ways. Maybe up the fruits and veggies. Vitamin B12, obviously, is a must. Would you be open to having an egg once in a blue moon if you saw the real, live, happy chickens they come from? There are a lot of people who feel as you do and raise their own happy chickens and goats so they have some animal protein. I only say this because I’ve been there and I saw what made a difference in my own mood and well being. (Apologies if I offended!!)
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InkyParticipantThis situation is intolerable. My kids were best friends especially as they got older. And shame on your parents for not putting their foot down. It is not out of the realm of possibility to move out of the house, into a dorm, into a shared apartment. Even if you have to have a part time job to pay rent, that is a lot better than being with this family of yours! Your sister will get more jealous but your parents will be proud. Just do it. Don’t say you can’t. Most young adults do. Don’t ask for help or permission. Just get out of there.
November 13, 2014 at 4:23 am in reply to: Feud between brother and sister – I\'m the sister-in-law – Where should I stand?? #67762InkyParticipantI think the sister is being controlling because by saying that you are “controlled” and have to “hate” her because of your husband! That is very manipulative. This is not an intervention on behalf of a controlled woman. This is so she can be friends with one spouse and still fight with the other!
Asking one spouse to go against the other (even in support) is over the top. She can’t have it out with one, so she goes for the easier target! Don’t be the easier target.
Just say, “I want peace in the home” or “I’m not discussing this” or “You’re not over that yet?” when she brings it up.
And, on another note, of course you can be friends with her! Just don’t have it be in your husband’s face! Don’t hide or deny it either! Be all, “Honey, I want peace in the home”, “I’m not discussing this” or “You’re not over that yet?”
The decision is ultimately yours, but I would let your husband handle it and take the lead.
InkyParticipant1. Ignore her. Literally. Pretend you have gone deaf. Then pretend that you have gone deaf and blind as she yells, ups the ante and makes weird gestures. Then, when it is quiet and calm, behold! Your hearing and sight have returned!
2. Use the Broken Record Technique. It could be any line. Like, “It’s OK, I forgive you”. This is an alternative to Ignore.
“That’s stupid!”
“It’s OK, I forgive you.”
“You’re stupid!”
“It’s OK, I forgive you.”
“IT’SOKIFORGIVEYOU!IT’SOKIFORGIVEYOU!!”
“It’s OK, I forgive you.”3. Another technique is to say “You’re right” to every insult and “I don’t know” to every question. Eventually she will tire herself out because she have no kick back, no fight. (Obviously she’ll know “You’re right” is meant ironically).
Basically you want her to tire herself out and soon learn it’s not worth it.
And, moving would be a GREAT option!! As everyone gets older and sees each other less respect usually grows.
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InkyParticipantAre you sure the guy she met is a boyfriend or is he just a friend?
If he is a boyfriend, then don’t write the letter. Actions speak louder than words ~ there’s no point. Maybe she wanted to contact you to tell you she met someone. Don’t even give her the satisfaction. Move on.
If he is just a friend or an ego boost, and you don’t want to deal with her anymore, write the letter.
If you do want a relationship with her, or just want to figure out what’s going on, forget the letter. FB her, call her on the phone, see her. There might be more than meets the eye.
InkyParticipantI wish you posted this first… I’m sorry, for some reason I thought you were a guy and mindlessly pining over an ex.
All I know is you teach people how to treat you.. They will go crazy at first, but.. What if for every criticism you sing a song? Ignore? Change the subject? Give them back three times what they give you? Leave the room? Talk to them about the ISSUE for an hour for each time they treat you badly? One of these things or a different thing will teach them that it’s not worth it to be mean. Experiment. What do you have to lose??
InkyParticipantTalk to them about it, blog about it, FB about it, tell their parents about it, ignore them, avoid them, hang up on them, cold shoulder them, give them the stink-eye… There are 100 different ways to show your displeasure.
At this point they already know.
But if they backstabbed you then they already don’t care.
Caveat: Keep in mind that some people honesty don’t think they’ve done anything wrong.
InkyParticipantOK, the whole New Age/Spiritual movement is by definition Undefinable. So if you don’t believe in Meditation, Chakras, etc., there are hundreds of other ways to be spiritual! So if you go to the New Age section of the bookstore (or even the Religion or Philosophy section) see what books resonate with you.
My cousin is the most spiritual person I know. She’s into raw vegan eating, channeling, hiring shamans to clear family karma, etc. My sister starts talking about Feng Shui and my cousin laughs at her! LOL! So just do what feels good for YOU! Like religions, not all spiritual people believe all the same things!
Also, some people have spiritual gifts without having to work at it. Think of the tired meme of the Regular Joe guy who gets psychic information he didn’t ask for but in the end has to deal with.
You could be a prayer person, an angel person, a mystic, a magic user, a philosopher, a humanist, a healer, a church goer, a philanthropist, etc. Even the mundane has its spiritual elements. Sitting in nature is profoundly spiritual, even if you don’t feel or experience anything.
InkyParticipantReligion and spirituality is like making Anti Pasta (sp) ~ A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That! You will not jive with ALL the things taught in any one teaching/path. But you can say, for example, “Hmm, I believe in past lives AND that Christ lived. I study the Kabbalah AND do mantras ~ this is my favorite one. I go to High Christmas Services AND to the secular humanist Unity church.” See what I mean? Delve into what resonates with you. If nothing does, that’s OK too.
Personally, I believe that spirituality helps us through life, and religion helps us come to terms with death.
Just remember that you are sovereign and don’t let spiritual “leaders” push you around!
InkyParticipantI agree. Forgiveness is an optional and noble act. Your feelings are immediate and a primal reaction. Do you have regrets for sending the letter? Do you think that will give her license to repeat her actions? (Clue: She would anyway.) View her as an enigmatic yet dangerous wild animal. Like a cobra. Leave her alone. Back away slowly. Warn others heading in the snake’s direction.
InkyParticipantP.S. Don’t do anything rash. In your next lifetime it won’t be *this* lifetime at all. It’s like everyone is in the body of different actors and everyone’s handed a new script/role. Right now your role is loving husband and father. Rock it!
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