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@Jasmine-3Participant
Thanks The Ruminant.
Hi N
Thanks for your thought out response.
“For years now, I’ve been suffering with the thought that God does not exist. Bad things happen, we decide that if there is a God, things like that would not occur. It’s a childish way of thinking, but it’s one we fall into when we don’t really know any better”.
– I used to think in a similar fashion until I realised that “God” has no role to play in the dramas that take place on world stage. It is the individual actions of people coupled with collective actions of a nation at large that leads to bad things happening. We like to blame everything on God as we dont know any better. Grow your consciousness and you will figure out that YOU are the GOD 🙂 who is part of the whole universal consciousness. Ie, we are all one and same. However, I am not going to impose my view on you as you need to figure this out for yourself when the time is right. For me this understanding came along from understanding the theory of Karma but from the right sources.
For example: a set of parents have a mentally disabled kid. Whose fault is it ? Parents or kid or Gods. A disabled kid doesnt suffer as he / she doesnt know any better in that form. Parents may suffer in the knowing that my child is disabled and not a normal kid like others. On the other hand, some parents of such kids take it as a blessing and turn the diasbility into “differently abled” and there is no suffering on their part. Both parties continue their existence but it is their mind set, which sets them apart in the amount of suffering they go through.
We can always look to blame things outside (such as GOD) or we can take personal responsbility for everything that happens. I have chosen to do the latter as then I can choose my reactions and any follow on actions. When I look for someone outside for help, I am goving my power away despite knowing that I am UNLIMITED.
We have close to 6-7 billion people on this planet. Everyone is so unique and everyone is going to give you their perspective but no one’s persepctive is going to be the right perspective for you until you figure out where the responsbility lies – Outside or Inside. The moment you put the responsbility inside, all the craziness and confusion will disappear. You wont need any perspectives from outside as you will realise that at the end of the day, we are all one and same LOL. NO, you are not turning crazy and nor are you crazy now.
Stop judging yourself so harshly. Once the judgment stops, mental chatter will start to die down and you will feel at peace. Please give up the smokes if you have picked it up again. You are not being kind to yourself by putting those chemicals into your body. Those chemicals are notorious for creating unstability of mind.
Best wishes N and continue to spread your light.
Jasmine
@Jasmine-3ParticipantThanks The Ruminant.
Inky, the above post put a smile on my face. You have lost one crazy friend on FB but you have gained a gem of a friend in the form of The Ruminant. See, it wasn’t all that bad as you were predicting 🙂 I think you should heed her advice and not stress about any issues anymore.
Laugh and continue to make us laugh. Life is beautiful that way 🙂
@Jasmine-3ParticipantThanks Matt. I am not able to make sense of what you have written above but not to worry, I will re read it tomo and come back to you if I have questions.
One thing is for sure that no matter how much time I spend in the kitchen, I am not able to relate to the components of another’s meal. Some people just dont have the capacity he he he he. You cant teach a scorpion to not sting lol
J
@Jasmine-3ParticipantWOWOW. So energy reading is like body language reading, eh ?
Observation is it !!! Will put into practice from tomo itself.
Thanks heaps INKY
J
July 15, 2014 at 7:32 am in reply to: tired, discouraged, but a few extra dollars in my pocket #60949@Jasmine-3ParticipantHi Chelsea
I would like to offer you a ray of hope.
You sound like a young soul with great dreams and goals. Hey, without goals to achieve, life can become meaningless rather quickly. While you are young, you can afford to bust your ass so that your other more beautiful dreams can get a steady direction. Of course, you are not going to continue like this for forever.
Don’t loose hope. Every dollar counts when you are building a foundation for your life. Perhaps, use this opportunity to experience human expressions and vibes while you are doing the serving role. I am sure it will come handy eventually. Look for ways to make your job fun so that you don’t feel as tired. Feed yourself some good food, drink plenty of fluids, sleep well and practice laughing for no reasons LOL
You can always catch up with your BF on Skype if you cant get away soon enough.
Sending you loads of positive energy. You are worth it and so is your little hard work now.
Jasmine
@Jasmine-3ParticipantLOL you are too funny. I have so much to learn from you – feng shui skills, intuitive skills etc. I was researching on net to see how many people can sense energy behind words and how to develop this skill but nothing substantial came up. Can you send the skill for me in the next post, pretty please ?
@Jasmine-3ParticipantThanks Matt and Inky. It is pretty deep kinda stuff.
Hi N @chameleon
I have not heard of the guy’s name whose u-tube you have watched. However, I will share my perspective based on the title of this post, “meaningless effort”.
When I first started to read up on spirituality and gain more understanding on WHO AM I, I came across many such opinions and it was very confusing. If everything is nothing or somewhat pointless, then why waste time doing anything ? Why don’t we all just go and sit on Himalayas and meditate with DL until we are ready to leave the body, yeah ?
After doing regular meditation for couple of years now, I have come to understand that when we are happy, life is flowing well and all our wants are being fulfilled, we don’t question anything as nothing. Everything is meaningful and beautiful on earth. Life seems like a bed of roses and if we had a choice, we wouldn’t let go of this state of being. However, like everything in nature, nothing is permanent so the mental state of calm is also limited for non-enlightened beings like us.
Bring in meaningless tasks, unfulfilled wishes, unhappy relationships, unmet basic survival needs etc and all of us start searching for some form of relief. We beg subconsciously for peace, calm, happiness and contentment in life. Some people turn to spirituality, some to religion and some to D/A 🙂 etc
If we could continue in the state of bliss in all circumstances, I doubt any of us would question anything as nothing. What provides bliss in life ? An awareness that everything is impermanent in this dimension and all things exist in duality. If there is sadness, there is happiness. If there is death, there is life. If there is darkness, there is light. If there are meaningful tasks, then there are non-meaningful tasks etc. By understanding this, we can enjoy being in the moment and truly embrace all that life has to offer without getting attached to anything or anyone. Attachment comes from falsely feeling and believing that someone or something is never going to leave us. This is against the natures law and this law works the same for all.
What makes a job or anything pointless or even meaningful ? OUR MIND. Someone has nicely quoted that our mind is our biggest friend and it is also the worst enemy. Our mind helps us to come out of any adversity but it also helps us to remain attached to impermanent things if we do not take control its activity. This is probably the biggest difference between Dalai Lama and us. He still does all the mundane tasks that we all do but he doesn’t get attached to the outcomes. His mind doesn’t get disturbed by the outcomes. Whatever happens will be perfect and he accepts everything that comes his way. And what does this achieve ? A constant state of bliss and minimal mental chatter.
How can we achieve a similar state and still fulfil all our worldly obligations ? I have found that meditation; selfless service to our bodies, families and community; acceptance of self and others; and unconditional love for everything and anything can go a long way in achieving above.
What can take us away from this state of bliss ? Chasing things or people without questioning their purpose in our lives. And perhaps, this is what the you-tube guy is referring to when he says, “they sometimes strive at things that are ‘meaningless”. When we are constantly chasing money, fame, status, people etc without appreciating the beauty around us on a daily basis, everything becomes meaningless.
Another thing I have come to learn is that we cant fully appreciate the “I” until we fulfil our worldly obligations as the “attachment to things and people” will keep dragging us back into the worldly dramas. We can truly only proceed to the highest levels of our spiritual quest once we are able to look after our and our families well-being to the fullest capacity.
Until we reach that state of higher consciousness, everything that we do for living and surviving is very meaningful and necessary. We cant do a Phd until we go through all the levels of school, college, uni etc, can we ? Spirituality is very similar – we cant skip the steps by making an excuse that hey, what’s the use of it all ? Everything is a stepping stone and things become clearer as we move higher in our consciousness.
Hope this makes sense.
Jasmine
@Jasmine-3ParticipantHa ha Inky
Real version: none of the above. You have just been blessed and saved from a crazy friend without doing anything. No more negativity from this source ever and you didnt have to do anything ha ha ha. Win win situation it appears in my kinda world.
@amatt : hey Matt, what does this line mean : “You don’t seem that big on forgiveness, turning the other cheek”. Does everything boil down to forgiveness in Buddhism ? Just curious.@Jasmine-3ParticipantThanks Anyone 🙂 Woof woof back from the dogs.
@Jasmine-3ParticipantHi guys – thanks.
Hey Inky, I have not had a chance to read other replies. I am sorry that such a thing has happened to you. Hey, I can start a new FB account and add you as a friend if you wish 🙂
Don’t worry about those who do not have a good enough reason to appreciate you or your friendship. Let go and let in new friendships.
Hugs
J
@Jasmine-3ParticipantHey Buddha 123, how is life ? I hope much better now, yeah ? You are moving forward, eh !!
Best Wishes,
J
@Jasmine-3ParticipantJuly 14, 2014 at 4:36 am in reply to: Dealing with jealousy and dissension from family members when changing your life #60820@Jasmine-3ParticipantThanks Nanette. You are too kind 🙂
Happy to have met you online as well. You need to frequent TB more often.
J
@Jasmine-3ParticipantHey Anyone
Wow. Parents staying at your place. You must be having such a gala time 🙂
Hey, why are you worrying about commitment? Once bitten, twice shy, eh ?
When a commitment is meant to happen, it will happen, I am sure. Until then, enjoy every interaction without any expectations or judgments. You will be surprised that how easy it is to find a compatible partner when we drop our judgments / prejudices at the door. Every friendship, relationship, interaction etc becomes effortless. Don’t believe in my words as yet – try them out for yourself.
Whats new at my end ? I am going through a steep learning curve yet again. I was having a deep and meaningful with my hubby yesterday. I was telling him about the intriguing conversation that was taking place on one of the threads. The insights that he shared with me after that discussion were just amazing. I felt so blessed to have such a sensible bloke for a hubby. The lesson I learnt from the DNM was that sometimes, we women become so insecure about our own decisions and people in our lives because of the company we keep. The people that we ask for advice or help for our dilemmas have such a huge capacity to ruin our mental stability by planting just one seed of doubt….and this seed could make or a break a relationship.
I hope you can take something valuable from this as well and whenever you engage in the next relationship, you will not fall into the same trap again 🙂
More about me: 2 dogs, 1 husband and ME. Work and home obligations keep us busy but we make sure that every day is fun in some way. My dogs are so cheeky and yet so obedient. They are the most social and adaptable dogs you will come across. We sent them to doggy school early in their lives, which was a wise decision. We have made so many friends thanks to them. Life has always been a blessing at this end but lately, it has become sweeter. Not sure if it is the regular meditation, positive vibes from people or just pure luck. However, I am not complaining and am happy to continue in this state LOL
We have been to India couple of times for short holidays many years ago. I adore simple indian food and lately, I have been addicted to Dosa, Idli and Coconut Chutney. You are so lucky to be living in India with so many spiritual gurus, wisdom and traditions. We don’t have that sort of privilege down under. Although, I was not brought up in India, I have always been smitten by the country and its culture. It works for me somehow at a deeper level. Rome does the same 🙂 and I have no clue why.
One day, I will be there attending one of the spiritual retreats – hopefully sooniiiiiiish 🙂 The teachings do it for me and I have read the Gita and I love Krishna’s story.
Have a great evening and keep in touch.
@Jasmine-3ParticipantHi Purpose
Hugs back.
You seem like someone who is quite caring and empathetic towards people / friends. I am far from being that way. So much to learn from you 🙂
The reason I asked about your health was because sometimes when we worry too much about others, our own bodies become inundated with the emotions and start to show signs of distress. However, I am glad to know that you are well and the worrying about mates is not causing you any mental or physical grief.
Keep in touch and keep us all in your prayers. Dun worry so much about your friend and his gf – I am sure it will all work out fine for them.
Jas
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