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January 6, 2015 at 11:46 am in reply to: Looking for other ways of meeting women than online dating. Please share #70682KatieParticipant
Lol Steve, road trip…I wish! Your attitude sounds so much better these days, and your perspective is right on. Love it! I imagine it would be pretty uncomfortable to go up and talk to random people. Not something that would be easy to do the first few times, I am sure. The dance class thing is awesome!! And as someone said above…there probably are a lot more women than men in those classes. That’s a great idea actually. Plus it’d be fun. What kind of dance? I would love to take swing lessons. 🙂
Regarding friends and couples…it could just be people on the outskirts of the circle…you know, like someone they work with that you aren’t even aware exists! I put out feelers with just two girl friends of mine and neither of them have huge social circles, but they both came back with two eligible guys pretty quickly lol. I say it’s worth it just to mention it! You have a good year too…looking forward to more forum communications with you! 🙂
When you decide to just step back and not worry about the relationship stuff, I’ve found it to be a pretty big relief. And it’s exciting to just take a while to figure out yourself and discover how awesome YOU are.January 6, 2015 at 8:05 am in reply to: Looking for other ways of meeting women than online dating. Please share #70668KatieParticipantHey Steve!
I love your plan for 2015! Sounds a lot like mine, which I am pretty excited about. Nothing better than focusing on yourself for a while and getting your shit in order. 🙂 I also completely understand what you said about losing yourself in relationships and I think it is so frickin great that you’ve realized this, because for me….I know figuring that out has been and will continue to be key in my happiness in and out of relationships.
Also, as sketchy as it might sound (although decime does make it sound pretty cool lol), I just want to say I wouldn’t be weirded out if some dude started chatting to me randomly. Some ladies might, but I think if done in a non-creepy way (ie: don’t comment on something about her physically) it’s actually kind of flattering. Shows lots of confidence, which is a huge turn on for pretty much any woman, I would say.
As my friend tells me, dating and meeting people is all a numbers game…you might have to go through lots before you find the right one. Hopefully not though lol. Speaking of friends – can you just put it out there with your friends that you’re single and looking to mingle? I think women especially enjoy playing matchmaker, so maybe if you don’t have a lot of female friends, speak to your guy friends’ wives about it. Even if it’s not a love connection, it’s a good way to meet new people!
January 2, 2015 at 10:13 am in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #70119KatieParticipantHey again Steve!
Yep, I spent New Years alone as well. Went to bed at 9 lol. Actually I went to my mom’s house, so I wasn’t completely alone but still…almost felt more lame than actually being alone. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself. But then I thought for a minute about how awesome it is that I have a mom that I like spending time with and that likes spending time with me…also thought about the fact that even though no one had asked me to do anything, I’m fairly certain if I would’ve reached out to someone I would’ve been able to find something to do.
I’m happy to hear you are going to lay out some goals for yourself and the future!! I think that’s great to have stuff to focus on that is about you and not some potential partner. I’ve been feeling a little blue about singledom at the moment as well. Mostly just having anxiety that I will never meet anyone I connect with in the way I want. And it sucks to think that online dating may not be as great a fall back plan as I had originally hoped. But who knows what will happen when the time is right!!
I’ve been feeling the need for adventure lately. Like to quit my job, pack up some things and just truck it across the country. Maybe a little crazy. Maybe me hoping I can leave my problems behind. Not gonna happen though, I know.
December 23, 2014 at 5:05 am in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69701KatieParticipantYes, Steve! I think that’s great – it may not be what you really want right now, but to have other goals (exercising, getting to a better place financially) is really important in getting out of this slump and into a more positive head space. I really feel for you, because I can tell from what you write that you are a genuine guy with a good heart. That’s why I know that when the time is right, you will find a person that finally deserves you. I’m trying to do the same things…focusing on my other goals so regardless of what happens right now in terms of relationships, I am making progress in my life and figuring out things I enjoy.
Have a great Christmas, Steve 🙂
KatieParticipantOhhh girl, I wish I had some suggestions. I’m just chiming in to let you know I’m dealing with this as well. It’s nice to hear some of your co-workers are actually aware of the problem. The people I work with (it’s really only two out of about 20) seem to be completely oblivious. I think it’s sweet that you want to give them some guidance on how to cut out the gossip…I think the best thing you can probably do is just lead by example. As you know, you are only in control of your own actions. If they want to continue the gossip, that’s on them. I struggle with this daily…it makes my work environment pretty shitty sometimes to be honest, but I am recognizing that’s just because of MY feelings and interpretations of what’s going on. I find myself either being true to myself and stepping out of conversations that turn gossipy and then feeling paranoid that they’re talking about me or think I’m stuck up because I won’t participate. OR getting involved in the gossip more than I would like and then feeling crummy about myself afterwards. I’ve decided I definitely prefer just being true to myself and dealing with whatever insecurities my non-participation brings about. As we both know, this is an unfortunate dynamic of any office environment. Until I can figure out how to become independently wealthy, I am just going to have to use this annoyance as a mechanism for personal growth. Which can be So. Challenging. lol.
Oh! I just had an idea…since your co-workers are aware of and want to change the problem, could you have something like a swear jar? Any time one of you starts gossiping, you all call each other out and the gossiper has to put a dime or something in a jar? Just a thought…
Good luck 🙂
December 22, 2014 at 6:08 am in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69643KatieParticipantHey Steve!
I think Adam said it pretty well. From what you’ve said, I’m sure you’re not looking for a hook up or someone to make you feel good about yourself – but I do wonder if you are looking for a woman to make you feel whole. Like you can’t really be happy until you find that woman. You are not a wallowing wimp – you are a dad who cares about his kids. Believe me, I know how frustrating it is to KNOW what a good person you are and want to share that with someone and have it reciprocated!! But I think the lesson right now is in being able to accept a little rejection and just knowing that those women are not the one for you. It seems the dating site is creating more negative feelings in you than positive – I think it’s probably a good step to get out of it for a little while. Do you need to wait till your subscription is up? I know it feels like you’re wasting money, but is that money worth the frustration, second guessing and growing feelings of inferiority the site is stirring up in you? When I deactivated my profile, I still had most of the month left. But I decided I was just going to have to eat it. And for me right now, it was one of the best things I’ve done for myself this month. Just focusing on myself….not what other people think of me, not whether so and so likes me….not worrying if I’m only attracted to guys that are “out of my league”…ugh. Glad to be off of it. That doesn’t mean at some point in the future I won’t get back on, but hopefully it will be at a time when some rejection won’t make me question MYSELF.
You feel like you won’t have a relationship or a special connection to someone again. Steve, I totally get this feeling. I have it a lot. But it is all ANXIETY. Not real. None of us have any idea what is just around the corner. Wouldn’t you rather be happy either way – regardless of how long it takes you to meet your special person? And I know you’re just not feeling it right now. Take small steps. Gratitude journals are kind of a trend right now, but I think it’s really worth a shot – it kind of retrains your brain to find the positive things in your life, no matter how small. Do you take a multi-vitamin? Sounds kind of lame, but I found one for women that I swear helps me feel better (more energy, less moody) – they make one for men as well (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Nutrition-Simply-One-Men/dp/B00028NDLI). I also found this magnesium supplement (http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Vitality-Calm-Raspberry-Lemon/dp/B00BPUY3W0/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1419257101&sr=1-1&keywords=natural+calm) that definitely helps me when I’m stressing/just not feeling right, etc. Also making sure I drink lots of water and eat a mostly whole foods, plant based diet. Sorry if this sounds preachy or off topic, it’s just things I know make me feel good – regardless of what kind of shit is going on in my life. Focus on taking care of yourself.
December 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69516KatieParticipantSteve –
I only speak the truth! You sound to me like an honest, respectful, kind and caring person. While you may not need fixing, but you ARE unavailable to me as you live in another country lol. See – that’s my pattern, but I’m trying to break it. 🙂 I’m glad you see how fortunate you are not to be with your ex anymore. But again, I also understand how frustrating it can be to feel ready for a relationship but yet not have one. Do you have friends you can go out and do things with? In the past, I have devoted so much time to boyfriends I have neglected other relationships. I’m also pretty introverted, so if allowed I will isolate myself like none other lol. Anyway, since my last relationship ended a month ago and I’ve decided to settle into this single thing, I’m making a goal for myself to do something with friends once a week. Maybe you could do something similar? Even if you don’t really feel like it, I think we sometimes forget how many people are there for us and love us.
Love Led Zeppelin. That’s funny your kids got you into them…they have good taste! I also really like Muse and the Black Keys…have seem both of them in concert, great shows! Interesting you say you don’t like “new” country…I feel the same way. Old country’s pretty great though. Love me some George Jones. 🙂 Do you like folky music at all? I would suggest the Head and the Heart and Fleet Foxes if you are at all interested in taking suggestions haha. If you only check out one of the two, give Fleet Foxes a listen. Seriously, they got me through this last month. Really beautiful stuff, I promise.
KatieParticipantHi there! I know it’s been a while, but I just wanted to thank you both for your very thoughtful responses. Even though it’s taken me some time to express it, they really did help me when I needed it and I appreciate that so much.
belove – your words especially helped me more than you know.
I have started to relax into my single-hood, and am enjoying spending time with myself and doing things I enjoy! I know that I am right where I am supposed to be right now, and that is the most comforting knowledge to have. I also know that by giving myself some time to accept being single, and be happy being single, I will be more ready to accept a healthy relationship into my life.
Anyway, just wanted to let you both know how much I appreciate you having taken the time to respond to me with such honesty and care. 🙂December 18, 2014 at 1:05 pm in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69462KatieParticipantSteve! If we lived close to each other (assuming we don’t…) I would totally date you (also assuming you would date me lol). You sound like a catch, just going through a bit of the blues at the moment. You might think what would make you feel better will be to find a woman who’s a good match for you, but I think it’s more about you. You probably hit it on the head when you said “it seems I haven’t really focused on mine [happiness] enough.” That’s what you need to do now! Of course I don’t mean neglecting your kids, but make yourself a priority as well. I feel like you are probably a really giving guy in relationships – so if you were to get in a serious one right now, do you think you would be neglecting yourself some more? Tending to her needs and the needs of the relationship and not exploring what it is that truly makes YOU happy….
Also – regarding your ex, have you done any therapy to try to move past that hurt you still feel over the relationship? I understand it frickin SUCKS that she’s such a shitty person. Especially if she’s being a shitty mom to your kids. But it is HER. You are a great dad, a good influence in their lives and thank GOODNESS you are no longer in that relationship!! You did spend a whole lot of time in it, but as Dr. Phil says (can’t help it, I kinda love him sometimes) “the only thing worse than being in a bad relationship for 20 years is being in a bad relationship for 20 years and ONE DAY.”
What kind of music do you like? 🙂
KatieParticipantThanks apothic!
I understand your hesitation to be single – I’m finding myself truly solidly single for the first time in 10 years and it’s a struggle every day not to look for dating prospects lol. BUT I know I need to give myself some time to feel good being alone, so that the next time I am in a relationship, I will not be so scared of it ending and can just enjoy it, rather than try to force it. Does that make sense? I think you deserve someone who you don’t have to doubt or wonder how he feels about you.
YOU have an awesome day as well! 🙂KatieParticipantHoney, you ARE strong. You are on here asking for support because you know this is not what you want. The decision you are faced with is not an easy one for sure!! The reasons you’ve given for struggling with it are all very valid.
I think you just need to take it one step at a time. Right now is not the time to think about whether or not you will have your idea of family. You cannot predict that anyway, so stop. Even if you stay, who knows how much longer you both could spend doing this same old thing. As Dr. Phil always says (sorry if you’re not a fan, but he’s got some good one-liners) “the only thing worse than being in a bad [or just wrong] relationship for 3 years is being in it for 3 years and one day.” You know? Makes a lot of sense. I think right now you just need to check out places to live that are in your budget. Sure, you may not find something equal to what you had before, but it will be YOURS and you will not be waiting for someone else to decide where your life is going. Just because HE is not jumping at the thought of getting married doesn’t mean that YOU are not good enough!! His feelings say absolutely NOTHING about the person you are and your worth.December 17, 2014 at 6:01 am in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69394KatieParticipantSteve,
There were several reasons I hopped off after such a short time. I never got any really nasty messages, but definitely some where I could tell the guy was just throwing out lines at everyone. Mostly though, I realized I wasn’t ready to be dating. I need some time on my own to feel really ok with being alone. So that the next time I’m in a relationship I don’t repeat the same insecure, anxiety based patterns. I think in the past I put everything into relationships and then get terrified that they will end, so I end up smothering and killing it. While I can’t take 100% responsibility for the end of my relationships, I don’t want to do what I have been doing anymore!! The kicker for me realizing I wasn’t ready for online dating was the fact that I started talking to a guy who was an (self-admitted and pretty apparent) alcoholic, didn’t have a job or license, and was clearly drunk every time we talked. Buttttt I thought we had a “connection” so after just talking to him for a couple days I was already starting to think about him and how it could work. And then one morning after staying up way too late talking to him on the phone, and then getting my feelings a little hurt when he abruptly ended the conversation, I asked myself “why the hell are you doing this??!!” Like, why was I sacrificing my sleep, my happiness, my peace….for someone who clearly did not have his shit together and was really just looking for someone to take care of him and fix him. Ughhh sorry so long, but it’s been quite the self-realizing last couple weeks.
I think the last thing you should do is give up hope, Steve. It’s frustrating for sure, and a little scary as well…but there are so many people out there. And there are a lot of good ones. Just because it hasn’t happened now that you are ready for it to happen does not mean that it won’t when the time is right!! You just have to have faith that the love you have is meant to be shared with someone who deserves it. I like being a part of a couple too. Sharing things with someone who’s your best friend and your lover…it’s awesome. I wonder if part of the reason your attitude has shifted is because you’re finding that it’s not as easy to find someone as maybe you thought it would be when you first signed up on the site? So maybe you’re becoming a little more desperate and serious about it – and, as you said – bitter. I can tell you from my short time on the site, I could spot the guys who were jaded and bitter, and I wanted nothing to do with them. I was looking for someone happy in his own life….because that’s where I’m getting to. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with putting the dating thing on the back burner for a while…focusing on things that actually do make you happy. Maybe pick up a new hobby, spend time with friends or family you haven’t seen in a while? Orrr….binge watch tv shows. You can do this for FREE by picking stuff up from the library. 😉
KatieParticipantPersonally, I have been listening to next to nothing other than Fleet Foxes for the past month. They got me through getting my heart broken and now that I’m bouncing back, I still frickin love them. Good times, bad times and everything in between. 🙂
December 16, 2014 at 11:14 am in reply to: Done with online dating. Tired of non-stop rejection #69352KatieParticipantHi Steve!
Massive ego boost for women? No way. Unfortunately, I think any sensitive person (m or f) who is looking for something real is going to have a hard time with online dating. I had some luck with a go-round a few months ago, tried it again a week ago and had to deactivate my profile within a couple days because it was just too depressing and I have too much to grow on before I’m ready for it. Personally, I’ve had to confront the fact that I actually do seem to be drawn to the guys that need some kind of fixing. Guys that are unavailable for one reason or another, even if it’s not readily apparent. I’m still trying to figure out the reason for this, but I am hopeful because I am actually figuring out what the problem is. 🙂
While I wouldn’t say most women go for men with issues, I would say a lot do. For me, I have started tracing this back to patterns with my mom. She’s bi-polar. So lots of emotional ups and downs. All the time. So in some way, I think I have started equating emotional waves and tumultuousness with connection, love and passion. And emotional stability and steadiness with boring/not-connecting/not getting me, etc.
I don’t know what the deal is with the women you’ve contacted, but I would urge you to remain sure of the fact that it is not YOU, it’s THEM. While I’m sure this doesn’t do much to lessen the frustration of it, I think you should remain hopeful that you will find the right person for you when the time is right. Being 100% single for the first time in 10 years freaks me out a little. But when I’m not having my moments of panic (“ahhhh I’m going to be alone FOREVER.”), I can see that this single time right now is really what I need to in order to be able to attract and maintain a truly healthy relationship when the time comes (hopefully sooner than later).
KatieParticipantHi Sapnap,
I just wanted to offer you some support through your struggle. I imagine being in a place that is not home and where you don’t have a support system would be really hard. And then on top of it, you lose your phone – your connection to that support system (!) and you are all of a sudden completely alone and forced to look at yourself. I deal a lot with self hatred too. But, I can say it has lessened considerably in the last couple years as I have come out of hard times stronger. I think that’s what’s happening with you – you are going through some character building, life changing tough times. To me, the fact that you could move to another continent speaks to the fact that you are incredibly strong. You may not see it now, because you are in the thick of it, but believe me – you are STRONG. Your reasons for moving to Ireland don’t matter – the fact that a man that you don’t have contact with anymore played a part in it doesn’t matter. What matters is that you are there now – it is where you are supposed to be. And who knows why – it just is. 🙂
As for the self hate, while I still struggle sometimes, I know what helps was really starting to realize that I would never think about anyone as negatively as I was thinking about myself. And what purpose was my self hate and negative self chatter doing? Abso-freakin-lutely none. It sounds cliche, but when I really embraced and believed it, it helped – we are all different. There is only ONE of you. JUST ONE. That’s amazing. So just be you and love yourself. None of us need more people to put us down, but we can always use more people building us up. Be that to yourself.
Good luck. 🙂
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