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May 19, 2021 at 2:37 pm in reply to: I do not know if I just want to be heard or need some feedback/advice #380100TeeParticipant
Dear Kibou,
no problem, whenever you feel like replying and have enough time and energy – is fine with me.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
thank you for wishing good health to my husband. I hope that vaccine will be efficient and keep at bay potential new variants as well.
I’m sleep walking through life, and I will and want to do every thing to “wake up” and start living.
I’m so glad you have the intention and the desire to start living. You’ve been sleep walking because you’ve been running away from pain, and no wonder, because you had a very traumatic childhood. Please don’t blame yourself. Most of us keep running away till we’re forced to face it – by some crisis, like it happened to you. It’s in human nature. But now is the chance to face it – to face the pain, understand it and heal it — and move forward. That’s the silver lining of each crisis…
I root for you to keep walking on that path. It might be uncomfortable at times, but it’s extremely rewarding to find your true self, to live fully… It seems you’re already making the first steps, Javier, and that’s really beautiful.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
Do you think my longing and regretting not having kids is due to something else? Is there any other”hidden” deeper reason for this hurting?
it could be that you wanted to have children, so you can give them what you didn’t have as a child. You’ve also dreamed of being a grandfather, maybe because grandfather meant a sense of security for you (an imagined sense of security – since your grandparents weren’t alive any more). Children being watched over by their grandfather – not father – could have been a particularly powerful image for you – an image that emanates happiness and security. I’ve already mentioned this is one of my earlier posts – don’t know if it resonates with you?
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
I am glad you’re looking into somatic therapy – it should be able to help. Wish you too find a good match!
Thank you for your kind words, Javier. I am by nature a very anxious person, have been suffering from separation anxiety all my life (I think it has to do with the fact that I was left at my granny’s when I was about 1.5 years old and stayed there for 9 months, with only a few visits by my parents during that time). I’ve also suffered from low self-esteem and feeling not good enough. By working on myself, alone and in therapy, for many years, I’ve managed to mostly conquer my shame and develop a healthy sense of self-worth.
With fear, it’s trickier, and specially covid was a big trigger for me, because my husband has a chronic lung condition and was in a greater danger… the last year, in fact all the way till the vaccination it was very stressful. Now it’s better in that aspect. But there’s always something to worry about – I easily get into the mindset of worrying. I need to consciously remind myself that things aren’t that bad as I imagine them to be. And I pray to God. But there are still challenges in my life, mostly health challenges, which often want to take away my happiness. I need to focus on the present moment and on the things that are good, not on those that aren’t working.
I am not super happy and full of life, exactly because of those health challenges. But I am pushing ahead, trying to do things I love doing, still managing to enjoy many things in life. There’s no other way, because otherwise I could descend into depression by focusing on what’s not working. The greatest point of strength for me is to know that I am not helpless (I used to feel helpless before starting to work on myself – it was my inner child who felt helpless). There’s always something I can do to help myself, to get unstuck.
I think that’s probably the greatest gains of therapy – to free yourself from the sense of helplessness and pitying yourself. To know that you’re an active subject in your life, not a passive bystander and a victim. You sometimes fall, you feel awful and sad, but then in the next moment, or the next day, you pick yourself up and keep going… you don’t stay on the ground, in the dust…
Anyway, this is what comes to mind so far… does it answer your questions?
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
it appears the therapist wasn’t really equipped to help you, and didn’t recognize that you need calming of the nervous system, not just talking about the past trauma, which was re-traumatizing for you.
I wake up every morning depressed and “out of my mind”. I can’t take it anymore. Will the pain ever go away? or will it get worse?
When we’re stuck in trauma, we’re stuck in time, in that old painful reality. This is now exacerbated by you experiencing physical symptoms and living in the same home where the abuse happened. You felt hopeless as a child, you feel hopeless now. Only now, as an adult, you can help yourself. I’d suggest seeking a qualified, somatic therapist, who can help you slowly but surely move out of that stuck, traumatized place, into a new reality. A reality with less pain and more options for yourself.
In somatic therapy the therapist works both with your body and your mind to give the old trauma a new ending, to re-write the imprint in your mind that you’re helpless. I’d strongly recommend something like that, if it’s available to you.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
sermons and audiobooks probably serve a double purpose for you – they calm your nervous system down, and they also give you guidance and inspiration. You had neither during your childhood – neither peace and calm, nor a good role model to give you guidance.
At one moment, I feel there is hope and I can heal myself and relieve the pain. But the very next moment, everything looks grim and literally the end of the road.
Right. You might be able to help yourself to a point, by soothing and comforting yourself, but it’s probably not enough. Probably you’d need a therapist, and best would be somatic therapy, which Katie suggested earlier.
You said you had a bad experience with therapy. Could it be because the therapist didn’t help you calm down your nervous system? If if twas CBT, it would have been quite rational, working with the mind, but not on the body level, which you very much need. If you’d work with a somatic therapist, you could avoid this trap.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Tee.
May 18, 2021 at 8:20 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #380029TeeParticipant* sorry, your sister (you only mentioned one sister)
May 18, 2021 at 8:10 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #380028TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
I am fine, thanks.
I have always been an emotionally sensitive person, so it might have something to do with my relations with everybody around me in my childhood
Would you like to expand on that? As emotionally sensitive, did you feel different than your sisters and in need of special attention or special treatment?
May 18, 2021 at 3:21 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #380024TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
I am sorry you’re still feeling sad and betrayed about him not reciprocating your love. What stands out for me when reading your latest posts is that partially you’re still believing he’d “return” someday. Which means that he’d fall in love with you the same as you did with him, and love you the way you love(d) him. As a boyfriend, not as a friend.
Somewhere i had this strong belief (still do) that he will return on his own someday, because he kept chasing me for a month until I called off the no contact and even since them, he keeps trying to have me around and being there for me. ( I might be wrong to assume this, but it just felt this way strongly).
You’re conflicted because on one hand you believe he’s a narcissist who tries to exploit you for his own purposes:
I still wanted to be around him, but I knew this was just the initial chase that narcissist pull, to get the victim to fall for them again.
I didnt want all this, so, everytime he used to discuss any personal issue or try to act overly caring , I used to ask him to cut the crap (in a politer way).
But on the other hand, you believe that he – even though a narcissist – would change for you. That he would finally see how special you are and choose You before anybody else.
Even though you rationally know it’s highly unlikely that he’d give you what you want, the hope and the craving is still there. It seems to me like a child’s craving for love – to be seen and acknowledged as special in her parent’s eyes. To be worthy for a parent to change for her sake, and to finally love her… Is this feeling familiar to you? (It could also be that I am making a baseless assumption here. If so, I apologize)
But i guess one cant control the process of healing so I guess all I can do is just give myself the love and care I think I deserve.
I believe we can only heal if we understand what caused the wound… if you want to talk about it some more, you’re very welcome. If not, that’s fine too, I totally understand it.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
you’re welcome, and I’m glad you liked Ave Maria and added it to your iPod. It seems listening to sermons and audiobooks was your way to soothe yourself in this past year, since having been hit with illness and unemployment. These new, unwanted life circumstances probably pushed you back to your childhood and activated the old survival trauma, that you experienced as a child. Covid was a trigger but it could be that the symptoms persist because of that trauma, which is stored in your nervous system.
I’ve found a text about children who witnessed domestic violence. It says “when children witness violence, it heightens their arousal system while causing their soothing systems to be underdeveloped.” You as a baby witnessed violence that your father inflicted upon your mother, and later you were a victim of your father’s abuse yourself.
Your autonomic nervous system is in a constant state of arousal and hyper-vigilance. That’s because its sympathetic branch (the one responsible for action and fight-or-flight responses) works non-stop, in overdrive. While the parasympathetic branch (which is responsible for resting and digesting) is underused and underdeveloped.
In that same article, music is suggested as a soothing activity, so I think listening to soothing music and lullabies should help. Sermons and audiobooks probably have a similar effect on you – it’s almost like an adult reading a good-night story to a child, with a calm, comforting voice. Do you feel this could be why you like it so much?
So it seems you’ve already being soothing yourself to the best of your ability, and now you just need to expand it and do it more consciously and intentionally. This is your inner child that you’re soothing and helping him develop the parasympathetic branch of the nervous system. I believe it would also help to visualize a safe, calm atmosphere, like being held in mother’s arms (if not your own mother’s arms, then in Divine Mother’s arms). Do you think you would be up for such a visualization?
And lastly, you’re right – comparing yourself with others is a recipe for disaster. We all have a unique life story and a unique task in this world. It’s completely fruitless to compare ourselves with others. Our goal is to focus on ourselves and our own growth and healing, and living more and more from our true self.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Tee.
TeeParticipantAnother beautiful, soothing song is Ave Maria by Schubert, sung by Celine Dion.
I know you’re not religious but since you’re listening to sermons, it may help you to imagine Virgin Mary watching over you and comforting you, as Divine Mother. It helped me a great deal when I felt unloved, empty and deprived of nurturing love.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
how’s your sleeping nowadays? Can you fall asleep and stay asleep at night? Because that might contribute to your feeling depressed in the morning. In order to fall asleep better, you can try listening to lullabies (I suggested one in an earlier post), or similar soothing music. With better sleep, you should have more energy and be in a better mood in the morning…
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
I have a need to share something else with you, it’s about the kidney pain. It might be related to the fear you’re feeling at the moment, regarding everything you’re going through – existential fear related to your job, fear because of your dog’s illness, fear because you don’t feel supported by your parents (“my parents are monsters”).
It’s okay to feel fear. You’re not weak or less worthy because of that.
I am checking out of feeling sorry for myself and trying to figure things out.
You don’t need to feel sorry for yourself. However, it would help if you could feel compassion for yourself.
I think the difference between pity and compassion is that in pity, you look at your misery and see no way out, and you dig yourself even deeper. With compassion, you look at your misery, you see how you’re suffering, you feel empathy for yourself, but also, you know there’s a way out. With compassion, there’s always a way out. There’s hope. With pity, you stay in your pit (no pun intended…).
I wonder if you can sense the difference between self-pity and self-compassion? If so, do you think you can feel compassion for yourself right now? Just sit with your pain and feel compassion for yourself?
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
so sorry to hear about that! Have they given you some treatment for the rash? Did they say what might have been the cause?
Whenever I have a physical symptom, I try to think what might be its “spiritual” cause, i.e. psychological cause, like in psychosomatic diseases. A sudden rash on your skin might mean that you can’t bear to be in your own skin, or something like that? Perhaps as you started to soothe yourself with putting your hand on your heart, there’s another layer of pain and discomfort that “got unleashed”, because you can now better “tolerate it”, so to speak. It might have been something that needed to come out, and this is a form of cleansing.
I do hope it gets better soon. Keep doing the soothing exercise (hand on heart and belly), if it helps you.
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
you’re welcome, I am glad if my perspective could help you even a bit. I am very sorry to hear about the unexpected turns in your job search and your dog’s illness. If your kidney pain persist, you may want to have a medical check, but as I said, it could be just “energy” pain, signalling you’re in the fight-or-flight mode and that your body is producing a lot of stress hormones.
Take good care of yourself in the time ahead. I wish you good luck with your job search and everything else. Hope to read from you again, and take care!
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Tee.
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