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June 24, 2021 at 8:24 am in reply to: Ex is seeing someone new but won’t close the door for us #381929
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ParticipantDear bren,
I did some soul searching and realized I had a lot going in that way preventing me from being the best partner. It wasn’t my personality that sucked or didn’t match his personality, it was stress/depression/anxiety/thyroid issue over the past 2 years.
I never want to feel the way I felt ever again now that I know I can control it. My therapist said … the changes I am making are going to be life long.
It seems you’ve come to some realizations of how you were contributing to problems in your relationship, and you’ve decided to work on yourself and attend therapy. That’s a great decision and a great plan. You’re working on some deep issues, which will lead to life-long changes, and you becoming a happier, more fulfilled and more authentic person.
What kind of spoils the plan is that you seem to tie your determination to work on yourself with his willingness to get together with you. You’re enmeshed with him, and in this enmeshment you seem conflicted because one part of you is eager to improve and get back together with him:
After realizing what was going on inside of me I found a new confidence and positivity that made me feel like he and I had a potential future because I could fix the feelings i’ve been having.
Hard to accept he would move on so fast to suppress his feelings for me. Hard to accept that we didn’t communicate the past year which really led to the downfall. Hard to let him go. Difficult to shake the feeling in my heart.
But another part wants him to shut the door on you:
I reached out to him to essentially “squash my confidence” aka tell me we had no chance in hell and to just block me after because I had no idea why I felt this way in my heart.
I just don’t understand why he won’t say no.
I just need straight forward answers because it leaves hope still there.
I am trying to convince myself I am holding onto hope, not reality.
How would it be different for you if he would give you a definite No? If he would shut the door on you completely? What would change for you?
June 24, 2021 at 1:52 am in reply to: Ex is seeing someone new but won’t close the door for us #381918Tee
ParticipantDear bren,
when you asked him:
“would you be willing to step back from your situation to allow time for us to spend together?”
did you mean if he would be willing to stop seeing the other woman? And to that, his answer was “I don’t think I can do that”?
If so, he doesn’t really want to risk breaking up with his new girlfriend for a hope of possibly having a better relationship with you in the future. It seems to me he is the type of person who can’t be alone, he needs someone. That’s why he doesn’t want to say No to you either, in case things don’t work out with his new girlfriend. I think that’s the mystery of his being reluctant to say either a clear Yes or No to you. Would you agree with that?
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ParticipantDear Felix,
If it’s a holiday picture, say you’re on a beach, it’s okay if it’s without glasses because it gives an appropriate context – e.g. you’re on a beach, sitting in a beach chair, enjoying yourself. I think in that case no one would be surprised to see you without glasses. So you could achieve what you wanted: attract attention (possibly to your better looks without glasses) without bringing yourself into an awkward situation.
But in that case too, even if posting the photo is “legit”, one thing will happen for sure: you’ll be obsessively thinking about people’s reactions, and the internal saboteur will take over. You won’t be able to feel good about yourself, thinking “I am handsome” and be pleased about yourself, but you’ll worry incessantly. That’s why there’s no point in posting if it will cause you endless worry and anxiety. On the contrary, if you could say to yourself “you know, I am handsome and I want to show it to the world” – then no problem, go ahead and post it.
You see what I mean? Post only if you’re confident about yourself, not if your confidence depends on other people’s reactions.
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ParticipantDear Felix,
when you start analyzing your idea of posting a photo of yourself without glasses, you slip right into obsessive thinking. You want to post it because you think you look better without glasses, but then you immediately come up with various scenarios of how people might react, and how either of your choices (to post or not to post) might backfire. You create a huge mountain of potential problems, which causes you anxiety and wastes your time and energy – your precious time and energy that you could use for something productive. Thinking in this way isn’t helpful – it’s your internal saboteur.
You asked me if it’s wrong to post a picture of yourself without glasses sometime in the future. As we’ve discussed before, what’s important when you post is your intention. If you intend to attract attention so to receive praise and validation from people – because without it you feel bad about yourself – then it’s not a good intention. Because it comes from your wound, from a place of lack. Or if your intention is to make that girl jealous – it also comes from a wounded place, not from a place of healthy self-esteem.
The only good motivation to post a photo without glasses, in my opinion, is if you’ve switched to contact lenses, and this is your new look. Otherwise, if you post it just because you think you look better without glasses – but you wear glasses all the time – I don’t see much point. People might ask you “oh have you switched to contact lenses? And then you’d need to answer “no, I just posted it because…”, and you might find yourself in an awkward situation because you probably don’t want to admit publicly that you think you look better without glasses. So it might cause you unnecessary embarrassment, i.e. unwanted attention.
So whatever you post, ask yourself: what’s my motivation? If it comes from your wound, from needing people’s validation because you feel bad about yourself – don’t post it.
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ParticipantDear Ashmitha,
you’re very welcome. I am so glad you’re feeling better, and that your anxiety and second-guessing yourself about the breakup has passed. I love your clarity about what you want from a relationship:
I know I want a serious relationship that involves effort and genuine interest in me from him, meeting each other’s friends, being public about the relationship on social media and later meeting family. I won’t settle for less than that next time.
Excellent!
You’re also clear about your goals, both for your personal growth and professional success:
I’d like to spend time getting to know myself and healing from my past wounds. I want to find safety and security in myself, rather than others. I want to put my energy into excelling during my Master’s degree and finding a great job next summer when I graduate. I also want to look for a therapist.
Great goals – all of them!
You asked about a therapist – I guess a psychotherapist would be most suitable, better than a social worker or a psychologist, because they’re specifically trained to help people heal the emotional wounds. I personally had an integrative psychotherapist, who combined CBT with somatic therapy and inner child work. That ensured that I not only understood mentally what happened, but that I could heal emotionally too.
It’s great you can share your process with a close friend, who is in a somewhat similar situation, and that you’re doing physical exercise, yoga, etc…
It seems to me you’re in a good place, Ashmitha, having a positive attitude and clarity about what you want in the future. Just keep focused on your goals, and if you experience doubt, know that it’s normal and a part of the process… And post whenever you feel the need <3
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ParticipantDear Frances,
I am sorry to hear that you feel you don’t have a life, while your brother seems to have a wonderful life. You feel you have nothing, while he seems to have it all.
Have you felt similarly in your childhood? Perhaps you felt your brother was getting everything and you nothing?
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ParticipantDear Theresa,
if I am understanding it well, there are several problems that you’re facing at the moment, all related to each other:
1) you are left out of some projects and activities led by the committees you’re on,
2) the committee’s chairperson claims that you didn’t do your job properly on a previous project, even though she didn’t even know what your tasks were on that project,
3) the chairperson has a habit of treating you poorly, accusing you unjustly, talking at you without listening to you, and never apologizing,
4) you got a bad yearly evaluation, and it was because you didn’t know what would be asked from you. You felt you were at a disadvantage because your co-workers (including the one who treats you poorly) were shown how a project should be monitored, and you weren’t, and this lead to you performing worse at the evaluation.
5) In the past couple of years, you were afraid to share your ideas, because you were afraid that they weren’t good enough and that you would fail. Now, after receiving bad evaluation, you shared those ideas with your boss, and he was quite pleased. He shows interest in your work and is cordial with you.
Your biggest fear is that next year you’ll be off the mark again because you won’t know what exactly is wanted from you:
My biggest fear is that I will proceed next year and find out I was way off in what he wants from me. I have always thought I was doing an ok job with the project. I knew it needed improvement, and I was happy to improve and learn whatever I needed to know.
As I see it, the common denominator in these problems is that you often don’t know what is expected from you (but you’re afraid to ask?), and the result is that you don’t perform according to expectations. Or you’re afraid to share your ideas, and then your supervisors believe you aren’t pro-active enough.
It seems like a fear of expressing yourself, and fear of asking for clarification (lack of assertiveness), which then results in misunderstandings and you under-performing. Would that describe what’s going on?
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ParticipantDear Namaste87,
I am sorry that you grew up in a dysfunctional family, witnessing your mother attempting suicide at the tender age of 4, and then being her emotional care-taker, listening to her complaints, trying to console her…
It seems to me you’ve come a long way in healing yourself and understanding what happened to you, and what you need to do to preserve your mental health and your peace of mind. As you say, the proof of your progress is your decision to have a child, after having resisted it in the past, fearing that you may hurt them. You don’t have those fears and nightmares any more – congratulations on a healing work well done!
I often find myself exhausted listening to them over and over again . Most of the times I listen to my mother sympathetically, sometimes I urge her to separate from my father if past memories still haunt her and some mornings like today – I remind her that she is repeating the same stories over the years. She is not someone who will go for therapy either.
You have been listening to your mother’s complaints your whole life, and it drains you emotionally. You cannot help her, because she’s stubborn and sees herself as a victim, and thus, doesn’t want to help herself. I know how it feels, my mother is the same: she feels like a victim, others are to blame, and she doesn’t want to seek counseling.
You’d need to understand that no matter what you say or do, you can’t help her and cannot make her feel better – because her pain comes from within, from her own wounds, not from the outside. It’s true that your father was abusive, but as you say, your mother could have done something over the years to remove herself from the situation. But she hasn’t, and now they are co-dependent. She is living in the past, recycling the old stories and the old pain – reliving the old trauma – without a desire to heal it. She isn’t taking responsibility for herself and her well-being, but is dumping her problems on to you, robbing you of your energy.
So first, you’d need to understand you can’t help her because she doesn’t want to help herself. And second, you’d need to stop feeling guilty for not being able to help her. You’d need to allow her to be in her own pain – since that’s something she is consciously choosing.
You tried giving her advice, you tried helping her financially.. but nothing helps. She says she needs someone to listen to her – well, you listened to her your entire life, and she’s repeating the same old stories, in which she is the victim. There’s no point in listening some more, because it will only make you feel worse: emotionally drained, feeling helpless because you can’t help her and she’s in pain. That’s what makes you feel like crying…
You’d need to separate yourself emotionally from her and not take on her pain, not feel responsible for her pain. You are allowed to be happy even if your mother is in pain. You can have compassion for her and help her when you see the need, but not allow that she uses you for dumping her emotional “garbage”. That’s how I believe you can create boundaries with her.
Let me know how this sounds to you…
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ParticipantDear Ashmitha,
I am sorry you felt bad after the breakup and started questioning yourself. It was to be somewhat expected because being single triggers your old fear – fear of being alone, without protector, without a safe male companion. This guy seemed safe, and he probably was in the sense that he wouldn’t physically abuse you. He had a very calm demeanor – very different from your father. He would never raise his voice, he would never quarrel with you, he would listen calmly and even acknowledge his mistakes (at least with words). This was very appealing to you because it meant he won’t physically harm you, that you’re safe with him, and that should you marry him, you wouldn’t be in danger of domestic violence.
So he didn’t abuse you physically, or verbally, and it sounded promising to you. Probably you weren’t even conscious of it, but his calm, peaceful presence was very important to you. So important that it made you believe he was a good, kind man – even though he was emotionally unresponsive and in fact, abusive. A scared child in you cherished his peaceful presence so much that it clouded your judgement…
Luckily, another part of you (the adult in you) felt that something is off and started questioning his intentions. Little by little, you’ve realized he’s giving you breadcrumbs and this isn’t how a healthy relationship should be.
I had told him I was starting to resent him for ignoring my needs after I expressed them and he said we should break up if I resented him. It had me questioning if I was in the wrong or he was and I was second-guessing my word choice. Like maybe I was rushing him..He said he was doing it for my own good. I felt that insecure part of me after breakups come back.. I thought I had grown since then.
So, your adult part told him you’re resenting him for not meeting your needs and that you want more out of the relationship. Your adult part agreed to break up with him, knowing he’s not willing to change and doesn’t want a serious relationship. That’s the rational part. But then your scared inner child started panicking after she realized that from now on, you’ll be without his peaceful presence. The scared child has only one goal in mind: to feel safe, so you started second-guessing yourself and even tried talking to him again, possibly reconsidering your decision.
The scared inner child is the insecure part that you’re referring to. She wants to feel safe, and feels threatened when alone. That’s why I told you to try to tend to this scared part, which needs to feel physically safe. Try to be a good parent to her, protecting her and telling her she’s safe with you. If you have a doll, you may want to stroke her hair and take her into your arms to protect her.
You say “I thought I had grown since then“. You grew in understanding, but not necessarily emotionally. The scared inner child is still in you… and needs to be soothed. You need emotional healing, and I hope the inner child work can help you with that.
As for advice for dating in the future – my advice is to first heal your emotional wounds (primarily the fear of being alone), and only then seek a new relationship. You’ve already started working on your other big fear: fear of confrontation, i.e. of expressing your needs, which was another obstacle in your relationships. You had a break-through in expressing your needs, and I think it was a huge step for you. How do you feel now about expressing your needs? Do you feel you’re stronger and more able to do it in the future as well, or there is still some fear and insecurity around that?
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ParticipantDear Hale,
I am very glad you’re feeling better after anita’s encouraging words: One day I will become that person you smiled upon”- you are already that person, just need to … love her truly, and she will shine, like you want her to.
You started this thread proclaiming you’re pathetic, and that it feels good to express it. Do you still want to describe yourself as pathetic, or it has shifted somewhat?
Even though I was criticized as a child and treated harshly I was still loved. I may not have been treated any harsher than my peers but I was very sensitive to every slight. There was a lot of public humiliation as discipline and I’ve began the process of retraining myself.
Public humiliation is a very hard thing for a child. It really kills our self-esteem. Do you feel like sharing some more about it? How did it happen (was it related to you performing, e.g. playing an instrument?) It could very well be that public humiliation and criticism is what makes you believe you make a horrible first impression and are a “cringe worthy” human being.
By the way, “pathetic” is what your inner critic says about you (and perhaps what your parents and/or teachers made you believe about yourself). Your inner critic is harassing your inner child, who wants to be loved, be seen and be validated…
June 21, 2021 at 11:37 pm in reply to: He cheated on his girlfriend with me, but dumped me for her in the end #381840Tee
ParticipantDear Emma,
I wouldn’t exactly say persuade per se, I would usually ask him if going separate ways is what he wants. And he will reply back with something like “I know it’s the right thing to do, but I don’t want to let you go”
He would initiate the breakup, and then you would question his decision – you asked him if that’s what he really wanted. A part of him didn’t want it, since there were issues in his relationship, and you provided an escape/relief for him. That’s why he didn’t want to let you go, although he knew he’s hurting his girlfriend. The desire to feel good was stronger, so he chose to stay with you. But it was you who persuaded him, i.e. encouraged him to stay: had you accepted his wish (to do what’s right, as he put it), he would have left, or at least, he wouldn’t have changed his mind so easily.
I do feel anger towards the girlfriend as I feel that she shifted the entire blame onto me. It’s as though she was saying that if I hadn’t listened to him, he would have never cheated on her. But if a man has the intention to cheat, if it wasn’t with me then it would have been with some other victim.
You’re not the only one to blame. It’s easier for them to find a scapegoat in you – like, he is so innocent and you seduced him. That’s obviously not what happened. He is very much responsible too. But it’s true that you wanted the relationship to go on, even when he tried to break up. And I think that’s because you believed he truly loved you, not her.
But on my part, I’ve always told him that if I am not the one he wants to be with or if he is happy in his relationship or he truly does love her… then go and be with her/we should not continue.
I’ve never begged/pleaded him to stay with me or to come back to me either. All I wanted was just the truth.
You didn’t beg him, you wanted him to choose her “if he really loves her”. But since he “didn’t really love her”, in fact he told you he loved you, you believed this was the truth. This “truth” – that he loves you and not her – had a greater importance for you than another truth, which is that he was in a relationship with another woman during the entire time he was with you.
You felt bad being the third party:
I never felt good about being a third party and I would always question if he was truly unhappy with his girlfriend. I did not enjoy being the other woman and did not want to come in between two people who were looking to build a future together.
You felt bad but you didn’t want to let him go, because you believed he loves you and doesn’t love her. And that that’s the only thing that matters – the only relevant “truth”. It blinded you to a bigger picture. Which is that 1) he had a girlfriend, 2) he wanted to break up with you multiple times, and 3) after almost 1,5 years, he was still with his girlfriend, showing no signs of leaving her.
That’s why I said it was infatuation. Definition of infatuation is: “a feeling of foolish or obsessively strong love for, admiration for, or interest in someone or something: strong and unreasoning attachment”. It seems to me that your love for him was foolish and obsessively strong, considering that it wasn’t reciprocated properly. But you didn’t want to see that he wasn’t reciprocating and was stringing you along – you only focused on his words: “I love you”.
Our emotions have the power to blind us to a higher truth, or the reality of the situation. You say you genuinely loved him, and I believe you. You developed a strong attachment to him. You might want to consider what was so attractive about him, and what he was giving you, that you were willing to be the second violin for such a long time?
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ParticipantDear Jenny,
good to read from you! I am glad you’re doing good, not obsessing about him, and instead, focusing on your own life, doing things you enjoy, such as singing. It seems you’re much more in control of your life and able to regulate your emotions, and this gives you a sense of power and peace. That’s great!
Regarding your self-esteem, now that I think about it again, it could be that what you had was self-confidence – in that you saw yourself as successful in other areas of your life, such as career and friends, and you felt pretty good about yourself because of that. But deep down, you probably did lack self-esteem, because that’s a core characteristic that is formed in our relationship with our parents. If you haven’t felt special and valued by your parents, if you were criticized a lot, your self-esteem couldn’t have developed properly.
Self-esteem runs deeper than self-confidence. It’s that deep sense of worth, a sense that we’re valuable, just because we exist. It doesn’t depend on any outer achievement. It could be that deep down you did lack self-esteem, and needed your mother (i.e. your boyfriend) to give it to you – to tell you and show you that indeed, you are special to him. That was your inner child desperate for validation. The way out is what I said earlier – to see yourself as valuable and special, and not expect validation from other people, including romantic partners.
How is your own sense of worth at the moment? Do you see yourself as valuable and special – not because of any outer accomplishment but just because?
June 21, 2021 at 8:22 am in reply to: He cheated on his girlfriend with me, but dumped me for her in the end #381801Tee
ParticipantDear Emma,
I am not judging you – you fell in love with this guy even before you knew he was in a relationship, and when you found out, you were already deep in, and you fell for his story: that he’s unhappy with his girlfriend, that she’s controlling, suffocating him, very jealous, and that he wants out. You didn’t see him as a cheater (even though he was lying to you for the first 3 months of your relationship) but you saw him as a victim: “It reminded me of a toxic relationship I was in during my younger days and I emphatized with his plight“.
You wanted him so badly (“I was too emotionally invested and head over heels in love with him.“), that it blinded you to everything else. Even when he wanted to break up with you, it never really lasted because 1) he would reach out to you and you’d accept him back, and 2) he would “reconsider his decision when we meet up for closure and talk things out”. Which tells me that you might have persuaded him not to leave you? That your “closures” would lead to rekindling the relationship, even though he, at least in theory, wanted to end it?
What makes me say this is that after your last breakup, you couldn’t accept it – you texted him and called him from different phone numbers, and you also turned up at his place and demanded explanations and closure. You didn’t want to let him go, you couldn’t believe that he can simply discard you from one day to the other, “like yesterday’s garbage”.
It seems to me you’ve developed a very strong attachment to him. You desperately wanted to be with him, and it seems like you believed your love (between him and you) was real, while theirs was a fake and a lie. You fought for your “true love” passionately – both when he tried to break up with you in the past, and now, when he did break up for good, as it seems.
Am I seeing this right?
It can very well be that their love still isn’t real and is burdened by many things, and that their new-found happiness is fake. But you would need to understand that what you had wasn’t “true love” either, since he was lying to you, and then both of you were lying to her. When there is dishonesty involved, and it’s going on for quite a long time, it cannot be true love. It was infatuation on your part, and it’s what made you react so strongly and passionately, believing you’ve got the real thing.
What do you think about what I’ve just said? Does it resonate?
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ParticipantDear Ashmitha,
good decision! Interesting how he’s now suddenly admitted that he doesn’t want a serious relationship, and earlier he got “hurt” when you asked him if he was stringing you along. It seems to me he has been manipulative all along, but when he couldn’t fool you any more, when you demanded better treatment, he realized there’s no point and swiftly accepted the breakup.
Anyway, you’re much better without him! I am glad you felt peace after the breakup. It confirms it was a good decision… If you start feeling fear and anxiety rising now that you’re single, try to tend to your inner child and comfort her, telling her she’s not alone. And post again whenever you feel the need!
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ParticipantDear Felix,
I am glad you liked the scratching the itch analogy, and that it helped you understand your mind better. Also, that you’ll do some jogging or walking in the near future. Do you have some green areas in the vicinity of your housing complex?
it really has a positive effect on me like from the girl problem i can finally realize that i’ve been so close minded that i only focused on getting her attention without realizing that i’m embarrassing myself, now i’m always looking at something in a bigger picture. .. I finally know that i dont need to get unnecessary attention to be happy.
That’s great, Felix, that you don’t have this craving to impress anyone, including the girl you liked, and that you don’t need other people’s approval to be happy. That’s truly precious!
But to realized all of this, i’ve to suffer pain… does this world really works this way? Like in order to be a better person we’ve to go through pain and struggles? Does there really a person who become a better person without pain and struggles?
Yes, the world and us people really work like that. We only change when we’re forced to. We only learn on our own mistakes (and sometimes not even then!), and not on other people’s mistakes. Some spiritual traditions call it “the school of hard knocks”. And also, we grow and become better people through pain and struggle. That’s the law of life.
Rare are the people who spontaneously realize that they could improve their character. We’re usually faced with relationship problems, or fears and anxiety, or anger management issues, or the inability to advance in our career because of low self-esteem etc etc – and this forces us to change. There’s always some problem, some obstacle we face, and in order to overcome it, we need to change. That’s life, that’s how growth happens.
i’m hoping that i’m taking the right path in being a better and more mature person as i grow older. Also i hope this right path will save my dignity after all that embarrassment on social media (pls say yes
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You’re becoming more and more self-aware, Felix, and it’s a pleasure to see. You’ve understood some of your childhood programming, and why your self-esteem was so low. You’re now slowly but surely developing self-esteem, learning that you’re worthy, that you don’t need other people’s approval to feel good about yourself. You’re also willing to work on yourself, gain a sense of accomplishment, work toward calming your anxious mind etc. You’re on the right path, Felix, and are getting more mature with every passing day.
We can change – that’s the beauty of being human. You’re changing, you’re becoming more and more of your true self. Just keep going, with lots of patience and compassion for yourself, doing little steps that will make you feel good internally, happy and pleased about yourself, and more and more at peace… As I said, I am rooting for you!
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