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May 17, 2022 at 9:35 pm #400572AnonymousInactive
Sleep well Anita. Thank you.
May 17, 2022 at 10:15 pm #400573AnonymousInactiveI also wanted to say Anita, thank you. Thank you so much. I am so grateful for you. You are an amazing person. Thank you.
May 17, 2022 at 11:47 pm #400577HelcatParticipantHi Lea
I’m so sorry that you have to deal with your sister’s bullying on a daily basis and that your parents refuse to intervene. That must be really triggering. Did your parents also refuse to intervene when you were bullied at school?
I can understand your fears regarding people, but there are some kind people out there!
I think the difficulty making friends as adults is that we all have our own priorities in life. People might be busy or forgetful.
I can understand feeling a little safer around someone older than you. I also feel safer around people who are older than me. It sounds like you feel a little safer working with people. I am the same way because there is a level of professionalism. There are certain ways that we are not allowed to treat people at work. I wonder if a volunteer work environment might be an option to consider?
I don’t think you are playing the victim, you have dealt with a lot of pain in your life.
May 18, 2022 at 7:47 am #400584AnonymousInactiveHi Helcat! How are you?
yeah dealing with my sister is difficult. It’s not necessarily because they refuse to intervene it’s that my sister doesn’t listen so they kinda gave up. she wasn’t always like this. I’ve tried to talk to her and she just screams at me and tells me to shut up and go away because I’m stupid and dumb. What I experienced at school was not considered bullying to the school authorities. For some reason I never told my parents about some of the things I experienced. My fear is that I wouldn’t be taken seriously. Even now as a 19 year old I’m often not taken seriously by them. I think I told my parents when I got locked in a closet and when a kid threatened to burn my house down (they just said they’re a kid, they’re not going to burn your house down but I was scared for weeks) but other than that? I didn’t tell them about when I was punched in the face, threatened to be choked, I didn’t tell them about the names the kids used to call me at school (dirty pig, dirty cow, cows etc.) and I sure didn’t tell them about the bullying I received when I volunteered at a summer camp and the 27 year old bullied me. When i was bullied by my senior running coach instructor she just brushed it off and said that’s weird (the instructor said stuff like ‘I’m glad you weren’t here I got to spend time with my favorite student blank’ ‘we only brought you along because you always bring good snacks’ ‘you talk too much’ ‘shut up’ ‘you aren’t a very good runner, this person is better than you’) I stopped running after that and I don’t run anymore.When I asked my mom for therapy she told me ‘I don’t know why you want to go you have no trauma’ in my parents eyes I’m the ‘victim who always talks about bad things and ends up in a pity party’ I occasionally bring things up and they just shut me down. I know that talking about things that have happened that were bad isn’t always the best thing, but there are things that I still haven’t processed.(I feel uncomfortable saying that I have trauma but I’ve experienced stuff) I believe that the more what I’ve gone through is denied, the more I’ll actually subconsciously play the victim because no one will acknowledge that I am struggling with everything I experienced as a kid.
I am actually signing up to volunteer soon! I won’t see a ton of people in this volunteer job. I have been ridiculed by people older than me my running coach who was in their 70’s etc. I’m not sure why but usually I do feel safer with people older than me. Anyone who is my age feels like a ticking bomb- when are they going to leave me, hurt me or break me? Hard to say. Older people usually are mature enough to not just… but anyway thank you Helcat. I appreciate it.May 18, 2022 at 8:34 am #400585HelcatParticipantHi Lea!
I’m a bit anxious at the moment because I had an assessment today and I have a job interview tomorrow. But I will be okay!
It might help your mom to understand what you are going through if you finally share with her the details of the horrific bullying issues you have been through.
Your school lied to you. These incidents are serious and your parents shouldn’t have dismissed being locked in a cupboard.
Personally, I’ve seen a very kind teacher bullied by students who locked her in a cupboard after she went inside. She broke down crying when they refused to let her out. This was an adult woman, imagine how that affects a child.
It’s not right that they don’t take you seriously.
I understand that you are uncomfortable saying that. But based on what you have shared you were verbally abused at school as well as by your sister and a coach. And physically abused at least twice.
Verbal abuse includes insults, threats and yelling amongst other things. Please feel free to Google and read about it if you haven’t already.
The impact of consistent verbal abuse is quite severe. It shapes our minds, how we think and feel about ourselves and the world around us. I have seen many people traumatised by bullying.
It is good that you have been talking about the harmful experiences that you went through in a safe place where they are not denied.
I’m curious, what kind of volunteer job are you considering? I wish you the best of luck with it and hope you enjoy it!
I understand that feeling. I was assaulted in university by another student that I trusted. I have difficulty interacting with people my own age. I would agree, older people are generally more mature and polite. Though there are exceptions.
May 18, 2022 at 9:14 am #400586AnonymousGuestDear Lea:
First, I will summarize much of what you shared in the posts you submitted yesterday and today, in this thread (with quotes): you started with “It’s getting worse“- you were very frustrated yesterday about not having done school work. You had a panic attack. Panic attacks usually include “shaking uncontrollably, rocking back and forth. I end up in small spaces like under my desk, or I have a strong urge to go to a small space“. You listed the following as your dissociation symptoms, which you say are more horrible for you than the panic attacks: “pacing in circles, foggy mind, bad memory, foggy vision, tiredness, trouble connecting with people, mind wanders to weird places, head in a fog“.
You shared: “I NEVER study in public places because it’s too distracting and I pick up on the tiniest sounds, conversations I’m also quite sensitive to light“.
Earlier yesterday, you had a long conversation with a co-worker. You remember that during your conversation, your vision was blurry and after the conversation, you didn’t remember what the conversation was about: “It was like my brain wasn’t recording. When I’m alone, I’m usually fine“.
You shared that your much younger sister (12) has been abusive toward you (19) for years: she calls you names every time she sees you, every day (ex., “oh Lea’s so stupid, Lea is so slow because she doesn’t have a brain“), sometimes she hits you and steals from you. Both your parents gave up on stopping the abuse: “my sister doesn’t listen, so they kinda gave up“. Both your parents are dismissive of you, of your emotions and of your emotional needs: “When I asked my mom for therapy she told me ‘I don’t know why you want to go you have no trauma’ in my parents eyes I’m the ‘victim who always talks about bad things and ends up in a pity party’’“.
You shared for the first time, I think, that the career you are working toward is veterinary medicine (how exciting!), and that you currently work as a field biologist. I remember that you shared before, regarding your studies, that you have to go through a lot of boring stuff before you can get to the interesting part.
The second part of this post is more of my thinking this morning in regard to what you shared (I read your post in the other thread and will reply to you there in a few hours):
You are a very intelligent 19-year old. And you are very kind. Considering the lack of parental support, and the resulting anxiety that you suffer from, you are quite amazing! Focus on your strengths, not on your weaknesses: you are a capable young woman, able to study toward an exciting career, to work in the field and in the farm, raising cows, etc.
Give yourself credit for your successes!
Many of the anxiety symptoms that you mentioned, including the hypersensitivity to sound and light, I have suffered from those as well. The good news is that all of my anxiety symptoms either no longer exist, or significantly improved over the last few years. But it didn’t magically happen. It happened because (1) I am no longer abused, (2) I attended psychotherapy and did the work over the last ten years.
I know that there is no way for you to wake up tomorrow and … voila! The anxiety is gone!
This is especially true when your sister abuses and harasses you every day and your parents dismiss the abuse, your emotions and your emotional needs.
You repeatedly wrote that you can’t afford therapy and that your parents are not supportive of you receiving therapy, claiming that you don’t need it, when clearly, you do! You nonetheless have an appointment for therapy in September because you insisted on it (another one of your successes)!
You suggested that your sister cannot control herself, being explosive and suffering from mental and physical disorders. But if your parents adequately intervened, I tend to think that it would be possible for her to stop calling you names, hitting you and stealing from you. If you were able to make her stop these behaviors, that would be very helpful to you (and to her).
I don’t know how it can be possible for you to be less anxious when your sister abuses you every time she sees you. Do you?
anita
May 18, 2022 at 10:13 am #400590AnonymousInactiveAnita, hi!!!
thank you for your replies. Everything you said is correct except the therapy appointment in September. (I wish!!) I have a physical exam in September, like a routine doctors appointment. I’m hoping I can get an ADHD diagnosis or anxiety diagnosis then maybe my parents can see that I need help. Maybe I’d be able to get help for my ADHD too!
Yes. My parents especially my mom both has really rough childhoods. My mom had it really rough. She was seriously physically abused at school- but I don’t know too much. she’s scared because she seems to think that any issues I’m having are directly her fault. I think they also believe that I don’t need therapy/counseling because they (my parents) had it worse than me. My mom shared with me that she went to therapy. Judging from the way she speaks about it it was a bad experience for her. I even told her once “mom not all therapy is bad or not helpful. Just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean that all therapy is bad.”
she did actually offer to take me. I was happy until she said: “we must have done something wrong to cause you trauma” which is when I realized she was entertaining me and manipulating me into feeling bad and just dropping it. I dropped the idea telling her I was fine. And she insisted continuing to say things like “but you need help” “it’s been a really rough go”mu sister. Yeah I’ve tried everything. I’m very nice to her. Very nice. I’ve tried to encourage her to get some help, or to join clubs as she’s very social but she ends up snapping at me if I say something she doesn’t directly want to hear. I’ve tried paying her to stop, I’ve tried screaming at her, I’ve tried doing this for her to make her feel guilty for being mean, I’ve tried making her breakfast and doing things for her. I try to avoid her. Because that’s all I can do. I hate having family meals because she just says stuff to me. If I say something back my mom is stern with me and says ‘you’re the older one that was rude. Be mature why does it matter what she thinks?’ So I end up apologizing. If my parents saw how she was to me when we were alone maybe they would try harder.
I think you’re right. don’t think it’s possible for me to be less anxious when I’m in the midst of it all. But I don’t know what to do. I tried telling my mom yesterday that it was affecting me but she just said ‘why do you care?’
I can’t move out because my big animals are still here at my parents house. I have two pet cows that I raised from caves that I care about very much. I also have my big dog he’s a giant Bernese mountain dog so he’s a big boy. They kept me alive in times I didn’t know if I was going to make it. I can’t leave them. My parents have told me that my pets can stay while I go to school but I would go to school very far from home and never see my pets. I also can’t afford to move myself yet. Someone on another forum site told me to just ‘move in with my boyfriend’ which is funny because I don’t have a boyfriend and I never have had one. I told them that and they just told me I was doomed to live through this until I could get out. So I don’t know. I really don’t know. I don’t know.
thank you Anita. I hope you are well.May 18, 2022 at 10:22 am #400591AnonymousInactiveHelcat, first of all I’m so sorry to hear that you went through an assault. You are a wonderful individual. As for my volunteer job I’m volunteering at a local animal shelter cleaning cadges and whatnot. I think I really will enjoy it. I love animals. They have saved my life. animals are really incredible. I’m working towards veterinary medicine because I want to help animals in return. cows are so loving and gentle. My big Bernese mountain dog is so empathetic. I really am excited. I wish you luck on your assessment and job interview. I believe in you!
May 18, 2022 at 2:28 pm #400603AnonymousGuestDear Lea:
You are welcome. I am corrected: it’s a physical medical exam that’s scheduled for September, not a psychotherapy.
“I think they also believe that I don’t need therapy/counseling because they (my parents) had it worse than me” – parents often think this way, but from your descriptions: you hhave it pretty hard yourself, probably not better than your parents did, maybe worse. Maybe comparing is useless, because bad feels bad no matter the circumstances around bad.
“my sister. Yeah I’ve tried everything. I’m very nice to her. Very nice. I’ve tried to encourage her to get some help, or to join clubs as she’s very social but she ends up snapping at me… I’ve tried screaming at her…” – seems like you tried everything and without your parents’ taking charge, there is nothing that you can do.
I don’t know what to say at this point, your situation is difficult: an abusive sister, two non-supportive parents who do not take charge of problems so to work through them and find solutions… not being able to move out…
You raised two calves, now cows as pets? So… their future is to remain pets till old age?
anita
May 18, 2022 at 3:16 pm #400605AnonymousInactiveHi Anita, yeah it’s difficult. My parents are trying they just are so busy in their own work and stuff that they miss a lot. Yes! I’ve had my cows for 9 years. I got them when I was ten. Originally when I was 10-12 they were my 4H projects. When I’m upset I go out to the barn with my dog, and I just sit in the stall with my cows, and I just cry in the corner and tell them what’s going on. I raised these cows I would get up very early to give them their bottles and such. They’re so gentle, When they’re laying down and you’re giving them head scratches they’ll put their head in your lap. It sounds weird but I’ve been doing that for years and years. My sister doesn’t like going in the barn. my mom never goes to the barn unless I ask her to.
I was thinking about it this morning, and remembered a big key part in my issues at school. So I figured I’d share it.
Quick background: I moved to a new school when I was in fifth grade. and that’s when people started calling me names and such. I was called a lot of names. I actually don’t remember most of what they said to me but all I know is that it was bad. I remember being called smelly, dirty, (because I had cows) they had a pet name for me and they just called me cows, plural. They can call me by my name they called me cows. I was threatened, i’d had stuff thrown at me sometimes not too much though, I had one particular kid who liked to do very violent things, as I mentioned in an earlier post I was tackled punched, threatened to be choked. does violent kid change schools for the next year six grade so he wasn’t there when I went into grade 6.
what I forgot to mention, was sixth grade.
in sixth grade I became ‘friends’ with this new kid. And he took it upon his personal mission to hurt me in every way. Every morning I got there before him, so when he would arrive he would come and find me anywhere on the playground outside before school, he would sneak up behind me, grab my backpack or my shoulder, pull me towards him and then push me away from him.Often times I would fall over, I remember having scraped knees from falling on concrete. I remember there was a point where my backpack strap snapped because he pulled on it every day. He would do it over and over I’d be trying to walk and he’d be pulling and pushing me. He like to sneak up behind me, One time I was walking down a set of stairs and he kicked me in the butt and I fell down the stairs. I just remember being really sore.
I briefly remember him pulling my hair, but that didn’t happen very much. he liked to follow me around I couldn’t get rid of him. I’d try to avoid him and he come find me somewhere on the playground.
but yeah I remember every morning, he would come up behind me- every morning for almost a year grab me usually my backpack, and push me over. We have to wear uniforms at the school, and often I had to wear white pants he would push me over and my pants would get grass stains, my poor mom would end up scrubbing the grass stains out of my pants.
I don’t think I ever told them that he would push me every day. The teachers didn’t really see a concern with that cause I remember having a conversation with them.
In addition to him pushing me, I remember him constantly berating me. I would say something whether it be to him or not, and he would always have something to say about it. I would voice some opinion and he would be like no that’s wrong- I’m right here’s the facts to back me up. he followed me everywhere at school. Not to the bathroom but everywhere else. In the years after 6th grade- he tried to barricade me in a room alone with him. he stood in front of the door and started to close it. I remember completely freaking out and basically pushing him out of the way as hard as I could and running.
He liked to take away my space, I remember one time he somehow got me trapped in a corner and he was standing in front of me and he was trying to convince me that we should be dating. I’m quite tall for a female, i’m about 5 10-5 11 even then- I was about that tall this was in high school and he was about 6 feet tall, he kept me trapped in that corner for quite a long time, before I tried to leave and he kept grabbing me. I was just like no no no. Bye leave me alone. He scared me.
I remember having a conversation with a teacher about him trying to get me in a corner.
Then he started blaming me for every problem that he had. One time I was in the same lunch room as him eating my lunch peacefully. And his nose started bleeding, and he went up to the teacher and told them that I hurt him and made his nose bleed. Guess what the teacher came over and got mad at me. Luckily I didn’t get the detention or anything.
People had a fun habit of throwing chairs at me- I remember him throwing a few chairs at me.
There be times where he would just try to grab my arm or my shoulder. Everyone just said oh you know he’s just a boy, he’s immature he’ll grow out of it. And so I was like okay this is normal.
thinking back having people push you over every day probably isn’t normal.
He would tell me that I was wrong, that I shouldn’t have an opinion that I was dumb, say things like: I was stupid, that I was fat, that I had a bad taste in music. he harassed me to give him my phone number, which I never did.he constantly would call me a bad friend, a bad person. every time I would try to tell him that I can’t be is ‘friend’ anymore he would tell me he had no other friends and he had nobody else and I was the only one who was there for him. I was ‘friends’ with him until 10th or 11th grade. When he transferred to a different school.
May 18, 2022 at 8:25 pm #400659AnonymousInactiveIt’s been a really rough week. I haven’t done any schoolwork all week and I have a ton of deadlines for the end of the month. I feel locked in my head. I feel so guilty and anxious and upset I’m paralyzed by it.
It’s Wednesday almost Thursday and I haven’t picked up a single school work item. I have essays to write a note to do, text books to read questions to answer- and yet it seems I’m incapable of doing any of those things. I don’t think I’ve ever felt more useless or stupid in my entire life. how hard is it to do the stupid schoolwork? There’s obviously something wrong with me. my brain can’t compute I can’t take notes- it seems like so much work. Just thinking about writing an essay makes me wanna curl up into a ball and start crying. I am so upset and so guilty about it but I feel paralyzed.
I’m months behind on my schoolwork because of this and usually I can think of something to make myself do it but I can’t do anything right now. I don’t want to do it, but I do at the same time . I know I need to just do it. My mom says ‘just sit down and get it done’ I can’t even begin to express how stupid, useless, unworthy, brainless and worthless I feel. I’m bawling as I write this. most of all I’m really sad I feel so hopeless and useless.
I had to stop writing there too have a quick panic attack. I don’t know what to do I’m so scared.
May 18, 2022 at 8:41 pm #400662AnonymousGuestDear Lea:
What if you don’t study; what if you miss the deadlines… what will happen? Nothing, really, right?
I mean, all your distress, what is it really about? The world will be the same regardless of if you study, or not. No?
* Will soon go to bed, and be back in about 10 hours.
anita
May 18, 2022 at 9:27 pm #400664AnonymousInactiveDear Anita:
This is an interesting question- I’m not sure how to answer- If I come off defensive that is not what I intend. I don’t know what would happen genuinely. I could imagine that what would happen would be: I would wreck my entire career and life. If I missed the deadlines I wound be a failure, and everyone would hate me. Plus I would be disappointing my younger self. I’m too scared to fail. I guess eventually I’ll do my work at the last minute and cause myself a ton of stress. Sleep well Anita.
May 19, 2022 at 1:32 am #400667HelcatParticipantHi Lea!
You can do this because despite your anxiety you have done it time and time again and maintained excellent grades. The anxious thoughts are ultimately mean lies your mind is telling you.
Some people like to imagine those words being said in a silly voice by a small and or something that they don’t respect.
I would suggest starting with the least stressful item of school work.
Please consider all of the times you overcame your anxiety and ultimately succeeded. How did you achieve this before? I have faith that your same inner strength will help you once again.
You have all of the skills necessary to achieve this. It will not be easy or comfortable but nothing worth doing ever is.
You are going to become a talented vet!
May 19, 2022 at 7:11 am #400676AnonymousInactiveThank you Helcat. Thank you so much.
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