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  • #338688
    Anonymous
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    Dear Gaia:

    This is part of the healing process: “Before, I only knew it logically, now I know it”. It is the knowing aka learning on the logical and the emotional level.

    Remember a few posts ago I wrote to you what your ideal professional help will look like? Part of it, restated here is: if you suffer too intensely, if you are too anxious, psychotherapy will not work. You will need to see a medical doctor/ a psychiatrist so to be prescribed with medication that will significantly lower your suffering/ anxiety. After that is done (and the relief and improvement if feeling can happen in the same day, in a few days or a few weeks), then you can sit in a psychotherapist’s office calm enough to be able to focus.

    Even without considering psychotherapy, if you suffer too intensely, you should see a doctor for relief, so you don’t suffer anymore, or that you suffer way less. I suggest that you see a psychiatrist and if he doesn’t suggest it first to you, ask him about the SSRI group of anti- depressant drugs that many millions of people in the US and Europe are prescribed for obsessive thinking (OCD), not only for depression.

    Please make an appointment as soon as possible. Let me know when you do that, will you?

    (And regarding the fear of you getting a heart attack or a stroke- it is fear on top of fear, an escalation of fear, not a sign of real physical trouble leading to a heart attack or a stroke).

    anita

     

    #338884
    Anonymous
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    Dear Gaia:

    How are you???

    anita

    #340584
    Gaia
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    Hi Anita

    (Sorry for mistakenly reporting again btw)

    How are you?

    I’m sorry if it seems like I just dropped the thread, sometimes I feel like I need to be by myself and then come back when I actually have something meaningful to say or add. When we last talked about therapists and medications I felt like I reached a wall, a closed off road, I had nothing else to do for my own growth or nothing else to add on this thread, besides going in circles. I still feel the same but as I said, sometimes I need my quiet time to share later what I’ve done or thought about.

    Also sometimes (or better, most of the time) I’m just disorganized like that. I randomly pull off from others and conversations, I go where my very fried brain push me, that most of the time is in complete intertia and lethargy.

    #340586
    Anonymous
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    Dear Gaia:

    I am fine, as fine as I can be. I understand the frustration about “going in circles”.

    “I still feel the same”, you wrote, having “reached a wall, a closed off road”-

    – Fantasy is one way to go around a wall, or jump straight up into the sky, lie down of a fluffy white cloud among the stars, no walls.

    – Reality is another way to go around a wall, seeing reality is it is.

    It is easy to go the fantasy route, difficult to go the reality route.

    anita

    #340630
    Gaia
    Participant

    Lately I’m not really hiding in fantasy, actually. I know one of my biggest issues is the fact that I zone out, I numb out and live in my little mind, I’ve tried to be more present and be aware of when I slip into numbing habits. I’ve noticed when difficult feelings arise and I’ve let them be, I’ve let boredom, anger, frustration express themselves without trying to distract myself. What I’ve gathered is that an entire life (and childhood especially) spent on electronic devices or neglected at doing my own thing without be helped aquiring usefully skills and social skills/experiences has left my brain really disorientated and confused, it has left me without a formed identity and sense of self.

    My parents were both distant somehow and this left me neglected, or too self sufficient, I guess I experienced them both abandoning and intrusive (my mom in this case, as we’ve explained plenty)

    #340656
    Anonymous
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    Dear Gaia:

    You made progress being “more present and be aware”, and letting your feelings “express themselves without trying to distract” yourself.

    I just read the first post you made on this thread, Sept 2019:”I can be utterly enraged, shamed and revengeful over nothing… there’s no means I can express my emotional storms and mental conflicts and thoughts outside, with someone that either understands or can be trustworthy”-

    – why not express it right here on your thread. I know we talked about things but you didn’t express your emotions freely. I think you always tried to contain yourself, holding yourself back. How about this exercise: get yourself ready (maybe being alone in your room with the computer, no interruptions) and type away anything and everything that comes to your mind, all the anger, all the hate, all those “violent thoughts and emotions” you mentioned in that first post of this thread, keep typing away the experience of “feeling pulled and disintegrated by several conflicting parts”.

    Don’t censor yourself, type away, and when you are done, relax, then go back to what you typed and make a few edits, just so to take away particular descriptions of violence and adding *** to certain words, like f*** instead of the word itself. Then submit it.

    anita

    #340662
    Gaia
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    The reason I seem contained is because this is a public thread and reveal very personal stuff that everyone can read and make their own opinion about, is uncomfortable to me. That’s why I try to stay more “vague” possible. By the way, I’m definitely going to do the exercise you suggested

    #340666
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Gaia:

    So you are going to do the exercise, excellent! Regarding feeling uncomfortable it being a public thread, worrying about other people’s opinions about you- why does it matter. I mean, it is you and I who are communicating and have been communicating for so long. You can trust me to not use your words against you.

    You wrote last year (same quote above): “there’s no means I can express my emotional storms.. with someone that either understands or can be trustworthy”-

    – I  understand (and if I don’t, I ask question, and/ or you can correct my understanding) and I am trustworthy!

    So go ahead.

    anita

     

    #340956
    Gaia
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    Soon I’ll type here some unfiltered vents I’m writing on a personal journal

    In the meantime I’ve found an interesting analogy to describe how I feel about myself, my life story and personal development: a plant, more specifically a climbing plant that keep going up and growing “randomly”, without stable supports or surfaces to lean on it naturally needs. Think of a climbing ivy, it needs to lean, twist and wind around something else, a stake, a gate, gratings, to keep growing and live. Well, I am that climbing ivy who gets bigger and longer but around my ground there’s nothing to lean on, I just keep growing “randomly”

    #340964
    Anonymous
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    Dear Gaia:

    I like your analogy very much, I am impressed by how well you expressed yourself using this analogy. “growing ‘randomly'”- quite profound.

    I used to make up rules for myself, “to lean on”, rules of behavior. It helped somewhat, to keep going by a set of to-do and to-not-do rules.

    A quality psychotherapist would be an excellent support for the Ivy that you are, guiding your growth. I suppose a healthy home is the place for ivy children to grow, and a foundation for the growth. Unfortunately too many of us don’t have that early- life foundation.

    anita

    #340980
    Gaia
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    What my ivy needs is something happening, experiences. People. Jobs. Skills. Break ups. Travels. Deaths. Accomplishments. Friends. Enemies. Lovers. Fights. Passions. Departures. Responsabilities. Whatever makes you you. My younger self tried to make up for the lack of these things by settling rules and identities, anything that could turn me into something but now I know it’s not enough. I believe I could do all the most excellent psychotherapy on the world if I had to be blessed to find it, but psychotherapy will never fulfill the holes that yours and days of surfing on the internet have left in me. Not only, at least

    #340982
    Gaia
    Participant

    To use another analogy, I’m still like a newborn baby approaching life and the environment for the first time. My skin is very delicate, and so my eyes, my movements suck and my brain can’t process in depth or smoothly what happens around. Except that I’m not a toddler but a 21 years old

    #340984
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Gaia:

    I don’t understand this sentence in your recent post: “psychotherapy will never fulfill the holes that yours and days of surfing on the internet have left in me”-

    -do you mean that this website/ your communication with me has left you with holes?

    anita

     

    #341066
    Gaia
    Participant

    Oops error in typing

    I meant “hours and days”, not “yours and days”

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Gaia.
    #341070
    Gaia
    Participant

    And btw I can safely say that speaking with you has been one of the few internet activities actually helpful or useful so I would never say that it has left “holes”

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