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September 7, 2018 at 8:52 am #224623AnonymousGuest
Dear John:
Regarding letting go of the past (your last line, above), letting go of your relationship with your ex girlfriend, thing is, it is a feeling you had with her that you are holding on to, not a relationship. All through your thread you expressed longing for that feeling. There wasn’t much communication between the two of you and you indicated recently on this page of your thread, that you didn’t tell her much of your truth, so to avoid conflict and that she told you that you don’t hear her.
So you see, not much of a meeting of the minds between the two of you. And if she did feel good with you at first, eventually she no longer felt good with you, and so at the end of it, you were the only one with that feeling.
Figure out the origin of that feeling in your childhood, and you will have much needed insight.
anita
September 25, 2018 at 7:53 am #227415JohnParticipantwell i don’t know if this had to do with anything. but i was talking to my ex still via messenger. apparently i’m still how i was. Needy and clingy(which you all pretty much told me). She told me i’m still saying one thing and doing another and we can’t be friends. Then blocked me. I guess i don’t know how to not talk to her without telling her how i feel. very frustrating. To top it off, my girlfriend found out and read some of the messages. There was nothing bad, but the fact that i was still talking to her upset my girlfriend pretty bad. She is still sticking it out though. I really wish that i could freaking let go of my ex. It still hurts everyday. I think it hurts most knowing that she is with another guy that has a lot of traits that i do. Except for being needy.
my girlfriend messaged my ex. And my ex told her that i was insecure and became overbearing and controlling. She said i have a good heart, but i have issues.
What’s funny (not haha funny) is that i wasn’t that way for a long time, until she started to pull away from me when she was dealing with all of her other shit in her life. I know it’s my fault for being like that, and i knew that i was getting that way when i was, but i couldn’t help it. I just made things worse and still did. even after and we started first talking again, i think i became too needy again and should of kept my feelings inside and “played the game”. Looking back, when ever i did bring up to her how much i did love her, she even told me it was a little hard to take. God, why couldn’t of i just backed off. I know what you have all told me, maybe it was a big thing to do with abandonment and when she did pull away, i panicked and smothered her instead of being my own man and letting her be.
I still do love her. I’m still in love with her. I really don’t feel like that will ever end.
on the other side my girlfriend and I are doing are best to work through this. I love her too, i’m not in love with her like I was my ex. Bought i’m hoping that will change with time. She is a good woman and wants nothing but for us to be happy.
I’m really trying to stop thinking about my ex. It’s so tough though. It was a year yesterday since she went to that wedding and when everything changed between us. It’s crazy to me how i can still feel this way about her. I would still do anything to go back in time and fix what i screwed up. I would give my soul if i could. I feel so pathetic and weak. I want to be a strong confident man again, now i feel so insecure.
I feel so messed up. In the back of my head, no matter what my ex says or does that someday we will meet again and things will be good. I really wish i could just forget. It plagues me so bad every single day. I still cry on occasion. I’m trying to listen and practice what you all have told me. it’s hard, though. So hard. when you heart aches so much and knowing that you caused it and possibly had an opportunity to change it and then made things worse. I feel incapable of being able to love like i should with anyone but my ex.
I’m not trying to be dramatic, just telling you all how i feel.
I am afraid that i may have made the wrong decision with my girlfriend. I read an article about getting over your ex. And one of the things was to fantasize about the perfect woman, someone that I really want. Looks, profession, hobbies, habits, ect. Then only look for that person. With my girlfriend there are things that hold me back. Her having kids 24/7, she isn’t really established with her career and struggles, and she isn’t the exact body type that I desire. But we do click good and get a long good. I hope that can get past those things. I’m going to stick it out and make the best of it, if it does’t work, then i will move on.
Ugh!, i feel like a douche though.
September 25, 2018 at 8:40 am #227429AnonymousGuestDear John:
You wrote about your ex girlfriend: “She told me i’m still saying one thing and doing another“-
what was the one thing she referred to, and what was that another thing?
anita
September 25, 2018 at 9:48 am #227437BrandyParticipantWow, a whole year since the beginning of the end of that relationship! One whole year. 365 days. You’ve made progress but you’re still stuck. It happens to a lot of people, so you’re not so unusual.
Have you had enough yet?
If not, another 365 days will come and go, and at this time next year you may tell yourself: Two years since my ex went to that wedding and everything changed between us. I would do anything to go back in time and fix what i screwed up. At that time you can ask yourself again if you’ve had enough. If you haven’t, another 365 days will pass and at that time you may tell yourself: Three years since my ex went to that wedding and everything changed between us. I would do anything to go back in time and fix what i screwed up. Will you have had enough at that time?? Maybe, maybe not. Meanwhile life goes on but you remain stuck.
You say: I want to be a strong confident man again. Do you want that now or do you want to wait another year? You get to decide. You get to be who you want to be. If you want it now then make that decision now. Get out a piece of paper and write down exactly who you want to be, and then practice it every day starting today. Before long it’ll become a habit and you won’t even think about it. You will be that strong confident man. But if you would rather wait another year, that’s fine. It’s up to you.
She blocked you. That ship has sailed. Once you decide that you are a strong confident man without her, you are free!
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September 26, 2018 at 6:44 am #227591JohnParticipantbrandy, i’ve had enough a long time ago. unfortunately, i can’t just turn it off in my head. I try so hard every day. for instance, this morning when i woke up to go to work, the moon was almost full and bright, and instantly she popped in my head(she loved the moon). I really do work on trying to think of other things and such. I hate it that i can’t go one day without her in my head. I almost feel cursed in a weird way. Like i’m doomed to feel hurt, wonder, and pain forever. I hurt because I do feel like i forced her out of my life by being so clingy and insecure and that caused her to make whatever decisions she did. I wonder if she did meet someone before we separated and If it was because of how i was behaving. I have incredible pain in my chest because of how much i do miss her and that i still do love her.
I do want this to be gone, so bad. It really kills me inside and turns me into a depressed poopy old man. I seriously wish there was something i could just switch off.
I will do what you suggested though. I will find something about myself i want to change and work on that one thing everyday. It is very difficult though.
thanks mom for all these issues i have within myself. LOL 🙁
seriously though, I do know that i’m the only person that can change these things.
I still can’t get over the idea that if she was to call me and want to try, that i know i would wake up out of this funk instantly, have energy and spunk, and be excited and happy again. That’s one of the biggest things that bother me. I hate it. I want to be happy and excited on my own, for me! Not because of some woman.
I really do love her and miss her, however. A really big part of me wishes i would of never met her. It almost feels like i’ve been ruined.
I feel stupid and ashamed to be like this. Very frustrating.
thanks
September 26, 2018 at 12:28 pm #227687BrandyParticipantHi John,
So the first item on your list is to be confident and strong. So say you wake up and see the moon, full and bright, and it reminds you of your ex, and you start feeling regretful, weak and sad. Take out your list, which should always be nearby like in your pocket, and read item 1: I am confident and strong. This is who you are because each person gets to decide who he/she is. You want to be confident and strong and you’re the CEO of you, so you decide, and that’s who you are. It’s that simple. This means that anyone or anything that tries to sabotage your confidence and strength won’t be successful because you’re in charge. As the CEO of you, you’re smart enough to see what’s happening: a thought tried to pull you in AND YOU LET IT! You saw the moon, thought of your ex and got pulled in, then started to feel regretful, weak and sad. As CEO, you don’t have to do what anyone/anything tells you to do! You don’t have to get pulled in. You get to make the decisions! You can let the thought pass without weakening your confidence and strength. At first it’s difficult to do this, so don’t get discouraged. Over time it gets easier. I’m not saying you need to control your thoughts — that’s too hard to do. It’s much easier to control their effects on you. When a thought pops in you head, recognize that it’s only a thought, acknowledge it, you can even say aloud “you’re only a thought”, and then let it pass. Don’t identify with it. Don’t get pulled in. You’re confident and strong; you get to decide what happens once the thought pops into your head. You’ll get better and better at this if you keep trying.
Make your list. Read it before you get out of bed in the morning and then over and over again throughout the day.
John, once you are able to let these ridiculous, annoying thoughts pass without pulling you in, other things in your life will become clearer, like this other relationship you’re in.
Last thing: At the beginning of your last post you wrote I just can’t turn it off in my head. So stop trying to turn it off! Let the thoughts come if they want to come. Who cares if they come?? You don’t because you will let them go before getting pulled in. What you’ll see is that over time the thoughts will start to give up. They’ll start to recognize who’s in charge.
B
September 26, 2018 at 4:10 pm #227709BrandyParticipantHey John,
I was just now driving in my car thinking of a better way to explain to you how to let your thoughts go before getting pulled in by them.
Think of your thoughts as water balloons being thrown at you. Wait, no, make it mud, balloons filled with mud. You have no control over it; they are being thrown at you one at a time. Once one hits you, your clothes get muddy and wet and you have to spend the rest of the day in heavy, muddy, uncomfortable clothes, at work, when you’re with your kids, girlfriend, when you’re at the grocery store, when your all alone, all because a mud balloon hit you. So instead of letting these balloons hit you, what if you gently caught each before it could hit you and then threw it into a trash can, one by one? At first it’s difficult to catch them, but over time you get very, very skilled at gently catching a mud balloon and throwing it into a trash can before it can hit you. Your clothes stay dry and you remain comfortable wherever you go. And what’s great is that over time you find that fewer and fewer of these mud balloons are coming at you because their source isn’t having any success at hitting you anymore.
Early tomorrow morning when you see a bright full moon and think of your ex, catch the mud balloon before it can hit you and throw it in the trash can! It’s going to be a good day!
B
September 26, 2018 at 10:59 pm #227729BrandyParticipantI just now realized that I left out an important part of my mud balloon story (lol!)…
Sometimes, after you catch a mud balloon, there’s no trash can nearby to toss it in, so you have to carry it with you wherever you go until you can find one. But having it with you doesn’t affect you at all. Your clothes are dry, clean, and comfortable the whole time it’s with you because it didn’t hit you. It’s just there, taking up a little space until you can find a trash can.
The End 🙂
September 27, 2018 at 6:50 am #227763JohnParticipantI’ll try to do this. I’m writing down some things now to keep with me. I know one thing. I’m so tired of waking up every single morning and thinking about her. I have a feeling i’ll be caring a whole lot of balloons for a while. Just because i am kind of OCD ish. I’m really trying. I do turn off the radio or change the station a lot anymore, because there are so many songs that remind me of her. Especially Faithfully, seems like that one has been on a lot. I have to turn the station real fast. That one really tugs at my heart. there is a lyric in it that talks about learning to love each other all over again. When i hear that, my mind goes into overload thinking that someday…. Someday maybe 10 years from now we will be together again. I know it’s all crap and isn’t meant to be (if it was, then she would have really talked to me about everything before it was too late). However, I still get those feelings.
I’m going to really try to do this. I think the hardest thing is hurting as much as i do daily. I miss her so much. I don’t understand that. How can i miss somebody like this for this long. Especially when i have someone else?
Damn! I’m crying again.
I’m confident and strong right! I will make those notes now and put in my pocket. I need to get past this. Hurting like this every day is going to kill me. It’s no way to live.
September 27, 2018 at 10:33 am #227791BrandyParticipantSo what happened this morning while you were writing your last post? You started thinking about the lyrics of the song Faithfully and your mind went “into overload” thinking that someday you and your ex will be together again, and before you knew it you were crying. A thought popped into you head and you very quickly identified with it, got pulled in, and became sad. What if as soon as the thought popped into your head you had stopped and told yourself that if this random thought is not fueled by your attention and interest, it will simply disappear? The silly thought isn’t real! It only feels real when you bring attention to it. If you don’t engage with the thought, it won’t exist anymore. Recognize that these thoughts are just random mud balls being launched at you, nothing more. Try to visualize that, if you can. Just gently catch the random mud balls before they hit you, and then throw them away.
You can do this.
B
September 27, 2018 at 12:43 pm #227811JohnParticipantI’m trying so hard. It feels like I spend all my energy trying to recognize that and tell myself exactly what you are saying. I’m so exhausted anymore. I really think that i should of never contacted her again.(yes, i should of listened to everyone) Maybe then i would be better by now. I tried telling my self out loud today that i am strong and confident, that I have a good life, that i love myself and that i don’t need her. I have done that a few times today. I know i sound like a broken record. but damn, this is so difficult. I really am grateful for how happy i was and having that feeling, but now i really wish i would of never met her. I have never been like this in my entire life. I wouldn’t ever wish this on anybody.
September 27, 2018 at 1:58 pm #227827BrandyParticipantJust relax, John. Take a deep breath and relax. Everything will be okay. This mud ball exercise isn’t meant to take up so much of your energy. It’s more about getting you to notice that when you buy into your thoughts, they can derail you. Just notice that. Simply noticing shouldn’t take much energy at all. It’s about becoming aware. That’s the first step. Next, once you are aware and able to see your thoughts for what they really are — silly ridiculous nothings that don’t need your attention — it’ll be easier to detach from them. But that’s the second step; you may not be there yet. The simple realization, step one, may relax you. It relaxes me.
You say I really wish i would of never met her. Do you think that it may be possible that going through all this pain is actually a blessing in disguise for you? After all, this pain of yours has pushed you to the point where you really need to address your obsessive compulsive thinking, don’t you think? You are over 50 years old — now’s the time, John! You now have an opportunity to learn strategies to handle all of your derailing thoughts. Don’t waste this opportunity!
September 27, 2018 at 2:13 pm #227831BrandyParticipantSorry, I messed up on your age. Just now looked back at your thread and I see you are 45, not over 50.
September 28, 2018 at 12:15 pm #227975JohnParticipantI am glad that a lot of my issues have been brought to my attention. I am thankful for that.
Wishing i never met her refers to the pain and hurt i have felt for the last year and still feeling. It’s very defeating and crushes me at times. it does come and go, for instance. I was in a good mood all morning. happy, enthusiastic, energetic, positive. Then after my lunch i was driving back to work and it’s a beautiful day and going to be a beautiful weekend, so my brain went there. Went to the place of when i used to take off and her and i would go do something fun and romantic for the weekend, just the two of us. I’m trying to push through this one. It’s not as bad as yesterdays.
October 1, 2018 at 9:13 am #228405JohnParticipantWell another weekend down. I think the weekends are the hardest for me. Missing her and the life i had with her. The life of care free, stress free fun that we did have. With my girlfriend now, It feels like there is stress everyday. I told her that it’s hard for me because I was used to doing so much with my free time and even with my girls before, it was nice to have that life. Now with my girlfriend since she has her kids full time all the time, we don’t do much of anything. especially now. Money is tight for her and that makes it hard as well.
My girlfriend said to me that that kind of life i had was not normal with kids. That being busy with kids most all the time and not having time to ourselves is normal. I agree and disagree with her. Yes if you have kids 100% of the time then that is what is normal, however for me, only having mine 50% of my time. I was able to have a fun life when i had them and when i didn’t. It was very fun and exciting. in my entire life i don’t think i had done so much on my weekends and even during the week than i did in that year i was with my ex. Maybe that’s what i miss the most? I dunno. Maybe when i was dating, that’s what i should of been looking for. Someone that has that free time like i did and resources to be able to do all of those things?
I have talked to my oldest daughter(24) about watching the kiddos for us so we can get some time away, but the money part hits hard too. That was another thing. My ex did not have $ problems. She did well for herself and could afford to do things without worry. Now it feels like everything is down to the penny, and if we want to go out that that is what we look at and takes the fun out of it. Where as before, my ex and i just did it. If we wanted a weekend away, we rented a hotel or house and went. Or just took off for the day or whatever. No worries. we would just go on the spur of the moment. It was fantastic.
Now it feels like i’m stuck at home all the time. No more fun. I know it will get better. just what it feels like.
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