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  • in reply to: İf anyone says spirituality is… #450994
    anita
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    Hi Dear Tee 🙂:

    “Your mother probably adopted the belief that she is good and you’re bad/evil. The belief born out of duality. Probably somewhere deep down she felt inadequate too, she certainly didn’t love herself. But she suppressed that feeling and that core belief (of not being good enough) and projected all badness onto you. She labeled you as the ‘bad one’, and herself as the ‘good one'”-

    Said perfectly, as if you were there, observing, witnessing..

    “Yes, that’s a normal reaction! A part of you believed her, but a part of you resisted her and wanted to prove her wrong. And it so happens that when we believe we’re inherently bad, we want to prove to everyone (not just our parents) that we’re good”-

    Thank you for saying this because it makes me think, go back in time, and what I remember is that I was too weak, too devastated to think that I could possibly prove her wrong. She was too dominant, too loud, dominating. It was all her, no me. I was sickeningly submissive to her.. was physically there, but no agency.

    “So, there is a constant battle inside of our mind: the inner critic telling us that we’re bad, while our protector part (which is another part of the ego, also caught in duality), trying to prove to ourselves and others that we’re good.”-

    The inner critic repeated her message, elaborated on it, torturing me. The protector part- don’t remember having this part. I remember that you shared that you talked back to your mother. I never did.

    “Basically, we’re fighting ourselves, while also fighting others, believing that they think we’re bad.”- Yes, fighting myself. Never fought her except that one time. Fighting others.. yes, later in time.

    “I think that a part of you saw yourself as bad. That part was your inner critic, which is the internalized voice of your mother. Whereas another part was trying to prove (to yourself and your mother and the world) that you’re not bad.”-

    I don’t remember trying to prove her wrong.. no, wait, I did try to defend myself against her accusations but she punished me for any effort to defend myself, every defense on my part was met with escalated offense.

    I wonder if this has been true to you, trying to prove.. this kind of agency was severely squashed very early on in my life.

    “You were very sensitive to how people perceive you, because you didn’t want that they perceive you as bad. And so even the slightest disagreement or unfavorable feedback felt like people telling you that you’re bad. And this caused this other part (I call it “protector”) to react with anger and defend your ‘goodness.’”-

    This is true later in life. I suppose the “protector” part of me died early on, and then, many years later, resurrected.

    “I think this was the dynamic. Let me know whether it resonates?”- yes, it resonates except for the decades of zero, or close to zero agency, living my life with no me in it.

    The first time I ever stood up to her (the fighting I mentioned above) was in my early 20s.. that’s 20 years of submission. And the way I stood up to her was to grab her hands as she ran toward me to hit me, once again.. and again.. and again. I pushed against her just enough so that she couldn’t or wouldn’t get to me so to hit me.. with passion. She hit me as if she had no choice but to .. defend herself from my .. alleged evilness. The way she presented it, she was always Victim, I was always Perpetrator.

    Although I have never hit her, never shamed her, never guilt-tripped her (she did those things to me.. over and over and over.. and over again)

    .. I wrote: “I am making progress in this regard.”. You responded: “I’m happy about it! ❤️”- Thank you, Tee, ❤️ back to you.

    “I am looking forward to reading more of your interpretation and thoughts I hope that this was helpful and looking forward to chat some more 😊”-

    Thank you. I am looking forward to some more chatting with you. I hope this is not too heavy for you..?

    My above responses to your quotes, everything I wrote, that’s stream of consciousness, whatever comes to my mind, no editing.. so, there may be seeming contradictions, but none that come from deception. So much of growing up (or growing in, as in stuck- within, more exact), I don’t remember.

    I am grateful that you chose to communicate with me after all that’s happened, Tee.

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: What will my life be now? #450984
    anita
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    Dear Nichole:

    I am sorry I didn’t answer this morning. I was not in the right state of mind, but I will be later on today. Please take good care of yourself!

    Anita

    in reply to: Stressed and anxious #450983
    anita
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    Dear Q:

    I’m glad you’re feeling really positive and confident today 🙂.

    Your choice to not contact her makes sense!

    It may be a good idea for you to write a message today (from this positive and confident state of mind) to your future self who will have another down moment later on..?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Seeking clarity about a relationship #450982
    anita
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    Dear Going Through Life:

    I wish I could remove those thoughts and images of her being with others from your mind. Are these thoughts frequent.. ?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: İf anyone says spirituality is… #450981
    anita
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    Hi Everyone:

    Wow, Peter, this is the best down to earth, tell it to me like I’m a five year old explanation of Duality vs Non-duality that I’ve ever read, thank you!

    I asked: “Being that the concept of the-other is so instinctually entrenched in nature (all animal species, I think), and we humans are still an animal species.. How can any human undo or redo pre-human nature and not have a concept of the-other?
    Or is non-duality about lessening the frequency and intensity of the concept of ‘the other’ in people whose concept of the-other is.. too much, too often?”-

    From your reply, Peter, I gather that your answer is that the concept of the-other is indeed instinctually entrenched in nature (“Hyenas, like you said, act from instinct… responding from instinct protecting their space and chase away others. That’s nature doing its job.”), and that non-duality is not about undoing the natural, instinctual concept of the-other but lessening its frequency and intensity (“we can soften our judgments.”).

    So, we, humans cannot not judge at all, but we can soften our judgment. Personally, I do need to judge less often, way less. I am opening to this.

    “We can notice when we’re sorting the blocks too tightly”- I do need to loosen my sorting 🙂

    I am taking a moment to meditate on the above.

    “Imagine you’re a child playing with building blocks. At first, there’s just the blocks and the joy of playing. But then, you start sorting them: red blocks here, blue blocks there. You say, ‘This one is mine,’ and ‘That one is not.'”-

    “God said, ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.” (Genesis 1:3–4)- the beginning of sorting: light (good); darkness (bad).

    Next to be sorted was water below (oceans) from water above (clouds or such): “And God said, ‘Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.’ So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.” (Genesis 1: 6-7).

    .. And the deal-breaker sorting: “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die”. (Genesis 2: 16-17).

    Like you said yesterday, Peter, “The story of eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is… the birth of duality”. I would add that it was the birth of the complexity of duality in human psychology.

    Thank you, Peter, for this exceptional down to earth reply, for honoring my request for one 🙏

    Thank you, Tee, for your reply 🙏

    “Now thinking about it, perhaps eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil refers to the state of consciousness when we start seeing ourselves as good and the other as evil? This is the first time that this interpretation has occurred to me, but perhaps it’s a feasible one?”-

    In my personal story, in-the-beginning God (my mother) created the heavens and the earth (my core beliefs), darkness was over the surface of the deep, and her spirit hovering over the waters, telling me: You are bad! Shame on you..!

    So, I believed (and resisted the idea) that I was bad. Never free of that darkness.

    “when we see the other as a threat, as evil”- I saw myself as evil. I saw me as “the other” (self fragmentation, dissociation, alienation). And I often perceived others’ reactions to me.. others’ feedback on what I shared, others’ advice, etc., as re-accusations that I was indeed bad, and that I should be ashamed of myself.

    I am making progress in this regard.

    I am looking forward to reading more of your interpretation and thoughts 🙂

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: What will my life be now? #450964
    anita
    Participant

    I am thrilled to get your message, Nichole.. only 13 minutes ago (by the time I submit this message), feeling good to read your words. Only I am not focused enough to thoroughly respond. I will Thurs morning, good night, special, precious Nichole (hope this is no too much..)

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Seeking clarity about a relationship #450962
    anita
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    Dear Going Through Life:

    You are welcome, and thank you for.. being you!

    You deserve something better than what you had with SS, something more mature, more trustworthy, something you can rest in, feeling safe.

    💞🫱🫲🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: İf anyone says spirituality is… #450960
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Everyone:

    I have a question for Peter, but everyone is welcome to answer. I am asking because I am trying to understand.

    Peter, you wrote today (in your most recent post): “the moment consciousness split into opposites… self and other.”

    Hyenas, for example, chase other hyenas who cross their territory and injure or kill the “other” hyenas. So, to me, it means that they have a concept of the-other, an instinctual concept, not one that’s accompanied by the elaborate thoughts that humans, cognitively evolved, are capable of.

    Being that the concept of the-other is so instinctually entrenched in nature (all animal species, I think), and we humans are still an animal species.. How can any human undo or redo pre-human nature and not have a concept of the-other?

    Or is non-duality about lessening the frequency and intensity of the concept of “the other” in people whose concept of the-other is.. too much, too often?

    If you choose to answer me (I’ll appreciate it 🙂), please explain it in a way you’d explain it to a 5-year-old, without big words and terms..?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: A Personal Reckoning #450952
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Everyone:

    Bad= Harmful.

    I was bad= harmful many times when angry.

    I forgive myself for all those times- while holding myself accountable for my words & behavior today, tomorrow, and every day moving forward.

    *** I need to be careful, to pay attention when I am feeling angry: to-

    Do No Harm While Under the Influence of Anger.

    I forgive myself for all those times in the past- while holding myself accountable today.

    (A relief)

    In regard to those irl who had severely harmed me- forgiving them is not my job, not my duty to spend yet.. more time on them.

    My focus is on being a good person today and every day, genuinely, sincerely.. truly yours.

    Anita

    in reply to: Ex is with someone else #450945
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lily:

    You are welcome to use this space to vent your feelings, all of them 😔🥺😢😠😊🥰🌞🌈💖🎶

    Giving all my feelings space to be is an important part of my healing process, not necessarily to act on all of them, but to give them space, let them breathe, so to speak.

    But this thread is about your feelings, your healing. I am looking forward to read more from you.

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Who can take care of me? #450941
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Q:

    I read both your initial posts and I’d like to respond to both here.

    “he started to cry and told me that he’s trying so hard to be better because of me. That I’m his inspiration… why can’t I accept and take this as a compliment?… I feel like I’m always helping everyone else. I want someone to be there for me to the same extent and with the same understanding that I give.”-

    Maybe, just maybe this role of taking care of others started early on in your life, maybe taking care of a parent so that he/ she will be able (once helped enough, once strong enough) to take care of you..?

    And you got really good at helping others.. yet the reward (being helped back) didn’t reach you yet?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Stressed and anxious #450935
    anita
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    Dear Q:

    Interestingly, you started this thread exactly 4 months ago, June 15. on that day you wrote: “she’s starting to feel uncertain about the relationship. It all happened very suddenly, she started withdrawing affection and things just became more distant.”

    Later on, you shared that the two of you broke up in July and that you didn’t speak since the breakup.

    The sentence that caught my eye the most as I went over your posts was this “Very slowly, my whole world revolved around her” (Sept 22)

    Today, you wrote: “A part of me also feels like ‘what if she comes back? then this would look like betrayal'”.

    I think that for the part of you that feels the above, she didn’t yet leave.

    What if you contact her and ask her if it’s truly over, as far as she is concerned.. if there’s any chance of getting back together..?

    I mean, how can you get over such a strong emotional attachment when you don’t really know if it’s over?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Stressed and anxious #450923
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Q::

    “More noticeably, I notice myself feeling like ‘Moving on and dating other women feels like I’m cheating on her.”-

    To me, this sounds like .. childhood guilt awakening in an adult- romantic context.

    You wouldn’t be cheating on her dating other women. It feels like cheating on her because..?

    🤍🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Feelings for co worker? #450922
    anita
    Participant

    JKPP.. Just Kidding, Push Pull..

    in reply to: A Personal Reckoning #450921
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Aleesa: You are making a valid point- yes, I did feel that was what she wanted to do (to punch me in the face). I sincerely believe that she chose me as a convenient target for her anger. She was angry, frustrated, wanting to quit for some time before Sunday before last- and there I was, accommodating, eager to please her.. so, she.. used me, really to make her exit.

    Dear Peter: “one moment doesn’t define who you are.”- thank you, and yes, this is my point: during that one moment, I was a bad person (challenging her for a fight, and in front of customers). Understanding this was true to that moment frees me from the binary, all or nothing thinking that I’m always bad. Just on that one moment or two..

    I have felt calm ever since I labeled myself bad in that moment or two, setting myself free from labelling myself Bad Always, as a permanent state of being. I hope you understand me.

    🤍🌿 Anita

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