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anitaParticipantHi Nichole đ
I just read a bit about Florida’s cold fronts, they follow the rainy season (May to October), begins in late October or early November, and continuing through winter, each typically lasting a few days, after which temperatures rebound to more typical Florida warmth.
Yes, it’s not good for any social animal, including humans, to be isolated. We are like a song says, “People who Need People”.
Interacting with people right here, in the forums, is part of it, as long as the interaction is sincere and quite spontaneous, like right here, as I type.. this is part of my social life.
If you’re living in or near Orlando, the weather forecast is clear skies and warming trend into the weekend, reaching highs in the upper 70s by Sunday đ
Anita
anitaParticipant“The separate self is like a wave forgetting itâs part of the ocean.”-
And the Ocean/ Source/ Presence/ Canvas is a no-label place, no good or bad.. it just flows
And in that flow.. in that flow, there is place for compassion, only it’s held loosely, allowing flow- not blocking it with definitions, rules & regulations
Softening, relaxing, surrendering to the ocean.
A surrender.. I feel the bit of it.
I am only a wave, I am not, not God = Ego.
Only a wave.. a relief. I can rest now..?
Not God, not Devil.. Just a wave.. Am I understanding non-duality, your non-duality, Peter?
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
Thank you for your thoughtful, kind and patient response. I will process and reply tomorrow.
For now, I just read this (elsewhere) and it resonates:
“Non-dual teachers say the separate self is like a wave forgetting itâs part of the ocean.”
Back to you Fri morning.
đ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
“A dysfunction of imagination”- fascinating!
“rewriting the memory and protecting yourself.”- I will think- feel about it later, and I think it will make it part of the exercise, thank you!
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anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for your suggestions and for caring to share them with me â¤ď¸
I would never want to confront her, not in real-life and not in my imagination.
I figure I can do a corrective exercise, but not one where I am in close proximity to her, just like the one I shared 2 posts ago in this thread (a bit more than 5 hours ago). You can read it, if you’d like.
In the exercise, I will be a safe distance away from her, and then I will be removed from her altogether.
I appreciate your thoughts and your caring to share them!
â¤ď¸ Anita
anitaParticipantThinking about you, Tee. Two days ago, you were waiting for the imaging to be done, and after that- the doctor appointment. I wonder where you’re at with that and how you’re feeling.
Also, 2 days ago, you liked this quote: “The important thing is not to think much, but to love much; do, then, whatever most arouses you to love.”-
Do whatever most arouses you to love right now.. to love Tee, to love others.
I love you!
Anita
anitaParticipantHow are you, Tom???
anitaParticipantHow is Going Through Life feeling/ doing these days?
anitaParticipantHow are you, Mollie?
anitaParticipantHow are you, Sushmita?
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
* I am adding this comment 2 hours and 20 minutes into typing this post, right before submitting it, to let you know that it felt like having a back and forth conversation with you, almost as if we were sitting here together, this early Thursday morning. I wrote whatever came to mind (no editing), just like we were talking in real-life. It was dark out when I started, totally light now. I wish you could read this message in a similar spirit, relaxed, conversational.. So here it goes:
“When we rest in what is already whole, compassion arises as a natural fragrance, not as a commandment.”- you write so beautifully. I can almost smell a pleasant fragrance rising from a blank canvas.
“The sacred does not demand perfection. It waits in the stillness beneath all striving. It is the silence behind the sound, the breath between the breaths,”- again, beautiful.
“the presence that was never absent.”- it’s not a presence that protects people from cruelty, disasters and such, or a presence that lets itself be known in countless personal, national and global disasters.
I remember walking at night, looking up to the sky and praying to the stars: “Help me. PLEASE help me!”-
Nothing.
The stars/ the presence.. if it was present, it didn’t mind staying silent night after night, year after year.
Now, if you counter this, Peter, with.. it being my Ego praying to the stars, and transcending the ego (as a child) would have led me to “rest in what is already whole” night after night.. Well, would you suggest this to me, retroactively, imagining me praying to the stars?
I am trying to understand the “presence”: is it indifferent to human suffering? (I am asking the same question people ask in regard to God)
“We do not reach the source by chasing the changing. We return by softening. By listening. By remembering⌠We are that”- We are Presence/ Source/ Canvas, aka God?
“Dear Anita,”- I think that this is the 2nd time you addressed me with a “Dear”. The first was 2 days ago, and I just noticed today. This is the softening you are talking about (“We return by softening”), is it? If so, I am touched.. moved by your softening.
“I sense a quiet hesitation. Not a rejection of the embrace, but a trembling at what it might ask of you. Maybe not because it demands anything, but because it invites a soft undoing, a loosening of the self youâve so carefully tended, shaped, and protected.”-
A loosening of the self created by circumstances and other people in my early life, during those Formative Years, the years when the self/ ego is formed in physical ways (brain/body).
Where was the source, the presence, the embrace when I- and others- needed it so desperately? It was there sometimes, here and there. Often it wasn’t there.. so, not a dependable presence.
What I point toward is… something more ancient and intimate, a remembering. Not of a moment in time, but of essence of the canvas that holds creation yet remains untouched by its unfolding.”-
Oh, here it is, “untouched” by human pain and struggle, including that of babies who didn’t yet choose anything. Untouched, indifferent.
An Embrace by an Untouched.. is it possible?
“So perhaps the invitation isnât to let go of the self, but to rest in the space where the self is quietly held. Not erased. Not corrected. Simply met. And in that meeting, something tender unfolds.. not as a task, but as a return. A return not to what was, but to what always is. The breath turns. The veil thins. And in the stillness between, we are home..”-
I feel like I am home this morning as I’m sitting by the computer, now hours of talking with you right here, in this post. I quote your words (that’s you saying something to me) and then I respond (that’s me saying something to you).. then you say and I say.. we’re talking. Connecting (that’s my experience here), and I like it.
“You are not outside the embrace, Anita⌠Your are, we are that.”- It’s the Connecting itself, not the topic discussed, that is the Embrace I am experiencing right now.
And I’ve known you- in context of the forums for so long: my first post on tiny buddha was sometime in May 2015, yours.. on May 27 the year after, 2016. Interestingly (to me), you posted 4 times on Oct 30, 2016, exactly 9 years ago. In the 1st of the four (thread: “Do you believe in God?”, you wrote:
“I think that when religion views God as an alien being that exists out there as a watcher and judge, they have missed the target.. Others also mistake the organization and religious teaching as being God. They mistake the map for the territory…
“The problem with being so angry at a God you donât experience as existing is that youâre shaking your fist at empty air.
“Believe me I relate to your experience. There is a part of me that so badly wanted to belong to the community I was raised in. but unable to experience this God they claimed was so loving, just and worthy of praise. All I felt and saw was injustice and pain all of which left me feeling I must have failed and didnât belong.
“Yet no matter how hard I tried I have never been able to deny G_dâs existence and like you in a way that had me shaking my fist.
“One day I got tired of shaking my fist and fighting this something that I apparently didnât believe in. If I was shaking my fist, I was shaking it at something, so I set out to work out what this something was. I began a long journey of separating my experience of G_d from my experience of family, community, church, religion
“I began to look past the words, allowing the words to be transparent to transcendence and when I did began to feel that there was a something that ‘binds us all’. A definition of religion is that which binds us, not the rules not the words but something greater than the sum of all parts, that transcends the rules and words that can only point.
“We tend to use the word God when we talk about this experience but the word God is not God.”-
The word God is Source, Presence, Canvas, Embrace..?
So, you too noticed (of course) the “injustice and pain” in our world, and you too were angry at the not “so loving, just and worthy of praise” God.
But.. wait.. The Source, Presence, etc., is not so loving, or just.. is it? I mean, it’s the same painful and unjust world. Isn’t the proof in the pudding..?
⨠đ â đŤ Anita
anitaParticipantDear me:
“Think it will soon.”- I hope so đ¤
“Anyway one of the girl bosses at my work that still talks to the Taiwan girl was saying ‘Is this a love story?’… man Iâm such an idiot for not taking advantage of that ‘hope to see you soon’ text. laugh out loud totally thought it was meaning everyone at work.”-
Talking about “a love story” and being “such an idiot”, this song comes to mind (by Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers, 1956):
“Ooh-wah, ooh-wah, ooh-wah
Ooh-wah, ooh-wah, ooh-wah
Why do fools fall in love?…Love is a losing game
And love can be a shame
I know of a fool you see, for that fool is me…Why does my heart skip a crazy beat?
‘Fore I know it will reach defeat
Tell me why, why, why
Tell me why
Why do fools fall in love?”And this song (by The Main Ingredient, 1972):
âEverybody plays the fool sometime
There’s no exception to the rule
It may be factual, may be cruel
I ain’t lyin’, everybody plays the foolâ-So.. You are not alone, me đ
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
Before getting to the computer this very early morning (unable to sleep), I was thinking about a corrective exercise and I think I found one: going back to the elementary school setting when I saw her- from a great distance, standing there with the other kids- screaming and threatening a teacher. I told you about that incident and that there was no follow up on it as far as I know.
So, going back, a corrective exercise: there will be a follow up. A kind teacher or the principal (or my adult-self?) will take me to his office, talk to me, call child protective services, or the like, who will arrange for a home for me.. and therapy. I can imagine/ visualize how it’d be living in a new home, a quiet, calm home with what you said: “Unconditional love, acceptance, appreciation, compassion, a loving, nurturing presence: we can give all that to our inner child.”
* The great distance in the scene, that I was not in the same room, 1 to 1 kind of proximity is important,
What do you think?
“What I would do perhaps is various self-soothing exercises â anything that helps you feel calmer in your body. You said youâve tried the self-hug exercise and the diaphragmatic breathing. How did that feel?”-
For some reason I like the half hug, the hand below the armpit. The full hug feels awkward. I definitely need a calmer body, no doubt. Right now I am unusually calm and it’s very, very nice. I wish I experienced more of it.
I just read this part of your most recent post for the first time: “Iâve come across a beautiful short talk by Thich Nath Hanh, on what it means to love another. Although he meant it for romantic love, I think itâs perfect to say these things to our inner child too. Iâve made a transcript of his talk, since you said youâre not really receptive to videos”-
I am so touched, so moved that you made a transcript just for me. I just took a moment to let it sink in that you did this for me. I don’t know how to describe this feeling..
“If you love someone, the greatest gift you can give to him or her is your presence.
If youâre not there, how could you love?
And therefore, the most meaningful declaration when youâre in love is this: ‘Darling, I am there for you’.
Your presence is very important for him or her. And that cannot be bought with money. That could only be practiced by mindfulness.
So breathe in and breathe out mindfully, and make yourself available to your beloved one. That is a practice of mindfulness.
‘Darling, I am there for you.’
When youâre there, the energy of mindfulness is there, and that energy helps you recognize the presence of the other.
If youâre not there, how can you recognize her presence or his presence?
So you embrace the person you love with the energy of mindfulness. That is the most nourishing thing for him or her.
Otherwise, youâre there, but youâre not really there. Your presence is not true, not real, because youâre not mindful.
Especially when the person you love suffer, your presence is most important to her, to him.
And that is why when you see the person you love suffer, you have to make yourself available right away: ‘Darling, I know that you suffer, and that is why I am there for you.’
That is the practice of mindfulness.”-
As I read this, I breathed mindfully (normally I hold my breath or breathe shallowly). This transcript is making a difference for me (because of what it says and because you took the time and made the effort to make it available for me). I don’t remember connecting mindfulness to the inner child. I am going to reread this again and again, make a mantra out of it and repeat it every day.
“I loved this phrase ‘Darling, I am there for you.’ I thought what a great thing to say to our inner child. It gives soothing, protection, compassion, understanding⌠all in one.”- I am going to edit the phrase a bit in another language so that it feels more natural to me.
Eternally Grateful to you, Tee â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸ â¤ď¸
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter: Thank you for the message you addressed to me.. (and for all your messages). I will process in the morning and get back to you!
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
Just got back and read your message. I like everything you wrote. You understand and it makes me happy right now, that you understand đ
No reason to apologize: your suggestion made me understand more, more about what happened, and what I need, so thank you!
And most importantly, for me, is that you are hearing me and able and willing to adjust what you hear/ see, considering new input from me.
I will reply more tomorrow.
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