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August 11, 2026 at 9:15 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460277
anitaParticipantHey Nea:
You are welcome, and thank you đ
You wrote: âIf my family wants to sit downstairs together, watch something, or do something as a familyâŚâ
I was imagining what it would look like if you asked your family (not including your husband) to sit downstairs with you, and you told them â in your own words from your message to me:
âFamily and staying connected are such a huge part of how I was raised. Iâm extremely pregnant, about to become a mom myself, and being at my parentsâ home during this stage should feel like a blessing and a place of support. Instead, I feel like Iâm managing tension, moods, and trying to make sure my husband doesnât feel pushed out. Itâs exhausting and honestly really sad.â
And then adding something like: âCan you help me feel better, safer, calmer as Iâm nearing giving birth?â
That would be a reasonable idea for a reasonable family. But in families with intimidation dynamics, something that looks like a âmeetingâ can feel confrontational or escalate tension. Your father may interpret it as a challenge to his authority, an accusation, or an opportunity to lecture or blame. Youâd be exposing your vulnerability in front of someone who historically does not respond with empathy â and in front of others who wonât challenge him, however gently.
A safer version might be gathering the family minus your dad first and telling them: ‘Iâm pregnant, Iâm tired, and I need support. I donât want tension in the house. I need us to find a way to make things calmer.’ Then asking: ‘Can you help me with this?’
What do you think their answer would be?
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused: I’ll get back 2 U in a couple of hours or so.
anitaParticipantHi Girija:
I read what you shared, and what stood out most is how much strength youâve built over the last couple of years. Youâre not just âgetting back upâ â youâre actually changing the way you relate to yourself. The confidence youâre feeling now isnât coming from circumstances being perfect; itâs coming from you learning that you can move forward even when things are uncertain.
Iâm glad the last couple of days have felt lighter. It makes sense that full rest doesnât work for you â you seem to need a mix of activity, learning, and small accomplishments to feel grounded.
What you said about 2025 being your lowest, and how many different paths you tried, shows how much effort you put into rebuilding. None of that was wasted. You didnât just âlive throughâ those intense years â you learned from them, and youâre carrying that forward now in a more stable way.
And about your mom â I can imagine how heavy this time of year feels. Routine followâups can still bring a lot of anxiety, especially after everything sheâs already survived. Seeing her spirit dim is hard, and itâs clear how much you care about her.
Iâm here, Girija. Youâre doing more growing than you give yourself credit for.
đż Anita
August 11, 2026 at 1:11 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460264
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
I read your message slowly, one part at a time, because I wanted to stay close to what you were actually saying.
When people focus on what your husband âshould have done differently,â it often comes from a place of trying to manage the aggressor instead of looking at the disproportionate reaction itself. Youâre right â the escalation wasnât about the small thing it started with, and reducing everything to your husbandâs behavior doesnât capture the full picture.
About asking him to say hi âto keep the peaceâ: I understand why you hoped that might help, but I also understand why you changed your mind. When someone is still angry, selfârighteous, and showing hostility â like the faces you noticed â asking your husband to extend himself again puts the weight on him, not on your dad. You saw that clearly, and your question â âwhat exactly am I asking my husband to do?â â shows a lot of insight.
If your husband is choosing not to engage because he wants peace, and your dad is continuing the hostility, then youâre right: it isnât fair or sustainable for your husband to be the only one trying. Youâre thinking about the future realistically â gatherings, holidays, the baby â and youâre already recognizing that you canât build a life where your husband is excluded or expected to absorb disrespect.
About my mother â I mentioned earlier that she repeatedly reached out to hit me. One incident stays with me (and I told you about it): I was in my early or midâ20s, and even though we were only a few feet apart, she ran toward me to strike me. Before that moment, for years, my reaction had always been the same: silence, looking down, staying small. She even said once, while hitting me, âThe only thing I like about you is that you say nothing back and look at the floor.â That pattern went on for a long time.
And then, there was that one time when I finally blocked her from moving toward me. It didnât feel like a victory â it felt strange and disappointing, because I suddenly realized how easily I could have stopped her all along. That moment changed how I understood fear, compliance, and the way some people maintain control. Some people do become physically dangerous in rage â we see that in the news â but far more often, people rely on the threat of violence, the atmosphere of intimidation, to keep others small.
Iâm sharing this only because you said youâre trying to understand the âwhy and howâ behind your fatherâs behavior. Your situation is your own, and your father is his own person â but sometimes seeing another example helps clarify the structure of a pattern.
Iâm here, and Iâll share more if and when it feels useful to you.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHey.. Confused:
I see how much you’re hurting, and it makes me đ
“But that still doesnât make sense because when u lose feelings for someone u are relieved to break up… If I had lost feelings, I wouldnât feel anything… I wouldn’t be crying my guts out for months on end”-
If you permanently lost feelings, it’d make sense that you’d be relieved to break up, would never feel anything for her and wouldn’t cry your guts out for months on end.
But you only temporarily lost feelings.
“And it felt so amazing when I was holding her/kissing her in December”-
There were amazing moments during the visit, but on the whole, it was not an amazing visit. There were lots of doubts, distance and disconnection on both sides.
This is what you said about the visit back on Dec 21:
“The visit went okay, it was our first time meeting, I stayed for 3 days, and she knew what was happening inside my head, so she was also distant/disconnected… I liked her in person and my body responded very well to us kissing and cuddling (even tho my mind was constantly doubting everything). Took her a lot of time opening up and even touching me tho. The first 2 days she was keeping her distance which I respected (because she needs to develop a sense of trust and security before getting intimate, especially after I planted many doubts in her head).”
Back to today: “Idk anita, is it 50%? This girl truly loved me… It hurts so much when u push a good person away.”- you place her love on a pedestal, seeing it as perfect at all times (100%)?”-
I think that the 2 of U are good people and neither one of you is perfect (100%). (I would like to think of myself in the same way).
“It’s so hard every day without her, I wake up hoping Iâll get a message or something. Sheâs always in my mind no matter what I’m doing, and I still feel like sharing my every day with her… I doubt life will get any better for me anytime soon đ”-
I think that one way for life to feel better for you is to let go of the ideas that (1) what you lost was perfect love, on either side, and that (2) you carry the sole responsibility for the breakup.
I would like to read from you anytime you feel like talking to me.
đż Anita
August 10, 2026 at 11:26 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460008
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
It makes me happy (I’m smiling now) to read that what I shared helped you think through, and truly, I have no problem at all with revisiting my past and sharing more. I will do so tomorrow morning (it’s getting close to midnight here).
“I donât think itâs fair for me to keep asking my husband to be the one extending himself.”- I fully agree.
I’ll write more tomorrow.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused: I just noticed your sarcasm (or is it irony, I confuse the two) in your “and look at me now, how well I did đ”-
Confused is taking more responsibility than what belongs to you. How about 50% instead of 100%?
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I’m trying to make Confused less confused đ
You mentioned many times how you didn’t lose feelings only in the context of her in your life, but in the context of everyone and everything in your life. What I’m pointing to is that if she was life itself for you, if she- or what she represented to you- meant everything, no wonder you lost feeling for everything else.
Or.. am I confused?
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantNot going anywhere with this, was hoping you go somewhere with this..
She meant everything to you before Nov? Maybe not?
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
“If it (the depression/ annhedonia) was related only to her, I would be fine”-
But if she meant EVERYTHING to you, if you were so very invested in her (or in the idea of her) so intensely, so overwhelmingly, is it a wonder that the depression/ annhedonia spread to EVERY part of your life?
đ¤ Anita
August 10, 2026 at 8:35 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #459999
anitaParticipantHi again, Nea:
I want to clarify what I meant when I wrote that my mother’s affection was tied to my compliance.
I didn’t mean that she wanted me to comply to behaving in ways that are respectful to other people/ to my elders, or to obeying instructions such as help with cleaning the home and such.
I mean she wanted me to submit to her power for no other reason than that it made her feel better to exert power over me and see me controlled, subdued and self-erasing.
It made her feel temporarily powerful ( and that felt good!). I say temporarily, because she needed to assert her power- at my expense- again and again.
So, her love for me, in practice, was love for how my submission and self-erasure made her feel.
I can share more, but I don’t want to maybe overwhelm you. I shared what I did so to explain the “how and why” behind my mother’s behavior,
Thinking that maybe it might help you just a bit in the struggle you mentioned: “Another part of me is still struggling to truly understand the why and how behind (your father’s behaviours)”.
I understand, of course, that your father and my mother are not the same person and that my childhood experience is not the same as yours. Yet certain patterns and human motivation are quite the same across the world from the beginning of times.
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August 10, 2026 at 7:03 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #459997
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
I just want to say how much I appreciate the empathy, grace, and emotional maturity in your message. Youâre holding such a complicated truth with so much clarity â seeing your fatherâs harmful patterns while still acknowledging the love you feel. That takes strength.
When you wrote, âI find myself wondering how someone can love their family and yet behave in ways that hurt them,â it struck me deeply. I asked myself that same question for years.
For a long time, I held onto a loving image of my mother because the real version of her was too frightening to face. Over time, my understanding shifted. I realized she had moments of affection, but they were tied to my compliance â not to seeing me as a separate person with my own worth. When she sensed even small signs of independence, she became aggressive and hurtful again.
It took me a long time to understand that love mixed with harm is not the kind of love that nurtures a child. And it took even longer to let myself see that clearly.
Iâll write more soon, but I wanted to share this part with you now.
Anita
anitaParticipantGood Monday morning, Confused đ
Yes, your motivation changed since Nov, your doubts and shutdowns started then, as well as a general loss of pleasure. It happened before your irl visit with her on Dec.
Fast forward 8 months, and she experienced something similar this July- Aug, before the scheduled Aug irl visit with you, which would have been the 2nd visit.
Do you agree with what I wrote above?
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Girija đ
The coworker we’ve been talking about- with his “powerful words and actions” (your words about him earlier)- was your hope for a savior?
I’m reminded of the 1981 book “The Cinderalla Complex”, it’s about the hope and fantasy of many, many women to be rescued by a man, to be like Cinderalla who was rescued from her hopeless life with her evil stepmother by a prince.
Although many more women work and earn a good income since 1981, the fantasy is alive and well, particularly when it comes to more traditional societies and anxious women who grew up without emotional safety.
There are approaches in different therapies that target this very fantasy, teaching women to develop a “secure base” within, or develop a secure adult self/ a capable “inner parent” to take care of the anxious “inner child”.
But none of it is easy, of course, for a girl who grew up without a secure base, or a capable parent đ.
I didn’t even know Medium exists, or if I came across the word before, I forgot. I may look into it. Thank you for mentioning it.
How are you feeling today/ this evening?
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHey đConfused:
Good.. good to read from you this Sun night (here), and to see another “haha”, whether genuine or ironic. Will B back 2 U in the morning.
đ´đ¤đđ¤ Anita
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