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Hi Adya,
From the way she treated you, she does not deserve an explanation. I understand you work close together, it will be awkward at first, if you see her, you can give her a brief smile and nod, but nothing says you have to talk to her. Also, she may not stay at this job, or she may get transferred to a different department. It does get easier.
ElianaParticipantHi Mary899,
You can analyze this, till you are blue in the face, but these are very toxic people. They are narcisists, gossipers, perfectionists and overachiever. They only care about themselves, and find other people They can find who are like them to “add to their clique”. They were most likely raised like this, by parents who themselves were raised to be this way. Critical, judgemental, belittling. Stay as far away from these women. Have no contact at all with them. If you see them, you can give them a brief smile, but move on your way. Don’t make small talk with them. If they want to talk to you, pretend you have a call to make it you have a cell phone with you, or tell them you have somewhere you have to be. These women are still in Junior High School mentality. You are better than this. Make friends with people who bring you sunshine, not clouds, positive people who lift you up, happy people, secure and optimistic. Stay far away from these little girls.
ElianaParticipantHi Nepenthe64,
We all have basic needs in a relationship. One is communication. Without communication, and him shutting down more and more and making you look like the bad guy, the relationship can’t survive. We have the basic need to be heard and understood, as well as respected. There again, he is not doing this by belittling you, making unkind comments. I too suffer from depression, and it it a chemical imbalance. The worst thing to say to someone is “just snap out of it!” “stop feeling sorry for yourself!”. This is emotionally abusive and highly disrespectful on his part. For any relationship to work, both people have to invest time and energy. You are putting in 100 percent, him nothing. O percent. Nada.
It does not seem he wants to change, and you can’t fix him. Only he can change, but he has to want to. And he needs to have to have better communication skills. Another basic need in any relationship is a need for love, a touch, a hug, affection..again..he is putting in no effort, even cruelly disrespecting you, that he likes another woman. Please. Let her deal with him. You deserve better. He shows no interest in your needs, or emotional support for you. Instead, he could try to do some research on depression, instead of saying something he knows nothing about and sweeping under the carpet, humiliating you by saying he is “just trying to motivate you” how is saying “stop pitying yourself” motivating? He makes no effort at all in this relationship, and it has become stagnant. You deserve to be with a loving, stable, respectful, caring and mature man..not a little boy.
ElianaParticipantHi Kelsey,
I can very much relate to your post. I will have a very close friend and then I meet another person, who then becomes close. I too, am a very giving person. I go out of my way to be there for them..to listen to their problems. Then there comes a time, that they are doing all the complaining, and I am doing all the listening..and as soon as I want to talk, they interrupt, and say they “have to go” I feel like a doormat and become resentful. Its usually or always me that calls them and invites them to lunch or dinner. Yet, neither one calls me and invites me out.
Then what happens is I introduce the both of them, and they become close, and suddenly, I am left out. I lost my car due to being on SSDI disability. My one friend bought a car. She would never ask me along. I would go upstairs and watch TV with them, and they would get real quiet and just look at each other. Then one would say, she had to go to bathroom..the other would say she had to call her boyfriend and leave, and I would catch them getting in the car and leaving together. I felt so left out, rejected, like I was not good enough. Then I would get paranoid. I finally had enough and decided I did not want any contact with either of them. This was hard, because we all lived in housing together. They would try to talk to me, I would just give them a quick smile. Instead of watching television with them upstairs, I would watch movies in the residents social room downstairs. I told myself never again, would I introduce two friends too each other, because I end up getting left out. The one girl got evicted, the other girl and I did manage some sort of friendship, but it wasn’t the same. She moved out. Never said bye to me. Haven’t heard from her for a year. Then the other day, some residents told me she came to visit me (I wasn’t here) to take me to lunch. She just left a note in my mail folder at front desk but did not leave her phone number, saying “perhaps some other time”. Having two close friends treat me this way, makes me feel I am back in Junior High School again. It just hurts.
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ElianaParticipantLouise,
I’m not trying to sound mean, but this man is a rude, conceited, narcissist. What an ego. He is so full of himself, he could provide fertilizer to at least 1/2 the worlds farmers!! Please don’t have any contact with this man, he is extremely toxic.
ElianaParticipantHi Louise,
You say he is a “good guy in some ways” but I don’t see any good guy after reading your post and the horrible, abusive things he said to you. It makes me sad, and I’m so glad you left that toxic person. You then stated, he was flirting with other women on Social media, so his emoji to you of a kiss, I doubt was sincere, if he is flirting with other women, he is probably sending them flirty, emoji’s as well.
I would not have any more contact with this man, no quick “meetings” no matter how charming he may be. Abusers most often mask themselves as charming and flirtatious, and then as soon as they hook you, they do a complete turn around. They don’t or will never change. You can’t fix him. Only with the help with a professional therapist, and if he wants to change, will or perhaps he may change.
Let’s say he wants to get back together? Would you really be happy to go back to a verbally abusive man and stagnant relationship? Someone who talks about straitjackets and make unkind comments about weight? You deserve better. A relationship with a loving, healthy, stable, kind man.
ElianaParticipantHi Perfect,
I can understand how frustrating this can be. I too have been in many long distance relationships and it never worked sadly. Unfortunately, no matter how much you care for each other, it’s very complicated. The fact that he has a girlfriend, and he seems unsure if he is going to “Break-up” up with her or not did not sound too convincing. That is a major red flag. Also, it seems, you are mostly communicating by texting, which in itself can be very complicating, because he has to worry about his girlfriend. Although he stated he loved you, and other nice things, he made no firm plans that he really wants to be with you. I will use a quote I often use, because it is so very true: “if a man, really wants to be with you, he would be with you, no excuses, period”.
Also, there is the distance factor. You can’t see each other face-to-face every day, which can really put a strain on any relationship. Even though he stated he loves you (the second time) he did state he wanted a relationship. His communication with you, seemed rather superficial and vague. I also don’t like that when you told him “you loved him” the first time, he didn’t say it back, rather giving you a cheeky response. I see alot of red flags. I don’t think at this time, he is emotionally, or physically available. There is another quote I like to use: “never invest more time and energy in someone then they invest in you” and right now, he is investing 0 percent. You deserve better, a loving, healthy, stable man who lives in your city.
ElianaParticipantHi Natalie,
I’m sorry this happened. I know what it’s like to like someone so much, then we have hopes and dreams of a possible future of a person because during the brief time you were together, there were good memories, and those memories are hard to let go.
Perhaps, what happened, is things got intense too quick. You weren’t together very long and he starts to act very controlling just because you wanted to spend time with your friends, he had a temper tantrum, got hurt, because it reminded him of the pain of his recent break-up and he decided the intensity, too much, too soon frightened him off..no ones fault..he simply wasn’t ready or emotionally available. Even if you did reconcile, would you always want to be “walking on eggshells” afraid to do anything with your friends because of his insecurity? You would not have been happy in the long run, and neither would he. He was just not ready.
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ElianaParticipantHi Gia,
I’m sorry this is happening to you. I have lived in apartments a long time and know what a nuisance it can be with neighbors, barking dogs in middle of night, elevator noises, people talking right outside my window (once I got mad, and offered them a drink or cocktail), they immediately took their conversation somewhere else. I know what it’s like to live by swimming pools with screaming kids, or teenagers who “sneak” in after pool hours in the dark and are rowdy and drunk. People coming home in loud cars from bars at 3am, etc.
If I have a problem with a neighbor, I never go to the neighbor, because you never know who you are dealing with. Instead, I go to the landlord or resident manager. They usually keep “logs” of complaints, and if other people are complaining, they go and resolve the problem for you. One time the guy upstairs refused to turn his loud stereo down. I did get a little annoyed and put a note on his door asking him to turn it down. I did not give my name or apt number. Next night, same loud stereo. I called the apartment complex number and dialed the option for resident complaints and left a message. In less than 1/2 I could hear the person on call that evening, asking the resident to turn it down which he did. I am wondering why your landlord was not involved, or the text messages shown to them from that man, or the police being called reported?
ElianaParticipantHi NezumiT,
Have you ever read the highly popular book called “Your Erroneous Zones” by Wayne W. Dyer. I highly suggest it. It came out in the 80’s, and has been updated several times and continues to be a best selling book. Chapter 6 talks about “exploring the unknown” I will quote a phrase he writes on “doing your best”
“The push to achieve comes from three of the most self-destructive words in our culture. You’ve heard them and used them thousands of times. Do your best! This is the cornerstone of the achievement neurosis. Do your best at everything you do. What’s wrong with taking a mediocre bicycle ride, or going for an average walk in the park? Why not have some activities in your life which you just do, rather than do the best of your ability? The do-your-best neurosis can keep you from trying new activities, or work related activities and enjoying old ones. Why should you do everything well? Who is keeping score for you? Winston Churchill’s famous lines about perfectionism indicate just how immobilizing the constant search for success can be. The maxim ‘nothing avails but perfection ‘ may be spelled PARALYSIS.”
Pages 133-134.
August 12, 2017 at 7:01 am in reply to: He says he loves me but isn't "in love" with me anymore #163590ElianaParticipantHi Crystal,
I’m sorry to hear about what is happening. Its a difficult thing to go through. Just some thoughts, let’s say you did get back with him, you had mentioned things seemed “stagnant” and he stated “he was not in love with you” If you got back with him, would you truly be happy, secure and content in a relationship that is not moving forward and a man not in love?
August 11, 2017 at 4:22 pm in reply to: How Do I Stop Coming Across As A Target Or "Easy To Manipulate?" #163546ElianaParticipantHi Myles,
I think, there are times that no matter who we are, rich, poor, race, social class, etc, there is always going to be someone out there who is going to try to manipulate. I don’t think any of us are really looked on as “easy targets”. There are lots of nice people in this world, many of them get manipulated in some way. I guess you just have to have that person earn your trust. Don’t give too much of yourself away..especially to people you don’t know. I know that’s what helped me.
ElianaParticipantHi NezumiT,
I can relate very much. When I got my BA in the Psychology and Social work profession, I so badly wanted to find an entry level job in that field. Then I applied at Hamilton County, because they often hire people out of school, no luck. Everyone wants the LISW, (Master’s Degree). I got accepted to the School of Social work masters program, but by this time, I was over 50,000 in student (Stafford, Perkins Loans) debt, so I dropped out. No one in my family supported me. I had to get my degree mailed to me, because no one bothered or cared that I was graduating and wouldn’t come to my graduation.
What really hurt, was when my Dad, the person I thought was my best friend, and loved me unconditionally, said “what a waste of a college education” why don’t you go to work for a fortune 500 company, like I did when I graduated from Harvard”. That hurt, because I knew and felt like a disappointment to him. So, I got a call center job as a Financial representative at one of the world’s largest fortune 500 investment firms. Not good enough for my Dad. So, I studied and studied, they put me through school, I hated it to get my series 7 and 63 license to become a trader/stockbroker. My third week out in the floor, we had a snowstorm, blizzard like conditions. I wanted to call off, but figured I was too new..so I had several anxiety attacks driving the 35 minutes, which turned into two hours to get there. Usually there are about 200 people on the trading floor where I worked and because of the terrible conditions, only 30 people showed up for work.
My supervisor/lead in the floor told me to get on the “loop” to take junk bond calls. This is very complex, and new people should not be doing this until a year being there. I got monitored. I was so frazzled and nervous and have the called the wrong information. The supervisor stood up and called me “worthless” and yelled at me, in front of everyone. I started to shake real bad. They came over and told me to pack up my stuff, and I was escorted out of the building.
I don’t really know right now what my dream job would be. I do know I like rescuing animals and animal welfare. But, every time I think about even working again, if I do get better, I’m so afraid to get fired again.
ElianaParticipantHi Nezume T,
I am sorry to hear about your job. I have been “forced to resign (even when I was in training), once, I was on the job for three weeks, I was new. The supervisor was not very nice to me and made me very nervous. I got home one night after my shift and got a nasty message on my voice mail from her telling me that they needed someone to “take the job and run with it”. I have been fired from jobs without warning, if it as “at will” they don’t have to give you a warning. I too suffer from (with me) debillitating anxiety and panic attacks. The panic attacks started in 2005. I was working in call centers at the time, I really liked it, I liked being on the phones talking to customers and helping them. Then, the job started to get to be too much for me, I guess. We were required to answer 100-200 calls a day. We had to get “monitored” (where our calls were listened to). The job, started becoming more stressful, the warehouse made mistakes with shipments, breakages, orders were being “padded” I think by sales department because retail customers would order 14 of a particular item and they would be charged for 19. They would call and get irate. I used to be able to handle it..then something happened, I would put my phone on “idle” alot and go to bathroom and have “anxiety attack” and the attacks got worse.
I got hospitalized for major depression and anxiety in 2005. I was put on an antidepressant and Klonopin for panic attacks. I went back to the job, but it wasn’t the same, I no longer enjoyed it. The economy wasn’t that great, and I could not find another job. Two months later, the company had another massive layoff, I was layed off. 4 months later, they were bankrupt. I tried to find “easier jobs” but still got let go due to stress and anxiety and finally had to file for disability.
Are you on any meds for anxiety? Sometimes they can help with job stress. But, yes, employers can let you go without warning unfortunately.
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