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LaraParticipant
Hello all, thank you for your replies. I had some issues at work and it stressed me out, so I didn’t have the energy left to go to the library to reply, sorry for the late reply. The one time I managed to get to the library and write a long post, it was deleted when I klicked the wrong button – I was tired and went home. To explain myself: I only post from the library in this forum, it’s the most annonymous way I know. I shared things here that I haven’t shared with anyone else, that I could only share because I feel safe knowing that I did everything to make sure that the chance of this being connected my real life self is minimal.
Mark, thank you for your reply. I live with my mother, its the cheapest option in my city and also it gives me a feeling of safety. I lived alone as a student and that is associated with depression for me. I would like to try living alone again in the future, but not right now. I am an introvert, I can be shy but I can also be the one indignatly hollering after a bicycle rider who drove straigth through a crowd of pedestrians – doesn’t sound very shy, does it? So it’s on and off.
I had friends in the past, but it was difficult for me to really connect. Part of it was me not having the right social skills and being anxious, and I believe in high school part was also that my iron deficit was so high it was difficult to function. I was constantly tired without knowing why. In university I had good friends, but lost two because of depression. Still there were movie nights, visits to the cinema, board game nights, I was pretty lucky that I had one special friend and another one invited me to his get togethers. Also, even though it was frightening, I went out to experience things like joining a student association and choir.
> Can you pinpoint what is keeping you from creating friendships?
I think its because of different reasons. One is certainly still a lack of skills on friendmaking. I once passed a playground, and one child shouted to another: “wanna be friends?” and that was that, they were friends. Amazing. I could not do that, the fear of beeing rejected is strong. Which reminds me I did just that in elementary school, wrote a note to a girl “wanna be friends” and got a “no you are fat” in reply, though it probably wasn’t from her, but from some guys.Then there is the fact I don’t use social media, not even Whatsapp. But I believe staying in touch with people might be easier if I did, its just that I don’t want this kind of surveilance software on my phone, nor give all my phone contacts to Whatsapp. Yes, I might be a bit paranoid. I am thinking about getting a separate phone for this kind of stuff though.
I have aquaintances at my choir, one in particular that I go to the movies with. But I am not sure that she really likes me, maybe I am more of a charity case for here.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by Lara.
LaraParticipantHey Katie,
I agree with Jay Jay, there are all kinds of reasons why she didn’t answer yet. Maybe she is still thinking about what to write.
“She was my very very good friend for years. ” since you were close to her, your rejection might have hurt her more than that of Sarah. If Sarah wasn’t that close, well she was just one of many but to loose a very good friend over this, well that’s worse and she might be more reluctant to see you again.
You made the first step towards her, how about leaving this for a while, she if she comes around. From your post I have a feeling that her reply is so important to you that you got ” really depressed about it” is that there is more to this.I am wondering: do you feel isolated yourself right now and getting back with your friend seems to you to be the only way to make friends with someone again? This is only a guess, its only that I wonder why now after breaking off your abusive relationship with your ex in 2018, this is so important.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by Lara.
June 15, 2019 at 5:53 am in reply to: Coming out of depression to find myself hopelessly behind #299275LaraParticipantDear Liz,
congratulations on getting to the point where you feel you can move on with life. How exciting!
I was depressed/anxious all through my university years, when I got out I hardly had any working experience, so I think I get it you when you write ” I am overwhelmed by how much catching up I have ahead of me, and I feel so much regret for the wasted years spent avoiding life and isolating myself.” I once said something similar to my theraphist, that I feel people are so far ahead of me. She said “Well then feel free to stand on the sideline, cheering them on while you wave them goodbye. And then go at your own pace.”I think thats a really useful attitude, because in the end thats all you can do.
You allready have a plan for studying to apply for the internship, which is great. Have you considered working on your social skills as well? I mean nothing big, but maybe volunteering somewhere occasionally to get into contact with people?
“why didn’t I do this two years ago?” because you weren’t ready back then and now you are.
“I feel like there are too many things I need to do, but I realize it’s counterproductive to expect too much of myself all at once.” I agree with Kat, small steps are very important. When I got out of depression I set small goals each day, putting them on a list and striking them off with a big marker when done, very satisfying for me.
LaraParticipantDear Katie,
good for you to distance yourself from your cousin then! She doesn’t sound like a good influence. There is so much out there to experience, I hope you can focus more on that. I wish you all the best!
LaraParticipantDear anita (and everyone),
I just wanted to let you know that right now things are good. Not perfect but with the hyaloron injections knee No.1 got to a level where normal walking is not a problem. I agree that jogging probably is out of the question. Your post and also the one before helped me beeing more aware of what I do, especially when you wrote “We need to be as mindful as possible”. At one time I wanted to take a train, but couldn’t reach the plattform because the elevator was broken and I had my bycicle with me. I faced three flights of stairs, the train was supposed to arrive in five minutes but could I do this with my knees? Normally I would have tried anyway, but then I thought of your post and thought: no screw this, I am taking a different train on a plattform where the elevator works, even though it takes longer. Good decision for my knees I think.
With both MRTs the ligaments or tendons were okay. My doctor even said about the second MRT that they couldn’t find any problem at all, which was a problem at the time, since knee No.2 was hurting a lot despite of that. But he precribed a bandage and a day later suddenly something clicked, and the knee was set right. I think the bandage is to thank for that. The knee is still in some ways more strained than knee No1, but way way better than before.
So all I wanted to say is for now things are looking up. The post got a bit longer than I planned, but really just wanted to give the feedback that things are good right now and thats is also thanks to your posts before. Hope you are doing well!
LaraParticipantDear Tom,
when I was depressed and afraid what helped me were multiple things, but the start was good theraphy (CBT) and walks every morning. There is a freedome in just walking, looking around you, noticing small things. Also it gets you started into the day! Do you live in an envorinment where you feel safe to do that?
LaraParticipantDear anita,
thank you for your reply. I don’t think this time it’s anxiety so much (though surely anxiety is allways involved) but rather hopelessness. Six months ago my knees were fine, and then it was steadily downhill with a few ups and downs. I went from someone who considered starting jogging again to someone who won’t go to a concert because the way might be too much for my knees. Maybe I just need more time to adjust to that.But to be fair, today I got my second injection and at least one knee feels much better right now. So maybe things are about to improve.
How about telling your father: don’t joke with me anymore, don’t try to be funny, say what you mean in a direct, straightforward way. Do you think he may, just maybe accommodate you, and not just for a day, but all the time?
I am not sure about this. For one joking is ingrained in him, its his way to connect with people. I do the same thing. So its difficult to draw a line “that joke is okay, that one isn’t”. Saying “no joke is okay” might make things real awkward.
LaraParticipantDear Samantha,
I think its perfectly normal that you want to know what your fatigue and hand tremors are about. It doesn’t mean you want to be sick, I think it means that you want to know what this is all about so you can act and make it better.
I used to be tired as well, so much so that I sometimes would just lie on my bed. For me it was iron deficit, which you allready covered. I am sure you went to a lot of doctors allready, do you feel this got better for you?
As for the hand tremors, I agree with anita that this may be rooted in anxiety. Surely you know allready that anxiety can manifest psysically in your body, for me it was a feeling of heaviness in my arms and stomach aches so strong that I thought I surely had an ulcer or something. Have you looked into relaxation techniques like autogenous training? I learned this in a class and its still useful for me. But I also wanted to say if you feel you want a doctor to look into this again then just go for it. Sometimes different doctors have different ideas and different approaches. If you feel its not “just” anxiety but something else, maybe you will feel better if another doctor with a different approach checks you out.
April 9, 2019 at 10:22 am in reply to: My close friends found new friends during my depression. How should I ha #288301LaraParticipantDear JYK,
it sounds like you feel isolated right now, I am sorry, I know how that feels, especially in a class situation it sucks. Have you tried reconnecting with your friends again? E.g. when they stand together with their new friends, just join the group? Or invite one of them to hang out? Or are there other people in your class that might be potential friends?
Are there clubs at your college you might join to meet new people?
LaraParticipantDear Anita,
Frankly it’s not good, the knees got worse. Things are also looking up a bit though: I am getting treatment (hyaloron injections) for one knee and had another MRT this time for the other knee. To keep up with all the appointments I reduced working hours a bit, which I had dreaded, because I didn’t want to appear not in my A-game. But despite all the work resheduling everything is fine and maybe I can remember this for the future, that it’s possible to just say: sorry but this has to happen, how can we make that work with my work shedule?
Still one knee hurts right now, I am sleeping badly (waking up at 3 AM, then awake due to thoughts and knees throbbing until 5 AM +, then sleeping again) and frankly I think I might very slowly be slipping back into depression. I am short tempered but also a bit disconnected. Its not so bad yet but the depression signs are getting more the longer the pain lasts.
Recently I met with my father and I just exploded for little reason. I was telling him my choir would perform “near him” which in my language can also mean more specific “at your house”. And he of course made it into a joke, “what, you will perform at my house”? And I exploded, I was just so tired of allways beeing mocked whenever I let down my guard with him, when I don’t formulate things perfectly. His reaction was “well you know how I am” in that “well I didn’t mean it” voice. But I was just sick and tired of it. The rest of the meeting didn’t go any better, he asked two times what was up and otherwise pretended nothing was the matter. He has tried to call three times but I didn’t answer. I am effectively ghosting him. Someone in another threat said this behavior is imature and I agree, but I don’t know what to do. I have thought about going for
“I” sentences: “sorry I don’t feel well right now so I don’t want to meet at this time. Let’s meet again when I feel better”LaraParticipantDear L,
you post helped me a lot! The last time I went to the doctor (different doctor this time) I wrote down notes on a piece of paper and took that with me to not forget anything. I didn’t need to look at it when I was there but I had my thoughts all alligned to ask all the important questions.
LaraParticipantDear anita, how is your foot doing? I am a bit worried that you didn’t go to a doctor (due to experience) but I also totally understand that you know your body best and if you think this will heal on its own then maybe best just give the foot some rest. Take care!
LaraParticipantDear Steve, I think you did everything right with your neighbor. You apologized for your plumber’s behavior in writing and in person, even went so far as to fire him. I hope you can leave this now behind you. Maybe you won’t even see your neighbor much due to different shedules, and when you see him you can just say “Hey how do you do?”
Did you create a nice space for yourself in your house yet where you feel “at home”? E.g. a nice couch?
LaraParticipantDear Anita,
thank you for getting back to me. I am not sure if I can find such a person, maybe my sister but we aren’t close right now. But its certainly something to think about and something I hadn’t considered at all until now, thank you. I hope you are doing well!
February 12, 2019 at 9:54 am in reply to: I'm 25 but I still feel like I'm stuck being my former 14/15 weak self #279899LaraParticipantDear monica,
how are you doing these days? Sorry, things got rather busy and I had some problems and didn’t get back to you though I meant to.
You wrote “25 is already old for people and should be somewhat established by now.” Oh yes, I know that feeling. I once said that to my therapist, she said: “Well if you feel like everyone is racing past you, feel free to take a moment to cheerfully wave them goodbye while you walk at your own pace”. Most people don’t know what they are doing, and some will run into a dead end and have to try again (which is okay too). You just start from where you are and take steady steps forward.
” But the world I was shown isnt like that ofcourse and everyone gets crap. Atleast from the words of mouths Ive seen and heard from other people.” Yes, that doesn’t sound like a world I would want to cheerfully step into, either. Quite frightening. But is it true? For some jobs, absolutely. But I don’t believe for all jobs. And also not for every human interaction. In my opinion one key is to have small, achivable goals to check out the world. E.g. small talk with someone you meet (that might actually be a big goal though). Just saying “Hello, how are you?” and test that with different people.
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