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ConfusedParticipantOk i think i see what u mean, then yes its very likely that i do that. But yesterday something strange happened.
We talked and argued (again), mostly about things that we dont say to each other, and for the first time i didnt compromise and was my fully authentic self, no holding back, just spitting facts and my opinions/feelings, without fearing abandonment. After we were done, i felt euphoric, like a sense that everything clicked and i was ready for anything (probably dopamine)
I had a dream with my mother (not a bad one, just her in the dreams) and when i woke up i felt like shit, almost like the days before the shutdown, weird stomach feeling and the thought that “i dont want this girl”.
ConfusedParticipantYes exactly..
Affected in what ways ? Do u have any examples?
So i guess i correlated her to my mother and that made me shutdown?
ConfusedParticipantI thought about that yesterday and it kinda resonated..But i cant comprehend how i am correlating my mother with her.. feels weird.
ConfusedParticipantI was always wary of not upsetting her, getting her in the bad mood, walking on eggshells/etc. I think thats how i felt with the girl lately..
What do u mean?
ConfusedParticipantI cant feel like i can express anything through art, never been able to.
Yes thats kinda how i feel actually..
ConfusedParticipantDid u feel like u could express things on art at first?
I mean that it was me that caused all this. I wish it was her leaving, would have been easier to deal with.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah must have been difficult, like being a prisoner.
I have no inspiration for poems or art, never had, always been bad at those sadly.
I think my problem is solely based on this obsession i have over not feeling anything, so its very hard to reach feelings..
Its gonna be my own self that breaks me sadly
ConfusedParticipantI meant how did u experience it in general but yes, i didnt experience anything like that lately, only in the beginning and some random days months ago, but i was mostly lost in thoughts.
Thats exactly how i feel now, all my good feelings are gone..only sorrow, regret, despair and sometimes anger.
Yeah, i give them too much significance and power.
ConfusedParticipantThat seems logical but still doesn’t make any sense in my mind (probably because i havent touched it yet and i find myself very self-sufficient)
Yes we do, im guilty of that in my life.
Alright, enjoy your offline time, thank you very much anita, goodnight 🙂 (hopefully way less soon)
ConfusedParticipantI think its a double edge sword with me because i am so aware and have consumed so much information around trauma, rocd, adhd and stuff that messed up my brain really good, but i guess with time it will all fall in place..
My home was definitely not the safest, with fighting and arguing looming over every hour.
I wonder, how did u experience the dissociation after, in therapy? (dont answer this if u dont feel like it)
Yeah that’s what i hear we have to do, but it seems like voodoo-magic to me haha
Your words are very empowering, im glad you are in a better place finally, i hope i get there too someday 🙂
ConfusedParticipantYes LDR is definitely a challenge. From what im reading though, i might also have ADHD (which i suspected years prior but never bothered to check) so it explains the burnout and the emotional numbness.
No its not disinterest, i just cant find the roots alone. I started today with a new therapist which specializes in IFS and i hope she can help me.
How long did it take you to see improvement, anita?
ConfusedParticipantHello anita
She also mentioned that in the beginning when i first got the shutdown (and the last time we spoke) that it could limerence and i want the feeling more than her, and i told her that i dont care, i still like her for her qualities and i love her insecurities. Its just now that i feel depressed and have no feelings for anyone around me, its very hard.
How do u break the dopamine cycle tho? But what gave me this? Or my shutdown could have ended my limerence? I really have no clue.
Im gonna do this here yes, here it goes:
Fantasy
I didnt rly have any “hopes”, i just wanted us to take it slow and meet each other, spend time with each other, nothing heavy.I had no “unreal vision” of us, just normal stuff, maybe going on vacation somewhere together, her visiting me, ride the motorcycle and go on a trip, show her around. I still want those things, but i can’t feel the joy right now.Reality
She is kind, giving and listens to me. She hasnt made too much effort (mostly it was done by me) and she can take things personally very quick and shutdown. She is very shy and scared to do anything without knowing the “result” beforehand, like a contract (reassurance).On the other hand, she is very affectionate, loving, modest, shy (i like it), faithful, has a moral compass like mine, communicative (most of the times), she is very feminine, sets boundaries, trustworthy, respectful, witty, good sense of humor, passionate and i admire her a lot for what she’s accomplished in her life and has goals. I also like what she labels as “insecurities” on her, i find them cute.
Although i can’t feel anything right now, i know she has those qualities because i was thinking that before i froze, when i was still infatuated, i was questioning myself on “why do i like her so much”.
ConfusedParticipantYes i might have been feeling overwhelmed those days from too intense emotions (love/anxiety/confusion).
I was thinking maybe it was limerence and it crashed me so hard? I’ve never actually “loved” any girl without the all-consuming infatuation that limerence gives you, so anything without those hormones leaves me uninterested, the dopamine crash would explain my depression aswell.
I wanna try and love her for real without limerence though. How can i do that? haha
ConfusedParticipantBut it wasnt the first time she was emotionally available and sweet. I think it has to do with the dorsal vagal nerve shutdown because it affects me on every department of my life.
ConfusedParticipantNo no, i started talking to her a year ago, didnt know her prior.
Talking to therapist didnt really help, well it was the first time. She only listened but pointed out about our conversation (for the moving countries part), she said “from what you’re telling me, it sounds like the girl was more committed to you than you were to her, because she imagined a future with you, while you only wanted to get to know her (for starters). And i hadn’t thought of it like that. Maybe i have a fear of commmitment?
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