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ConfusedParticipantTrolling around means messing with each other/kidding, not meaning what we saying.
I dont know if thats the case for her, but she was hung up on our jokes @ march about “not having a relationship”, she took those words seriously because she wasn’t joking when she said “well u never properly asked me to be in a relationship with u” and i thought she was messing with me, that’s why i said it. This stuck with her and over time made her feel bad like being in a situation that doesn’t fit her, but it was all a misunderstanding.
If what she said is true, her main issue is that she can’t get over what happened back in september. I asked her how can i rebuild trust with u? She said i dont know since ive never done it again, i dont know where to point u at. I told her that this can’t be, if u really want to rebuild with someone u should know what hurts u and what u can’t trust and pinpoint it and ask from the other party to fix it. If u can’t find it then maybe u don’t truly want it? Or u just can’t get over it? She did appreciate all my efforts from what i remember.
Well, when we started texting again yesterday i started crying, then by the hours going by and us keep texting i felt my feelings shutting off again, like i am “comforted” now that we talk again or something like that. But later at night, we were wondering where we lost it and where it went wrong, what we did wrong maybe, and i cried again and told her “i just want us to be happy together, like we were before all these”.
Maybe it’s overwhelm or maybe i feel safe with her and my feelings turn off? Very weird
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
That’s not very nice i think, better to not reply at all, imo.
Yeah, she opened the gift today to take the roses out and told me she’s gonna see the rest after work 🙂
I don’t know how she didn’t feel like it, i was doing so many things, being there for her and all, maybe it was just my words? But i thought we were trolling and we were on the same page..
I thought about that too, but i dont think i wanna do it yet, or ever, if we remain together.. I think it could raise a whole new wave of questions/doubts/insecurities? Idk..
But we did agree on that back at june 2025, we said that we will see how it goes on a serious manner.. in her mind though this convo on march left her “hanging”, for me it was just trolling around with each other, i thought my actions were proving enough that i am committed, didn’t know she needed words of reassurance. I asked her why she never mentioned anything and she said “well, arent u a princess? am i gonna be the one to ask u for a relationship?” I told her that i can’t read her mind and if something is bothering her she should say it.
The thing is now that we started talking again, my feelings are off. This is so annoying how can i change it?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Oh i didn’t notice.. why would someone bother doing something like this?
Yeah, AI can’t guess or know anything, all it does is speculate according to researches and situations that may fit somewhere.. human replies are much nicer.
Yeah, so i figured.. she’s very very hurt by me and she said that this time apart gave her some clarity to reflect on things that were bothering her for months and she wasn’t communicating them because she didn’t want to upset me and she exploded at some point.. guess who did the same thing 🙂
She said that she wrote 7 pages of “inaccuracies” and “misalignments” on my actions/words and what was keeping her on her toes, why she can’t trust me since September, how i violated her boundaries many times and so on and she wants us to discuss them in a videocall.
I told her again that i never lied to her except this one time, explained to her how it was dumb of me to lie about something i knew she already knew and how that proves even more that this was a panic lie. Told her i “wish” i would have lied about something that mattered, like hiding stuff from u or cheating, etc so this would justify u leaving me, but i lied over something so stupid that i knew u were already aware of.. There is also a problem with my memory… i have serious memory gaps/issues especially since November. She was telling me about some stories i told her that were involving one or two of my exes and i dont even remember that. She said that i crossed her limits on this one.. i explained to her that i legit can’t recall a lot of things and maybe my mind is so occuppied with her that just erases other things, she laughed. Also, another huge misunderstanding since march/april was that in a convo she said “well, i’m single, u havent asked me for a relationship yet” and i thought she was joking so i went along with it and told her that “we are not in a relationship yet, we’ll see how it goes” and she didn’t say anything because she didn’t want to lose me so she went with the flow and thought we have a “situationship” which none of us likes. I was dumbfounded today that she told me those things and we saw how differently each of was was thinking and that we were in our own worlds/heads. I told her that ofc we were in a relationship since June 2025 that we discussed about us trying to meet and take it seriously, but in her head she thought i wasn’t committing to her and we were just “seeing how its going”, LOL. Turns out i was in a relationship by myself for a whole year because exclusivity and all those things we had with each other could just be “situationship” for her if we don’t have a specific date or me not having asked her “officially” to be in a relationship. That could explain so much of the misunderstandings..
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Has Lu answered again on this thread? I dont remember, i only remember Roberta, Thomas and another guy that this happened to him recently.
I think i mean i literally don’t want to exist, the guilt, the sorrow, the loss, all of it..
She did have (as she has told me about one of her exes, her first bf actually, who was abusive and violent after they got together but before he was an angel, just to win her over, then did a 180..idk about others). No no her mother is fine with her father, they live together and they’re okay. I think it’s mostly her experiences and friends maybe. Damn when i think of her with someone else i boil inside!
I think too that she was always wary of so many things so she could latch onto one and put me in that place maybe.
I was feeling down, went to work, got notification that they didn’t find her at home (she was at work) so they kept the box at the office, so i texted her the info (with a tight stomach) and we started texting for now.. She said she’s not doing well at all, she’s struggling to get by, that i shouldn’t have done that and spend money again, go through all the trouble with the gift and such. I told her that it’s never a trouble for me and i love doing it, even tho i cried while making it.. She said that she was also writing letters about us and wanted to send them to me but thought “whats the point now?” I said i did the same all this time.. She will get the box tomorrow because the office is closed now, she said it’s very hard for her to open it and she’s hurting so so much but she will at least open it to get the roses and maybe salvage them if they havent withered yet (i put them in 3 days ago so they might have gone bad by now) and she said she’s curious to see what i made this time..
ConfusedParticipantHey Lu
I dont remember u replying before, maybe because of my bad memory but well done for reading along, it’s many pages! Yes, sometimes it feels like it’s even harder because u invest heavier on the emotions when u’re LDR since that’s the only thing u have mostly.. She gave my heart so much meaning 🙁
I know she was angry and hurt and she was looking for things to make her leaving easier, but still, i think after all these, our chances right now are close to zero sadly..Thank you for your words 🙂
I cry while looking at her amazing gifts sometimes, my worst dream came true, looking at her presents without having her.. such special gifts made with so much care and love from her, i will never forget it..didn’t want it to end like this 🙁
I think it’s mostly to escape my existence, since i can’t find any comfort in anything at all, nothing i do gives me any pleasure, ever since November almost, everything feels irrelevant and pointless, perhaps this was my issue all along, anhedonia.
Hmm, i do all these but nothing changes, i go to work but nothing helps, my mind circles back to her and everything feels empty and meaningless.
I don’t care about since she’s gone tho, it doesn’t count to me, i wanted to do this with her 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Today we visited another friend outside town but i still felt empty and alone… i was crying in my helmet again while driving home, idk if i can do this anymore, it hurts so much..
Yeah she had told me “now i have to tell my parents, let’s see what i am gonna tell them… and imagine i was convincing everyone that u are different than most men, how stupid i was”
It all feels hopeless and unbearable, i want to somehow escape 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah, i don’t think i can commit more than keep pushing through and staying with someone even after hardships that u’ve only met for 3 days and have gotten so many obstacles from them already.
Hmm, the emotional was there 100%, sadly the practical never got to happen 🙁 She has told her parents and everyone by now so i guess she’s not coming back.
I know but most of the times i am trying to see things from another POV and think differently, but sometimes its so hard..
Nope, radio silence, been three weeks, my gift will be reaching there tomorrow or in 2 days i reckon, i hope she gets it and opens it, even tho idk what im expecting.. I can’t believe how one panic lie was enough for her to just walk away like that and not regret anything..i wonder, doesn’t she miss us?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
That had been my intentions actually, until i woke up in November feeling like i have no interest in pursuing romance, but still i pushed through and managed to start getting some of it back. I am all for 100% commitment, ride or die, living life together and stuff.
Well, i can’t say for certain when we havent lived with each other, i think neither could she, but my 100% commitment on this part was to willingfully commit to her and to this plan as a first step towards the next plans, in my head that’s commitment, not seeing someone and still choosing them for what u have and what u plan with them is one of the biggest commitments, at least in my head.
I think in my head this is the highest u can get before u experience the other person IRL, but i guess she couldn’t just do that since she was so in her head, looking for faults everywhere.. sometimes i feel like she was looking for reasons to leave, not to stay, but maybe it’s just me idk..
Hmm, my first reaction is to get defensive (in an argument for example), idk if that’s the inner child but i have managed to suppress it for a good amount.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Hmm, i think most of the times i get that with being defensive, i get emotional too but it starts with defensiveness.
No ofc not, actually marriage doesn’t make any difference to me, like i had said to her in a convo, if i decide to be with u then i am with u marriage or not, we marry if u want only, i am fine with either. And she didn’t like that response, she said “then u compromise”, i said no, comprimising means sacrificing something, which i am not.
Idk anita, i was easily seeing my future with her, i even thought of us working together somewhere to open her own dental office, decorate it and stuff and i liked this idea, i imagined taking her to trips right after work, preparing dinner for her, bringing her flowers and coffee at work, all these stuff i imagined only with her, idk if that counts.
Yeah, i don’t think i was loving the idea, i was slowly falling for her the more i was getting to know her..
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
How do i listen to the boy instead then?
I can’t say “hell yeah lets get married” with any person i haven’t lived with yet (neither could she), but i can say that i want to move towards this goal, take the next steps necessary for this to happen. I think that’s the equivalent of being all-in with someone before having lived with them.
But how do u differentiate? I love her character traits, the way she cares, how she speaks and moves, her eyes, her reactions in our convos while we were having fun, our communication and inside jokes/ways we had with each other, her morals, her consideration for me.. damn i fumbled hard anita, this was a woman worth being with and working things with, i wonder if she says the same for me 🙁
Well, considering i was never a marriage person, i would say this is a pretty bold statement for me.
ConfusedParticipantBut then again, regarding my last question, i suppose i wouldn’t be grieving so hard, nor would i stay in the relationship or show her so much love and care if it wasn’t for love, i wouldn’t be this sad, i would look at other women.
I think i loved her so much that i fumbled.
ConfusedParticipantFor your second message:
Yeah she focused only on how she felt, not on why this happened, maybe she was unable at the time? Maybe she didnt want it? Idk
No, i’ve never even thought of that before her, it’s something that came to my mind after her (during her), never had i thought that something like that exists within us..
My answer would probably be “hell yeah, let’s explore this! How do we start working towards that goal?” and set some plans. For example: visits for starters and not back down from that, then set an end-time for the distance and decide who moves where.
I was thinking, do i love her or the idea of her? Am i holding on to her because i love her or because of sunk cost fallacy? I dont know i feel confused!
ConfusedParticipantI doubt i can do that anytime soon, since i never lie and this time i did out of fear and lost something dear to me, lost experiences, fun, connection.. Idk if she forgives herself tho.
I definitely learned from this but why did it have to happen like that? It breaks me 🙁
It was a bit of anger but a lot of fear that september will repeat..
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I dont know if the lie itself was the problem, she told me that she was hurt and everything crumbled inside her because i was lying to her face repeatedly with such ease and that made her see me in some other way.. Even if i explained to her why i did it she said “that doesn’t change how i felt”, so i guess that’s the issue, not why i lied, it’s that i was insisting on my lie, that’s why she can’t trust me again.
Could be a possibility because she definitely had some family issues (although not even close to mine i think) but she never really shared much of it.
Today i visited some friends at a countryhouse, they had a BBQ and i went just for the company, i only lasted for two hours, i felt an overwhelming urge to leave, like something inside of me was boiling, so i left and i was crying inside my helmet almost the whole trip home (90 kms), for having hurt my little girl who loved me so much 🙁
Also, an hour ago while working i thought how i hurt the “little child inside her” and i started crying again.. This whole thing has left me a mess, i barely eat anymore, sleep like 5 hours a day, she’s all i can think of.. But what hurts me the most is the rejection, her rejection to the love i wanted to give her, to the places i wanted to take her (she said i dont even wanna hear about ur city’s name now), i’ve had so much to give her and i screwed up, wanted to take her from the airport, show her weird spots that i had saved, stroke her hair, hug her… Thinking i will never get to experience those because of my own faults is a different kind of sorrow, i feel like im in a void, i want her back so much, i wanted to do life with her… A month ago i was listening to a song and a random image came to my mind, us kissing while listening this song in our marriage, i think i told u that before but still, it plays in my head.. i dont know if i will ever forgive myself for hurting her and for this dumb lie i said out of fear. 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHaha u picked up on that!
But what type of thing could have happened to her in the past and got triggered? Also, can’t she differentiate?
I dont remember her ever telling me that someone lied to her in the past, worse things happened to her yes, but not this.I know, i agree with u but if we could work it out at least like this i would be happy, we will have opportunities to meet each other in the future, the thing is she can’t feel safe with me now..
Yes u are right, that would be my first term if we were to get back together, that she can move on from this or ask her how and if i can help with it going away somehow.But i figured that she never really trusted me ever since september and i told her, she said “its ur fault that u bring up ur ex all the time”, meanwhile i never mention her
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