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August 24, 2026 at 9:25 am #460588
TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
it’s great to see that you’re starting a new chapter, where you intend to live with more trust in yourself, and less fear, both in your relationships and your career.
Fear has been a major issue for me, and I’m still struggling with it… so unfortunately cannot give you tried and true tips on how to overcome it. But, I’ve just read very wise words on another thread, where a member said “fear disappears after u take the leap, not the other way around, u cant expect the situations to be ideal in order to do something because they will never be, we make them”.
Boy, is this true! Taking the leap (of faith), and then managing whatever obstacle or problem arises along the way, is I guess the way to go. Because fear will always be present, the question is only whether we let it paralyze us or not. So yeah, a big note to myself too (thank you Confused from the other thread 🙂 ).
Dear SereneWolf, wishing you many small steps of faith (if “leap” sounds too scary), in everyday decisions.
I’d love to hear more about your next chapter, or anything else you might want to share.
August 15, 2026 at 11:00 pm #460386
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
it’s good that you’re digging deeper into those patterns and understanding how and why his behavior hurt you, even if doing so is very painful for you.
I wasn’t really asking for a perfect conversation.
I wanted to feel like he wanted to know me.
It seems that the pattern was that initially, of his own accord, he would show no sincere interest in you. Then you’d complain about it, then he would try to accommodate you, but his behavior seemed forced and more like a chore, not something he’s happy to do:
It didn’t feel like two people who naturally wanted to talk to each other.
It felt like:
“Okay, tell me what you have to say.”
There were no follow-up questions. No curiosity. No little comments that make a conversation feel alive. I would say something, and there would be almost nothing coming back.
Or when making plans, he didn’t include or consult you, i.e. he didn’t take you into consideration. You only became interesting if his other plans fell through (It felt like I was the option that became available once everything else was uncertain.)
Also, he didn’t want to invite you to social events:
You can have plans with other people and still think, “Maybe she’d like to come.”
In fact, he was hiding you from other people, denying that you two are in a relationship. With such an attitude (a twisted attitude), it’s no wonder that he didn’t want to include you in his plans with other people. Since he wanted to keep your existence, or at least the nature of your relationship, a secret…
I told him I wanted him to ask questions without me having to poke him.
You wanted him to express genuine care and interest in you, without you having to nag about it…
And when I questioned why he hadn’t simply told me, the conversation somehow turned into an explanation of why my reaction was the problem.
And suddenly we weren’t talking about what happened anymore. We were talking about whether I was allowed to be upset about it.
He accuses you of reacting too emotionally (“losing yourself”), while refusing to acknowledge any bad behavior on his part. He accuses you of overreaction, however, he refuses to admit that you have the right to get upset, because his behavior is clearly upsetting and hurtful.
The following is a very profound realization:
And I think that’s where my anger actually comes from.
Underneath the anger is hurt.
Underneath the hurt is fear.
And underneath the fear is a very simple question:
“Do I matter to you in the way you matter to me?”
Yes. And I think the answer to the last question is quite clear and visible from the way he’s been treating you over the years.
I don’t need to prove that he’s a terrible person.
I don’t need to prove that he’s intentionally cruel.
I don’t even need to prove that he’s wrong.
I can simply acknowledge that I am miserable in this dynamic.
That’s an important realization too. Regardless of what his motives are, you can acknowledge to yourself that you feel miserable in this relationship. That his behavior is hurting you, and that the main problem in the relationship is not your sensitivity but his lack of care and respect for you. And empathy. In other words, the main problem in the relationship is not you, but him and his hurtful behavior.
And that’s difficult to accept because part of me still desperately wants him to become the person who finally gives me the thing I’ve been asking for.
It’s good that you’re aware of that need. Please know that the need to be treated with love, care and respect is a legitimate need.
It’s important that you don’t let him gaslight you into believing that your needs are too much. Don’t let him convince you that he is a loving and caring person while there is something terribly wrong with you.As for the need for him to change and meet your emotional needs, well, that part is a bit trickier, but it’s good that you are aware of that too.
The sad reality is that some people are emotionally stunted and unable to be in a healthy, mutually respectful relationship. They are also not willing to recognize that there is something wrong with them, but are shifting the blame on others. From his past reactions it seems he is one of those people, unfortunately.
He didn’t budge, i.e. didn’t become open to understanding your perspective and your pain, even after years of you trying to explain and beg. The chances that something would finally change and he would “see the light” are minuscule, I’m afraid.
Nevertheless, it’s good that you are aware of your emotional needs (which are totally legitimate), and also that you’re working om understanding yourself more and more. This will definitely help in your healing. <3
August 9, 2026 at 10:59 pm #459976
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
just a clarification: when I said that only we can heal our inner child, I didn’t mean we should do it alone.
It’s important to get help from supportive people, including a good therapist, a trusted friend, or e.g. a support group online. You need people who won’t blame you for having needs, who won’t tell you that you’re wrong or selfish for having them. I hope you do have or can find such people in your life. And please continue posting here, if it helps at all.
Wishing you all the best! <3
August 9, 2026 at 10:49 pm #459975
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
wow, you’re really diving into that book – I hope you’re finding it useful! <3
Happy to hear that you and your son are enjoying the summer! Wow, meeting a deer in a local park sounds pretty rare! Or is it a zoo type of establishment?
You really made a great progress with your healing and I’m happy for you! ❤️
I did have some unexpected obstacles getting my holiday started, but I haven’t given up! Hope to head to the beach soon! 😊
Wishing you a pleasant remainder of the summer! ❤️
August 8, 2026 at 1:49 pm #459942
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I hear you and understand your predicament: you have come to understand (rationally, intellectually) that your ex isn’t capable of giving you what you need. But emotionally, it’s hard to let go of him:
I don’t have a problem with understanding what? Why and how, but I have a problem with understanding how to proceed and let go of something like this.
Emotionally, it seems you’re still craving his validation: for him to tell you that you’re a good person and that you’re not wrong for having needs:
I have the urge to make him understand what he is doing wrong. How can he repair his behaviour and what he can do about me and I am constantly on purpose trying to validate myself in his mind so I can have like a validation that I’ve been a good person that I’ve done nothing wrong
We’ve talked about this before, but I think it’s your inner child that needs validation that she is a good person, who is worthy of love. That she did nothing wrong and has been wrongly accused. Your inner child is trying to finish the unfinished business with your father, and get love and validation from a person who reminds you of your father.
That’s what I think is going on, and why it’s so hard to let go. It is your inner child’s legitimate need for love and validation. Or as you said: the need for attention, love and care:
I am deep drowning in all my decisions in the past all of my situations romanticising everything and because of the lack of attention and love and care
You didn’t get those needs met while growing up: the need to attention, love, care, and validation. And you’re trying to meet them in romantic relationships… but you get attracted (like many of us do) to people who can’t meet those needs. But in all honesty, no one can meet our childhood needs, not even an emotionally healthy and mature partner. The only person who can do it is ourselves.
I wonder how open you are to the concept of inner child healing? It’s all about meeting our own childhood emotional needs (for love, care, attention, validation) and becoming emotionally whole within. It doesn’t mean that we don’t need anyone and become self-sufficient, but rather, that we can choose good, healthy relationships for ourselves, where we will be loved and appreciated for who we are.
I find this loop of being back in the past all the time which really bothers me and I cannot understand how to understand that if something is not working okay? That is not working, and just let it go.
I hope that my suggestion makes sense: that you can’t let go because of those unmet childhood emotional needs (for love, care, attention and validation). Which you now hope to get from your romantic partners (specially those who remind you of your neglectful/abusive father).
So it’s the inner child’s craving that doesn’t allow you to let go, and that makes you emotionally attached to this guy, even if you rationally know that he isn’t good for you.
What do you think? Does this make sense to you?
August 4, 2026 at 11:57 pm #459874
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I see your pain, but also a growing realization of the patterns in your relationship and how some things have been repeating over and over again.
It’s funny how he complained that he had peace in that month when you didn’t communicate (That for the entire month we weren’t talking, he had peace.), but still, he was the one who reached out first (Then, out of nowhere, he started texting me again.)
If I remember well, it’s not the first time that he was the one who withdraws (after listing his complaints about you), and then wants to reconnect after a while. He is the one who lures you into his web, gives you a day or two of “paradise”, and then quickly goes back to his old, cold and insensitive self.
It’s almost like he needs a hit of adrenaline or dopamine, and he gets it by enticing you, seducing you, getting what he wants from you, and then discarding you. He is there to take from you, not to give, I’m afraid.
While he is seducing you, he is of course on his best behavior:
It’s that twenty-four hours earlier he had shown me exactly the version of himself I had spent six years waiting for. He proved he could be attentive, warm, affectionate and emotionally present. He texted me all night. He asked questions. He cared about what I was doing. He made me feel safe.
That was the love-bombing, aka the hoovering phase: when the narcissist wants something from you and use all of their charm to seduce you. He knows exactly what you want and like, and how you like to be treated. But he only gives it to you during the love-bombing/hoovering phase. As soon as he gets what he wants from you, he switches off the charm and goes back to being cold.
Instead, I keep ending up in the same place—feeling guilty for wanting attention from the person who says he loves me.
That’s his biggest lie: that he loves you. More correct would be: he loves to use you. To take advantage of you.
And somehow, after all of that, I’m still the one wondering whether I’m the problem.
I think a part of the reason why you think like that is that he is always portraying you as the problem and himself as a loving and caring person. And he uses his intermittent love-bombing/”sweetness” as a proof that he is indeed loving and attentive.
Whereas in reality, a loving person doesn’t switch between hot and cold all the time. They are not caring and attentive one day, only to tell you that you have an ugly personality the next day.
What he is doing is bait-and-switch, actually. And it’s a manipulation tactic, not an expression of love.
And I think another reason why you tend to doubt yourself is your childhood experience, where you were blamed as well and where your needs didn’t matter. And so you’re more susceptible to such false accusations and self-doubt.
But it’s great that you’re realizing and acknowledging your truth more and more, and slowly but surely starting to reject his narrative.
As for action, I’m almost sure he’ll reach out again. Last time you said you were careful at first, but then he managed to do his trick on you:
At first I was careful. I didn’t want to believe anything had changed because I’ve been through this cycle too many times before. But then something happened that gave me hope again.
If he reaches out again, try to keep in mind that what he is doing is baiting. He hasn’t changed, he’s doing the same old trick again, even if it seems upgraded with extra “sweetness.” Try to see it as a baiting tactic, nothing more.
I am rooting for you, Eva! You’re doing an amazing job gaining more and more clarity. <3
July 30, 2026 at 6:55 am #459750
TeeParticipantDear Caroline,
I am really sorry you feel like doing a summary of your life because it has ended. It seems like the hope of a life being better again has ended? And you feel like you’ve become a different person and don’t recognize yourself anymore?
What I know for sure is that trauma and abuse can and do change us. I know you’ve had issues in your childhood that left you feeling not good enough. And there were things in your adult relationships as well, where it doesn’t seem like you were respected like you should have been. This can deepen our trauma and make us feel even more separated from ourselves.
If you feel like talking about any of it, you’re very welcome. I certainly hope that you can get in touch with your true self and real joy, rather than feeling like things need to stay the way they are and there is no hope for improvement. Rooting for you, Caroline, and hope to talk to you some more! ❤️
July 29, 2026 at 8:59 am #459722
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
I’m glad you find the book interesting – hope you’ll find it in the audio format as well!
Aw that’s so sweet that you went to the beach and he got to meet Mr. Crab and 2 fish!! 😊 I’m happy he’s enjoying the summer and has no fear of water either!
Also, it’s good to read that you’ve returned to that beach and are reclaiming it and making new memories… that’s a testimony of an amazing healing, Alessa! ❤️
My summer holidays haven’t started fully yet, but I hope to get to the beach very soon and make a splash 😊
July 29, 2026 at 7:41 am #459721
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I’m afraid he is still his old self, nothing has changed in his mind. Your attempts to explain how you feel by using a metaphor haven’t moved him either… He is sticking to his perspective, which is that he is a good guy, patient, that he’s been giving you time to sort yourself out, but that you keep bothering him with your complaints:
He answered that he had also been patient with me. He said he’d warned me for over a year that he was reaching his limit, that he’d given me multiple chances, broke his own promises to leave because he kept hoping things would improve, but nothing changed from his perspective.
His perspective is also this:
From his perspective, I’m exhausting. I’m too emotional. I create conflict. I don’t appreciate what he does. He says a relationship should bring peace, and that I’m the reason it doesn’t.
No matter how hard you try explaining, his perspective isn’t changing. He thinks he is giving you chances. He is waiting for you to change.
Whereas your perspective is this:
From my perspective, I spent years fighting for what felt like basic emotional connection: communication, reassurance, affection, and feeling chosen.
As we’ve discussed earlier, your perspective it true. Based on everything you’ve shared, he is a selfish man who is only using you, and intends to use you until you say stop, I’m afraid.
It’s great that you can see things much more clearly now, and could articulate it to him:
I’ve stretched my own boundaries for him far more than I should have.
I don’t deserve to be treated like this.
If he’s afraid of commitment or emotional vulnerability, that’s something he has to figure out himself.
The way he treats me doesn’t resemble love anymore.
I’m tired of having to convince someone why I deserve kindness.That’s amazing that you have that clarity. Now the next step would be to realize and accept – no matter how hard it is – that he isn’t going to change. That trying to make him understand and see your point is futile.
Because what seems to be happening is that you try to explain, you put your foot down and stand up for yourself. And then he gives you breadcrumbs and spends a nice evening with you, effectively disarming you, making you soft and all hopeful again. And you stay hooked in that spider web of his, where you keep hoping that he would change, trying to explain things, getting confused again by his intermittent “sweetness”, and the cycle continues…
I’m afraid it’s never going to get better, Eva. He’s not changing, he doesn’t have the slightest intention to change. In fact, he is telling you that you should change, and that he’s not happy with you not changing. And that that’s why he has been thinking about breaking up for good for the last year.
Do you see that his and your perspective are diametrically opposite? You want him to change, while he doesn’t see any fault in his behavior and wants you to change??
Because from my perspective, asking someone out, spending a lovely evening together, kissing them… and then saying the next morning, “I’m still thinking about what we should do” feels incredibly confusing.
Yes, it is, and it’s very hurtful. And as you said, terribly confusing. But that’s one of their (a narcissistic person’s) main strategies: mixed messages. He is toying with you, giving you just enough breadcrumbs to keep you hooked. Awakening that hope in you again and again… and then letting you down the next morning. It’s his tactics, Eva, not something he wants to grow out of or heal.
The only way is to see through his manipulation and stop hoping that he would change… I know it’s hard, especially because he can occasionally be so sweet and kind. But that’s the intermittent reinforcement and serves to keep you hooked, even if he doesn’t have any serious intention to change.
July 22, 2026 at 3:22 am #459551
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
you’re very welcome, I hope the books is helpful! Gabor Maté is an expert in childhood needs (and teaches the concept of the inner child too), and he is aware of the mistakes he himself made as a young parent.. So I hope he can give good guidance on authoritative parenting, setting loving boundaries etc.
Oh I see, it’s mostly for the group excursions to the nearby forest that you worry he might have problems with, because it is required that he hold hands with another kid when crossing the road and moves along swiftly, I guess, without stopping frequently and getting distracted, right? Perhaps you can practice walking across the same road with him, holding his hand, so he gets used to it? And if he is reluctant, maybe you can say it’s a practice for his kindergarten and a precondition for going to group excursions?
I do hope he fits in well and adjusts quickly to the new environment. 🙏
Thank you so much for your kindness and support, Alessa, and wishing you and your boy happy summer days! 😊❤️
July 18, 2026 at 2:55 am #459491
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
thank you for your understanding and prayers for more good days – that’s exactly what I’m praying for too 🙏 ❤️
Good to hear that you’ve got everything ready for your boy for November!
As for dealing with temper tantrums, the experts say it’s most important to establish a strong, secure attachment with the child, which will in turn help them deal with occasional frustration. In fact, they say that it’s okay to let the child feel a mild frustration occasionally (e.g. saying no to something), because that will help them deal with frustration later during school years and beyond.
There is a book on parenting, written by an expert whom I greatly admire, Dr. Gabor Maté. I didn’t know he wrote a book on parenting too, but I can imagine it’s really valuable. The title is “Hold On to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers“, by Dr. Gordon Neufeld & Gabor Maté.
I totally get that you don’t want to cause any trauma to your son, but it seems it’s okay to cause mild frustration (i.e. set boundaries that no kid likes) – if there is a loving, secure attachment, where they can express their frustration and still be held lovingly by you, rather than being punished for expressing their anger.
Wishing you and your boy a successful start of a new big chapter in life! ❤️
July 16, 2026 at 9:10 am #459477
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I feel how his comments influence me now, and I feel like I am not beautiful or enough. I think he purposefully acted like an asshole towards me for some reason. I feel like he would mock me with his friends group now, that I am stupid or naive or whatever.
Even if he acted like an a**hole on purpose, he is still an a**hole, no doubt about that. And as Roberta said, you don’t want to bother about what an a**hole thinks of you. You don’t want to take such a person’s opinion into consideration.
I’m sorry that his comments hurt you, but please disregard them because they speak of him, not of you. The best would be to ignore him. If you meet him during working hours, you may greet him and that’s it. I wouldn’t get into discussions with him, nor would I try to prove anything, or to revenge in some way. You don’t need to act tough or bitchy – simply ignore him. Don’t react to him, even if he tries to provoke you.
Part of me thought it was strange because he didn’t seem interested in taking me on an actual date, getting coffee, or getting to know each other properly. But I also felt like this was probably the only chance we’d actually spend time together, so I said yes.
It sounds like a part of you had a healthy self-protective reaction, because you didn’t really know much about him (including what kind of motorbike rider he is).. but another part of you really wanted to get to know him better, and so you’ve overridden your healthy instinct in order to accommodate him.
It’s good than nothing bad happened and as you said, he wasn’t physically aggressive or anything. But still, perhaps the way forward would be to listen to your gut feeling more, and if something feels off or not to your liking, to simply refuse it. You’re allowed to take care of yourself and your needs first (including your safety needs), and if someone doesn’t want to respect that, well, too bad for them, then they don’t deserve your attention.
What do you say?
July 16, 2026 at 4:10 am #459464
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I won’t beat around the bush, but immediately answer your question:
Does this sound like someone who’s just very blunt, or does his overall attitude seem disrespectful to you too?
Oh yes, his overall attitude seems very disrespectful – he takes you out on what seems to be an ad hoc date and then spends time putting you down and criticizing you.
And he agrees in some aspects with Andrew Tate, whom I don’t know much about, except that he is a self-proclaimed misogynist, who was “charged with rape, human trafficking and forming an organised crime group to sexually exploit women.”
I wonder what kind of treatment he thinks is fine “if a woman deserves it”…?
He didn’t seem curious about getting to know me.
It felt like he was constantly labeling me, judging me, or telling me what kind of person I was instead of asking questions.There you go, Eva, you’ve described him well: a judgmental, disrespectful, macho/misogynist guy, who didn’t even bother to pretend that he likes you. Which is in a way better, because at least he’s shown you his true face immediately, unlike your ex who was very sweet in the beginning. So at least he doesn’t pretend to be something that he isn’t.
But it only means one thing: stay away from him, you don’t want to have anything to do with a guy like that. He seems he enjoyed putting you down and toying with you!
Instead I came home wondering if I had just gone out with someone who’s emotionally immature, trying too hard to be “macho,” or if this is just a completely normal personality type that some women actually enjoy.
This is not a normal personality type, but a women-hater. I can’t think of a woman who would enjoy being told that she is too skinny, that she overdressed, that she is flawed in this or that way – on the first outing with a guy! Heck, he told you you’re not normal (“You’re alternative. “alternative girls aren’t normal”.).
So really, I don’t think there’s any doubt about who he really is and how he likes to treat women.
I’d genuinely appreciate outside opinions because I feel like my previous relationship has made me question my own judgment.
Your judgment is fine Eva, you’ve spotted the red flags immediately. And my suggestion is: lose his number, don’t contact him, and don’t go on any more dates, even if he asks you.
July 13, 2026 at 1:06 am #459413
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
first I’d like to say that no matter how hard it is for you to finally see the truth, it’s great that you can do it and that you can so clearly express your outrage at how things have been for such a long time.
I’m deeply sorry things happened this way. I genuinely believed I wanted us to work and that I could build a life with him. But if there’s one thing I remember, it’s that I always felt alone in that relationship.
Lonely. Sad. Frustrated. Jealous. Like I wasn’t enough. Desperate. Insecure.
I don’t know how I kept allowing that for so many years. That’s not what a partner is supposed to make you feel. That’s not what a relationship is supposed to be. That’s not what life is supposed to be.
It’s great that you can see that this is not how a relationship should be. I think this alone is the first step to healing: realizing that how he treated you was toxic and that you absolutely don’t deserve it and shouldn’t accept it in any future relationship.
This right there could be a set of red flags for a future relationship: if your partner is dismissing your feelings and your needs, if he is hiding you from the world and making excuses, if he is blaming you for having legitimate needs, if he refuses to take responsibility for his bad behavior.
And no, I don’t think I’ll ever understand how he could look at me with so little regard that he allowed himself to treat me that way.
A narcissistic person unfortunately has little regard for others and can go to great lengths at exploiting people if no boundaries are set. The cure with those people, and in general in relationships, is to love and respect ourselves enough and not allow them to treat us like that.
In other words, you have to stand up for yourself and not allow them to treat you like that. You cannot count on them to “see the light” and treat you better.
I think this subject has been analyzed and talked to death over all these years. The only thing that was ever missing was real action—something lasting that would actually change things. And in this case, there was only one possible action left:
The end.
Sadly.
Yes, you’ve try to talk about it with him for many years. But it fell on deaf ears, because unfortunately he is not the kind of person who had empathy or understanding for you. He was using various tricks to keep you hopeful, but nothing was ever changing. He was just using you.
And now you’ve finally had enough, now you could finally see through his lies and manipulations. Which is great. That you broke the spell.
Even if you’re sorry that it ended, with this particular person it’s better that it ended. Because as you said it yourself, that’s not the kind of relationship you want. You don’t want to dig yourself into something that leaves you “Lonely. Sad. Frustrated. Jealous. Like I wasn’t enough. Desperate. Insecure”.
It’s time to turn a new page, and I’m glad you’re feeling it too. I think the first thing is to make sure that you don’t get tempted to text him (or if you do get tempted, to not actually send the text, because you know from past experiences that it leads to another cycle of the same kind of misery.) How are you feeling on that front, Eva? Do you think your resolve is strong enough to stay away from him, even if he reaches out?
I think the steps outlined by Darren Magee (which I outlined above) can be a great help, specifically in fighting the urge to go back, and in general in recovery after narcissistic abuse. What do you think, have you taken a look?
Let me know how you’re feeling and what you think/feel would be the best next step for you <3
July 12, 2026 at 11:31 am #459403
TeeParticipantDear Eva,
I’m sorry you’re feeling this way. But it’s totally understandable after finally seeing the truth of the situation, the truth of his callousness and manipulation…. that you feel extremely disappointed and angry at him, yourself and life.
It has been a rude awakening but a necessary one, and from now on, you can start building your life on something real and solid. But it will be a long process to slowly get to know yourself and appreciate yourself. And love yourself…
You said last year that you only know toxic love. That too is understandable, unfortunately, since your upbringing was far from ideal. You didn’t get a healthy and supportive parental love. And so you have a hard time feeling love and compassion for yourself…
I’m 28 years old, my family expects me to do something glamorous with my life, but I do it, everyone has expectations for me and I don’t know where to start. I don’t know what I want, I don’t know where I’m going, I don’t know how I imagine my life, I don’t know where to start, I don’t even know how to achieve what I want, everything seems unattainable to me.
You’d need to get in touch with yourself. With your needs, desires, likes, dislikes… Instead of trying to please others and caring about their needs, you’d need to turn your attention inwards and listen to what you need….
Slow things down, put on pause those outside voices and their expectations, and listen to yourself, to the song of your soul. I’m not saying this is easy, but the real liberation is within, in getting in touch with your true, beautiful, unique self <3
How does this sound?
If you want to explore things further, I’d be happy to help if I can <3
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