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TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
Do you make new year resolutions every year?
No, I’ve stopped doing that long ago. I used to, but I’ve never followed through, so it was pointless. Just recently I’ve watched a Henry Cloud video, where he said that unless we don’t change anything in our routine, what difference will a flip of the calendar make?
The way I see it, New Year’s resolutions sound good in theory, because we’re beginning a new year, with all those possibilities in front of us. But we’ll need to introduce some changes (first in our mindset, and then in our routine too) if we really want those goals to come true.
Yes, that is what I’m trying to do but it’s no easy thing to be honest
When is it the hardest for you to be compassionate with yourself? Maybe if you can give me an example?
Remember when I told you that I believe in action-oriented things? So It’s because of this, otherwise I just dwell in overthinking about outcomes, and it takes lot of time and drain my energy as well. Although it still happens sometimes
So if I understood you well, you are action-oriented and strive to implement new things ASAP, without too much thinking about it and analyzing it in advance, because if you do, you’ll end up overthinking and it will drain your energy. Is this what you’re saying? So you just plunge into it right away, and see what happens?
If so, it’s not necessarily a bad strategy. You can be action-oriented and still compassionate with yourself. For example, you can tell yourself something like “okay, let’s try introducing the employees’ feedback box and see how they like it”. You’re kind of curious and relaxed about the outcome.
But if you say to yourself “I want to learn how to be a great leader by the end of the month, and I need to introduce the employee’s feedback box and all these other novelties, because that should help me become a great leader in 30 days” – well that would be putting a lot of pressure on yourself. I don’t know what your attitude is, but perhaps it’s something similar to the latter?
Maybe yes.. That time first thing I wanted was Freedom which I have now and I’m really appreciating it. And If I didn’t moved out I don’t think I’d be developed this much as per mindset.
Because my parents are overprotective. For example I started swimming classes and after a week I’ve told them but at village in my teenage years they be like don’t go inside deep water and do this and that and me and my siblings weren’t allowed to go swimming without my cousin who’s an expert swimmer, but I didn’t learned swimming like that. Even when I started swimming lessons, they asked hundreds of questions. If I’m getting watery eyes, Water is too cold and blah blah.. But finally I’ve learned swimming because My parents weren’t around me to stop.
I see… so your motivation was to be free both from their judgment, but also from their constraints and limitations. They were overprotective, they tried to stop you from learning new things, because they were afraid for your safety. And too afraid indeed, because you weren’t trying to do anything dangerous or reckless, but you were simply trying to learn how to swim – and you took swimming classes. You weren’t trying to learn to swim alone, in a lake or a river, without anyone to oversee you. But they were still afraid…
I can relate because my mother refused to buy me a bike, because she was afraid I’d get overrun by a car… And so I’ve never learned how to ride a bike in my childhood, and it got ever more difficult as I got older. I did try it as an adult but never got good at bike riding… because of my mother’s fears.
So the thing that I noticed is that first of all even parents are not believing in their kids that they can handle themselves and making them feel more dependent or not enough, which is kind of true reality for lot of families here nowadays.
You’re right, many parents fear for their kids, to the point of being overprotective and stifling their child’s growth and development. My mother was certainly like that, and I myself was quite an anxious child too, so I stayed by my mother’s side rather than venturing out to explore the world…
Luckily, you were a different type. You didn’t allow yourself to get intimidated by them. You ventured out on your own, and dared to try many new things.
Yes I agree with this. That’s why I’m trying to be mindful about my inner voice now even though nowadays it’s keep telling what’s next? what are you doing?
I wonder if the push to always try new things and never give yourself a break is in part related to your fear of being “subdued” and made dependent/controlled by your parents? A subconscious fear that if you don’t keep moving, they’ll catch up with you and “restrain” you and you’ll lose your freedom?
TeeParticipantDear Lost1Flow,
I think perhaps deep down I’ve realized some of these things as well, but denied/refused to accept the truths because they are so hard to accept.
I am glad you’re now allowing yourself to accept some of those hard truths, even though they hurt…
So many therapist also say, ‘we cannot blame our parents for everything
We don’t need to blame them (as in forever, eternally resenting them and never forgiving them). However, we need to know how they failed to meet our needs. As Barbara Heffernan, a psychologist that I follow on youtube, said: “Healing is a fact-finding, not a fault-finding mission.” You need to know the facts, so you can act accordingly.
She was never in a happy marriage with my father. It wasn’t an actual arranged marriage, but pretty close. So yes, I was her everything emotionally and friendship-wise in place of him. She made excuse after excuse why she couldn’t leave him, but never actually did. So yes, there was definitely a lot of neediness even prior to my brother’s death (he was 15, I was 13).
Right… it’s pretty clear that she used you to meet her own emotional needs, instead of vice versa – to be there for you and meet your emotional needs. Role reversal happened, and you became like a parent to her – you were “parentified”.
There is a good youtube video on parentification, titled “Copying with being a parentified child“, by Kati Morton. She also talks about strategies how to heal. One is to grieve the childhood you’ve never had, another one is to allow yourself to be child-like and do things that make you happy, spontaneous and care-free.
But I think the most important would be to slowly get disentangled from your mother’s grip. You said:
My life is just such a sad existence of going to work, dealing with them, and being too exhausted for much else.
You’d need to change that, and introduce a time in a day for self-care: where you do things only for yourself, meet your own needs, do something you like and enjoy. Try to claim some time and space for yourself, don’t stay 100% dedicated to your mother. And don’t feel guilty about it, because you deserve it. It is your right.
So mu advice is to change your daily routine, even if ever so slightly, to include more of your needs and preferences, and less of your mother’s. She will probably object, but stay firm and don’t allow her to guilt-trip you. Remember: you deserve it and it is your right!
TeeParticipantDear Lost1Flow,
I understand the difficult situation you found yourself in after your brother’s tragic death. Both you and your mother were devastated, and the mourning probably made you even closer. You said she became very clingy, and you became her only support. How old were you when the accident happened, if I may ask?
What is interesting is that your mother didn’t turn to your father for support in those difficult times, but she relied on you. This tells me that your father probably wasn’t too emotionally available. Is he the type of person who doesn’t express emotions, and couldn’t really talk about emotions after your brother’s death?
If he was/is an emotionally unavailable man, then what probably happened is that your mother found an emotional partner in you. She could share with you what she couldn’t share with him. And she got dependent on you and needy, like a child.
Maybe that neediness was present in her even before your brother’s death, but it was less obvious, because she was somehow coping. But your brother’s death triggered it, and she regressed, so to speak, into a helpless, child-like state. I am only guessing this – please correct me if I am wrong.
And she hasn’t recovered from that neediness, even if years have passed since your brother’s death. She became totally dependent on you. In the past you’ve encouraged her to reach out to people and make new friends, but she refused. She kept clinging to you.
I imagine things became even more difficult when your granny got sick, as well as your father, and she became their care-taker. Then there was no way she would let you leave her side…. and so over time, this clinginess and codependency turned into a beast, as you’ve called it.
In fact, she is clingy, and you are codependent. Because you’re taking care of a person who doesn’t want to take care of her own needs, and expects you to take care of her emotionally. You feel responsible for her well-being, while she refuses to take responsibility for it.
Even though she is telling you she wants you to have a life of your own, she doesn’t really mean it, because in her mind, it would mean like being abandoned and helpless and alone. I think this is the message she is sending you, either directly or indirectly: that if you leave, it will ruin her. And of course, it makes you feel tremendously guilty, because you don’t want to cause harm to your mother. You feel trapped, because you really believe that she won’t make it without you.
Would you say this is true?
TeeParticipantDear Lost1Flow,
you’re welcome, and happy New Year to you!
She always thought I deserved someone who “treated me better”, but I honestly was happy enough. … I think she was jealous that he was taking away my time from her, which I only really realized when I was away from it.
It does seem your mother wasn’t motivated only by her concern for you and your well-being, but also by her self-interest to have you near her, being completely dedicated to her.
You say that you are her “sole friend/companion/emotional support/aid” – which means you are meeting all of her emotional needs. No wonder she wants to keep you just for herself.
But that’s pretty selfish of her. When she says she wants you to live your life, I don’t think she is really honest about it. Because if you lived your own life, cared about your own needs and even had someone else in your life – you wouldn’t be able to care for her so much, and be her emotional crutch.
She has been a good mother me, though. I’m painting a terribly one-sided picture. I know she made sacrifices for me growing up
Maybe she did make sacrifices for you, but now she is asking you to sacrifice your life for her. Good parents usually don’t expect that kind of sacrifice…
I am sorry if this isn’t the most positive note to start the new year on, but I feel it’s the reality that needs to be taken into account…
TeeParticipantDear Lost1Flow,
I’d like to address something you’ve said about your family:
I had a chance at having my own life, with a man I really loved years ago, but my family kept me away from him. Now he’s married. How do I move past the resentment that they kept me (and continue keeping me) from a happy, normal life of my own?
Your family prevented you from building a life with the man you really loved. Since you feel resentment towards them, it tells me they have wronged you. Because he wasn’t a bad person, was he? You could have been happy with him, or at least you could have tried. But your family somehow convinced you to forego that marriage and stay with them, perhaps so you can take care of them?
Your mother says she wants the best for you:
She says she wants me to live my life, but at the same time she’s so dependent on me.
But let me ask you something: when you wanted to marry the man you loved, how supportive was she of that?
TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
thank you for your best wishes! I too wish you a happy, healthy and successful (yet serene 🙂 ) New Year!!
I guess but I don’t want this fear because it’s limiting fear
Yes, it is limiting… fear of your parents’ judgment makes you anxious and drains your energy, as you’ve once said. I think the only antidote to that fear is to tell yourself that even if your parents judge you, you won’t judge yourself. In other words, to have compassion for yourself, even if your parents don’t.
This is so true because of my impatience
Right.. so your inner critic took over the judgemental attitude of your parents and is pushing you to perform faster, better…. An image comes to mind of you being like a jockey, pushing and hitting your horse to run faster and faster… and being angry at him if he cannot run so fast.
Again right but I talked about this with a friend and she told me that striving to be better ain’t wrong just being self-compassionate along is what should I do…
That’s absolutely true – striving to be better isn’t wrong in itself. But you yourself admitted that you push yourself hard because you’re impatient. Which means you’re not compassionate with yourself when it comes to learning new skills and your job performance in general.
Hmm for this I’d say that I’m not sure. But could be the root cause because Since teenage Most of the time my expectations are higher from myself first.
You’ve moved away from home when you were 16. Maybe you wanted to move away from your parents’ relentless judgment… But the thing is that by that time your inner critic had already soaked in their judgments, and so you’ve become your own worst critic. Even if your parents are (or seem) much milder nowadays, it is you who is pushing yourself hard…
TeeParticipantDear Dan,
have you been affected by the recent “bomb cyclone”, like some parts of the US were?
Good to hear you’re planning to return to something you’ve loved since you were 6 years old: martial arts! The more of the enjoyable activities you include in your schedule, I think it will be easier to stay away from unhealthy habits… And of course, dealing with your core wounds would help a lot… Are you still going to therapy?
Happy New Year, Dan! I hope it will be a much better one than the year behind us. I too hope we can stay in touch. All the best to you!
TeeParticipantDear Lukas,
good to hear from you, and specially that you’re working on your plan to leave the consumption based business world.
And i had a realization while reflecting. I somehow lost my Joy a long the way and with it my light heartedness.
Are you aware of what is stealing your joy? Perhaps there is a negative voice in your head telling you something, which makes you lose your joy? (e.g. perhaps there is a voice in your head telling you that you’ll never be happy and you’ll always stay behind, no matter what you do?)
TeeParticipantI forgot to say: Happy birthday to you, Katrine! May this New Year be a really good one for you!!
Dear anita, happy birthday to you too! And happy New Year as well!!
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
you know, when I read that old post from April 2021, I thought to myself that it might be your sister who was spreading lies to your friend, because this friend accused you of the same things as your sister accused you of after not attending to her son’s christening (that you’re doing it on purpose to deliberately hurt her). It was the same accusation, so I thought it might have been actually her.
I understand why you didn’t want to admit it back then – because you were still so much gaslighted by her that it was a taboo to even think that she might be abusive to you. You were also conditioned by your parents to see her as the victim, and yourself as bad if you didn’t comply with her demands. So in your mind, you were the abuser and she was the victim. And then your friend (the one suffering from BPD) accused you of the same – and you totally believed it.
I can imagine how hard it was for you, and how it contributed to you feeling really badly about yourself and blaming yourself. The only positive role in all of this is your other friend, who saw things much more clearly and warned you that your sister might be faking a lot of things, and that she’s out of line for treating you like that. That’s a good and trustworthy friend! I hope you’re still in touch with her!
They became best friends due to this lie. My sister would even bring her gifts from helping her with her computer but never said a simple thanks to me or my parents for putting aside our lives helping her out. It still hurts thinking about it.
Yes I can imagine… as I was studying narcissism a bit more intensely these days, I’ve learned that it’s actually a typical behavior that narcissists are double faced: They show a fake kind face to the outside world, to get praise and admiration. And they show their true, selfish face to their immediate family. Your sister was/is doing the same: kind to other people, and rude and exploitative/ungrateful with her immediate family.
I think the best way to feel less hurt by her is that you see her as she is, and to stop expecting her to be kind to you. To stop expecting her to change. And also, as I’ve said before, to stop believing the accusations she hurls at you. If she tells you you’re a bad person, you don’t believe it, you know it’s a lie.
So those two things are crucial: 1) don’t trust her, and 2) stop expecting anything from her. And then third, spend as little time as possible with her, specially with her alone. I’d spend zero time with her alone, if possible. Instead, spend as much time as possible with people who genuinely support you and have your best interests in mind, such as your other friend.
And of course, make new friends outside of your sister’s circle – which is what you’ve been already doing. Far from her reach, you are free to be yourself and free to be seen as you are, not as your sister sees you.
I am so happy that X and Y have invited to you to their New Year’s Eve party. There might be even a benefit to coming late – you can just sneak in, similarly to how you used to sneak out 🙂 With not much pomp, you just show up and let X and Y know that you’re there. I guess there will be a lot of people there, with music etc, so they probably won’t all sit around a table looking at the door 🙂 But even if you get some attention, remember that you’re OKAY, that people like you, and that there’s nothing wrong with you!
Happy New Year to you too, Katrine! I wish you a fun, pleasant, as relaxed as possible New Year’s Eve!
TeeParticipantDear Hello,
you’re welcome. It’s good to hear all is going according to the schedule!
He’s still love bombing anc going into bouts of crying saying he doesn’t understand every so often.
When they don’t get what they want, narcissists often play the victim and accuse the other party. He’s not able or willing to understand why you’re leaving him. He is not owning any of his bad behavior and is acting as if he were the hurt party. As if you are doing something bad to him. That’s role reversal. Narcissists regularly do that: portraying themselves as the victim and accusing you (the victim) to be the actual abuser.
It’s extremely sad and disturbing at the same time to watch this level of mental illness.
I think the greatest problem with NPD is that the person refuses to admit there’s anything wrong with them. Instead, they blame and accuse others. That’s why there’s no hope for healing either, in most of the cases.
I had no idea just how severe it was until I became aware of his disorder.
I am glad that you finally saw it as it is. It does help tremendously when we can finally name and understand what’s going on, because as Dr. Ramani says: when we know what we’re dealing with, we can then act strategically. And that’s exactly what you’ve been doing since…
I will be free of it soon and so will my daughters. Luckily they were not affected negatively by him
That’s good to hear. So he hasn’t been putting them down, criticizing them, or manipulating them in some way?
TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
yes, hypothyrodism and Hashimoto have similar symptoms and the same treatment (hormone supplementation), but it’s still good to know what exactly the diagnosis is, and how your thyroid looks like. For example, an acquaintance of mine has hypothyroidism because his thyroid is physically too small. He doesn’t have Hashimo (i.e. the structure of the gland is fine), but it is simply too small to produce enough hormone. And so he needs to take supplementation.
Yes so I’m trying to erase that engraved thing. I literally had a dream like a week ago before my parents planning to visit, and I was anxious what’s going to happen. But thankfully everything went well.
Yes [you fear you’d disappoint them]. Like even for little things sometimes
It seems to me you’re still trying to meet their expectations, and you might still fear their judgment. You said earlier that they approve of the field of work you’ve chosen (IT industry). But had you chosen something else, they might not approve of it, because you said they do make comments about other young people from your place of origin choosing the “wrong” path.
So their judgmental attitude hasn’t disappeared, it seems to me, but it’s not currently pointed against you, because you’re meeting their expectations (finishing your bachelor’s degree and planning to enroll an MBA). But should you fail, or do things slower than expected, perhaps you fear they would judge you again?
Another option is that they really stopped being judgmental (which in my opinion is a less probable option), and your fear of not meeting their expectations stems only from the past.
But even if they aren’t judgmental any more, it is your inner critic that is judging you for not being good enough, for not meeting your own expectations as quickly as possible. Here is an example from your other thread, where you said that you fear you’re not learning fast enough:
I’m in competitive environment like where all people like, Grow this metrics, learn this, learn that skill we’re fast pacing company and etc.. so all this fast learning maybe making me feel very competitive and that’s why inside my head I be like I do have to be better otherwise I’d be behind like before.. so it’s that fear
It’s a pressure – coming from your inner critic – to perform better, quicker, faster… not only in the technical skills but also in the soft skills. You’ve asked me in your latest post how to learn the soft skills methodically (how you’re noting things down? For Learning in general. I’m thinking about creating the new framework for learning for kind of the soft skills and things I have to work on…). You also said that this pressure to learn new things as quickly as possible overwhelms you (I do feel overwhelmed sometimes).
It’s really commendable that you’re so enthusiastic about learning, and specially learning the soft skills and being as good a leader as possible. And I am impressed by your willingness to learn and implement new things. However, I think that a part of your motivation comes from the feeling of not being good enough, i.e. the inner critical voice is pushing you to master all these skills as soon as possible. Which is making you feel overwhelmed and lagging behind.
So there’s a healthy drive for learning, it seems to me, and an unhealthy drive as well. The latter stems from a feeling of lack, not being good enough, and not wanting to be a failure. In other words, it seems to me that a part of your motivation for learning stems from not wanting to disappoint your parents. Would you say that’s true?
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
I am so glad that your Christmas went well, even better than you expected! And that you’ve been going out with your colleagues and that they have a genuine interest to hang around with you. They don’t reject you but in fact welcome you with open arms. That’s so precious and reassuring! And you even managed to do some small talk with the guy you like and didn’t get too anxious. These are all very good news. I am happy for you!
Your sister spreading lies about you is a hallmark of a narcissist. You wrote in another thread (Feeling betrayed), in April 2021, that you had two close friends, and one of them was spreading lies about you to the other. As a result, they stopped being friends with you, and instead became best friends themselves:
I had a close friend. We had been good friends for years, and never had an argument or so. But then that changed. We had made plans to meet up, but on the day I had a meltdown due to stress. I was so stressed out like just crying my eyes out. So I cancelled, and she said okay no worries. Then over the next few months I couldn’t really make plans with her, she kept backing out. I then called her to say if it’s about the plans that I cancelled I’m so sorry that i did it on the day and cutting it so close. She got angry and said it wasn’t that I cancelled, it was the fact that i did it on purpose to deliberately hurt her because I had been angry with her for a month. I hadn’t been angry with her at all or anyting like that. I told her the truth of what had happened that day, that caused me to have a meltdown. She didn’t believe me. She said a friend of mine had revealed my vicious plan to her and that she thought she had a right to know about it. I was in chock. Someone i trusted told lies to her behind my back, and my friend believed her over me. They have now become best friends over this, and I have been left an emotional wreck.
So this friend of yours who revealed your “vicious plan” to the other friend and caused the friendship to fall apart – was she influenced by your sister? Was it your sister who first spread lies about you to one friend, and then this friend repeated those lies to your other friend?
I remember that during the pandemic her and her boyfriend would drive the two hours to my parents (where I was living at home, after losing my job and everything) and say hi to us and then go for lunch at a girls house that I am no longer friends with because of my sister telling lies about me. Being exluded by the two of the closests people in my life (only had two friends and my sister back home) and for them to become best friends because of my sisters lies about me is so hurtful I can’t explain it. And seing my sister open a present from her on Christmas eve did hurt, but I maneged to not get too emotional.
This is horribly hurtful, and I am so sorry about it, Katrine. To lose two close friends because of your sister’s lies. But it also shows those two friends have some issues and blind spots, if they could believe your sister so easily. You did say that one of them is diagnosed with BPD, so that could be a reason why she believed your sister.
People with BPD are very black-and-white thinking, and so I can imagine she felt “rejected” by you when you cancelled the meeting, and believed that it was a proof that you “don’t like her”. When another person told her lies about you (that indeed, you’re a bad person and that you cancelled on purpose to deliberately hurt her), she easily fell for it, because she wanted to believe it. That’s how she saw the world – either with her or against her.
only had two friends and my sister back home
You had only 2 close friends, and they were also friends with your sister, right? You didn’t have friends independently of your sister? If so, it’s quite possible that they were all influenced and manipulated by her, and eventually served as her “flying monkeys”. Flying monkeys are people who believe the narcissist and blame the victim. Perhaps the girl who angrily called you after you didn’t come to meet-your-sister’s-boyfriend event is one of those 2 friends whom you’ve lost since?
I am so glad that you’re making new friends now, independently of your sister. And that they are good people who appreciate you and have good intentions towards you!
TeeParticipantDear Hello,
you’re welcome and thank you for your blessings!
I am so glad that he hasn’t managed to fool you or distract you in the meanwhile, and that you’re on track with packing and moving!
Also, I am very glad that your daughters took the announcement very well, and are actually excited about starting a new chapter away from him. I imagine they don’t particularly like him?
I can tell you that yesterday was the happiest I’ve felt in a few years.
No wonder, since you have finally seen through him and decided to free yourself from his abuse (manipulation, guilting me, projection, love bombing… when I’m around him I feel like I’m being poisoned.).
But Im not affected by them
His abuse and manipulation don’t have power over you any longer. You saw through him and his words lost power. You don’t believe him when he says you’re a bad person. His words have zero, or almost zero weight to you, and that’s why you feel free!
I’ve realized fully now that he’s been an abuser all this time and I know I’ll have to heal from that.
Yes, you’ll need some healing, but it might not be such an arduous task for you like it was for his first wife, because you have done a lot of personal growth during your marriage, and you’ve grown a lot. At the beginning of this thread you were already willing to let him go because you said you’ve tried everything but nothing worked (I pretty much don’t have anything left and am ready to move forward with my life in peace.).
So it seems to me you’ve come a long way in the last 3 years. You’ve made yourself strong enough to leave. And when you’ve realized that he has a NPD, everything fell into place and it only confirmed what you already suspected: that he isn’t willing to change. This only strengthened your resolve to leave ASAP.
So I think you might be well prepared – mentally, emotionally and also from a practical point of view – to start a new chapter. But of course, you can’t just press the switch and forget all about him and his abuse. It will take time till you process it all.
Dr. Ramani is a great resource on all things narcissism. She has a youtube channel “DoctorRamani”, with hundreds of videos. So if you need an expert opinion, I highly recommend her videos.
Wishing you further success with moving in the following days!
TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
Merry Christmas to you too! I am fine, thank you.
Well my TSH levels aren’t within limits 6.67 so (Ref Range – 0.4 and 4.5) (mU/L) That’s why I started the treatment
So it’s hypothyroidism… could be autoimmune disease too (Hashimoto syndrome). That’s why I’d check it on the ultrasound as well, just to be sure.
Okay so I spent some time with my parents and I can safely say they’re aren’t like before.
I am glad to hear that!
I used to think they just prefer to judge me all the time. But I think it’s because of the past patterns I’m thinking like that and I need their approval and I don’t want to disappoint them.
Yes, it’s because of the old patterns – they did judge you quite a lot in the past, and it sticks. It gets “engraved” into our brain…
But another thing is that now I don’t crave any validation from them. Which I think little better
But I do feel like fear of disappointment is still there
So you feel you don’t need their approval and validation any more, but you do fear you’d disappoint them?
Nowadays I’m feeling emotional and kind of anxious as well (I can’t think of a reason why) So I’m just telling myself to take a long breath and look how far you’ve come and be proud of that and take little steps from there…Everything will be alright
That’s a good way to soothe yourself. You’re having lots of compassion for yourself. And you’re telling yourself that everything will be fine, which is a good way to reassure yourself. So you’re doing a great job parenting your inner child!
No. His skills are more you can say face to face. And In email he’s not able to put up with well pointed like me.
Great! Glad you can manage it so well!
Because all person’s situations are scenarios are different and that’s why trying different things and implementation that’s what also gives you the confidence for that work you’re doing or the goal you’re going towards
Yes, I need to try it and see what works and what doesn’t… for me.
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