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KellyParticipant
““What other people think about you is none of your business.” It’s their deal. Be you.
KellyParticipantI agree, Hyo. A sharp knife cuts cleanest. In my case, I’ve generally felt it’s important to put significant distance between me and my exes (in most cases, no contact at all). I have reconnected after several years with an old flame and we are now friends, but it’s an exception for me. I don’t think it’s fair to judge anyone for the way they choose to end a relationship and heal.
KellyParticipant“I’ve tried to break up with my partner three times, and all times unsuccessful. Why? Because I can never find the right words to say.”
There is no perfect thing to say to end a relationship, and if you say the “right” words you’re given permission to leave but if you don’t, then you have to stay. That’s not how it works. Maybe you feel it’s unfair to your partner to leave the relationship without explaining it fully. I respect that about you. But at the same time, you are not doing him any favors by staying out of obligation or guilt. Set him free to be available for someone whose heart and soul wants to be with him. Sometimes these things can’t be put into words, you just feel it in your gut. Trust your feelings.
On the other hand, to play devil’s advocate, are you sure you want to leave? It’s never easy, but are you allowing yourself to stay because you have some unsettled feelings? If you’re sure you want to go, then it’s going to be difficult but I would advise you to be true to yourself.
KellyParticipantOh dear. I would argue that those women’s boyfriends are better off without them if that’s the way they behave. Sounds like justification for poor behavior/blame shifting. If you don’t feel safe or confident to ask your partner for what you want or need, you’re either in the wrong relationship or you need to do some work on self-esteem before you even enter into a relationship. I don’t think being open and honest are characteristics of an “ideal world”, it’s mature adult life. I appreciate the example of the “big bum” question, but I think there’s a world of difference between fishing for a compliment and cheating on a partner because you neglected to speak up for yourself. Your friends should have the decency to end the relationship if they’re not satisfied and then they’ll be free to be with whomever they wish. I don’t see any reason to believe from Ben’s post that his girlfriend is one of these manipulative types of women; in fact, she handled it quite respectfully by saying she would watch her behavior around the other man.
That said, I think your advice to consider other perspectives is always healthy. This situation might warrant a follow up conversation to make sure the girlfriend feels happy and her needs are being met in the relationship.
KellyParticipantAce,
I can see how this whole situation is plaguing you and I feel very much for your situation. You are distressed. I urge you to call a crisis hotline if you are sincerely contemplating suicide. As far as the dog situation, I would try not to focus on who is “right” and instead look to solutions. Placing blame won’t help you or the dogs. Perhaps you are feeling overwhelmed by the prospect of continuing to take care of the dogs. That is understandable but please only consider euthanasia as a last resort if these dogs are healthy. There are many families who would love taking a dog into their family. Post an ad or contact a local no-kill shelter. You have options.KellyParticipantHi Network, I can relate somewhat as I am a single 34 year old woman (turning 35 next month). The majority of my friends are married/coupled with children. I sometimes have moments where I feel lost or like an outsider, but I’ve come to a point in my life where I enjoy the pleasure of my own company. I also have a dog, who is a great companion. I used to get upset about the fact that I felt I was the one making most of the effort in my friendships as far as making plans, initiating calls, etc. but now I look at it almost as a blessing – I get to live life on my terms. If I want a day to myself hiking with my dog, that’s what I’ll do. If I want to be social, I’ll invite a friend along. If the friend has other commitments, well, that’s fine, because I know I can have a nice day all on my own.
I hope you do not truly believe you have nothing to offer in conversation. Partners, kids, family are all great topics of discussion, but they’re not the only topics. What hobbies do you have? What do you enjoy doing? Who are your favorite bands? What movies do you like? Current events in the news, and so on. All wonderful things to discuss.
I think when you get to a point where you can be happy just being you, you will attract other happy people into your life. It’s a daily practice to find happiness wherever we can. I feel for you and hope that you can take some time to reflect on what you are grateful for in your life. I think you will find there is much to be happy about.
KellyParticipantI’m not sure what kind of feedback you’re looking for. You said you’re done with him, and “NEVER IN LIFE” want to be with him again……….. so……… are you looking for help moving on? This reads like a rant. It’s great to get things off your chest, but I don’t understand what your question is, or if you even have one.
KellyParticipantForgiveness is a choice. Can you try to make a different choice tomorrow? Every morning we get a new chance. Moving on is not easy, but there’s only one person who is going to be there with you every step of that way: ainka. Love yourself, you deserve it.
KellyParticipantLenne, I too was moved by your post. I think The Ruminant gives you great advice. I’d encourage your “start” to be talking….. surely you talk in your day to day life. How about speaking the lyrics to your favorite songs? Maybe even without the music – start by simply reading the lyrics off a sheet of paper. Then maybe add the music but continue to merely “speak” the words. You could also try humming along until you feel the courage to really belt out the tune with abandon. I am shy about singing in front of other people – I don’t even like to sing “Happy Birthday” at parties and will sometimes lip synch when I feel uncomfortable. But when I’m alone in my car, I’ll turn up my favorite music and sing along. Like The Ruminant says, maybe you could find a safe place and start small.
I can relate to your mother issues as well :/
March 2, 2014 at 1:06 pm in reply to: Advice sought: married but never expected my spouse's non-existent past #52086KellyParticipantOh Keith, I am so sorry to hear this. It must be devastating to find all this out. I would feel horribly deceived and hopeless. What do you want? If you’re able to get past the deception, can Joe give you what you need? I’m sorry I have no concrete advice for you. Perhaps you could try another counselor, since you had a poor experience with the one you saw?
February 28, 2014 at 12:20 pm in reply to: Guilty that I feel good when I see people act reckless #52022KellyParticipantAnne,
Schadenfraude is a common, even universal experience and I admit to being guilty of it myself. I think your conflict of feeling guilt afterward speaks to your level of self-esteem. Someone less enlightened than you would have the good feelings without the bad ones following, in my opinion.
I experience a similar thing when I feel pity towards others. For example, I am having a tough time moving on from the breakup of my romantic relationship. I am still connected with my ex on Facebook. Within the last few days, I have seen him “friend” a number of women half his age who are in various stages of undress or provocative poses. It turns my stomach to an extent, but then the feeling turns into pity, that although I have spent some nights full of tears at home on my couch with my dog, at least I’m not out there trying to fill a void with people young enough to be my children. But then that pity for him turns into a disapproval of myself because who I am to feel “superior”? We all need to heal, and live in our own way. There should be no value judgment on how anybody chooses to live his own life.
I’m not sure what to recommend other than to say don’t beat yourself up too much over feelings that to me, are fairly benign. Work on being the best Anne you can be and take pleasure in whatever makes you happy. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. There are no thought police. As long as your behavior is loving and accepting, I think you get a free pass to chuckle at whatever entertains you.
KellyParticipantClaire,
I am sorry you are hurting. I understand pain and the cycles that we go through in dysfunctional relationships.I am going to be honest. As someone who does not know you or your boyfriend, take this for what it’s worth: I think your letter was very judgemental and reads as though you are full of anger and resentment. If that’s the case, you are entitled to those feelings and you have your reasons for feeling that way, no doubt. “You’re the one who…” (judgement). You tell him he feels resentment for you, but claim you have none toward him. You tell him to get counseling, you “warn” him of the physical toll his stress will bring him. You mention your “real feelings” (implying his feelings aren’t real?) The tone does not convey the “unconditional love” you say you have for him. It comes across as an attack. You have every right to attack if you feel so inclined but you might consider taking a look inward and ask yourself honestly, “Am I angry? Am I resentful?” If you feel this way about this person, why do you want to be with him? What good is he bringing to your life? It sounds awful. I’m not surprised his reaction was to “try a different approach” and take a step away from the relationship. I wouldn’t know how to respond to those words either, whether they’re all true or completely off base. They don’t read as a call for help or a desire to work on the relationship. Quite frankly, they read as one big final F You. What kind of response were you hoping for? An apology? I think his response was civil and reasonable. But again, this is just a stranger’s two cents worth.
I think it’s unfortunate that your takeaway from him cutting contact is “I’m not good enough” and feeling rejected. Do you think it’s possible you’re projecting some of your own insecurities onto him? That you’re looking for him to be the villian so that you can continue in this victim role?
I realize my words are not very kind or loving and I’m sorry for that. Believe me when I say that I am asking you to consider a different perspective because I care about you as someone who is hurting. What can you do to heal yourself? Why are you looking for him to heal you?
Take some deep breaths and realize that your worth is not wrapped up in what he does, says or feels. Your feelings of self-worth come from within.
KellyParticipantSimone,
I can sympathize with Mark’s experience of a relationship ending without knowing what was bothering a partner until it was “too late”. Don’t let it fester. I think it’s wise to evaluate your core values and “must haves” in a relationship. It sounds like fitness and health is very important to you, while it is relatively unimportant to your partner. Is this a deal breaker? In my experience, all the gentle nudging in the world might not yield the results you’d like if he doesn’t want to improve for his own reasons. A quote from a fun novel to ponder: “If you really love someone, you have to be prepared to accept them as they are. Maybe you hope that one day they get a wake-up call and make the changes for their own reasons.” (The Rosie Project) If he doesn’t change, are you ok with this? This may be a pessimistic view, but I find that people don’t typically change who they are very much, particularly after a certain age. There is nothing “shallow” in my mind about it, because it is important to you. You should never feel like you’re “stressing out and going crazy” in a relationship. It may turn out that the two of you are not compatible. But I think you owe it to both of you and your relationship to explore it further by having a conversation with him.
Nobody should pressure you to drink more when you have set a limit for yourself. That’s pretty inconsiderate if you ask me. I don’t know if it was done in jest, but in any case it would be nice if he was more supportive of you and your choices. I think people generally egg others on to drink more when they want to excuse their own sometimes overindulgent behavior. But that’s just my two cents worth.
I am a very direct person in my relationships so I’d offer one warning: depending on how direct you are, he may respond in a defensive manner. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down 😉
February 27, 2014 at 11:47 am in reply to: Looking for myself and being okay after a break up #51925KellyParticipantHugs to you, lovinggirl. I understand the pain of loss and the fear of the unknown. You are a strong, independent woman and you can handle this! What would going back to him give you, more of the same? You deserve more and you know it. Like Mark said, we don’t have a crystal ball and can’t tell you without a doubt you will “find someone else”, but I’d encourage you to wrap loving arms around yourself and find YOU again. There is no loneliness worse than being lonely within a relationship, if you ask me. Each day is a new beginning for you and your son to embrace. Spoil yourself with a hot bath, a massage, a good run, a movie or book, whatever it is that makes you happy. It will get easier, that I can confidently promise.
Mark, I love that quote and had it as my Facebook profile photo for awhile without knowing where it was from. I added the movie to my Netflix queue now 🙂
KellyParticipantWill gives very good advice. I agree, especially the last paragraph: You will be ok no matter what. Try not to look at this as you being on trial and you are awaiting the judge to return from chambers with a verdict. Take this time apart to not only look at your own behaviors in the relationship but to also evaluate what it is you want and need from a partner. I have been in your position and when I was there, I was in a panic, just wanting him to be with me, kicking myself for all the things I did wrong, saying “if only” I had done this or that, or not done this or that and in the end all I was doing was torturing myself. If you recognize behaviors in yourself that you want to change or improve upon, that’s great. But I’d encourage you to also consider that you have every right to feel your feelings and to express them when things don’t feel right, like for example him wanting to rekindle a friendship with someone he was previously romantically involved. That would make me uncomfortable as well. What I’m trying to say is that it’s wonderful you want to work on your self-esteem so that you can be more secure in your relationship(s), don’t take on more of this burden than necessary. I don’t know that it’s “80%” your fault. You’re both in this relationship and you both need to work together to find peace and happiness within that relationship.
Value yourself, with or without him.
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