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May 17, 2021 at 11:51 am #380000AnonymousGuest
Dear Javier:
You are welcome. I hope you enjoy The Art of Happiness. Here is one of the many quotes that I like from the book: “Happiness comes not with getting what we want but by learning to be content with what we have. Be happy with the things that you already have. Learn to want the things you have”.
anita
May 17, 2021 at 11:56 pm #380021JavierParticipantI realized that one of the main reasons for my depression is my bad habit of comparing my life with others. I must avoid mindlessly scrolling through social media feeds as much as possible. I envy everyone, especially those with kids. I feed my mind with negative thoughts and it’s getting worse. Every morning is a battle.
May 18, 2021 at 1:24 am #380022TeeParticipantDear Javier,
you’re welcome, and I’m glad you liked Ave Maria and added it to your iPod. It seems listening to sermons and audiobooks was your way to soothe yourself in this past year, since having been hit with illness and unemployment. These new, unwanted life circumstances probably pushed you back to your childhood and activated the old survival trauma, that you experienced as a child. Covid was a trigger but it could be that the symptoms persist because of that trauma, which is stored in your nervous system.
I’ve found a text about children who witnessed domestic violence. It says “when children witness violence, it heightens their arousal system while causing their soothing systems to be underdeveloped.” You as a baby witnessed violence that your father inflicted upon your mother, and later you were a victim of your father’s abuse yourself.
Your autonomic nervous system is in a constant state of arousal and hyper-vigilance. That’s because its sympathetic branch (the one responsible for action and fight-or-flight responses) works non-stop, in overdrive. While the parasympathetic branch (which is responsible for resting and digesting) is underused and underdeveloped.
In that same article, music is suggested as a soothing activity, so I think listening to soothing music and lullabies should help. Sermons and audiobooks probably have a similar effect on you – it’s almost like an adult reading a good-night story to a child, with a calm, comforting voice. Do you feel this could be why you like it so much?
So it seems you’ve already being soothing yourself to the best of your ability, and now you just need to expand it and do it more consciously and intentionally. This is your inner child that you’re soothing and helping him develop the parasympathetic branch of the nervous system. I believe it would also help to visualize a safe, calm atmosphere, like being held in mother’s arms (if not your own mother’s arms, then in Divine Mother’s arms). Do you think you would be up for such a visualization?
And lastly, you’re right – comparing yourself with others is a recipe for disaster. We all have a unique life story and a unique task in this world. It’s completely fruitless to compare ourselves with others. Our goal is to focus on ourselves and our own growth and healing, and living more and more from our true self.
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May 18, 2021 at 9:06 am #380031JavierParticipantDear TeaK,
Yes, that’s correct. The sermons and audiobooks, especially those with comforting voice, gives me inner peace and calms me. Maybe, since I never had a father figure in my life, I look to these for guidance and knowledge.
I have mixed feelings at the moment. At one moment, I feel there is hope and I can heal myself and relieve the pain. But the very next moment, everything looks grim and literally the end of the road. Will the pain ever go away? or will it get worse? I don’t have any strength left, I feel like a “lost” case.
May 18, 2021 at 9:58 am #380033TeeParticipantDear Javier,
sermons and audiobooks probably serve a double purpose for you – they calm your nervous system down, and they also give you guidance and inspiration. You had neither during your childhood – neither peace and calm, nor a good role model to give you guidance.
At one moment, I feel there is hope and I can heal myself and relieve the pain. But the very next moment, everything looks grim and literally the end of the road.
Right. You might be able to help yourself to a point, by soothing and comforting yourself, but it’s probably not enough. Probably you’d need a therapist, and best would be somatic therapy, which Katie suggested earlier.
You said you had a bad experience with therapy. Could it be because the therapist didn’t help you calm down your nervous system? If if twas CBT, it would have been quite rational, working with the mind, but not on the body level, which you very much need. If you’d work with a somatic therapist, you could avoid this trap.
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May 18, 2021 at 10:27 pm #380072JavierParticipantTeaK,
It was CBT. I know the therapist was doing everything to help me, but just addressing my old “wounds” made me more depressed. I know there aren’t any magic pills or any “quick fix” but there was no effort done to “soothe” the pain either. At least the therapist should have given me some alternatives to how to cope with my anxiety attacks or give me some breathing exercises. I wake up every morning depressed and “out of my mind”. I can’t take it anymore.
May 18, 2021 at 11:23 pm #380073TeeParticipantDear Javier,
it appears the therapist wasn’t really equipped to help you, and didn’t recognize that you need calming of the nervous system, not just talking about the past trauma, which was re-traumatizing for you.
I wake up every morning depressed and “out of my mind”. I can’t take it anymore. Will the pain ever go away? or will it get worse?
When we’re stuck in trauma, we’re stuck in time, in that old painful reality. This is now exacerbated by you experiencing physical symptoms and living in the same home where the abuse happened. You felt hopeless as a child, you feel hopeless now. Only now, as an adult, you can help yourself. I’d suggest seeking a qualified, somatic therapist, who can help you slowly but surely move out of that stuck, traumatized place, into a new reality. A reality with less pain and more options for yourself.
In somatic therapy the therapist works both with your body and your mind to give the old trauma a new ending, to re-write the imprint in your mind that you’re helpless. I’d strongly recommend something like that, if it’s available to you.
May 19, 2021 at 6:46 am #380077JavierParticipantTeaK,
I’m checking somatic therapy now. I have tried traditional therapy without any results, hence I have nothing to lose.
I have so many fears and every day they intensify immensely. I lack the feeling of belonging, I feel isolated and cut off from the rest of the world. I have this feeling or misconception that all my relationships are/were superficial. I know it’s not true, but in my mind, that’s a reality. This morning, I had another fear creeping in my mind. What if I manage to get a little bit healthier and maybe if I manage to conquer my fears and beat the depression. Will I regret and hate myself for all the time I lost being depressed?! I think it’s in my DNA to always find something to nag about, the glass is always empty. I need to break this habit and retire the depression once for all.
TeaK, you seem to be a reflected and intelligent person. Can I ask about how you manage to conquer your fear and battles?
Do you have any relapses or “flashbacks”? Do you have rainy days? And if so, how do you reset your mind? Are you happy and full of life?
I apologize in advance for being too nosy.
May 19, 2021 at 6:57 am #380078JavierParticipantAnd, Do you think my longing and regretting not having kids is due to something else? Is there any other”hidden” deeper reason for this hurting?
May 19, 2021 at 7:24 am #380079TeeParticipantDear Javier,
I am glad you’re looking into somatic therapy – it should be able to help. Wish you too find a good match!
Thank you for your kind words, Javier. I am by nature a very anxious person, have been suffering from separation anxiety all my life (I think it has to do with the fact that I was left at my granny’s when I was about 1.5 years old and stayed there for 9 months, with only a few visits by my parents during that time). I’ve also suffered from low self-esteem and feeling not good enough. By working on myself, alone and in therapy, for many years, I’ve managed to mostly conquer my shame and develop a healthy sense of self-worth.
With fear, it’s trickier, and specially covid was a big trigger for me, because my husband has a chronic lung condition and was in a greater danger… the last year, in fact all the way till the vaccination it was very stressful. Now it’s better in that aspect. But there’s always something to worry about – I easily get into the mindset of worrying. I need to consciously remind myself that things aren’t that bad as I imagine them to be. And I pray to God. But there are still challenges in my life, mostly health challenges, which often want to take away my happiness. I need to focus on the present moment and on the things that are good, not on those that aren’t working.
I am not super happy and full of life, exactly because of those health challenges. But I am pushing ahead, trying to do things I love doing, still managing to enjoy many things in life. There’s no other way, because otherwise I could descend into depression by focusing on what’s not working. The greatest point of strength for me is to know that I am not helpless (I used to feel helpless before starting to work on myself – it was my inner child who felt helpless). There’s always something I can do to help myself, to get unstuck.
I think that’s probably the greatest gains of therapy – to free yourself from the sense of helplessness and pitying yourself. To know that you’re an active subject in your life, not a passive bystander and a victim. You sometimes fall, you feel awful and sad, but then in the next moment, or the next day, you pick yourself up and keep going… you don’t stay on the ground, in the dust…
Anyway, this is what comes to mind so far… does it answer your questions?
May 19, 2021 at 7:49 am #380080TeeParticipantDear Javier,
Do you think my longing and regretting not having kids is due to something else? Is there any other”hidden” deeper reason for this hurting?
it could be that you wanted to have children, so you can give them what you didn’t have as a child. You’ve also dreamed of being a grandfather, maybe because grandfather meant a sense of security for you (an imagined sense of security – since your grandparents weren’t alive any more). Children being watched over by their grandfather – not father – could have been a particularly powerful image for you – an image that emanates happiness and security. I’ve already mentioned this is one of my earlier posts – don’t know if it resonates with you?
May 19, 2021 at 9:12 am #380081JavierParticipantTeaK,
It was sad to hear about your separation anxiety and battle with low self-esteem. Sometimes, life throws us curveballs, sometimes we hit, sometimes we miss. The most important thing is to take a swing every time (my mentor used to tell me that all the time). I hope and pray for your husband’s health. The most important thing is to keep a good spirit and faith and cherish every moment.
I’m sleep walking through life, and I will and want to do every thing to “wake up” and start living. Reading your story and absorbing all the positive vibes and positive words on this forum gives me hope. I wish I had the courage to reach out earlier. I need all the help I can get.
I agree with you- I wanted to kids so bad, I wanted to be the father I never had. To be their rock, be their safety-net, be their guiding star. As I have two nieces, I try to channel all my love to them. It’s not easy, because I’m not healthy, mentally and physically. And my mind and health is deteriorating slowly. I don’t want to be focus of attention, so I don’t visit them, and don’t spend any time with them.
May 19, 2021 at 10:54 am #380086TeeParticipantDear Javier,
thank you for wishing good health to my husband. I hope that vaccine will be efficient and keep at bay potential new variants as well.
I’m sleep walking through life, and I will and want to do every thing to “wake up” and start living.
I’m so glad you have the intention and the desire to start living. You’ve been sleep walking because you’ve been running away from pain, and no wonder, because you had a very traumatic childhood. Please don’t blame yourself. Most of us keep running away till we’re forced to face it – by some crisis, like it happened to you. It’s in human nature. But now is the chance to face it – to face the pain, understand it and heal it — and move forward. That’s the silver lining of each crisis…
I root for you to keep walking on that path. It might be uncomfortable at times, but it’s extremely rewarding to find your true self, to live fully… It seems you’re already making the first steps, Javier, and that’s really beautiful.
May 20, 2021 at 9:53 am #380121JavierParticipantToday, I’m really struggling. I’m having a really rough and awful day.
Woke up emotionally numb, empty, and lost. I felt disconnected from my body. I woke up early(3 AM) gasping for air, felt like I was choking. I wanted to scream out loud for help but had no voice. I wanted to cry, but I was empty of tears. It took me 2hours to get out of my bed. I managed to get out of the apartment, to get some fresh air- I managed to build some strengths to walk. I walked for a while and looked to the top of the local hill. The hill is known as the “suicide spot”. As it’s quite steep, and I had no strengths and no motivation, I just stood there for at least 3 hours. I cried and screamed my heart out. Maybe as a desperate attempt to escape suffering that has become unbearable. After a while, I came to my senses. I walked back home. I’m lost, feeling emotionally and physically exhausted.
I have been thinking about my life. What to do with my life, how to cope with my emptiness, how to cope with my depression, how to fix the “unfixable”. I have lost my smile, I don’t see any “happy” ending.
I know I shouldn’t post this, and these “self-harming” thoughts should be directed to a mental health professional. But, I’m scared they will put me on a suicide watch. I’m afraid I have Bipolar Disorder or severe Borderline Personality Disorder.
May 20, 2021 at 10:10 am #380122AnonymousGuestDear Javier:
The good news is that today you had the strength to (1) walk to a “quite steep” hill, (2) climb it all the way to the top, and then (3) “stand there for at least 3 hours” before returning home. Congratulations for accomplishing this physical exercise and endurance!
“I’m afraid I have Bipolar Disorder or severe Borderline Personality Disorder”- if you do get diagnosed with any of these two diagnoses, it can mean something very positive for you: to finally receive a correct diagnosis and the appropriate treatment. I hope you do see a medical doctor as soon as possible!
anita
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