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July 2, 2019 at 1:08 pm #301837Cali ChicaParticipant
Dear Anita,
Excuse any typos I am doing a voice text here because I want to report back to you before I forgot the immediate results of my most recent and unique experiment in a long time.
I have told you many times about the lady at work, the lady physician who is very aggressive and rude, but has a side that is very charming and engaging. And that way she’s not unlike my mother, you could have 99% amazing fun happy experiences, but when push comes to show of and that 1% she will throw you under the busAnd find a way to manipulate you to make it think it’s your fault. These are the true dangerous people, the ones that are very good at hiding their evil. I now know her quite easily and I do not trust her.
Anyway, about a week ago we had a disagreement about how to approach a patient. This is fine it happens quite often, it is not new. Medicine requires a teamwork approach in these sort of scenarios.
She quickly went to passive aggressive behavior, bullying techniques, and used verbiage that was quite demeaning. It was as though the mother was speaking to her child and parading her coming from a sense of power. It was not like to professional speaking to one another.
Given this, I became very upset, I thought about speaking to the medical director about not working with her any further, but along the same time there were other things going on with my husband that you know about. It was difficult for me to not take the stress of working with her home, but luckily she only works at the center one and a half days per week. As you know however it’s not only about the time that you spend with these type of people, the emotional trauma can carry over into the next day. It can carry over into the evening far after this person is gone. Especially given the history that I have and people like us, we can be emotionally sensitized to any kind of negative or abusive behavior.
After everything that happened with my husband, on Friday, it occurred to me that perhaps being able to work every single day, and often with people like her, and also be very good at healing may not actually work out. In fact it — Maybe to the detriment of my own personal life, and what is more important?
I let that thought pass as you know, I regain composure and was able to approach my personal life with focus, as you saw from Friday evening forward. And here we are today.
So today I knew I was going to work with her from about 1-4 pm (just finished). In the grand scheme of things it is only three hours, three hours in a week, no big deal. But recently, because I put so much effort into doing as great of a job as I can, it is very difficult to be around any sort of negative energy like this, it is very difficult to brush it off, or let it go. I have judged myself tremendously for this, feeling angry at myself that I hold onto things, and useless people that really shouldn’t affect my personal life. I now I’m gentle with myself knowing that I am only human.
So of course I want to approach a patient around 1 PM, just like clockwork this patient had some things in their history missing, and vital piece of information that I should have known by now. If it was any other colleague of mine I would have sent them a text message or phone call and discussed with Them on the phone or in person. However I did not do this. I quickly gathered all the information I needed to on my own, I wanted to communicate with the mean lady. My colleague said why don’t you just wait for her to arrive you can discuss together. I said, yes that would be possible if this was a reasonable person, it is not. I’m going to approach this in the way that allows me the most peace.
By the time she arrived, which was of course late, I had all of the information I needed, and was happy to proceed with this patient. When she arrived, I didn’t waste time with any niceties – I directly approached her with what was missing and the patient history and what I have found. She did not say thank you of course, she quickly made up excuses of why those things were missing, and made sure to “let me know that they were actually not very important.”
I did nothing Anita. I said nothing. I am there as a physician, I Am not there to engage with unreasonable people. And I want you to know, that for the next three hours when I worked with this woman, I was absolutely silent. Absolutely. I have never been silent for this long in a room with another physician and Tech a nurse etc. while doing procedures. Never. In fact it’s quite awkward. But I didn’t let that discomfort affect me. She continued to make small talk and conversation with the other staff, and you could tell that she also wanted to engage with me. I had made up my mind. You don’t get to have fun easy small talk with me, and then also treat me like crap and disrespect me at the drop of a hat when it’s coming up to you know. I do not want to engage with you and I won’t. I have never been able to accomplish so much silence in my life. I focused on the patient, I focused on what I would be writing to you after I was done with work. I had so much peace but also so much discomfort. I did not feel the need or urge to talk, I observed that if I was talking during that time it was just nervous energy to break the ice. Nonsense useless.
Now I’m not saying that being completely silent and not engaging with others is the cure to most problems. Of course not. But in this scenario this woman needs to know that she can’t just act however she wants – and the other party doesn’t want to play her games. That other party is me.
This was only something I learned exactly in that moment of discomfort. I could have went left, and continued my fun natural way of being easy-going, but of course quickly disrespected again the next time.
Or I could’ve went right and thought, this is not a friend, this is not a good person, this is not someone I trust. I am not going to waste my breath on her.
So I didn’t. I am powerful and in control of my own self. In the moments of most distress, I can stand strong and still.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 4 months ago by Cali Chica.
July 2, 2019 at 2:08 pm #301853AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
I thought it had to do with this woman and it did. Excellent job! I loved reading this: “You don’t get to have fun easy small talk with me, and then also treat me like crap and disrespect me at the drop of a hat”!
I like the assertion, the affecting of some consequence to her behavior or more accurately, misbehavior. She gets some rejection in return to her disrespect.
“I have never been able to accomplish so much silence in my life”- well you did today, July 2, 2019.
A delight to read your experiment of today!
anita
July 6, 2019 at 7:43 am #302155Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
thank you for that compliment. I did accomplish something great that day – as a first time experiment.
Yesterday not so much. I had a huge setback. In short it had to do with my husband’s friend and his wife coming over. I won’t get into all the background but – thesis is that he is a nice person at baseline but has married a horrific woman. Controlling, strange, passive aggressive and most importantly- bad energy.
This energy made me act strange and so later on my husband (having background built up resentment towards me which you know about and beyond) started feeling irritated at me for my behavior.
I quickly concluded that all of the problems had to do with having the exact opposite people in our home than we needed. He realized he made a mistake in inviting them, but I had made plenty such “mistakes” of not focusing on right priority. He is right. I was angered by the fact that he was annoyed at my behavior when in reality i know my limits. I am a healing human and I don’t want to be put up to challenges of being around terrible people. Perhaps like my (dramatic) cancer analogy – I need to heal and protect myself from any toxins.
Anyway – it become a huge ordeal after they left. The holiday was not relaxing at all and it’s the last thing we needed. It sent me into a huge fury. I found myself angry at so many things and people. At that girl N the glitter friend who continues to send emails and texts “making sure I’m okay.” When I clearly deleted her out of my life because she is a huge flake and i had given her one last chance months ago when she flaked.
This friend D who I actually introduced to N – those two are fast friends now. D didn’t have the decency to even give us a wedding present after being a huge part of all of our events and being catered to as close friends (it’s not about the money or present it’s the respect courtesy etc). I’ve helped her endlessly with her relationship and subsequent breakup and when I moved back to nyc it was a few blocks away from her- no effort to ever visit.
All the same I felt. Enraged. How dare she not even give us a gift. Out of 450 gifts the only person. How disgusting I felt. I felt enraged like I used to last year or before I went no contact with parents
the annoyance between my husband and I subsided because we once again realized and re minded ourselves that we can’t let other people get in the way of what we need the most – quality time together to heal and focus on the main goal – our team. We also talked a lot about the progress I made over the last week with you
I felt angry as I felt I had undone so much of it, it felt like a huge huge step back. From just last weekend!
i felt angry and angry and before I went to sleep I sent an angry email. I had not seen D for months or spoken to her – her now ex boyfriend is actually my husband’s Med school friend – that’s how I know her – they met around the same time my husband and I did.
they broke up a few months ago – both of them being quite flakey- neither of them keeping in touch with us – during our wedding we had given them a lot of respect being in our bridal party – we had a huge wedding party and provided them all gifts and clothes from India and made it so they felt like they had a wonderful experience , which they all did. Of course this was my decision and I wasn’t forced into it. But it made me so angry last night to exert this sort of courtesy and respect to people who – see – didn’t deserve it at all! Stupid people who don’t have the decency to remain in touch or even bring a gift or card (once again not about money but about being a decent human)
once again a reminder of the idiocy of focusing on these others!
so I sent an email to D. It was passive aggressive – it was something like this-
hey D! Long time no talk – hope you’re having a great summer . I was finalizing my wedding spreadsheets and saw your present was missing. It was the only one in the entirety of all the guests – I surely hope it didn’t go missing.
Well I actually was going to send you a Venmo (like PayPal) request for some of the bridesmaids related expenses. So you can go ahead and accept that – and not worry about it!
Pretty much my email was – hey cheap shameless fake friend, i know you made excuses for a year about how you forgot to bring a present to our 4 day wedding where you were treated like family. Well enough I’m calling you out – nope that treatment wasn’t for free and those items from India selected for you weren’t. Time to pay up.
(No in reality I would never make a friend pay for any of that – it was a gift from me and no one was asked for a dime, this was anger and me feeling she didn’t deserve this! She better pay up fake stupid girl!)
I’ll write more after your reply. Sigh.
July 6, 2019 at 8:09 am #302163Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I’ll write more here due to the time difference. But please read my first post and reply to that before you read the following (If that’s ok)
So of course I do this. I don’t feel too terrible. I feel kinda silly and Petty but also at the same time – not sure. Probably best to do and say nothing like I already had. But perhaps the whirlwind of fourth of July around horrible people reminded me once again – screw these people who continue to take and take and take and take ROARRR.
So of course it backfired major. She didn’t reply to my email but quickly must have reached out to her ex BF (my husband’s friend but he’s quite flakey). He hasn’t texted my husband in months and so (I know this now not yesterday) he calls my husband yday around 8 pm out of nowhere. Missed call. Then a huge paragraph text along the lines of – oh I saw her email to D. You know we had a plan to take the two of you out to dinner as a present I hope you know that. Her email was kinda out of nowhere we were confused. Etc.
Pretty much saying – why the hell would Cali chica send that.
My husband doesn’t tell me any of this last night since we finally were able to relax after all the people left and get back to good conversation about self focus. I had not told him I had sent that email to D (thinking it was between her and I, no idea she would go tattle to her EX)
Anyway so of course ONCE AGAIN. I cause harm. Now my husband is stressed from getting this sort of message and he feels embarrassed. Why would I send such a petty email literally asking for money he says. It’s one thing to ask but another to actually send a request.
I agree. I say I didn’t think asking would do anything to a huge flake. He says – well we already know this about them. So let it be. Let it go. What did sending that do to you. Did it accomplish anything? Did it make you feel better? We already went through all this drama with those people coming over and that was my mistake – but this! Why do this?
He’s right. Anita I had a huge setback and I feel like wow – what is wrong with me!!!! I don’t war sympathy from you though. I am sharing like I always do. Just the truth as always
July 6, 2019 at 8:37 am #302167AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
I am not surprised you are angry, of course you are. Don’t judge yourself for being angry, don’t think of yourself as a bad person, or a person not on the healing path for feeling this anger. It will be a good exercise for you to express it now, past and present, anything that comes to mind, just type away, a stream of consciousness, don’t edit, don’t evaluate. If you can, do it now.
anita
July 6, 2019 at 9:22 am #302171Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
thank you. Did you read my previous 2 posts regarding anger and the email I wrote? I think you did. Here’s more.
Dear Anita,
In an effort to find some clarity and not feel so frenzied, I re read all of our posts on this new thread. In this new thread in which I have done “groundbreaking work.”
I re-read about the squirrel. I am now down on the ground again. Frenzied picking up acorns. Throwing them, picking them up again, throwing them. Not even tasting them – creating a mess. Frenzied search for something for acorns and then finding them and running off in another direction. Exhausted but wound up at the same time. Silly frenzied squirrel.
So I think about that view from above. I have experienced it. Just a glimpse recently. I am trying to channel it.
This is what comes to mind if I try to do so:
So what you sent a Hasty email, perhaps out of character and embarrassing. But so what. It’s not people in your inner circle that you respect anymore – that’s just it. You are so so so angry at yourself for not being center stage of your own life and putting people like this (D and her ex) in YOUR center stage. You and your husband both but especially you. This email was a way to say HEY! You don’t get to get away with that! You must be punished for taking energy and some priority in my.life and rushing away without appreciation or respect.
But that’s not how the world.works. It’s us fools who give too much credit to those types that are only to blame.
Sending a silly foolish petty humiliating email is useless. It’s a childish “acting out.” I feel like I am at square one again. I am trying
i see all my friends faces on balloons old friends and new good and bad I see myself throwing darts at them pop pop pop pop
July 6, 2019 at 9:43 am #302173AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
The email you sent this woman, so what if it seems petty, what difference does it make, other than your husband disapproving of it/ you- that matters. But other than that, who cares. I don’t see this email as petty or humiliating, not at all. It is just an email. Is there a person in authority who gathers all the emails you ever sent, evaluates you, then gives you a grade and the permission to live or not, according to that grade?
Not only that D doesn’t pay your bills, she didn’t even get you a wedding present. Who cares what she thinks… who is she in your life to matter to you?
You have to gather all those acorns aka friends and do a major cleanup of that mess, the mess that is your compulsive social life that you have focused on lifetime, I say.
anita
July 6, 2019 at 10:16 am #302185Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
yes. My visual of the balloons – darts going pop pop pop. Sounds like cleaning up that stupid social life doesn’t it?
will you elaborate more? What you think…
July 6, 2019 at 10:31 am #302191AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
I didn’t read thoroughly your posts regarding the email to that person, didn’t really read it because it is such a headache and unpleasant for me to read. You know I thoroughly read a whole lot of stuff, but this is too silly for me to engage in, and I think it is too silly for you to engage in as well.
This silly social life teaching presented to you by your mother is such a waste of time and resources, it is so stupid that it makes me feel a bit sick, it only takes away from you. Didn’t you want early on to just be left alone, to just sit there (you phrased it this way), to be left alone and not be rushed and frenzied by her?
anita
July 6, 2019 at 11:49 am #302199Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita ,
The email is stupid the whole thing is stupid. My squirrel frenzy today was more that I was judging and angry at myself for reacting this way and having anger.
You in your first post told me this – don’t put myself down for this anger – let it out. You gave me permission and you didn’t judge me for the email (or whatever the email symbolized) so you helped me not judge myself.
Yes I see this from above again. I was able to climb up as the squirrel did a week ago. I see that I fell down and went after all the rotten acorns. Then I got angry for even noticing the stupid acorns. Now I see that in order to release anger about acorns or the whole aspect of (over focusing on friendship and acorns) anger must be released. In any way. Embrace it.
Thanks for bringing me back to clarity. Thanks for reminding me to give myself permission.
Thats all I can say
July 6, 2019 at 11:52 am #302201Cali ChicaParticipantAlso I want to add that your post about— so what if I sent that email. Anita, no one has ever told me that in my entire life including my own self. I really needed to hear this. Thank you
July 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm #302205AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
You are welcome. I didn’t think about the email itself as stupid, but the bigger picture of the zero or negative return on investment that is in this frenzied social life, and I see it in personal experience as well. Think of your wedding itself, this huge social event that you didn’t enjoy- the massive amount of time and money that went into it, wasn’t it a big waste, given you didn’t enjoy the event? So the lack of gift from this D is just one very tiny event within the whole costly event.
In general, pay attention to what you invest your time and resources on, that it is not in nonsensical social busy-ness, just spinning the wheels for nothing.
I will be back tomorrow morning. Glad you are feeling better, being above, you are doing well !!!
anita
July 6, 2019 at 1:42 pm #302215Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
thank you for your reply and patience with me as I unraveled my frenzy, and was able to see it clearly. I saw it as a jar of marbles being tipped over, all the marbles scrambling around, boisterous and frenzied.
And as I was able to see the whole scenario piece by piece – I picked up a few marbles and looked at them and fixated on each one. The colors the variables – looking closely – so closely getting a headache, tunnel vision on this intricate marble.
Then taking a step back and seeing those 2 marbles I fixated on – thrown in the frenzy of all of these scattered marbles all over the table and now the floor.
To hell with those 2 silly marbles – look at this floor! A mess! A mess of messy marbles – superficial pieces of glass that just leads to spilled frenzy
July 7, 2019 at 8:42 am #302243Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I noticed a benefit of seeing squirrel life from below and above. That once you get a glimpse from above – you know you are capable of climbing there – and so hopefully (like this time) you can more quickly jump back up there.
Versus an unknown ambiguous goal of reaching above.
I thought about how the frenzied bobble head bird and the squirrel both spin the wheels but get nowhere. I also thought about how beyond the mother voice – on some days there’s distress and anger, some of which may be just one layer of repressed emotion. Just one – peeling away.
It can be ugly and strange the way it’s released. But who said the path isn’t windy?
I am working on today, thinking about differentiating truths and lies. I do believe this will further my work of releasing anger at My mother that is often redirected everywhere else.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 4 months ago by Cali Chica.
July 7, 2019 at 8:43 am #302245AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
You come up with amazing imageries, excellent marbles imagery, the stepping back and seeing the two marbles you fixated on within the whole of the “mess of messy marbles”, amazingly creative and intelligent.
The most difficult work in this process is not the intellectual understanding of how things came about, that interesting aha moments of understanding from before. The most difficult work is the practical calming of the frenzy in each moment the frenzy takes place.
This calming of the moments of frenzy, a calming made possible by those intellectual understanding from before (and more to come) is essential to the process. If it doesn’t happen then all the work done is an intellectual exercise, interesting, fascinating but limited to an intellectual exercise.
anita
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