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  • #307745
    Michelle
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    Yeah! Huge congrats on the high merit passing – that’s awesome. Well done you!Ā  I love your therapist’s idea about the volunteering too – it just sounds like something you’d get so much out of and so would others. Plus you’d get a really unusual portfolio which will give you an edge for possible future work. You know, it’s so amazing how often this kind of thing happens, when you close one door ( as in your old job ) new ones open up that lead you to better places. Who knows where it could go but I see nothing but good from looking into that for sure.Ā  As we’ve always said, your life won’t change unless you change it – this is a really cool example šŸ™‚

    And hey, you know I’m on the ball šŸ˜‰Ā  Mostly!Ā  But a big daft hug for you anyway – you know it doesn’t matter if I or anyone else am disappointed in you, it’s what you think about yourself that’s important. It’s letting yourself down, that’s when it hurts.Ā  It’s not that I won’t advise on the situation with the ex, I know it’s still a huge part of what you are dealing with and I’m happy to help you continue to move forwards. But what I felt wasn’t helping you at that point in this post was to continue to indulge the sadness, the sense of trappedness, if that makes sense. I knew you had choices and I knew you had the strength for it. And although I also knew you wouldn’t like it, same way I really didn’t like it when it happened to me, we all need people who can occasionally do the whole gentle shove thing as well as the tissue mopping.

    You will not be surprised to hear I entirely get the whole travel in the gut, dreamer thing. One of my favourite things growing up was my globe and maps, absolutely fascinated by all those other places.Ā  I think it’s one of those things that either calls you or not…it’s actually really nice to hear you being able to at least hear that gut voice again.Ā  I won’t disagree, travel is different on your own. Travel with friends is also different than in a relationship. Travel on your own simply gives you something else again, perhaps not the romance/sharing memories parts but you will get that sense of pride, of reconnecting to your younger self and knowing if you can face these fears, you are good to face others. Plus an awesome tan and some brilliant memories and stories šŸ˜‰

    So, honestly, when planning it out, I’m a big fan of the ‘less is more’ philosophy.Ā  Especially if you have a limited budget ( who doesn’t?!?) then it’s usually better to leave yourself some wiggle room for the unexpected rather than push it to the limit. More relaxing for sure. Given you aren’t sure you want to be away for all that long, I’d be tempted to keep it relatively simple, book an open-jaw flight into one major airport in SE Asia, make your way down with the budget airlines/local transport and fly back from NZ/Oz. Open-jaw is just the tech term for a return that begins/ends in the same place but flies in/out of different places. Cheaper than two singles, bit more than a standard return which can be limiting. Adding in some Asia will lower your average cost a lot so say you went for Thailand, you could fly into Bangkok, make your way down to the Thai islands, from there it’s pretty easy & cheap to get to KL. You could also add in Langkawi like I’m going to do – it’s literally a Ā£30 plane ticket to the duty-free Maylasian island from there. Then you could carry on down via Bali from where Oz is a short hop. Something like that perhaps? You’d want at least three weeks to do that any kind of justice so I figure by the time you add in your Oz/NZ travel, you’d be heading back home for Christmas? So personally, I’d just fly back from there and save the US for next time. Slow travel is your friend remember – I find that anything less than 3 days in one place gets tiring really fast and doesn’t let you get to know it so usually aim for a week min. You also get a lot of discounts on AirBnb and the like for week stays.

    Hope it helps – and congrats again on the high merit, really pleased for you.

    #308175
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Morning all,

    It’s been a whirlwind few days since news started to seep out about my departure from work. Now it means I have to choose other options, no more excuses of ‘being in a job’…..options now become a possibility and that can be a little overwhelming.

    I am waiting to have a little graduation event to get my cert for my MUA course, so I’ll be so proud when I have that as I’ve kept that side of things on the down low just until I was confident I had passed etc. But now once I know I’m fully qualified, I’m proud of myself for doing it and I do hope it opens up some doors for me.

    I still think about my ex a lot. Everyday actually for most of the day. BUT while I still hold out hope he will have an epiphany, I’m notice I’m now starting to let it sink in a bit more each week that passes that that’s less of a possibility. Also, because I haven’t seen him since we split, I’m gaining a little more confidence now being out and about in the sense that I anticipate bumping into him less as it becomes less likely. So that’s the positive. But look it, I still miss him. We’ll see how it goes.

    As for travel, all I can say is, I pity the poor guy who had to deal with indecision in the travel centre I went to for advice! He spent three hours with me, he even needed a toilet break at one point! He came up with a plan for Oz & NZ for six weeks with all long-haul and internal flights and 3 nights accommodation in Singapore and day tours there for about 2,900. I was nearly ready to book but my sister said that it quite expensive and that I have to think of accommodation costs and spending money on top of that and then I realised she’s probably right. I have to be realistic! I’ve never been good at managing budgets etc!

    I originally looked at 2 weeks in SE Asia en route, but then before I ran away with myself, I had to say….ummmm Shelby….where on earth do you think you’re going to get the money for all this! I decided to leave out SE Asia this time round just because it all seemed too much and a bit overwhelming. This is my first major solo trip so I think OZ & NZ will be enough for me this time and help me build my confidence.

    Anyway, I think i will dial back the 6 weeks to 4 weeks and it might be more financially manageable. Genuinely this is a financial consideration and not a fear-based one in this circumstance, I honestly to have to realistic and I’m known for squandering money a bit. I’m a bit like a unicorn who thinks money will just magically appear out of nowhere!

    Oh, some goss….if you’re interested in that kind of thing! I got kind of asked on a date…well I don’t know it’s a date, but anyways, I’m not in the frame of mind for dating, but it was a nice little confidence booster nonetheless!

    How is your own travel planning going? I find it all so overwhelming, it must be old hat to you at this stage? I wish I was as savvy or as organised!

    I have my friend’s wedding later, so I don’t know how that will go. I might be really sad or I might enjoy it. I’m not drinking anyway, so I’ll be able to nip away at any time if I’m not in the best of form!

    #308187
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Hi ladies,

    I hope you’re both well!

    Apologies for going awol again for a few days, for some reason the recent time has been particularly hard on me again! Whilst still trying to keep my spirits up I suppose sometimes you just can’t win and just have to sit through it.

    I’ve been feeling an intense need to just cry recently and am finding it difficult as I really need some peace.. I absolutely do not want any attention from Mr A, family or friends, I simply just want to have a good old cry and perhaps that’ll release some of the excess emotions!

    It’s very disheartening when the ongoing sadness is just constantly present despite my best efforts to keep going. I’m feeling a little stuck again lately so just trying to look internally to get to the bottom of this sadness.

    Shelby, I’m so pleased to hear that you are actively looking into your travel plans now! I am so excited for you and in absolute awe of your bravery! I mean during the last year I have gone from a social butterfly to an absolute loner, by choice, and I don’t even think i’d have it in me to plan a four week trip away in foreign land by myself! So honestly, kudos to you! It look’s like i’ll be hearing from both you and Michelle soon about all the beautiful places in the world that you are exploring!

    I’m stuck in the UK unfortunately as the flights to go back home are too expensive.. There is also a part of me that feels obliged to stay behind as my younger sister is here on her own so I am making extra effort to see her every weekend so she doesn’t feel too alone! But I look forward to hearing all about your sunny adventures!

     

    #308197
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    Everything you have described sounds normal. Truly. Think about it. Look at me here, how many months later still posting that I’m incredibly sad and upset and down and some days don’t feel I can manage anything, and that’s from a breakup. YOU have been through the absolute mill and back again, I seriously can’t imagine that just like that you feel a million times better and it lasts, it’s all little steps.

    You are doing so much better that you were months ago, but that doesn’t mean that this week you are not allowed to be struggling. You absolutely flipping well are entitled to how you feel. Sometimes it’s okay, it’s okay to be sad. You are sad, something really really really hurt you last year and that leaves a mark. It won’t be sad forever but it sounds significant enough to mean it could take time, maybe a lot of time, to fully process.

    Keep doing what you have been doing for the past few months, keeping yourself going. Be sad and isolated if you need to be because you have a right to feel those feelings and then get up and keep going again when you are ready.

    I used to arrive into my therapist, tears streaming down my face disappointed with myself that i wasn’t ‘improving’, now I realise I have absolutely no clue how it works. My therapist says processing doesn’t go in a linear line like I would probably prefer, it’s more like one of those big twisting roller coasters you see in theme parks….you climb up and out and next thing you’re back down on yourself in a loop again. All normal.

    I’m sad that you’re sad though. Just like for myself, I dearly wish for you to be happy, you absolutely strike me as someone who deserves a fulfilled life of happiness. Don’t you think? So the million dollar question becomes, how do you get that? I still don’t know, I imagine it takes some time. But I’m trying! Well…I think I’m trying!

    You know me somewhat at this stage. Getting from idea stage to actual implementation takes a while with me, so I’ll believe it when I actually post from Down Under!!!!

    It’s lovely that you have your little sister still around, but remember sometimes you have to put yourself first. I’m doing that a little more lately with my family and it’s hard. The growing pains are not fun, all a bit uncomfortable if I’m honest, but deep deep down in my soul, while I feel bad, I know it’s the right thing for me. So make sure you’re doing what’s best for you, even if it feels like it will hurt someone else. Staying true to yourself is never a mistake, even if it causes pain.

    Have you any plans for this weekend or do you feel like bingeing on Netflix? I am currently at work but have a wedding after work. This should be fun. *detect sarcastic tone**!!!!

    #308205
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    You are absolutely right. I am so aware that healing isn’t a linear process and that there are certain things in life that take a looooooong while to process. Whilst rationally I know that it’s still so draining to feel in such intensity sometimes. And I am grateful for getting out of the hell hole but sometimes i’m really just like sh** I’m so god damn tired of being sad now!!!!! Meh, nonetheless we keep on keeping on!

    The plan for this weekend is most definitely bed, pj’s and Netflix. I have 0 energy for any form of socialising of any sort, I really just want some peace and quiet by myself and may even squeeze my little but extremely needed cry in there (yaaaay!). I think that’s one thing I definitely miss when living with my family, at least I could shut myself in my bedroom and have an ‘early night’ but really sit up for a few hours having a cry. Living with Mr A means that I have no space to do that now because he is just as welcome as I am in the bedroom! But I’m hopeful that he has made some plans of his own for this weekend so that I can have some breathing space.

    I also completely hear you regarding doing what’s best for you. I think feeling like I am failing friends or family members is a major thing for me (I’m aware though and working on it). Sometimes it’s almost like I feel responsible for the way others around me are feeling and do everything and anything to lift their spirits! Actually I had a situation on the day of my move. I had taken one day off of work to do as many runs to the new property as possible and try to organise as much as I could in the new place so that I could go back to work the next day. My parents were due to fly back into London that same morning around 6am and asked if I could collect them and drop them home because my little sister needed to be at school for 8:45am. Despite knowing i’ve got a hectic day ahead of me, being the person that I am I agreed. So I woke up at 5am to head to the airport and saw a message from my mum to say that their flight had been delayed and they won’t arrive in London until 2pm that afternoon. At that point I knew it would’ve been impossible for me to drop everything I’m doing with the move and go to the airport, all the way back to my family home and then all the way back to the flat, I would’ve got absolutely 0 done! But I still couldn’t find a way to say no even though it was stressing me out to say the least. I was in a full frenzy trying to get as much done as possible etc to the point that I actually broke down with my other sister in my car and she said to me ‘It is not your responsibility to take care of others! It is not your responsibility to try and make everyone happy all the time!’ and she actually had a separate word with my mum who was oblivious that I needed to be left alone as this is already too much for me.

    And it is true. Whenever someone is feeling bad I feel personally responsible for it when I shouldn’t! It’s kind of in my nature, but I am working on it.

    Ah weddings are always fun eh! (NOT!) Actually the wedding that me and Mr A went to recently captured a very sad photo of me haha!! We had been off with one another the whole day and then when we got to the wedding I was clearly upset looking at a newly wed couple and wondering just how bloody far away that bliss is for me and the look on my face in the photo!!!! Oh it said a million words!!!

    I hope you do enjoy it as best as you can! I do love your little sober escape plan though just in case! It’s always good to have options šŸ™‚

    #308329
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Morning all,

    The sadness is once again oh so prominent today. I canā€™t even describe how bloody tiring this is! Iā€™m getting to a point where I canā€™t even determine if itā€™s me, Mr A, my job, my life in general, a mixture of it all, or maybe this is just who I have become now?! I couldnā€™t even say but something isnā€™t right, there is something absolutely missing in my life and I have no clue how to even begin figuring out what to do next.

    I have an extreme urge (and one that has been present and forever returning since trauma) to just run. Run away, in the opposite direction from everything I currently call my own and just never look back. But at the same time I donā€™t think even that will bring any happiness into my life.

    I just donā€™t know.

    Shelby, how did your wedding go last night?

    #308391
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    I hear you. I really hear you. The sadness is often never-ending & it really takes no prisoners. I donā€™t know if anything more draining than sadness.

    Iā€™m glad youā€™re working on considering yourself more a bit before others, similar to myself, itā€™s a work in progress. Rome was not built in a day when it comes to that one.

    Your last post really resonates with me. I know what you mean about feeling like something is missing & wanting to run away. I feel the same. Honestly, I think something IS missing. I donā€™t think weā€™d be feeling this way otherwise. I think itā€™s a feeling deep deep down in our gut that we donā€™t know how to interpret yet. I liken it to when you have a list of things to do in your mind or you leave the house in a rush & maybe all day youā€™ll have a sense that you have forgotten something. Itā€™s an annoying feeling that you canā€™t figure out but in all circumstances, I find that I have indeed forgotten something.

    Sometimes we donā€™t need to over-analyse or complicate. You feel less that fulfilled or like youā€™re sad ā€˜cos there is something missing, then youā€™re probably unfulfilled and thereā€™s something missing. If that makes sense?! The need to run away comes from the fear perhaps of facing that or delving into what we need to.

    I dunno. I just know I know how you feel. The sadness is not always the same intensity for me, some weeks are way worse than others. Sometimes I feel sad that Iā€™m so sad!!! Iā€™m sad that Iā€™m not happy!!! Now thatā€™s just completely working myself up!

    The wedding was okay. The weather was atrocious & it was a bbq style reception outside so I froze my little pinkies off, but we got to go inside after the food so it was better then. I did feel a bit lonesome that my friends were there with husbands & wives & there I was again. Alone. It was actually remarkable that in the 4.5 years I was with my ex, he never met the friends I was with at yesterdayā€™s wedding! There are 9 of us & he only ever met one when we bumped into her in a cafe once. Now when I look back, I guess that was strange. But there were remarkably no mutual weddings or gatherings with that group in that time & I guess he wasnā€™t invested in those elements of my life.

    I was so tired today I had to come home and nap. I stayed until the end, despite not drinking, so I was proud of that. Itā€™s my dads bday tomorrow so it will be like Liverpool Street station by afternoon so Iā€™m planning out the dinner.

    Do you think you could be honest & speak to Mr A? Isnā€™t that what supportive partners do? Love & support each other through thick and thin? He might not be aware of how sad youā€™ve been, especially if you have to wait to cry until heā€™s out and about. Is there anymore or any other avenue of therapy open to you?

    #308395
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby ah itā€™s so lovely to hear from you this evening!

    Honestly today has been a whirlwind and I feel close to explosion at any moment! Itā€™s so strange but I am absolutely overwhelmed by intense anxiety, sadness but anger… rage even.

    With that in mind Iā€™ve been absolutely going off on one with ā€˜Mr Aā€™ and the saddest part, I feel absolutely no remorse! None. Zero. In fact I TOLD him not to come home because I canā€™t stand him and really do not want to see his face tonight at all.

    So I guess thatā€™s the talking thing out of the window. To be honest, I am a very open and clear individual. I say it how it is always so he is 100000000000% aware of exactly how I am feeling, how I have been feeling and why. In my perspective, itā€™s just something he chooses to ignore or as I say ā€˜plays stupidā€™ to pretend he isnā€™t aware. But I literally couldnā€™t make myself any clearer so Iā€™ve lost all will to have any sort of conversation with him at all.

    Honestly, tonight, Iā€™m over it.

    I know thatā€™ll change, I know it will. And if we really do go out separate ways itā€™s best to keep things civil until we can move out (not like tonight) BUT tonight, tonight I just cannot handle any of it. In fact there is a part of me that is yearning to get as far away as possible as soon as possible! Not just from him, from everything associated with him. The life I thought we had, the incredible love we shared, the pain he brought to my life, the trauma, how he ripped my world from under my feet.. a part of me tonight wants to erase it all because it was all a lie. On the other hand though thereā€™s the sadness. But I think we can both agree that thatā€™s just something that is kind of just there…

    Iā€™m like you in the sense that some weeks itā€™s not as intense and I can actually keep my days moving but inevitably I always end up back with the sadness.

    I think youā€™re right about something missing from our lives. I mean if something is missing, how could we really know when itā€™s clearly not something we’ve currently got?! So again, itā€™s something that needs to be explored. But I genuinely am in a place where I donā€™t know what that may be.

    I know itā€™s not very helpful but I suppose we all fall victim to social media and the constant updates etc (much like how you felt at your wedding yesterday). All of my social media is filled with friends from school etc with their husbands and their children, some going on to 2/3+ and engagements and baby showers etc and I just wonder where I went so wrong!

    All I ever wanted for myself was the normality of it all. To meet someone, fall in love, build a future together, get married, have children, live in our home together. Just the plain old boring, standard life, nothing out of the ordinary! And I just cannot comprehend why itā€™s happening to all those around me but just not me! Why? I just cannot understand it.

    Iā€™m sorry if Iā€™m ranting tonight! My mind is in absolute overdrive and Iā€™m trying to process so many emotions all at once I donā€™t quite know where to start!

    #308397
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi, ladies,

    Just a little bit of perspective to cheer you up: no one really knows how the family lives of those whom you witness being so happy getting married will turn out.

    I can very much relate to what you feel and describe. Yet, when I look around, I hardly see a couple whom I would really envy.

    For a start, my sister (11 years older than me) has been divorced twice now. It doesn’t seem that she is seeing anyone, and is totally devoted to raising her 12-year old son.

    One of my two cousins divorced. When he and his wife were getting married, everyone thought they were a perfect fit. So the divorce at the initiative of his now ex-wife came as a total surprise. Again, it was a surprise (just the way my cousin is – say, I wouldn’t want him for a partner!) that he did find somebody else and married her, too. Happy so far. Has a daughter by his first wife.

    Another cousin of mine. No one thought he would ever pair up with anyone, especially after he was dumped a second time by his long-term girlfriend. Yet, a couple of years later, he met somebody, got married and has now been married for about ten years. No kids though.

    A second cousin of mine, just like me in her mid-30s. Divorced, raising a boy.

    One of my best friends has just divorced after four years of marriage. They had dated for about three years before getting married, but towards the end of the marriage, she started feeling suffocated and promptly fell in love with somebody else leaving her husband. Has a son by her first husband, tells me she is thinking about one more kid by her current partner.

    Another best friend has never dated anyone (!), apparently has never been in love.

    One more best friend entertained some mixed feelings of love/friendship for a younger guy who died in a car accident. Still posting about him, now three or four years after the event. I am not aware of any partners proper.

    One more friend is happy in her marital life, but her husband and she are deeply religious, so I am not surprised.

    At the same time, an acquaintance’s friend, also a seemingly religious guy, got divorced and married again. And I made their acquaintance when he and his first wife were expecting their first kid (now two kids – most likely, the second one was supposed to help to cement the relationship), some ten years ago!

    I know of several more former classmates of mine who are either considering divorce or whose family lives are having such bumpy rides (and they even give birth to one more child in the hope of smoothing marital discord!) that I sincerely think I am so much better off single.

    Good question though – why do we tend to compare ourselves with those who have it rougher than we do? Why don’t we look up to those who seem to be enjoying the ride? Problem is that I truly look around and can name only two or three couples whom I would like to emulate. But they are my parents’ generation, not mine. Funny though, that one of those couples’ son has now been married for over ten years, has two sons, but thoughout all that time his wife and he have been squabbling with no end in sight. And their second child was exactly that attempt to distract them from the problems of their one-on-one interactions.

    And even though we might know such happy couples, we don’t really live with them day in and day out. So how can we really be that sure that their happy-ever-after is not just a facade for guests and friends?

    I truly don’t want to be in anybody else’s shoes. However, I would sincerely love to have that special someone to share my life with.

    #308411
    Michelle
    Participant

    Morning

    Kkasxo – sounds like you are having a tougher time of it again, a lot of thoughts piling through you and exhausting you.Ā  In some ways I guess it’s not surprising – after all, these thoughts have been there for a while but it’s only now you feel strong enough and safe enough to let them come out. So in one of those perverse ways the brain has, it’s only because of how far you have come, that you are able to feel these things. It takes courage to acknowledge that life is not how you would like it to be and that you want to change it. The easiest thing, which a lot of people do, is stick their head in the sand and hope it’ll go away or sort itself out by itself, no need for any effort from them.

    Which sounds a little ( like a lot….) like your Mr A, with his playing dumb so as not to have to deal with something he doesn’t know how to handle.Ā  You had a good history with him and you are angry he ruined it all and destroyed your trust. You need to figure out a way that you can express the anger to him and to know he has really understood you. If you don’t feel heard or validated, it won’t change, you won’t be able to let it go. It isn’t about who’s wrong or who’s right – it’s just about listening to each other and accepting that’s how you feel, even if it’s true, fair or not.Ā  I know you feel like you are done talking with him but you know, one more try won’t hurt too much – explaining beforehand that you just need him to listen and accept – he doesn’t have to solve ‘the problem’ or work out what to say. I suspect he is not playing dumb, just genuinely doesn’t have a clue what the “right” response is for you, doesn’t know what to do – especially if he was raised in a household not used to dealing with emotions in a good healthy way.

    I suspect what you feel you are missing is that emotional connection, that sense of someone knowing you inside out and still on your side. Good relationships are made, not something that just magically drops into your lap when you find that one special person, aka Disney style. I’m constantly amazed at the number of people who get married before they really know each other – it really is pretty much a bet on whether you are going to grow together or apart.Ā  Which I think is why so many fail when they don’t carry on growing together.Ā  I know you are willing and able, but it’s probably worth finding out if Mr A is or not before throwing him out with the proverbial bath water.Ā  You guys know I have a great relationship and you know this isn’t me being smug or whatever, but just able to share that it didn’t just happen, it was bloody hard work at times, learning to understand each other and ourselves.

    So either way, I know you are strong enough to deal with the outcome, even if you feel like sh*t right now. Like Shelby is doing so much better at, prioritise yourself a little too. Your family, friends etc will still love and like you even if you don’t do everything for them – it just takes a bit of trust and getting used to the idea that it’s ok. Take some time out and go scream at a tree or whatever daft thing will help release the anger, the emotions. Exercise is an awesome one too. Then try again with Mr A, acknowledge how much you are missing your family, how much pressure you feel under and how much anger. Write it in a letter to him if you think you won’t make it through without getting angry. Whatever, just don’t ignore it, it’ll only get stronger and explode out (again…) some point.

    Shelby – I did laugh at your travel agent trip – well done you! Poor guy though šŸ™‚Ā  The neck end of Ā£3k for flights and 3 nights accommodation is pretty pricey though I would agree – unless you’d gone for the business class options, then fair enough I guess. I think whatever you feel is manageable but exciting is perfect. Absolutely, if you try to cram in too much it just gets overwhelming quickly, which is kinda not the point right.Ā  My planning goes well, it helps that I both love doing it and am good with a budget šŸ˜‰Ā  I’ve learnt to look for value, not just the cheapest. Some good things are absolutely worth paying for, most are branded/hype and those I avoid.

    I’m glad you made it through the wedding ok, kudos to you for doing it sober too. Those coupley things aren’t easy when you are unhappy at being single again. Hope your Dad’s birthday goes well – sounds like you will be full on in the kitchen today!

    Feeling that something is missing to me is just like a big neon sign that you aren’t content in your life as-is. Which is a no-brainer. But the powerful thing is you are both actively working on yourselves and making choices to change that. You aren’t settling or hoping it will happen – you are proactively either saying no to things you no longer want ( Shelby’s job ) or facing the situation head-on and not ignoring it. So it’ll be painful, change always is, even when you want it. You guys are the experts here and you are doing a great job, even when you are feeling rubbish. Hang in there and we’ll be here for you when you need us. I fly out in just over a week so will be back to being a travel correspondent šŸ™‚Ā  It’s a bit manic trying to fit everything in that we thought we’d have done but hey, life is good – yours will be too as you work through this. Take care.

    #308417
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Morning all,

    X, thank you for your input. I suppose in a sense youā€™re right in saying that we only see what people want us to see on the social media platforms. It is likely that those people went through hardships also but not on full display to the whole world and therefore we are blissfully unaware just looking at their picture perfect lives. Much like Michelle now, in a loving and caring relationship BUT has been through her fair share of sh*t!

    Michelle, you literally never fail me with your wise words! Whilst I completely understand and really spent time thinking about the whole listening, accepting one another aspect of it all, I think at this stage I am beyond it all. Perhaps with some time the energy to do so will return but for now I feel things are better left unsaid.

    After rowing last night, thankfully, I didnā€™t see him before dozing off for the night so he got away luckily for the evening. Unfortunately this morning though he broke down some news about two sets of our mutual friends expecting children and again, sent me off into an absolute meltdown about whyyyyy?! Just whyyyyyyy am I not able to have this life?!!! Why do I not deserve a loving partner who would want all these things with me?! I literally just want to shut away from the entire world and not hear about any of it. And to be honest, Iā€™m still feeling the strong urge to run in the opposite direction this morning.

    I realise Iā€™m not sounding very much like the kkas who managed to get herself together in my last posts, but emotionally processing everything is so tiring and I think Iā€™ve just hit a point of exhaustion. Iā€™m sure as always I will endure and figure it all out but for now I just need to sit through all of these thoughts and feelings and try as best as I can to breathe.

    Heres to another day filled with sadness!

    #308457
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Kkasxo,

    I meant not only the social media platforms. On the one hand, you are right – we see those picture perfect lives, but we don’t know what people have been through before reaching this stage in their lives (like Michelle). And on the other hand, we see those picture perfect lives, and we might not know what happens behind closed doors, when all the guests are out and when the lights are off. Some couples are very good at presentingĀ  picture perfect lives to the outer world, including their family and friends, but only they know how much screaming, yelling, misunderstanding, etc. etc. goes on between them when they are alone.

    What I was trying to say, too, is that, technically speaking, all those “I love you” and “I do” really last only as long as these words are being enunciated. One simply cannot stay in that blissful state of a wedding (even if this particular wedding miraculously happens to be completely stressfree) for as long as one lives. Likewise, you can’t really tell, as you attend one, whether this particular couple will be as happy three months from now, one year, three years from now and so on. So there is really no need to look at a couple being wed and feel upset and wonder why it is not you. Who knows – maybe if it had been you, you would deeply regret it all in 18 months?

    Similarly, with couples expecting kids, especially a second child. Who knows – it may be their desperate attempt to strengthen their relationship that has started falling apart by having one more child and thus having a reason to be together?

    Kind of like with you. One might envy you: why not – you have a boyfriend, you two have recently moved together, but if one has read your posts here, one would really doubt whether you are to be envied.

    #308459
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Forgot to add. Also when the first child is born, a couple’s dynamics is significantly altered. So even having a first child can be seen as a litmus test of a relationship. Basically, at any point it is too early to tell, so no reason at all to be upset :))

    #308477
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Hi X,

    Point well made I guess,

    ā€˜Kind of like with you. One might envy you: why not ā€“ you have a boyfriend, you two have recently moved together, but if one has read your posts here, one would really doubt whether you are to be envied.ā€™ this one particularly got to me.

    It is true. Those around me who are mostly kept in the dark probably think weā€™re actually doing okay, when in reality I am breaking further and further every day.

    I guess the point I was trying to make is despite the problems those people/couples may be going through etc, they ultimately have the normality of a life that Iā€™ve always yearned for.

    My wondering is why am I not capable or deserving of having that too? In all honesty at this point in my life I am very doubtful of ever being in a place where I get married, or have a home and family with the man that I love.. it just doesnā€™t seem like something that is ever going to happen to me..

    Despite always being upfront and honest about my expectations/ wants from a relationship right at the start, and being extremely selective with the people I let into my life be it friendships or potential relationships, I always seem to stumble across absolute time wasters.

    Iā€™ve had a total of 2 long term relationships.

    One lasted 2 years and that was back in my college days, in hindsight it obviously wasnā€™t going to last forever but at the time I thought that was it. That fell apart and I ultimately walked away. I then spent time alone for the next two years, focusing on myself and absolutely enjoying single life. So much so that I was completely against the idea of a relationship as I was sooooo content on my own that I really didnā€™t even want to risk someone coming in to turn my little world upside down. And then Mr A came along out of nowhere when I least expected it and before you know it I was head over heels in love.

    We were both really honest with one another regarding our relationship expectations and I genuinely, genuinely believed with all that I had that this was the man I will marry, this is the man I will call my husband, this will be the father of my children, this is the man Iā€™m going to grow old with. I was so thankful for him every single day. And yet now, four years deep, I couldnā€™t feel any more of the opposite towards him.

    What is the point then?! What is the point of spending so many years of our lives in the hope that we are building something with someone only to have absolutely nothing but heartbreak, trauma and bittersweet memories to show for it.

    Kinda pointless if you ask me. And yet we all seek love, we all seek a deeper connection…

    #308483
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi, Kkasxo,

    I have been following Shelbyā€™s thread since she started it last year. I read all of your and Shelbyā€™s posts. I can relate to almost everything you two have written so far.

    Despite always being upfront and honest about my expectations/ wants from a relationship right at the start, and being extremely selective with the people I let into my life be it friendships or potential relationships, I always seem to stumble across absolute time wasters.

    Could not ring truer to me.

    ā€¦Despite the problems those people/couples may be going through etc, they ultimately have the normality of a life that Iā€™ve always yearned for.

    Hmm, not sure if I want ā€œnormality,ā€ I have always dreamt big, yet fell for all sorts of men and was and is ready to do my part. At the same time, I see a lot of women just like me, no better or worse, get exactly what I would want for myself. And when I would talk to such women and men, the vast majority of them would assure me that what the picture my mind is painting is absolutely normal and achievable. (For instance, I donā€™t want to have kids. Well, a couple of good colleagues of mine are childfree, but are married and are (or seem) happy.)

    My wondering is why am I not capable or deserving of having that too? In all honesty at this point in my life I am very doubtful of ever being in a place where I get married, or have a home and family with the man that I love.. it just doesnā€™t seem like something that is ever going to happen to meā€¦

    Exactly so.

    What is the point then?! What is the point of spending so many years of our lives in the hope that we are building something with someone only to have absolutely nothing but heartbreak, trauma and bittersweet memories to show for it.

    I really donā€™t know. Cā€™est la vie, I guess.

    Kinda pointless if you ask me. And yet we all seek love, we all seek a deeper connectionā€¦

    Yes, because it is biology and genetics and psychology. Mother Nature wants us to procreate. Her task is to bring the two together (hence the high of falling in love) so that they mate and produce offspring; the rest (ā€œhappily ever afterā€) is up to the two in question. So if the other party is ultimately not invested, I donā€™t see if there is a lot that we can do.

    That is why my stance now is that no matter how selective we are, nothing is guaranteed. We can do our best and then hope for the best outcome. But since we are so selective, we must go through a lot of people until we find that somebody who seems to fit. So ultimately it is the chance (there is a possibility that we may stumble upon our match right away, isnā€™t there?) and sheer number.

    At least, this is my philosophy now.

    I really wish I could be more helpful.

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