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March 14, 2025 at 10:25 am in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #444150
anitaParticipantDear Robi:
Thank you for your message! It’s always lovely to read from you, even if it’s been a little while. It’s inspiring that you’re aiming to shift from just surviving to creating!
It’s also good to read that you’re taking the time to reflect on your relationship and see the challenges as opportunities for growth together. It takes strength and self-awareness to approach things that way.
Thank you for asking about me. This year has been fine, one day at a time. Many days where too cold for me, fingers and nose freezing, but I’m grateful for moments of connection— like this one— and for the opportunity to keep learning and growing in my own way.
When I saw that you posted today, I went on a walk on memory lane. Here’s the 🚶-
Dec 7, 2018: “I’m a 25 years old guy living in Europe.
March 4, 2019: “Hey guys Pretty much every day I wanted to write here, but I always ended up doing something else. Don´t know why. I noticed this applies to pretty much everything in my life.. Except procrastinating.. I could be a world champion.
Dec 2, 2019: I am still here in Spain.. after looking for lots of jobs in February and March, I only managed to get a couple of hours a week, teaching English in a language academy.
Oct 2, 2022: So, now I live in Poland. I work online… after some thinking I believe I’m struggling with some sort of ADD… I’ve started a new chapter and I’m both excited and overwhelmed.
Jan 29, 2023: It’s been 6 months since I left Spain and came here to both start a new chapter and live with this woman. It felt right for me to step out of that life and try something new so I came to Poland… There are 2 things that seem to keep me busy thinking over and over. 1) Do I want to be with this woman? 2) Should we go somewhere else?
Feb 18, 2024: Most of my childhood I’ve lived in a guest room which served also as a storage room for my parent’s stuff. The door was made of glass, so I’ve had no privacy… During summer holidays we would go to our lake house. We would spend months in total there. I hated it. I kept telling my parents I didn’t want to be there but the answer was always the same… I felt alone and caged.
March 12, 2024: I’m experiencing a lot of impostor syndrome and insecurities which such up a lot of my energy so I often end up being emotionally tired… I keep feeling like I’m impersonating someone who knows what he’s doing. I guess I should be good at that – I’ve been doing it all my life in many ways and circumstances.
Dec 16, 2024: I’m now in my favourite cafe, with my computer and my girlfriend. I’m doing some of that online job while my girlfriend is organising her schedule.
March 14, 2025: currently doing some work on my computer, at my fav café… haven’t had much energy for anything else than surviving – I’ve been in survival mode so to speak. ( perhaps for the past 32 years but these last months more than ever).
Reflecting on what you shared today about being in “survival mode” and your desire to move from surviving to creating, I see a deep connection to your experiences growing up.
As a child, you lived in environments where you had little to no control— whether it was staying in a storage room with no privacy, waiting for hours at your parents’ workplace, or being forced to spend summers at the lake house you disliked. Your voice and needs often went unheard, which likely left you feeling powerless. Over time, this conditioned you to focus on enduring your circumstances rather than shaping them— a survival mindset.
For you, the storage room and summers at the lake house were consistent, stable aspects of your childhood, but they were forms of negative stability: environments that stayed the same but felt stifling, neglectful, and emotionally painful, leaving you “feeling alone and caged”.
Over time, this kind of negative stability created an unconscious association between “staying in one place” and feeling trapped, unheard, or powerless. As an adult, this could lead to discomfort with stability, even in healthy forms, because it unconsciously triggers those same feelings of being “caged.” In seeking change or new environments, you may be trying to escape those associations.
On the surface, moving to a new place or starting a new chapter may feel like an opportunity to leave old frustrations behind. However, without adequately addressing the underlying emotional wounds from childhood, each new setting or situation eventually starts to feel just as confining or unsatisfying as the last. The act of leaving or starting over might bring temporary relief, but because it doesn’t adequately address the deeper issues, the dissatisfaction resurfaces. This can make it harder for you to break free from the feeling of “surviving” rather than “creating”.
Your habitual procrastination may reflect an underlying discomfort with stability, leading you to resist the structured routines or responsibilities that stability requires. Procrastination serves as a way to avoid committing to stability. It serves as a coping mechanism, offering temporary relief from the perceived threat of stability
I truly admire your reflection, Robi, and the strength it takes to look inward and share these experiences so openly. The journey from surviving to creating is no small feat, but your insight and self-awareness already show just how capable you are. If any of this resonates with you, I’d love to hear your thoughts. I’m always here to explore these ideas with you or simply listen. You don’t have to walk this path alone 🙂
anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
I will reply further in the morning, but for now: please know that I don’t feel at all that your response discounts my perspective. In fact, your reflections and willingness to explore these ideas are incredibly enriching and thought-provoking for me. I’m honored that my thoughts could inspire you to dive deeper into your “soul anger” and its connection to your growth.
Thank you for sharing your journey so openly, and I look forward to continuing this dialogue with you 🤔
anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially when you’re so busy right now. I always appreciate the wisdom and depth you bring to these discussions. 🙏
I found it thought-provoking how you described calmly stating a preference as a means to handle anger, redirecting attention toward the underlying need.
I hope things ease up for you soon, and just know that your contributions are always valued here. Thinking of you fondly as well! 😊
anita
anitaParticipantDear Elizabeth:
It sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought into tonight’s conversation, and your plan to use “I” statements and focus on your needs is a great approach. Reassuring your husband of your love and framing your choice as something that makes the trip easier for him is both kind and thoughtful.
I know you’re worried about how his family will react and how he might handle it, but the Serenity Prayer can be a helpful guide here: “Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.”
You’re doing everything you can to express yourself clearly and set healthy boundaries. The rest—like his family’s reaction—is out of your control. Trust in your strength and wisdom, and know you’re handling this with grace.
Good luck tonight, and please let me know how it goes. I’m here for you.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Chris:
Thank you for sharing such a meaningful moment. It sounds like sitting under that tree and letting your emotions out was a truly healing experience. Sometimes, we don’t even realize how much we’ve been holding in until we let it out— and nature has a way of helping us do that.
I can only imagine how deeply ingrained compartmentalization must have become for you during your deployment. It’s understandable that those patterns stayed with you afterward, but it’s so encouraging to hear that these last few weeks have brought positivity and moments of release. It’s a testament to your resilience and your willingness to embrace your emotions that you’ve been able to find this sense of clarity and renewal.
The way you described the stranger’s understanding reminds me of how shared humanity can show itself in small, unexpected ways. It’s comforting to think about how those quiet moments of vulnerability— whether in nature or here in this forum— can bring so much relief and connection.
I hope this new chapter continues to bring you more of these moments of peace and self-discovery. Please know that I’m here to listen and support you however I can.
anita
anitaParticipantTyping as I think (no editing): I remember very well feeling that “soul anger” early on and for years, anger at having been severely abused on the emotional front, as a child, a teenager and onward, by.. you guessed who. But I never felt comfortable with that valid anger, that valid soul anger.
“How can one feel comfortable with anger? Especially with intense anger?”, a voice in my analytical brain asks?
And of course, I have to answer the voice even before I know the answer: because.. because.. oh, the question was “How?”, not “Why?”. Well.. it’s about being comfortable with experiencing these “hot” emotions (you used the word “hot”, peter). Although I never felt comfortable experiencing “hot emotions” of any kind, well, hardly ever, I believe that it is possible to feel comfortable with feeling hot emotions. It’s possible when there’s no judgment of self attached to the hot emotions.
Befriending my soul anger in regard to my mother’s severe abuse of me means telling this anger: welcome! I am glad you are here. Like a soldier that tried to get my attention all these years, telling me something like: “I am here to protect you! I am here FOR you! I will fight for you!”
Instead of appreciating you, soldier-soul-anger, instead of being grateful to you, I court martialed you!
No, no, no: I was wrong. I am so sorry, soldier-soul-anger. I am sorry I mistreated you. I hear your message now. You cared for me, about me, all along. Thank you, thank you forever more.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Chris:
Thanks for sharing your update. It’s so good to hear that things are looking up for you! I’m glad you’ve found some relief knowing your case won’t hold you back anymore. That Thai language program and the opportunity with Fit Corp Asia both sound really exciting—I’ll keep my fingers crossed for your interview! (🤞🏼)
Your monk’s advice, “Storms never last,” is such a powerful reminder, and it’s clear that you’ve lived through some very tough times. The strength and resilience you’ve shown, not just in moving forward but also in letting go of the past, is really inspiring.
It’s amazing to see how much you’ve grown and how confident you feel about handling whatever challenges come next. I hope your new path brings you the peace, acceptance, and fresh start you deserve.
Wishing you all the best in this next chapter of your journey. I’m here if you ever want to share more.
anita
anitaParticipantHi Everyone:
I will be processing, researching, and studying what you wrote here, Peter:
“I feel that for relationship to be strengthened by anger it’s when the energy of anger is dissipated and primary emotion acknowledged. My observation is that it takes time to allow the energy of anger to dissipate before the primary emotion can be felt, acknowledged and addressed… If a relationship becomes stronger after anger, was it anger that was expressed respectfully, or was anger acknowledged, and the primary emotion addressed. I think I’m getting lost in language and the difference doesn’t matter.”
It seems to me that you’re making a distinction between anger and primary emotions. As you likely know, primary emotions are the basic, universal emotions that humans are wired to feel, regardless of culture or upbringing. These include anger, fear, sadness, joy, surprise, and disgust—innate emotions that serve evolutionary purposes. For instance, anger can signal a threat to boundaries or rights, motivating action to protect oneself.
In contrast, secondary emotions are more complex and shaped by individual experiences, beliefs, and cultural factors. These emotions often emerge when we reflect on or interpret primary emotions and include feelings like guilt, shame, envy, and pride. Secondary emotions often build on primary emotions—for example, guilt might stem from sadness about hurting someone.
Anger, while typically considered a primary emotion because of its instinctive and universal nature, can sometimes act as a secondary emotion. For instance, anger might emerge secondarily when deeper emotions like hurt, fear, or shame remain unprocessed. In such cases, anger becomes a reaction to those underlying feelings rather than a direct response to the immediate situation.
Your post touches on this distinction when you mentioned anger potentially masking “primary emotions” like fear or shame. While I agree that anger can sometimes be a cover for deeper feelings, I wonder if you might be dismissing anger when it isn’t secondary—when it is instead a direct and valid response to something significant.
When seen as a primary emotion, anger can serve as a healthy and protective force—one that doesn’t necessarily isolate but can motivate action, reinforce boundaries, and even strengthen relationships. I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether you think there’s a place for viewing anger this way as part of your exploration of its role in relationships and self-awareness.
You mentioned earlier: “I don’t think I can be friends with anger.” Personally, in my evolving understanding, I feel strongly that anger—when it arises as a primary emotion—is my friend. It’s a friend I was estranged from for far too long and one I am actively learning to befriend.
anita
anitaParticipantHow are you, Clara?
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anitaParticipantStill here for you, anonymous 😊
anita
anitaParticipantThinking about you this morning, Chris. How are you?
anita
anitaParticipantHow are you these days, Tom?
anita
March 13, 2025 at 10:10 am in reply to: The phenomenon of “helping someone excessively can make them turn against you” #444114
anitaParticipantThinking about you, Arden, wondering how you are doing?
anita
anitaParticipant* I was thinking…
anitaParticipantDear Drew:
was thinking about our last exchange and wondered how things have been going for you. Did you get a chance to see your GP and discuss the ideas we talked about? I hope your strategy was well-received and that you’re making headway.
No pressure to share if you’d rather keep things private—I just wanted to check in and let you know I’m still here if you’d like to chat or need any further help.
anita
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