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InkyParticipant
Jesusa, I just realized that you might be a woman!!
Why don’t you admit what you really want?
Read the book Captivating by Eldrich (sp).
If you are a man, read that book even though it’s for women. It will blow your mind.
InkyParticipantMultiple as in three people together? Or multiple as in 2 girlfriends, 1 at a time?
In the ancient world, only sultans, warrior chiefs, and kings could get away with having more than one wife or having many concubines. And look what happened to Father Abraham! The patriarch of three world religions, and he couldn’t keep his women in line! Nor could his grandchild, Jacob/Israel. King David? Troubles. Solomon? Maybe. But he had the “Wisdom of Solomon”. Spoilers? The royal family all goes downhill for a while.
You’re just a normal guy. It’s fun and natural to seek all these women, be all that!
Women? We may *pretend* to be cool with it, to be evolved. If we are above it all, it casts a thin veneer of “I am the Head Wife, the Dominant Female”. Because if we admit we aren’t cool with it, we are “Jealous” which is the most Unevolved Thing You Can Be! Insecure? Not me!
But do you know what we women truly want? To be Cherished. To be The One and Only. To be The Princess. No, scratch that. To be The Queen.
And sometimes, Friend, she will unwittingly take after our ancient forefathers ~ only she will have hidden princes you don’t know about, until finally she picks one King (worldly or unworldly) that you do know about.
So no, I don’t understand this kind of commitment, (although it sound fun!) but I had to add ALL my thoughts!!! 🙂
Good Luck!
InkyParticipantHi There!
I know this is a spiritual website and we’re still evolving (some, like you, on purpose!) but here’s the thing ~
Most humans can get jealous. We just do. No conditioning, no past experience, no bad modeling. It’s bred in the bone. We are jealous. We just are. Even God in the Old Testament is a jealous God. He admits it! He is so jelly that He put it in one of the Commandments in stone “…for I am a jealous God…” There’s nothing to understand, manage or overcome.
You can say, “Dear Heart, on a spiritual, friendship, platonic level, I’m glad you are finding happiness. But the work colleague and the pretty young FB thing is an irritant for me.” And then ~ don’t see him! Be busy. Take a break. Do other things. Date other people. Unplug social media. Once you have space in your thoughts, heart and soul then see how he’s doing. He might be doing great! But you will be detached from it to a degree.
Honestly? Give it a year.
InkyParticipantHi There! I answered this in your comments, but glad you put it on a Forum!
To put a visual spin on this: The other week my son and I saw turkeys. It was mating season. The cob was all decked out in his finery. He looked half as big as the car, his feathers glistening with purple, blue and black highlights. He was shaking, rattling and cackling, long pinfeathers dragging melodically on the pavement.
“OK,” I said out loud, already bored. “Where is she? Where’s the hen?”
And then She appeared (this would be you LOL). Long-legged, slender, elegant, poking around for seeds.
The cob went crazy. More display.
Cars were honking and weaving around us.
Cob didn’t care.
And neither did she. I honestly, truly think she was 100% just looking for seeds. It wasn’t an act. She just didn’t care.
Look, if, in Mother Nature itself, which is a perfect reflective blueprint of The Universe, the females during Mating Season, THE Mating Season, don’t care, It’s OK!! You don’t have to be interested right now. There is no Cosmic Law, no Noah’s Ark. Just hang out. Eat seeds! It is perfect no matter what or who you choose or don’t choose!
I Promise!!! 🙂
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InkyParticipantYou know, even if you were in a real relationship with her, some people just are not texters or are bad with the phone. And guess what, that’s OK! And it’s also OK to not collect her from the station! Maybe give this one a break this summer.
InkyParticipantHi There,
I’m sorry he’s “bad in bed” in that way. Kama Sutra book? Tantic Sex? That could dove tail into his role playing to then become a Real Thing. Pick up some books and tell me if that makes sense.
Alcohol ~ My DH used to date a functioning alcoholic, and because of the drinks, they couldn’t get it to the next level. Or any level. Platonic friends who would be guests at weddings. Finally his minister told him something very wise, “Sometimes people need Little Hurts.” He broke up with her, and that, believe it or not, was the catalyst for her to become sober ~ for life ~ with or without him.
InkyParticipantAiyana, if you’re ever having a bad day, read one of the Posts I started when I first joined Tiny Buddha! You will feel amazing! 🙂
Now my family? Crazy. I chalk it up to ancient curses, epic past life fails and someone needs a real therapist (and it’s not me!!).
🙂
InkyParticipantHere’s another thought ~ Could FIL be (even subconsciously) angry that DH (as a teenager/young adult) didn’t help out more when MIL’s MS got to be an issue?
I wish I had words of wisdom, but without confronting it directly (or even by family and friends asking “FIL (Phil? LOL) what’s going on here?”), you are resigning yourself to this dynamic ~ with no answers.
Don’t know your belief system but:
Prayer work?
Mantras? (Can anyone reading this suggest a good one?)
I’ve had something like this (Who am I kidding, I HAVE this!). The family lawyer (who has known 4 generations of the fam!) was so puzzled by my Dad’s non-involvement that I think he ambushed us! We both found ourselves over to his house for dinner. Lawyer and his wife were looking at me and Dad’s interactions like we were exotic jaguars who had never met before. “So much alike! Yet so much not alike!” At the end it’s just one of those mysteries that you just have to write off with a shoulder shrug.
InkyParticipantMy first thoughts were: Is DH a product of a first marriage and the other two from a second? This is bizarre ~ is there any reason for FIL to think he’s not his biological son? Was there an ancient fallout that one or both of them are suppressing/denying? Did FIL finally grow up late in life and *now* more naturally bonds with those under 40 and small children? Was there any weirdness concerning DH’s first wife and that family?
Ironically, because he’s a shrink, you would think you could openly talk about this. Could you go have one of his colleagues over and bring this family stuff up? What will happen is the men will put on their professional therapist hats, but you *might* get somewhere!
Sometimes certain family members rub each other the wrong way. Or maybe FIL is waiting for *you and DH* to praise *him*!
Why don’t you bring a framed pic over every holiday as a present so he eventually has a collection? It’s hard to feel distant towards photos you see everyday. If you find he’s ferreted them away, then I would bring it up directly (which some would say you should do anyway). Good Luck!!
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InkyParticipantLOLZ!!
InkyParticipantHi There!
Financially have her account, the common house account, and your account. So if she’s dead against you using $$ for whatever, use your personal account. This will solve a lot of arguments in advance.
You (and your mother) are the active parents now. I think this is a blessing.
Relationship ~ Tell her you are taking a break for a year. If you two want to meet, do it in a nice quiet public place. Her Rage-ing is because it has become a terrible habit. Meeting in a different environment and time might change that.
Forget about her apologizing/being humble to your family. This is between you and her.
She may never parent or support the kids while separated. I would just quietly raise them and then revisit the whole household scene with her next year.
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InkyParticipantSounds like she wants an ego boost and a handyman. No wonder you’re getting mixed signals.
Say, “Here’s the number of a cheap, good handyman/computer guy.”
InkyParticipantI think the trick is to be open to the possibility of all things, *while also accepting things the way they are*. Is it *possible* for you to get back together? Yes. (The stats are against you.) But I do believe in the possibility of all things (AND have seen stranger things happen!!). There is such a thing as Grace, Magic and Miracles in this world. But I’ll tell you what, if she’s Closed and you’re acting like “That Guy”, every proclamation *will* actively repel her.
“Yes, I’m single now. Would I be open to a renewed relationship with her? Sure, maybe someday. Who knows?.” is the mental attitude you should have. Yes, it might be nice, but you’re not actively grasping for it.
Channel that energy into meditation and ~ this just came to me ~ running! An app like From Couch to 5K will give you something to do, a goal, and a focus. After finishing a real 5K (or something else if you’ve done one) will give you that Completion fix.
Forward! Onward! “There is no try!”
InkyParticipantyoda428,
This question is very important: In your soul, in your truest heart of hearts, in the moments when you can’t lie even to yourself ~ is it over, or is she just saying that?
If it’s over, ignore her. Leave her alone. Every time you make proclamations you become more repellant in that you’re making it worse!
If even 1% of her wants you back, and even if she doesn’t, FOR YOUR OWN MENTAL SANITY: Ignore her this year. The kids are old enough to handle their own events, coordinating, etc. If the texts aren’t urgent, no need to reply. You run into her? Wave and quickly vanish.
No less than one year later, WHEN YOU HAVE STOPPED OBSESSING, text back. Never initiate texts. You run into her, “Hi how are you? Gotta go!” Polite. That’s it.
Two years later, FOR YOUR OWN MENTAL SANITY, phone communication, but only if she calls first. You run into her? “Hi (name)!” Warm hug. “How are you? That’s great! Gotta go!”
As the years (yes, years) go on she will also see that you are better, healthier, etc. And she might miss that old attention. She just might, if this was a romantic series. But only if you move on this decade in Real Life.
If you’re lucky, you will be the best of friends again when the kids are adults. Perhaps even (ghost of a chance) get back together.
But please, leave her alone enough for her to miss you. For your own mental sanity, you don’t have to say “The End” but you do have to at least be able to say “The End ~ for now! *wink!* … to be continued Summer of 2020!”
InkyParticipantI notice these women are both online. To me it’s all fantasy. (Yes, that’s how you met, but I think he will prob. never meet them.) The gaming is an escape. Online is great! Beats mom dying, trying to pay rent, etc. It has little, if anything, to do with you. And after more than seven years, he sounds a little immature for his age (even if you had gotten together as young teenagers).
I would move out but live in the same town so he can see the child. It will be easier to break off the friends with benefits BS. It’s been too long. Or, take the summer off and you and your son visit your family! Maybe stay for good, he can move this time! You are in control of your own life. Sadly, not his.
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