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August 11, 2017 at 5:12 am in reply to: doubt about long term relationship that goes long distance relationship #163396ElianaParticipant
Hi Belle72,
It looks like you have gotten some good advice, so I don’t have much to add, however, I will use a quote, I like to use, because it is so very true. “Never beg for someone’s time, attention or love, if it is not given freely, it is not worth having”. Keep us posted.
ElianaParticipantHi Andrew,
I’m sorry to hear what you are going through. It saddens me, that she prefers to be depressed and unhappy, rather than going into counseling and getting screened for depression or a mental health diagnosis, and perhaps be started on antidepressants.
Right now she is very depressed. When depression gets a hold of you, nothing makes it right without treatment. It can’t be “snapped out of” or “willed away”. Until she gets on treatment and medication, she will continue to be depressed with you, her mother, her self, that guy, and the whole world.
Best thing to do, is to give her the space she needs. Let her come and get her stuff, so you don’t have to look at it. Or put it somewhere where you don’t have to see it, like a storage unit. She needs to get screened and professional treatment, or she will continue to be happy..even if you did reconcile, without treatment, things would go back to the way things were. Keep us posted.
ElianaParticipantHi Connie,
When he does contact you, is it positive? Does it sound like he misses you and wants to get back together? Even though, it’s every two weeks, maybe he is still “feeling things out” like “will she break up with me again if we do get back together?” maybe he is looking for re-assurance. Maybe something like “I know what I did hurt you, and I have learned from it. I promise to never do this again. Will you consider giving us a chance? What are your thoughts? I don’t think he is playing mind games.
ElianaParticipantHi Anna,
I wouldn’t do anything right now, just take “a wait and see approach”. When you have been separated by distance for awhile, he may change his feelings and decide he may not be as happy and content as he once was when you both were near each other and had your friends around you. He already knows that you will be friends anyway and he seems to be okay with that. After some time, he will find new people, and perhaps meet someone special (if that is what you want for him). So right now, you may not have to do anything. Being apart, takes on a whole new perspective on things. You will change and meet new people and so will he.
ElianaParticipantHi Sunny,
It could be that she cares for you and wants to come, but spa trips you have to reserve well in advance and it can be very expensive. Still she could have sent a nice card and gift and offered an explanation. It sounds like a very long term relationship and an important one, and if she is not in the habit of doing this often, I would gently tell her how you feel. Just say it was really important to you to have her there and see what she says. She may have wanted to come. I don’t know if the spa trip was one that she was traveling to, because in that case it can be very expensive and hard to cancel, but if it was just a day spa, I think it shows insensitivity on her part, and should be brought up.
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ElianaParticipantHi LotusLove,
I would be so mad at his treatment, I would say the heck with the lease and move out anyway. If he says anything, tell him, to have his ex move in, that way he can look at her without having to go to his I-pad. Grr. That’s just me though. I could not stand to stay a minute longer with a man who has a picture of his ex and his complete lack of respect for you. Just do what’s in your heart, not out of lease requirements. He can find another roommate. I would just get out and end all contact with him.
ElianaParticipantHi Amy,
You seem like a very strong person. It’s going to be hard. Break-ups or separations are never easy. But when you start missing him or crying, think of the negative things he put you through, and your frustration. Keep posting on here if you would like for support.
ElianaParticipantHi Rich
If it were not for the “cocktail of chemicals” I would not be alive today writing this to you. These medications have saved many lives, and lives cannot be reduced just because we do not deny our brains these meds, it would be like denying a diabetic insulin. The medications make us **want** to get out of bed every morning and function every day, and want to be in therapy. I used to think this way too..kind of like medications would “mess up my brain” or the “Jekyll and Hyde experiment” for years, people begged me to go on antidepressants, I never listened, I was in denial, preferring my comlacant life..just going through the motions. Then, I thought, how could the medications mess up my brain, it is already a mess, I need these meds to function. It was better than a little weed here and there, a glass or two of wine every night..just to dull my emotions – not much of a way to live.
ElianaParticipantHi Rose Tatoo,
Sometimes many of us look or are always searching for things outside of ourselves to make us happy. Have you ever heard someone say “when I finally get that raise..I’ll be happy?”..then they get the raise, yet they are not happy because with that raise comes more responsibility, stress, pressures from boss, etc. Or what about “if only I had more money I would be so much happier”..but you hear it all the time, money does not buy happiness. You hear about people winning the lottery. At first they are elated..then months down the road, they have lost it all, or something bad happens to that person. Even most celebrities with the fancy cars, awards, homes are not happy.
This is why so many people say “is this all there is? Then they blame life, because life does not being what they are searching for.
I have always believed “searching” for happiness is elusive and futile. Instead, find small things that brings joy to your day. Things to be grateful for. We have so much in this country, that most people in other developing countries can dream about. They have to walk 10 miles to hand wash their clothes in clean water. They have to worry where their best meal is coming from. They have to see their children go without clothes, medicine and hunger. They have to worry about being shot at if they wear the wrong clothes, get acid poured onto them if they don’t walk behind their husbands, or submit to them. They have to have to have “arranged” marriages. Loveless marriages. We have to count our blessings and that’s joy and happiness, because we don’t have to worry about all that.
We get to get out everyday and see the beauty of a sunrise or sunset. A beautiful butterfly. We have legs to walk, when people are in wheelchairs, in nursing homes or have Parkibsons. We get to wake up every day in the warmth of a bed, a roof over our heads, a hot shower, the small joys in everyday living can bring us happiness. Reading a good book, watching a great movie, laughing with a friend, watching Saturday night live, just the simpkiest things..fireworks, stargazing, an evening drive, a walk on the beach, a purring cat..these are the things that make us happy.
ElianaParticipantHi Amy,
I know it hurts, you were with him a very long time. What happened is you drifted apart because due to counseling, you grew and changed and became better and he did not. He stayed stagnant. And it doesn’t seem like he wanted to grow and change with you. So now you both are going on different directions. He is still in a downward spiral, or still where he is at, while you have gotten help and matured.
Let’s say you did get back together with him? You may be happy at first, because you missed him..but in a week or so, he would still be doing the same things that led him to counseling in the first place, he would still be doing the things that made you unhappy and you would end up resentful with him, and the relationship would be stagnant. Relationships are meant to evolve, meaning both people mature, work things out and change if they want to. You did, he didn’t. Would you be happy going back to that? Would he change, because you went back to him? Would you be happy or end up being resentful because he has not changed.
Perhaps it might be best to take a break, and give him some space. Maybe it will give him some time to sort things out and decide if he wants to change, grow and get back into therapy. Right now, you need someone who is on a journey with you and equal in emotional maturity. He may not be that man anymore. Keep us posted.
ElianaParticipantHi Jon,
I too, suffer from very intense, painful emotions which sabotaged many of my relationships. Most of it due to a very traumatic childhood, constant abandonment, severe neglect, emotional and verbal abuse, not getting the love and nurturing I needed as a child. Unfortunately, this has wreaked havoc in my adulthood, with my relationships with men, friendships, bosses, co-workers, and has left me with several mental health diagnosis, including Borderline Personality Disorder, which consists of impulsive, intense and painful as well as getting into co-dependent relationships. I have been in intensive DBT, REMT, and CBT therapy for several years. I was also put on Topamax for intense, impulsive emotion regulation. Since then, I have been less “intense” less “temper tantrums” less impulsive, my relationships have improved. There is help, there is hope. I hope everything works out. Keep us posted.
ElianaParticipantHi Findingme,
It may sound like intense fear of abandonment and rejection. I have it too, but mine came from constant abandonment from an Alcoholic mother, in my early childhood, rejection, no nurturing, no love, etc. Then what happens, is that we will push someone away or leave them, before they leave us. It becomes a viscious cycle. A book that really helped me with this called “I love you, don’t leave me!” Therapy really helped with fear of abandonment and rejection, pushing people away. Did you have any kind of abandonment or trauma in your childhood? Keep us posted. x
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ElianaParticipantHi Rich,
I self harmed for decades, until Topamax. I have Borderline, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, Have Panic Disorder, Severe Anxiety disorder. It wasn’t until I was about 45 until “I let go of my pride” and went on medication. This was after my 12th Psychiatric Hospitalization, right after cutting and wanting to swallow something. I knew something, anything needed to be done.
I too was “numbing” myself. I did not smoke Pot regularly because I was too afraid it would be a “gateway” to more potent drugs like heroin, cocaine. I could only take a few “hits” and I already felt the effects. Yes, it felt good, but it was just a temporary bandaid. I only felt good for about 1/2 hour. Then I would get “paranoid” once I thought my friends dog was out to get me, and it was a small cocker spaniel! My friend laughed at me, because she knew I loved the dog, and could not figure out why I was Acting so paranoid. Please don’t do drugs as “a way out” because it just makes you feel worse, depressed and guilty in the long run, not to mention people can get in trouble with the law, and is it ever expensive. Weed won’t fix your need for perfectionism, self harming, etc.
Sertraline is in a class of antidepressants called SSRI’s. I was on Prozac, Celexa, Zoloft, Lexapro, Paxil. I felt like a zombie. They numbed me. Then they put me on SNRI’s, such as Cymbalta, which didn’t do anything at all, except make me sweat profusely, make my heart race, vivid dreams, and sent me to ER. I was finally put on Remeron (Mirtazapine) while hospitalized, it is in a class of antidepressants by itself, not an SSRI, or Antipsychotic, or SNRI. I have been on it since 2005, and it pulled me out of the worst depression of my life. I am also on Wellbutrin XL, which in in a different class of antidepressants. Not an SSRI. Does not numb you, or the Reneron. Topamax, is for Migraines and seizures but has been very successful for emotion regulation. It is not an antidepressant. What I am saying is don’t give up on antidepressants because SSRI’S (Sertraline) did not work for you. They don’t work for many people because they numb your emotions. It’s just trial and error, they can also do a “cheek swab” to find which one will work for your DNA. Olanzapine is also used with great success for people with intrusive thoughts, perfectionism, etc. It’s in a class by itself. Very well tolerated. An Atypical Antipsychotics/Antidepressant. And it’s longer lasting and less expensive, more effective than weed.
ElianaParticipantHi Cruzzie,
This is the depression talking. Remember, that you are the sky, depression are the clouds. This is a temporary feeling. You have been through this..and you thought, you probably couldn’t make it out..you just didn’t want to bother anymore..but you know what? It was a feeling, it passed, and you made it out, and you will again. Sometimes when we feel we we are at rock bottom, we always climb out. Just think back at the times you felt this way. You made it out. You will again. The darkness will go away. Just keep remembering this is only a temporary feeling. Contact a crisis line to help you through this, I have several times. Don’t be embarrassed. They are there 24/7. Post on here too. You **will** get through this. x
ElianaParticipantHi Cruzzie,
Can you tell me a little more about what happened? What caused this rate? Was it a man, work, friend, parents, life in general? Does this happen often? What are the triggers that set you off? Are you able to pause when you know you are going to have a violent outburst? Maybe get a plan for yourself..such as taking a walk when you feel the anger coming, or be aware of the present moment by guided imagery such as a peaceful scene. Perhaps deep breathing. That usually works with me or calling my friend. I have cue cards, that my therapist helped me with and every time I feel intense anger, I get out one of my “distress tolerance skills” cue cards, which takes my anger from a 10 to maybe a 4. Just keep working on it, have a plan, when you know this is going to happen.
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