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WillParticipant
OK, fair enough.
I would say, apologise for throwing a fit, explain that you have these concerns, hear her out when she explains her side of the story, and let her go to yoga class. It comes down to trust in the end, they’re not going to brainwash her. Even if they do teach a polygamous philosophy, she’s still your girlfriend. Let her tell you about what the classes are like, and how she feels about doing sexual “excercises” with someone (if it came to that!) and so on.
Explain what you want, listen to what she wants, find a reasonable compromise. Again, your initial reaction was probably an over-reaction. Good luck, man.
WillParticipantBig blue, speaking as a lady (the name’s confusing, I know. Sorry.) I would be happy if my friend started dating. Happy for them. Especially if I knew they kind of carried a flame for me maybe, because it would mean they’d finally be getting over that and things would be less awkward between us. (Except, speaking from experience, things would probably never really stop being slightly awkward. These days, I’d probably increase the distance myself because these kinds of friendships are wrought with drama and hurt feelings all around.)
So yes, I would notice. I would notice and be relieved.
It seems to me you’re suggesting Cyd can manipulate her into loving him or at least being jealous by finding someone to date. At the same time, he can deceive himself into believing he’s really into it for the ‘new experiences’ and ‘fun’ he’ll be having on these pretend dates, while not actually letting her go. It would actually be all about her. And if she shows a glimmer of interest, the next step is obviously some grand, public gesture which would embarrass her into agreeing to date him.
Darling, that’s terrible advice. Start to finish. You can’t manipulate someone into loving you. Trying to make someone jealous is middle school bullshit. And what about the other ‘fun dates’ he’d be using in this way? They’re probably looking for someone who’s, you know, legitimately available. Not nice. Hanging out with a friend who only wants to be friends in the hope they’ll see what a wonderful lover you’d make is a game that can only end in tears. As for the stadium? Words fail me.
No. Sit down.
And have a cup of tea. I know you mean well, and just because I disagree with your approach to the situation doesn’t mean I think you’re a bad person or wrong about everything. Just this thing. All my best wishes.
WillParticipantIf you know your writing is bad, try fixing it? This isn’t dislexia or a language barrier, this is laziness. “Are” is three letters. You can handle three letters. If you miss vowels out because you’re typing too quickly, go back and put them in. It’s really disrespectful to expect people read something so long and difficult to read when you are the one who needs help and advice. At least put in the extra work to make it easy for us to understand what your problem is.
From what I gather, you and this guy are a drama battery. Probably wise to steer clear. Was that your question? I don’t know, I can’t read your mangled ramble!
WillParticipantMatt’s answer is good. I can also feel with the Ruminant’s experience. I am the same, yet slightly better. And I still have good days and bad, and sometimes, when I’m sleep deprived or something happens that digs right down to the root of my weaknesses, it all goes out the window for a moment and I’m as bad as ever. But I get back out of that mire more quickly now. And it doesn’t happen so often, now.
Keep practicing. You don’t graduate from eating your greens (as Matt says) or brushing your teeth or getting up on time or being kind to people. It takes less deliberate effort as you get into the habit, but you keep doing these things. That’s what change is, remembering to do the things that are helpful.
August 11, 2014 at 5:57 am in reply to: Did I sabotage my relationship? That's what my ex says. #63071WillParticipantSo glad to see this. Your ex sounds like a jerk. Congratulations on losing him, sister. 😀
WillParticipantNo.
It is very hard work to be “just friends” with someone you want to be “more than friends” with, and it rarely leaves you better off in the end. You will always have the low ground in any interaction, you will always want more from them than they are able to give you. It’s not fair on you and it’s not fair on them. Rarely, the longed-for “friend” in this situation has a change of heart, but the odds are against you and what are you missing out on while you pine for them?
Cut ties. Mourn what never was, then pick yourself up and find someone who wants you, too.
WillParticipantI think ‘energy healing’ is quite a broad term, as many healing methods deal with energy. I may misunderstand, though, so forgive me if my answers are off base.
I took Reiki classes (giving it, that is, not just receiving it) when I was a teenager, and although it didn’t create huge changes for me, I found comfort in it and it was one of the things that helped me work though my own gnarly childhood issues.
Try it, if it feels good and helps you see things a bit diffently, it might be a helpful thing.
WillParticipantI think you may be over-reacting slightly. I’ve done some tantric yoga and it was just a bunch of breathing exercises, nothing all that sexy! 🙂
I think the suggestion of going with her is a good one. It will give you some idea of what she’s doing and you can talk about what she enjoys about it and help calm your fears a little. Or, if it does feel a bit sleazy and too free-lovey for your tastes, then you can talk to her about that and point out specific things that people said or whatever it was that rubbed you the wrong way. An informed conversation is generally a good idea.
Good luck!
WillParticipantI’m pretty sure that under the law you can divorce a man you don’t want to be married to. You don’t have to earn that. Not anymore.
But that aside.Matt, your wife is acting like a jerk. “It’s just talk”? No, that makes no sense. She wants out of her marriage. That’s what she’s telling this guy, that’s what she’s telling herself, she just can’t bear to tell you. Yet.
Sorry to give you bad news, but from what you’ve said, I just can’t imagine this marriage working out. At all. Never mind if poly marriages are taboo – it’s not what you want. And poly relationships work only if all members can count on each other to be truthful and each of the members are devoted to making it work. This is not going to work. If she doesn’t have a change of heart dead quick and starts working on gaining your trust back, I don’t think there’s any way out of this but filing for divorce.
There’s worse things than growing up in a single-parent marriage. And maybe you can find someone new in time to be a mother to your kids.
This is tough, man. I hope you have people you can talk to while you go through this. Know that things won’t always hurt this bad. Keep moving. All my best wishes.
WillParticipantThe Ruminant speaks wisdom.
There is no such thing as a point of no return unless you are actually dead. You are not dead. You live. And you can move towards being kinder to yourself, to turning your anger into constructive action, learning about letting go of the past and your anger.
It’s not going to be easy. But I don’t see that you have an alternative.
WillParticipant“You give a lot, and hope someone returns the favor…and over time, you start to get annoyed, resenting people, and the once giant heart you once gave so freely gets covered in gnarly scar tissue.
You look around, and you see people who are complete jerks with hot women that they don’t deserve, whom you could treat better.”Giving in the hope of having favours come in return is not true giving. It is manipulating and if it bites you in the ass, maybe that’s a natural outcome. If you give out of an honest friendly well-meaning, and don’t give more than you have, none of this gnarly scar tissue will result. It is up to you whether you start to get annoyed and resent people. And it doesn’t hurt anyone as much as it hurts you when you do.
Hot women are not a prize you “deserve” by treating them well or scoring attractiveness points. They are human beings with their own hopes, dreams, neuroses and reasons for doing things. And this human being right here is moved, for some reason, to point out you sound like a boor in these couple of paragraphs.
Your advice is sound enough, but it sounds like you need it as much as anyone. Good luck with your shifting perspective.
WillParticipantYou will know which voice is the right one by following one of them and watching whether that makes you happier or more wrapped up in doubt, stress and misery.
I know which I would choose, but I’m not you. I’ll just second the Ruminant in saying I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you if you choose NOT to work in television. Lots of people choose not to work in television. Not because they couldn’t make it, but because they just don’t want to.
WillParticipant“When a friend changes on you and you dont understand why , should you let go or try to get the friendship back even though you have tried countless times”
And when you put it like that, it seems you’ve answered your own question. It’s sad to lose friends, but as you grow older and circumstances change, this is what happens. Just work on letting it go, seems that’s all that’s left to do there.
My sympathies and best wishes. And congratulations on finding a man to love. 🙂
WillParticipantNot giving into every unreasonable demand from your mother sounds like very skillful behaviour to me.
Remember that the karma you reap is not just your actions from last week, it is the years and years before, the way you grew up, the thoughts you’ve taken in as your own, your long-term intentions and short-term aquiescence.
Being your mother’s puppet is a sure way to further suffering: how could you find contentment if you’re at the beck and call of someone who is never content? Guard those boundaries, and work towards a better financial situation with dilligence, patience, and a sense of independence. You are very clear in this post about what you don’t want to be. You know where to go. You will suffer along the way. Of course. That’s the first noble truth.
Don’t panic. Nothing is wrong. Continue on your way as you ‘burn off’ your previous karma of giving in to your mother’s demands, and reconfigure your relationship with her. It will get easier.
All my best wishes.
WillParticipantVK, I hope you’re feeling OK. This is a hard situation to be in, so cut yourself some slack if you feel sad, weak, even broken. Even if that is how you feel right now, you will heal in time if you continue to offer yourself kindness and comfort.
And stay away from the snake pit, yes.
All my best wishes.
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