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ConfusedParticipantYeah i guess its good.So now i have to see where my fear of closeness comes from.
ConfusedParticipantNo no he said that IF the compulsions persist he could give me something mild if i want it, but he said that i dont need anything right now from what ive told him.
He said that this feeling of “depression” probably comes because i havent found what i like doing in my life and it is repetitive.
Its a weird situation because one thing drives the other.
ConfusedParticipant[quote quote=454548]Oh, so, you felt the pressure to “stop it” and projected it to her? In other words, you thought/ felt “Stop It” and you sort of heard her say it?[/quote]
Yes kinda like that. I know i have to stop it because it numbs me from feeling anything, but its hard. I know her asking me those questions will possibly lead to me trying to drop the overthinking because i will eventually let go of trying to control
ConfusedParticipantAlso, today i visited a psychiatrist for evaluation, i described the situation and he told me that he doesn’t think i have anything that needs meds, just some compulsions, that perhaps might need something mild for a while if they persist, not ADHD or smth.I told him how i intellectualize everything in my life (mainly feelings), which is an avoidance mechanic in order for me to avoid feeling the negatives. He said that i overgive in the relationships to get the other person to like me (so they wont leave me/hurt me or have anything bad to accuse me of -a tad of narcissicm there but its normal-) and when its time for me to “prove” something or things get real, i find myself deep in a situation that i dont know how i got there, so i get anxious that i will “hurt” the other person, or i will seem like the bad guy and i freeze from anxiety, which leads again to hurting the other person and making me the bad guy, a self-fulfilling prophecy. (this is how i felt with her) But he also said that it’s because all my relationships were based on infatuation and i don’t know how to transition from that to the next phase, which is what’s probably happening with this girl now, but its more difficult because of the distance and the lack of physical contact.
He said that my feelings are not gone, just covered by anxiety and that i dont let myself feel them, i am afraid of getting hurt.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I might have used the meaning of her words haha. She asked me “why am i doing this, how is it benefitting me (if it is) and what is the purpose behind it” so i understood that she meant i have to stop it. She didnt just say “stop it”, but she does point it out when i do that and she says “now u are doing it again”
ConfusedParticipantI say the same as you anita, i prefer sad over the nothingness that i have now.
Yes, thats what i do, i intellectualize everything so i dont have to feel them, therapist pointed it out too, told me to stop it.
Haha i wish it was that easy for the overthinking brain..
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I can’t really tell who exactly needed me, my mother did have her parents so i dont know really. It could be speculation.
But this girl’s love is calm, so that feels “unknown”/dangerous to me and i reject it? Could it all be just emotional burnout? Many scenarios arise in my head.
Thank you very much for your words 🙂
Im sorry if i reminded you of things that make you sad.
ConfusedParticipant@thomas
Thank you, i will look into that since i’ve always been kinda curious about those things, they seem kinda “weird” to me 🙂Hey anita
Perhaps my shutdown is getting in the way yes.
No i didnt try to perform, i genuinely couldnt connect the sentences, the pages in the forum dont help haha1) Hmm, the feelings that came were fear (that i will disappoint, not be enough), then pressure (because i have to perform in order to not disappoint) and finally avoidance of the situation altogether.
2) Now i feel inadequacy because of my state, but if she is too clingy (which she isn’t) i feel anger (that goes towards my friends that never do anything without me and i feel like they are hanging from me). But the therapist said that this is a form of love that people express towards me (wanting to include me in their plans) and i probably can’t accept because i perceive it as pressure and responsibility, perhaps because at some point in my life someone needed me too much and i resented that. That makes some sense to me, because in most of my life i’ve been helping people everywhere, not expecting anything in return. But idk if i connected that to the girl or something, its very hard to identify.Now i am mostly numb towards everything, even sadness is gone, fear too.
ConfusedParticipantU said P&R yesterday, thats where im referring to 🙂
Pressure is what i can’t feel consciously, along with fear of commitment or closeness. Responsibility i can feel, about her feelings for example, but i know it’s wrong because her feelings are her responsibility.
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Is there any guide u used for meditation?
ConfusedParticipantU talked about pressure and responsibility, i can sense responsibility, but not the pressure and the “fear” behind them, consciously.
ConfusedParticipantHaha internet connects us in weird ways 🙂
Yes this was my question and the “fix” thing, i was referring to the “pressure and responsibility” and the distance i put in between, because its not something that i feel consciously, so how can i stop it?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I realized the first thing about pressure, but i cant fathom the other one about closeness. I’ve never felt it before with any other girl (i guess it was more superficial? less time?)
Yes and how do we change that? 🙂
I can’t really remember how love was “given” to me. She asked me if i was ever “needed too much” from someone and that made me resent this feeling, but my whole life i was needed by people to help them with different things, until one time i cut it all off.
I know but i can’t feel it consciously, so how can i “fix” it if i can’t feel it?
I think it feels like responsibility for sure, pressure idk..maybe?
I have most of those traits, but i struggle with 1,2,3,6.
So how does one reach Nirvana? 🙂
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Oh u mean something like a bar, i got it now.
But how can we understand?
I have been familiar with the alcohol since i was 14 haha, we were just drinking it on the streets.I just stopped because it ruins my stomach now.
Thank you for your thoughts, i think my mind is triggered 24/7, dunno how to set it at ease.
Today with the therapist, i realized that when people love me or express their love, i feel it like pressure and responsibility, so i guess i have to re-learn. Also she told me that to her it seems like i have feelings from a “distance” and when the other person comes too close, i dont feel them.
ConfusedParticipantThank you 🙂
Local taproom? What is this? (oh okay i didnt think of that). I understand, i appreciate your replies, they might help me out too 🙂
Oh i dont know really. My guess would be chaotic house and relationships? I notice that i am anxious towards my relationships, avoidant when sensing rejection and completely avoidant towards my family/friends.
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