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September 15, 2017 at 9:41 am in reply to: How can you love yourself when you're unlovable ? #168740PeterParticipant
How can you love yourself when you’re unlovable? First step, Truly knowing that no one is unlovable, no one. Second step, Reflecting on your expectations and understanding of love so that you might know what your aiming for.
Fear is to Courage as Doubt is to Faith. Meaning that you don’t fully experience courage when you’re not also afraid. Just as you don’t fully lean on Faith when you are not also experiencing doubt. Likewise Love
Love is easy when everything is going your way and those you love are not pushing any of your buttons, but when you can Love (Witness, Validate, Hold accountable, Encourage, Support, Nurture, Discipline) others and yourself when things aren’t as you want/hoped/dreamed, then you will know Love.
Love your Neighbor as yourselves… yet many of us love our neighbors better then we love ourselves. We are harder on ourselves while giving others the benefit of the doubt. (But if we look closer if we don’t love ourselves can we really love others.)
The good news is that being in the place you find yourself in this moment means that you are where you need to be in order to develop a deeper understanding and experience of this thing we call Love. It will require that you create some space for yourself so that you can do the work. Start by avoiding making judgments about your self and just being when you find yourself slipping.
You may David Richo Books Helpful as guides.
‘How to Be an Adult in Love: Letting Love in Safely and Showing It Recklessly by David Richo
We were made to love and be loved. Loving ourselves and others is in our genetic code. It’s nothing other than the purpose of our lives—but knowing that doesn’t make it easy to do. We may find it a challenge to love ourselves. We may have a hard time letting love in from others. We’re often afraid of getting hurt. It is also sometimes scary for us to share love with those around us—and love that isn’t shared leaves us feeling flat and unfulfilled.
David Richo provides the tools here for learning how to love in evolved adult ways—beginning with getting past the barriers that keep us from loving ourselves, then showing how we can learn to open to love others.
The first challenge is that we have a hard time letting love in: recognizing it, accepting it from others. We’re afraid of it, of getting hurt. The second, related problem is that we’re unable to share love with those around us–and love that isn’t shared isn’t truly love. The first step to learning to love and be loved, according to Richo’s model, is to identify the different levels of love so that you can hit each one separately. He breaks it down to three:
- Level One: Positive Connection. As simple as being courteous, respectful, helpful, and honest, and decent in all our dealings. Pretty basic, but it makes the world a better place, and it’s the essential foundation for growing in love.
- Level Two: Caring and Personal Connection. Intimacy and commitment to friends, family, partners, lovers. Commitment to others.
- Level Three: Unconditional and Universal. Transcending the love of individuals to the love of all beings; self-sacrificing. The love expressed in the Sermon on the Mount and the Bodhicharyavatara. This level of love isn’t for a heroic few, it’s everyone’s calling.
He then shows us how to incorporate these varieties of love into our lives. It’s a relief to know that even just aspiring to incorporate them really changes things. He also provides exercises and guided meditations for identifying and getting through the things that keep you from getting and giving love at each of these three levels.
Through the lens of these types of love, Richo covers topics such as: how to still be yourself while loving another; how to embrace your dark side; what to do when the one who loves you dies; need versus fear; clinging; healthy sexuality, including fantasies and how to experience pleasure without guilt; how to break destructive patterns in your relationships; and how to have safe conversations with your loved one.
Richo provides wisdom from Buddhism, psychology, and a range of spiritual traditions, along with a wealth of practices both for avoiding the pitfalls that can occur in love relationships and for enhancing the way love shows up in our lives. He then leads us on to love’s inevitable outcome: developing a heart that loves universally and indiscriminately. This transcendent and unconditional love isn’t just for a heroic few, Richo shows, it’s everyone’s magnificent calling.
When you can say Yes to life as it is, the good the bad and the ugly and know it to be love you are coming closer to experiencing Life from the perspective of LOVE were we are all one.
September 14, 2017 at 1:55 pm in reply to: Do You Have To Examine ALL Beliefs For Truth/When Do You Stop Being Lenient? #168670PeterParticipantBeliefs and Truth are complex subjects.
An un-examined life is not worth living” – Plato So from the point of view philosophy it is everyone duty to examine ones life and Belief for ‘truth’/authenticity
We all have certain core beliefs about life, about ourselves and about the world. These beliefs shape how we see the world and what happens to us. They are pretty much the building blocks on which we create our reality. Now, the vast majority of these are un-examined beliefs, and they were formed in childhood, some often in the first five years of your life. Chances are you adopted them because they were useful at the time, or because you didn’t know any better. Each individual very subtly takes on many of the beliefs of their parents, peers, people they look up to. And so long as these un-examined beliefs remain just that – un-examined – the probability of change is low
As for change. Change happens very slowly and then all at once. Meaning we don’t tend to notice little changes that have to take place before the change we seek appears.
PeterParticipantSuch a irony that our greatest strengths can also be our weakness.
Thanks for postingPeterParticipantSelf talk is the inner dialog we hold with ourselves. For example, we do something dumb and we keep telling ourselves were dumb, stupid, ugly, evil as we review the memory over and over.
Voices we hear as coming from outside ourselves, that only we hear, is a different matter.
PeterParticipantWhen you talk about hearing voices in your head, do you hear the voices as negative self talk or voices coming from some place else?
PeterParticipantWow you sure have put a lot of pressure on yourself. Your goals are admirable however the first step in achieving them may require letting them go. You might be asking yourself how can I achieve them if I let them go. It’s a change of reference that creates space to becoming and being and such a person who is free of such constraints (like the ones you have put on yourself) will be an inspiration to others.
“What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell a sweet.” Let go of unnecessary name expectations such thinking is unskillful/mindful.
Likewise, is judging our lives based on how we can only imagine others are doing. Interesting study on about Facebook. Many people become depressed reading the post of others as it always appears like they are having such great lives. Most people only post the good stuff, moments of time, and we never know the whole story. Everyone struggles. No one can know what others are feeling, doing, thinking and if you think you know I would bet if you really look you are comparing yourself to an illusion that you have created. Illusion on Illusion on Illusion… let it go.
I recommend the following books:
‘The Art of Racing in the Rain’ by Garth Stein. Is about a race car driver J
‘The Alchemist’ by Paulo Coelho
‘Pathways to Bliss: Mythology and Personal Transformation’ by Joseph Campbell“Because memory is time folding back on itself. To remember is to disengage from the present. In order to reach any kind of success in automobile racing, a driver must never remember.” ― Garth Stein
“Inside each of us resides the truth,” I began, “the absolute truth. But sometimes the truth is hidden in a hall of mirrors. Sometimes we believe we are viewing the real thing, when in fact we are viewing a facsimile, a distortion. As I listen to this trial, I am reminded of the climactic scene of a James Bond film, The Man with the Golden Gun. James Bond escaped his hall of mirrors by breaking the glass, shattering the illusions, until only the true villain stood before him. We, too, must shatter the mirrors. We must look into ourselves and root out the distortions until that thing which we know in our hearts is perfect and true, stands before us. Only then will justice be served.”
― Garth Stein
“The secret is here in the present. If you pay attention to the present, you can improve upon it. And, if you improve on the present, what comes later will also be better. Forget about the future, and live each day – Paulo Cohelo
“Follow your bliss. If you do follow your bliss, you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while waiting for you, and the life you ought to be living is the one you are living. When you can see that, you begin to meet people who are in the field of your bliss, and they open the doors to you.I say, follow your bliss and don’t be afraid, and doors will open where you didn’t know they were going to be. If you follow your bliss, doors will open for you that wouldn’t have opened for anyone else. – Joseph Campbell
- This reply was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Peter.
PeterParticipantI think we have all experienced the anxiety and disillusionment you are talking about. In the age of “information” and 24/7 news where 90% of the stories we hear have a negative connotation its no wonder. As such there is nothing “wrong” with your thinking, however this might be more of an issue of focus/mindfulness. What you are allowing your consciousness to remain focused on.
You ask how you might correct this thinking.
I think the tools of compassion and mindfulness might be helpful. Compassion in this case for your thinking and anxiety instead of judgment. Such a perspective opens the door to mindfulness where you might notice such thinking and anxiety as observations and so doing allow them to pass. For example, this news story disappoints me and fills me with anxiety. I am sorry such things happen and that people can behave this way. I see I can also act in hurtful ways and feel compassion for others and myself (while still holding myself and others accountable. Not doing so would not be Love). Hurtful things might/will happen to myself and family and for those things I can control I will attend to the rest I let go and lean on my faith that Life (which includes death) is Love.
Mindfulness may also help you better direct your consciousness. Consciousness is attracted to ‘loud noises’, things we are afraid of, fear, possible trouble. Mindfulness teaches us to notice without fixating on what we become aware of and in this way, respond or react as the needs arise. We learn to better direct our consciousness.
When you think of it is really is a waist of time to worry about a future that never happens. Track all the things you worried about against what actually happens and you will likely notice that a large percentage never occurred. You can and should prepare for possible outcomes but once you do worry has served its purpose. Mindfulness will help you let it go.
Lastly “the car goes were the eyes go” meaning our mind/thinking goes were our eyes go. There is far more goodness and beauty in the world then ugliness. Its true. Just look around you and direct your awareness to the wonder.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Peter.
PeterParticipantI’m not a Buddhist, a practitioner of religious origination, so may answeres won’t be any help to you.
We are all Buda’s – potential for Buda consciousness, Christ Consciousness, Philosophers Stone, The Still Point – All same.
Why do you believe there is suffering within our world? – The price of Consciousness/being awake
How does this impact the way you live your life? Life happens; you can say No to it or say Yes it, how you answered will influence your experience and story you create for yourself.
What do you believe happens after you die? Return to the collective unconscious
What do you believe your purpose in life? That for most people such questions will only lead to despair so ought not be asked – Unskillful question – notice that when you ‘feel’ purposeful, like joy, you never ask the question, you just are.
Please explain how being a Buddhist and following their traditions answers the ultimate question of the meaning of life? Life has no purpose/meaning, each of us IS meaning/purpose and we bring it to Life! There is no point in asking the question when YOU are the answer. Go experience Life.
PeterParticipantWithout imperfections, we would remain unconscious of ourselves.
PeterParticipantRecommend the book: Art of Forgiving: When You Need to Forgive and Don’t Know How – Lewis B. Smedes
PeterParticipantEach of us is unique and love is experienced and expressed on many different levels. Most of us, when we talk about love are often talking about something else like relationship, living together, sex… all components of love but never the complete picture in and of themselves.
If your a thinking type that likes to analyze feelings and have a concept of love that is romanticized perhaps seeking that feeling of being overwhelmed by the need for someone – and calling that love. Your probably going to be disappointed. I think a place to start is defining for yourself what love is and then not overthink it.
PeterParticipant“What was really needed was a fundamental change in our attitude toward life. We had to learn ourselves and, furthermore, we had to teach the despairing men, that it did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life—daily and hourly. Our question must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual” – Viktor Frankl
Frankl concludes that the meaning (Purpose) of life is found in every moment of living; life never ceases to have meaning, even in suffering and death
The search for purpose can only lead to despair. It is like hoping to win the lotto when you never by a ticket and still being disappointed. Like searching for the glasses your already wearing. You can’t search for something when you are IT.
The world would be a happier place if we just forgot about this idea of purpose.
PeterParticipantSorry to hear about your situation but glad to hear that your taking the steps you need to take to be safe and take care of yourself.
If its unacceptable for you to live with a person with a drinking problem, then that is your truth and there is not much more you can do until and unless your husband comes to terms with his demons.
I think you have done what you needed to do and that all you can do in the time being is respect the space that was created.
Very much recommend the book ‘How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving – by David Richo if your ready for that kind of thing
PeterParticipantI have seen to many people get hurt when they don’t respect when someone they care about has asked them not to contact them again. (After having all the usual post break up conversations, drama and such. There are usually at least three such encounters – three strikes and your out.)
If you keep calling and telling her you are getting help and going to change, bla, bla, bla… It might work for a time but the odds are against the relationship working out.
If you feel that you need to change then you must do that for yourself and not place that burden onto her. Perhaps once the work is done you might call her, however you must be prepared to learn that she has moved on.
If in time she should wants to contact you, you must be careful that your ready as its likely you will fall back to old habits. You can’t step in the same river twice.
PeterParticipantI also struggle with loneliness though no longer the anxiety about being lonely. I have gotten used to, and even enjoy, be out on my own, and for the most part am ok with it… and then the night comes and I wonder about meaning and purpose, wondering why I should wake in the morning.
I suspect loneliness very much tied to the experience of meaning and purpose and perhaps that is where some of the anxiety comes from.
Sorry that I don’t have any answers
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