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Dear Ashmitha,
I am sorry you had another disappointment. But it’s great that you talked to him beforehand and honestly expressed your concerns and also your needs. That was a huge step you did for yourself – so well done!
He said everything was unintentional and hard to see without taking a step back and evaluating it.
This I feel is again one of his manipulations. He’ll always find some excuse why he cannot spend more time with you, he’ll always find some justification. Like now: you agreed to have a date and he cancels in the last moment, but not due to an emergency that he really needed to tend to, but do to a family event that a) he probably knew in advance about, and b) is not super important either, because it’s a prayer for his cousin’s mother who passed away 2 years ago.
I am almost sure he knew about this prayer in advance, since he’s so close to his family, they probably informed him. If it was really important that he be there, he could have arranged a date with you for another day, say Sunday. But I guess on Sunday he has other family obligations, which he doesn’t want and doesn’t dare to cancel. You say it wasn’t the first time he cancelled due to his family, so clearly, they are his priority, even in unimportant things, which he definitely wouldn’t need to tend to.
In this situation, I could see how it wasn’t his fault since it was his family. But I feel they are so demanding of his time. This has bothered me early into dating. And he doesn’t have a backbone so he doesn’t say no to them. I don’t see this changing either.
Actually, I think it’s his fault because he most probably knew about it, but thought he’d be able to skip it, but then as soon as his sister texted him, he agreed to go and cancelled your date. Which means, as you say, he isn’t able to say No to them, and if he isn’t willing to change, he’ll always prioritize them before you.
If you were to get married, it would be a nightmare to have a husband who’s so much controlled by his parents and his family, while his wife almost doesn’t have a say. She’s just there for sex and raising the children, and is given hardly any respect and appreciation, and isn’t considered in important decisions. This I see as a real threat if you’d marry this guy, unfortunately.
TeeParticipantDear Ben,
good to read from you again, glad you started your own thread!
I think it’s helping because I’m so uncertain about the validity of my own feelings. Simply being told “Yes, you are suffering, this is valid and real” gives me something to hold on to. It means that there’s something I can try to fix.
Isn’t it ironic that I worry about my feelings being “all in my head”? Of course they’re in my head- that’s where feelings happen.
Did you have people in your life tell you “it’s all in your head” and try to invalidate your feelings, i.e. your pain?
If you’d like to share some more about your childhood and your relationship with your parents, please do. It might help understand the unhealthy dynamic and how you were hurt…
I understand your need to drink – alcohol soothes the pain… And your pain stems from childhood, that’s almost sure. So if you’d understand how exactly you were hurt and how your needs weren’t met, it might help you deal with your pain in a different, healthier way.
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TeeParticipantDear Felix,
So do u think i should just let go of the past mistakes (such as showing off to prove that i’m rich, posting something embarrassing on my instagram stories & posting to prove that im wealthy)…. like should i just let everthing about it go without thinking anything? Like completely let go without analyzing anything. Because i still feel uneasy as i still saw it as an unsettled matter. I tried distracting myself by doing something else, but will end up thinking about it when i stop doing the activity.
I see. You’re not able to let go thinking about it, there’s a thought playing in your mind that keeps you agitated and you can’t focus on anything else. What might be happening is that your obsessive thinking actually has a protective function. It might be protecting you from doing something else, perhaps something productive and constructive, because you believe that should you start doing something productive, it would turn out you’re not good at it, and it would cause you pain.
If this is true for you, then obsessing about past mistakes and past events is a defense mechanism. It keeps your mind busy and doesn’t allow you to try new things, and potentially embarrass yourself. Do you think this might bee true for you?
It happens often with people with lack of self-esteem – they often sabotage themselves from trying anything new, because a part of them is afraid that they will prove to be a failure. So they don’t even try.
If this is behind your overthinking and the inability to let go, you’d need to become aware that one part of you is afraid of failure and sabotages you from trying anything, sabotages you from even wanting to accomplish anything. You’d need to step back from that part, in your mind, and realize that you’re more than just this fearful part. There’s another part of you that wants to advance and develop and thrive, and you want to embrace that part more. If you feel this is applicable to you, we can talk more.
TeeParticipantDear Ben,
you’re very welcome. I see you feel some shame around suffering from PTSD since you say you haven’t experienced war trauma directly. But in fact, there’s a subset of PTSD, called complex PTSD, which occurs as a result of repeated, “smaller” traumatic events, like having a difficult childhood. Complex PTSD (c-PTSD) is also called developmental trauma, because it happens during our formative years and it affects our adult life significantly.
So don’t feel “less than” or unworthy of calling yourself a trauma survivor. Because that’s what you are – a trauma survivor. A nasty divorce and everything that preceded and followed it can definitely cause trauma for the child caught in the middle…
On top of that came recent losses and tragedies in your life, which spilled your cup of pain and you cannot contain it any more. You cannot bear it, it’s too much for you. I totally understand.
You say “Nothing has helped me so far.” Have you tried therapy, and if so, what type? You said you went to rehab too. How is it now with your drinking? Do you have some support, e.g. are you participating in a support group?
I think it would be best if you’d start a new topic, so that we keep this thread for Sparky64, if she wants to return to it and share some more. To started a new topic, go to Forums-> All Forums-> then pick a Category (e.g. Tough Times), and then New Topic.
I would love to hear more from you.
TeeParticipantDear Javier,
how are you? Are you done with the medical checkup and returned home?
TeeParticipantDear Ben,
I am sorry to hear that you’re struggling so much. Would you like to share some more? What caused your PTSD, since when have you been suffering from it, or anything else you may want to share? Is there something happening in your life at the moment that makes you feel overwhelmed (It’s an infection which has spread into every minute of every day) and not being yourself any more?
June 4, 2021 at 6:54 am in reply to: Stuck in limbo, fear or loneliness, fear of hurting her #380956TeeParticipantDear DaveF,
thank your for your words of appreciation, I am very happy I could help.
I think the most important right now is that you’re aware of what’s going on and that the situation with your girlfriend reminds you of your childhood and is triggering the old wounds. It seems that by simply being aware of it and understanding it, you’re already finding some inner strength and aren’t feeling so lost and helpless.
You did have a challenging childhood, with your father divorcing your mother when you were very little, and you only getting to know him when you were around 2,5-3 years old. Just this fact alone made it difficult for you to bond with him, and on top of that came his character, the fact that he didn’t know how to behave around children (didn’t even want to have one) and was impatient and angry for you simply being a child.
I constantly fought for my fathers approval and didn’t feel I ever had it.
You probably never felt good enough for your father, and this might be at the core of your beliefs “I won’t find someone who loves me like that” or “I won’t be able to manage on my own”. The first belief is that you’re difficult to love (which is how you felt with your father, I believe), and the second is that you’re incapable for success, that you’re not really able to manage things in life. This too might be originating from your father, criticizing you for dropping something, or when you couldn’t understand some difficult concept that he was explaining to you.
So it seems your feeling of insecurity and lack of trust in yourself comes from your father. While the guilt part comes from trying to make your mother happy, but never really succeeding because you couldn’t take away her sadness – because it wasn’t you who caused it in the first place. She was sad and was suffering because she had been betrayed by your father, who left her with a small child and had an affair with another woman. She wasn’t sad because she had you (you say she was very comforting and loving), but because your father betrayed her. Maybe it was also because she wasn’t a strong, self-confident person, so she couldn’t move on but got stuck in the pain and sorrow and pitying herself.
If so, it was impossible to make her happy and take away her pain, but you still tried, and failed, and then blamed yourself for not succeeding. That’s a typical child’s reaction to their parent’s pain – they blame themselves. Now that I think about it, perhaps a part of your lack of trust in yourself stems from this inability to make your mother happy, no matter how hard you tried? This might have contributed to your depression too.
With your best friends rejecting you in time of need, perhaps it triggers the pain of the little boy who felt rejected and not welcome by his father? If so, try to connect to that little boy and tell him that he’s loved and appreciated and that you welcome him with open arms. Try to be a big brother to that little boy, try to be his protector and spokesperson. See how that goes. The more love, appreciation and encouragement you can give to that little boy, the easier it will be for you moving forward.
I know it’s easier said than done, but just try to be aware of that hurt little boy inside of you, and that his needs weren’t met. Don’t blame him but try to have compassion for him, embrace him and represent his interests whenever you can. And let us know how it goes 🙂
June 3, 2021 at 2:26 pm in reply to: I’m addicted to nostalgic feelings and it only makes me feel worse, I guess. #380942TeeParticipantDear miyoid,
happy birthday! Although you’re not feeling too happy at the moment, I know…
I am sorry about your sister – she had a tough time too. You say she’s stronger, maybe in the sense that she left home early and never came back. I guess she became independent from the family earlier? However, you said earlier that she has troubles in her relationships:
She gets overly attached, then she spends the rest of the relationship with the fear of losing, and then she eventually loses the person. … She lives alone, currently single, with lots of failed relationships.
It appears she too fears abandonment, but in spite of that, she gets abandoned often and ends up alone.
Regarding your mother, don’t expect that she’d change. It appears she’s getting more and more obsessed with cats and even willing to sacrifice her marriage for that. You’ve noticed it well – it’s her coping mechanism, to distract herself from pain (and from the need to change).
I’m continuing my life that I’ve been living without the emotional support I need from her and other people as well.
Your mother has never given you emotional support, miyoid. She might talk with you and listen to you, but she usually minimizes your problems. But I understand that you now worry what might happen if you’ll have to take care of her. Till now, you didn’t have to take care of her much – either emotionally or physically, did you? Now there’s a threat that she might need your help.
I believe what you can provide is support in terms of helping her find a place to stay – so concrete, physical actions. But don’t try to provide emotional support, because she’s not really open to it and it would only drain you further. I don’t know if she complains to you or pities herself? But try to separate yourself emotionally from her.
I don’t know what I feel, maybe resentment, maybe just pity for myself. I cannot get angry with anyone, I just feel helpless. I wish my mom had healthier coping mechanisms.
I know you wish she’d change, but unfortunately it’s not in your domain. Only she can decide that, and right now, it appears she isn’t willing to change. So your possibility to help her is limited. I think you definitely cannot help her emotionally, but as I said, maybe you can offer physical, material help, but also respect your boundaries. Don’t take on more than you can bear, e.g. don’t allow her to move in with you with her 8 cats. Have compassion for her, but also protect your boundaries.
I might be feeling resentment towards people that tried to love me but then eventually quit. Such as my mother, ex-boyfriend, and so on.
When you say it like this, it sounds like those people tried to love you, but they quit because of you. As if you were unlovable. You know that’s not true – your mother “quit” because she wasn’t able to meet your emotional needs. You said she abandoned you both physically and emotionally. It wasn’t your fault, but her inability to meet your needs as a child.
I was spending my time alone at the house in the evenings, and she was working. I remember a night, before a huge exam which was about the entrance to high school. A child is supposed to get to bed early those days, cause we have like 6 or 7 big exams in our standard education life. But I remember her not being able to return home for a long period of time and I felt a bit bad. I wasn’t able to sleep cause I waited for her.
You obviously spent a lot of time alone, your mother was working till late in the evening, and you were happy to find someone to chat with online, because she was not really available. When she was available physically, she wasn’t available emotionally. She wasn’t there for you. Then your mother met her second husband. And probably she was even less available? Maybe at that time her second husband became her priority, like now her cats are? You were never her priority.
I know it’s painful, miyoid. But if you believe it’s your fault, you’ll sink into helplessness and self-pity, like you tend to do now. None of it was your fault! You deserved to be cared for, and your mother neglected you. Try to say this to yourself out loud: “I deserved it! And I didn’t get it!” See if you can feel the power of speaking those words. See if it fills you with anger. Because it should. Instead of sinking into helplessness and blaming yourself, allow some anger into your system, which will give you the power to stand up for yourself.
Let me know what you think about it, and how it felt if you tried speaking it out loud (to yourself, privately, not in front of your mother or anyone else).
TeeParticipantDear Felix,
Now that they might have concluded that im busy working that project when i wasnt, how should i deal with this….. luckily there’s only 2 people who replied asking me that time….. Should i just let go of that mistake, and get over with that regret for deceiving them?
Yes, simply don’t mention it again, let it go. It was just 2 people, and you’ve learned your lesson, you haven’t posted about it any more. It was a mistake, but no big deal, life goes on. I am glad you feel calmer and with less pressure to post things that will make you feel better about yourself.
I’m so stressed that i keep thinking that i could waste my time as i feel im already old (im 22)… but this situation force me this way
I had to chuckle at this. If you were 32, it would still be young, but 22 is very young. You have plenty of time to find a girl who’ll become your wife.
My advice is to spend the following months (specially since you still can’t go out too much and meet new people) working on yourself in some way, developing some skill, or exercising, or anything that will give you a sense of accomplishment. Try to choose something that you like and enjoy. It will distract you from thinking about finding a girl, and will do wonders for your self-esteem, I guarantee you.
Is there a skill you’d like to develop? Or some hobby that you enjoy? Because you said you spend your days mostly in your room (when you’re not at work), and I think it would do you good to change that and get more active.
TeeParticipantDear Jack,
that was a nice touch, and a very romantic gesture, specially nowadays in the era of electronic communication… I can imagine she was so happy and touched about it!
Yeah, and that’s why I don’t think there’s any need to be texting all day and everyday.
Definitely no need to text all the time, however if she’d like to hear from you at least once per day, I think you should humor her. She told you she’s anxious, so perhaps it would upset her if she doesn’t hear from you for an entire day?
TeeParticipantDear lk09,
by any means, don’t tell your parents that you see postponing marriage as one of the bonuses… They should think you’re motivated only by advancing professionally, in your career 😉
I am very happy to hear you’re feeling happy and taking care of yourself. I am fine, thanks, feeling good as well, happy that the pandemic is lessening and that summer is coming 🙂
Take care, and looking forward to reading from your more! <3
June 3, 2021 at 2:45 am in reply to: Stuck in limbo, fear or loneliness, fear of hurting her #380910TeeParticipantDear DaveF,
you’re very welcome. I am happy to hear that you’ve managed to talk more calmly with your girlfriend and are considering the option to live apart for a while. Also, that you have stronger and stronger feelings that you want to trust yourself and believe you can do it, even if it’s going to be hard. That’s a great attitude, and it shows you do have a certain strength and don’t believe you’re completely helpless and stuck.
I feel so sorry for my partner and my feelings make it hard to hold back the tears most days.
It seems there’s a part of you that feels guilty for asserting yourself and having your needs met, and it could be coming from the little boy who didn’t want to burden his mother with his needs, when she was struggling alone, being a single mother?
I am so scared that if I do take action, I would feel so lonely and regretful,
This sounds like another part of you, who’s afraid of being abandoned. And it could be because one parent (your father) had already abandoned you, so there’s a threat of that always looming…
You are right that I believe those things that she said to me, that I “won’t find someone who loves me like that” or that “I won’t be able to manage on my own”. But I have stronger and stronger feelings that I want to trust myself, and understand that it will be hard but I need to do this for me, and believe in myself.
It’s great that you’re aware of those voices within you, but also, that your confidence is growing and that you feel a strong need to stand up for yourself, to assert yourself.
Regarding your friends, I understand you’re hurt by their rejection. I don’t know whether there are objective reasons why they can’t take you in (e.g. if they have a family, or a partner who’d feel uncomfortable with another man living in the same apartment for 6 weeks), or it’s rather them not wanting to be disturbed for selfish reasons. You may want to re-evaluate your friendship with them, if you feel they’re really selfish and could have helped you if they wanted to…
What’s good in the whole story is that you’ll be soon moving to your own flat, which is fantastic, and only need to find a temporary accommodation. Do you have an idea how to bring that about?
Please free to express whatever it’s on your mind and heart, you’re not “ranting” at all, you’re expressing yourself very coherently and with a lot of self-awareness. I am happy to read from you.
TeeParticipantDear Murtaza,
and I am glad that you actually agree with my notion that you came up with the entire philosophy and belief system
(false cause) i don’t agree, its a possibility, not a fact
If it’s a possibility, how do you relate to it? Does it help you expand your perspective a bit, or you want to dismiss it? In fact, I am sure that one part of you wants to dismiss it (it’s your protector), but is there another part of you who considers it helpful?
TeeParticipantDear lk09,
I’d like to congratulate you on your paper having been accepted at a reputable journal and soon to be published! It’s also very good to hear that you’re looking for PhD programs either abroad or in India. I wish you to find a really good option, one that you like and that motivates you.
If you go to study abroad, would it give you respite from your parents’ plans to find you a husband? Because it could be an additional benefit 🙂
I hope your job situation improves soon – either in your current company, or somewhere else, where you’ll have a better opportunity for growth. Perhaps it can help you to think the situation (being underpaid and overworked) is temporary, and it will be resolved in the next few months…
I want to have a happy life now on, life will always have challenges but I don’t want to be stressed about everything all the time. Some dept. should be peaceful, shouldn’t it?
Right, you were stressed a lot in your previous relationship, you were trying to save him, and it never works. If one side is trying too much and the other is unwilling, it doesn’t end well. I hope that next time it will be much more balanced, and the other party be equally willing and invested in the relationship, without carrying too much “baggage”.
It appears you’re feeling good about yourself at the moment, appreciating yourself and not blaming yourself for why it didn’t work out. Am I noticing this right? If so, you’re in a good place, and I am happy for you!
TeeParticipantDear Murtaza,
But I understand you don’t want to change your thinking. That’s your free will
though why ? why did i chose not to want to change? you are missing something here, the reason behind our action
“it’s not my lack of will to change – it’s how I am created”
ok, why do i say that? why im more prone to do such thing instead of “healing” ?
I’ve explained it in my previous post – because healing requires facing the old wounds, and that might be painful. It also requires admitting that you have needs, which is also painful. And lastly, even if you heal, it’s not a guarantee that you won’t be hurt and rejected again, which might cause you new pain. All those are reasons to stay in the status quo – basically to avoid pain. You think it’s easier.
but where does this action come from? where does the desire to change our thinking come from? is it really free? how so?
There’s a famous quote by Anais Nin: “And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.”
This is usually when the decision to change happens: when the pain of staying in the status quo, stagnating, fearing, suffering, not living from our true self… becomes larger than the pain we might experience when we choose to come out from our protective shell and give ourselves a chance.
You have been living in your protective shell for quite a long time, and I am glad that you actually agree with my notion that you came up with the entire philosophy and belief system, so you could stay protected from pain:
It’s a belief system, a mental construct, which serves a purpose. And I believe the purpose is to protect you from pain which you don’t want to experience again.
sounds smart move if you ask me.
guilt is so strong that made me make a new value system and philosophy
Yes, it’s a smart move, it keeps you from one kind of pain, but it still makes you miserable. It’s like a patient refusing surgery because he’s afraid of the treatment and prefers to live with a broken limb. Or decides it’s best to end his life, because broken limb causes too much pain. Is it really smart?
Healing is possible, but you’d need to be willing to dismantle the protector, and it seems like you’re not willing to do that, at least not at the moment.
in iraq? forget it
And elsewhere?
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