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  • #459850
    Alessa
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    Hi Girija

    The health concerns make sense after seeing your mother struggle with her health. 🩵

    I don’t know your history, but you mentioned that your family was dysfunctional and experienced some bullying at school? When people experience difficulties like this as children they often develop a baseline level of anxiety. It takes a lot of intentional work to reduce the level of anxiety.

    Fear is a high arousal state so the easiest way to shift it is to go to excitement because it is on the same part of the nervous system. Doing something physical and fun, like dancing to music. Or whatever it is you like. From there it is easier to calm down with gentle self-care and breathwork.

    Worrying, you have to prove to yourself it is not worth your time and energy. Over and over again. Until it sinks in. You can plan without anxiety. And then you put it down because there is only what you can control. It all takes a lot of time and practice. 🩵

    As for a sign from God, I feel like the complexity of life is the sign. What are the chances of all of this? Even having a phone or computer is a miracle.

    Food used to be local and cyclic. You’d have milk in summer. Now we can have it all of the time and from different countries too. Vaccines, antibiotics and medical care prevent so many deaths. A child being born is a miracle. And if you go outside you see so many beautiful things. 🩵

    #459851
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Alessa

    I do want to be free of anxiety. It affects not just what I’m feeling. But how I approach life.
    I do wish my childhood was different. Because not knowing what to do for what happened in the past is difficult. It affects me in so many ways.

    Yes, I suppose proof of God is in creation. For me it’s more of show me that you’ll take care of me.

    Girij

    #459858
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Girija:

    One thing I want to say right away is how much I respect your emotional honesty. You look directly at what scares you, you name it clearly, and you don’t turn away from the parts of yourself that feel fragile. That willingness to look inside — even when it hurts — is not a small thing. It’s the foundation of healing. Nothing changes until a person can face their inner world the way you are doing now.

    I relate to that very much. My own healing began in the same way: by being honest with myself about what I felt, by noticing the fear instead of hiding it, and by admitting how deeply my childhood shaped me. That emotional honesty was the prerequisite for any safety I’ve built inside.

    And I want to be clear with you: my healing is not “complete.” I still carry anxiety in my body. Some of it is somatic — tics, Tourette’s — old fear that settled into my nervous system long before I had any control over my life. That part didn’t magically disappear. But I am safer within myself now, and I feel so much better than I used to.

    The biggest shift came from peeling off self‑blame and replacing it with empathy for myself. I stopped treating my fear as a flaw and started seeing it as a child’s response to an unsafe world.

    I also stopped seeing myself as “abnormal,” or as some kind of freak of nature — which reminds me of the title of your 2022 thread, “I want to be normal.” I began to understand that I was a normal child who had no choice but to adapt to abnormal circumstances. That change in perspective softened something deep inside me.

    Another thing that helped — and I still repeat it every single day — is the serenity prayer we talked about in your other thread: God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

    Whenever I feel anxious about a real‑life situation, I ask myself: Is this something I can change? If the answer is no, I let it go. And if the worry comes back, I repeat the question again.

    None of this erased the past, but it made the present livable. And it’s something you can build too — slowly, gently, and with the same honesty you’re already showing.

    🌿 Anita

    #459859
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Girija:

    As I was thinking about your last message, something came to mind that I thought you might find interesting. It’s not directed at you, and it’s not meant as advice — it’s simply something I’ve found meaningful in my own healing, and I wanted to share it with you in case it resonates.

    “Insight and change feel related, but they live in completely different parts of a person.

    * Insight is instant — it comes in a flash. It happens in the mind. It’s cognitive. It’s fast. It’s the moment someone suddenly sees a pattern, ex, “My childhood shaped this.” It feels powerful because it’s clear, sharp, and often emotionally charged.

    But insight doesn’t require any discomfort beyond the moment of recognition. It doesn’t ask you to do anything differently. It’s just seeing. That’s why people can have insight after insight without their lives changing. Insight is a lightbulb. It turns on, and then it’s gone.

    * Change is repetitive — it requires doing something new over and over. It happens in the body, not the mind.
    It’s slow. It’s uncomfortable. It’s repetitive. Change means noticing the old pattern, interrupting it, tolerating the discomfort of doing something new, repeating that new behavior until it becomes familiar. This is why change is hard: the nervous system hates unfamiliar things, even if they’re healthy.

    Change requires staying present when fear rises, calming the body instead of escaping into thought, (etc.), and doing this again tomorrow, and again the next day. It’s not a flash of clarity. It’s work — steady, uncomfortable, embodied work.

    Insight is “I see the door.” Change is “I walk through it every day until it feels natural.”

    Insight is noticing the pattern. Change is behaving differently when the pattern appears. One is instant. The other is practice.” (Copilot)

    Anita

    #459871
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Thanks for saying that about emotional honesty. I think life also feels really bad for me. One part is the internal anxiety but the other is also all the hard stuff that keeps happening. How can everything hurt at once. My mom has her next PET CT this weekend. I really don’t want to deal with bad news. I can’t anymore. Life is just constantly punching me in the face. How is it that I carry so much fear already and life simply can’t give me a break. How does a coworker manage to take me so off track. And I know I have accountability there as well. But nonetheless, how does it go down so bad that it affects work and health. Where I’m terrified of my future and hopeless. How does everyone who hurt me through that have something working out for them pushing them forward. While I don’t even think I can look forward to my future. Even the idea of taking charge and being ok is so far away and exhausting.

    Congrats on your healing. It shows in your a ability to write to others on this forum. The serenity prayer – I remember that.

    I just don’t like how life feels anymore.

    I don’t know how to like life anymore. Optimism is the only thing left. But why does it even have to turn out this way. I’m not able to find energy anymore.

    I agree with insight vs change. Change take self assuredness I believe. So much of my life I’ve offloaded authority and looked to others to check if I’m safe. That makes change hard. I know I’m not abnormal but at the same time he is being rude. But I’ve spent so much time holding g on to him that I trust him over me. That was it. So much pain. Over so many years. Could’ve been avoided if the insight that I did better outweighed the yearning to hold on to someone who was my escape. That’s what is making change hard. Coz when I let go of something toxic there is only bad news waiting for me. Real life. I wish life goes well for me. Everything in life has to meet you half way. I always go the full distance myself. Can life come to me once. With goodness. With a decade of solace and joy to make up for the decade of problems responsibilities and pain.

    Girija

    #459872
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Girija:

    I hear how heavy everything feels for you right now. When fear is already living in the body, even one more stressor can feel unbearable — and you’re dealing with several at once. Your mom’s PET‑CT, the coworker situation, the years of carrying anxiety, the feeling that life keeps hitting you without giving you a moment to breathe.. none of this is small. Anyone in your position would feel overwhelmed. Nothing about your reaction is unreasonable.

    You’re not just dealing with internal fear — you’re dealing with real‑life uncertainty that would shake anyone. When you say, “everything hurts at once,” that’s exactly what it is: too many things landing on the same spot inside you. And when the body is already tired, even one more blow feels like ten.

    Your exhaustion makes sense. Your hopelessness makes sense. The feeling that life hasn’t met you halfway makes sense. You’ve been carrying so much for so long, and you’ve had to do most of it alone. That wears down anyone’s energy, even the strongest person.

    About the coworker — yes, he was rude, and yes, you trusted him over yourself for a long time. That doesn’t make you abnormal. It makes you human. When someone becomes an emotional escape, letting go of them feels like stepping into cold water. It’s not the “real life” that hurts — it’s the sudden loss of the thing that felt safe, even if it wasn’t good for you.

    And your fear about your mom.. that’s the kind of fear that sits deep in the chest. Waiting for medical results is one of the hardest things a person can do. You don’t have to be brave about it. You just have to get through it moment by moment.

    You said you don’t know how to like life anymore. I understand that. When life has been hard for a long time, optimism feels like the only thin thread left. But even if you can’t feel hope right now, I can hold some of it with you. You don’t have to carry all of it alone.

    You deserve a stretch of life that is gentle. You deserve a decade of ease after a decade of strain. And even if you can’t feel it today, your capacity to keep going — even while exhausted — is strength, even if it doesn’t feel like strength from the inside.

    I’m here with you in this. You don’t have to pretend you’re okay. You just have to keep breathing through this moment.

    🌿 Anita

    #459875
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    The other girl that he used to talk to. Both her and her husband are quitting today. It makes me laugh. Why put an entire team through the meanness and politics only for the person to leave that promotion behind and go. So much turmoil happened seeing the other coworker and her together with insinuations that her work was made easy because of their dynamic. But at the same time I’m inspired. She married within months of him distancing himself. She and her husband barely worked and travelled. Now they’re quitting, I don’t know why. But I’m inspired by clarity. This generation no longer holds on to what isn’t working and also isn’t worried about ethics. You take what you want. No self reflection. While that can turn selfish. I found it inspiring. Part of me leaving my current team is similar. I was no longer willing to have work extracted from me without respect and recognition.

    Life throws some stuff we must face rest is up to us. The pain with him is something I’m able to easily switch off. Because he is out. I can’t keep him in my life anymore. But it is also a great opportunity for me to go broader and explore. Figure out what is in my best interest. What do I want to make of my life. Maybe the pain is a gift in helping me seek out something I wouldn’t have done otherwise.

    Thank you for sticking with me through this.
    I told my mom we will move the appointment to the end of aug. A few weeks don’t matter for a routine follow up. And I won’t find such a gap so easily to have to myself. A break to be by myself and let things settle inside. The pet ct would sit front and centre.

    Girija

    #459878
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Dear Girija 🙂

    I can see a real shift in you, and I want to reflect it back because it matters. You’re starting to make decisions from your own center, not from fear and not from what others are doing. That’s agency. That’s self‑authority. It’s you choosing your own direction instead of letting other people’s behavior pull you off track. And it’s something you’ve been working toward for a long time.

    The situation with your coworker and the other girl makes sense the way you explained it. There were so much noise, politics, and confusion. And now they’re simply leaving. It shows how unstable that whole dynamic really was. Nothing solid was built there. You’re right — clarity can be inspiring. Seeing people walk away from what doesn’t work can remind you that you’re allowed to do the same.

    And I’m glad you’re inspired by people who don’t cling to what isn’t working. You’re not copying them — you’re finding your own version of decisiveness. You’re choosing not to stay in a place where your work is taken for granted. That’s you protecting your energy. That’s you taking yourself seriously.

    What you wrote about him also shows agency. You’re choosing distance. You’re choosing to explore what’s best for you. That’s a strong, healthy direction.

    And postponing your mom’s PET‑CT — that’s you taking care of yourself. You recognized that you need a quiet stretch of time to settle inside before facing something heavy. That’s wisdom. You’re giving yourself space to breathe.

    I would like to encourage you to keep practicing this kind of self‑decisiveness. You don’t have to wait for life to meet you halfway. You can meet yourself halfway. You can choose what supports you, what respects you, and what gives you room to grow.

    You’re not just reacting anymore — you’re acting. You’re making choices. You’re protecting your own wellbeing. I’m here with you as you keep building this 🙂

    🌿 Anita

    #459897
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    I think I hard to break to the point of no longer having energy to do anything but make decisions for myself. When exhausted you can only think about yourself. Deep exhaustion. My current manager suggested that the next 2 weeks could be a great opportunity to travel as we don’t really get holidays like that anymore. But it sounded exhausting. I really don’t need anymore stimulation. I need to slow down to the point that my mind and body are willing to work again. They don’t want to right now. I could see that. I didn’t really want to work
    Haven’t in some time. It’s a kind of disgust. Because I can feel the extraction. Where we are dehumanised,forced to comply. That shouldn’t be work. Work can be respectful and still ambitious. It’s amazing what putting myself first did. Years of loyalty and almost servitude. And suddenly it was too much. And the self respect trumped self doubt.

    I can see that the same applies to fear
    I’m exhausted of fear to the point that it doesn’t run my life as much as it did. It’s almost as if to say. Enough. Let it come. I can’t overthink anymore. I’ve snapped completely
    . All my latest decisions are pretty much, i don’t care anymore. If it falls apart let it. I won’t save anything that needs me

    Girija

    #459900
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Girija: I’ll reply in a couple of hours or so 🙂

    #459906
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Dear Girija 🌿

    What you’re describing feels like the kind of exhaustion that doesn’t just make you tired — it forces you into honesty. When the body and mind hit that level of depletion, you stop performing, you stop overthinking, you stop carrying things that were never yours. You can only choose yourself because there’s no energy left for anything else. And that’s not weakness — that’s a boundary your system is finally enforcing.

    It makes sense that travel feels exhausting and work feels dehumanizing. You’ve been giving for years, staying loyal, pushing through fear, and trying to meet impossible expectations. At some point the self‑respect becomes louder than the self‑doubt, and something inside says: enough.

    You’re not rejecting work or life — you’re rejecting extraction. You’re rejecting anything that treats you like a resource instead of a human being.

    And I can hear the shift in how you talk about fear too. You’re not fighting it anymore. You’re too tired to feed it, and that’s why it’s losing power. This “I don’t care anymore” isn’t apathy — it’s clarity. It’s the moment when you stop saving things that only survive because you keep pouring yourself into them.

    This is a raw kind of agency, but it’s still agency. It’s you choosing yourself because your system refuses to let you abandon yourself any further. Let things fall apart if they need to. You’re finally letting life show you what doesn’t deserve your energy.

    I’m here with you in this shift 🙂

    Anita

    #459913
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    In a way life is very calm this way. Simply present. Not thinking about the future. I saw a reel of the actor Eric Dane in Grey’s anatomy. He passed away young due to ALS. In the documentary he talks about living in the present. And there is so much to that simple statement. If the past is causing me pain, why even hold on to it. If the future causes worry, the same. If I’m miserable in the present what is there to worry about in the future. It is the same misery.

    I don’t even need highs anymore. Just being left alone. That’s it. Goals suck. Feel like a treadmill, with the promise of feeling great once we’re done. I think I’m beginning to resent effort and achievement.

    Girija

    #459914
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Girija:

    WOW is what went through my mind as I read your message of only an hour and a half ago ✔️✔️✔️

    You expressed a lot of clarity in a very short message.

    I want to repeat this as a daily mantra for myself.

    Thank you, Girija 🙏

    I would love to read how you practice this in your everyday little moments.

    ✨️✨️✨️ Anita

    #459933
    samy
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Your reaction is a pleasant surprise. I didn’t think it would help you as well

    I had this weird thought. We can’t really differentiate between two ants of the same “breed”. They will look alike and fundamentally are the same. But different units of the same thing. Us humans are the same. We just happen to be born at different points in time and with different terrains in front of us. I wonder if my root cause is not so much other people especially ones I’ve met in adulthood and the pain but my unfortunate ability to assess my life. It will never feel enough. I don’t have an instinct towards anything. Sometimes life gives people who will push – maybe towards marriage etc. I think we all have specific circumstances that are for us. Which we can navigate with our choices. I’ve removed myself from living. For the longest time performing well at work was it. Out of survival. But it did feel alive. Although angsty and stressful. Now I’m looking at my life from above and it is impossible to pick a direction with conviction. I don’t think he would’ve been such a heartbreak if I was truly living my life. Instead life was stuck and he came along and gave it colour and I no longer had to be aware. Blissfully lost in the ups and downs

    I was watching the movie Yes Man. Thought I should say yes to anything and everything with caution of course. But it immediately lost steam. Nothing innately pushes me.

    Girija

    #459941
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Girija:

    For some reason I am very tired and it’s only 12:12 pm (by the time I submit this)

    I’ll answer further later, but for now, what crossed my mind as I read your post, is how intelligent you are, and how emotionally honest. It’s a kind of beauty that makes this one “ant” ( you 🙂) rise way above the ant-ness she was born into.

    ✨️✨️✨️ Anita

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